NFT: Yanks talk -25

In comment 14403953 Greg from LI said:

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Torres has looked much smoother and more comfortable at SS this year than he did at second base last year. Might it not be a better idea to keep him there and move Didi to second when he comes back?

I'm going to miss RAB sooooooo much

How Wades speed can change a game last night is why him not able to hit is stopping him from being an impact player. For those that didn't see the game ,he gets a hit in the 9th and steals 2nd and scores on LeMahieu single. Unfortunately I think as other do he is a AAAA player.

said the other day on the broadcast that the Yankees will do and spend whatever is needed to decrease the injuries. I have ben saying that all along. We no how much money they spend on scouts/analytics etc. I don't think they are going to skimp on training staff and conditioning.

In comment 14403976 mitch300 said:

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How Wades speed can change a game last night is why him not able to hit is stopping him from being an impact player. For those that didn't see the game ,he gets a hit in the 9th and steals 2nd and scores on LeMahieu single. Unfortunately I think as other do he is a AAAA player.

He was really hesitant in LF, too. Both of those Pujols bloops probably could have been caught if he had a good first step/angle. Especially the first one. He just stood there and let it drop 5 feet in front of him.

His versatility and speed are valuable... I just wish the guy could hit.

im a proud Gary defender and i think his play this year will silence all of this talk. Strange to see some take such a strong stance on him after his first game back from a IL stint. the guy is an absolute stud and his apparent "defensive liability" gets completely over blown. he will be out backstop for years to come.

I started reading RAB during the 2009 season, and it's been a daily read for me ever since. I don't know what I'll do without it, frankly.

In comment 14403874 Greg from LI said:

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Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka?

There has been plenty of data that shows that Sanchez is one of the better catchers in baseball defensively. Literally the only negative to that part of his game is the occasional passed ball. Last year, David Cone was doing one of the telecasts laughing at people that continue to shit on Sanchez� defense. He said that Sanchez checks out as well above average in every defensive metric but passed balls, and even elite in things like pitch framing.

Yet, fans watching from their couch continue to act like they know what the hell their talking about and kill Sanchez daily. Yankees fans always need a punching bag. Sanchez and Boone are somehow the lucky winners the past couple of years...

In comment 14404000 Greg from LI said:

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I started reading RAB during the 2009 season, and it's been a daily read for me ever since. I don't know what I'll do without it, frankly.

I'd heard of it for a while but unfortunately didn't start daily reading until the 2016 sell-off. I guess I'll reach the archives once it goes. There's no other blog like it

In comment 14404039 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 14403874 Greg from LI said: Quote: Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka? There has been plenty of data that shows that Sanchez is one of the better catchers in baseball defensively. Literally the only negative to that part of his game is the occasional passed ball. Last year, David Cone was doing one of the telecasts laughing at people that continue to shit on Sanchez� defense. He said that Sanchez checks out as well above average in every defensive metric but passed balls, and even elite in things like pitch framing. Yet, fans watching from their couch continue to act like they know what the hell their talking about and kill Sanchez daily. Yankees fans always need a punching bag. Sanchez and Boone are somehow the lucky winners the past couple of years...

Too lazy to post defensive stats, but let's just look at our cross-town rival, the New York Mets.

Their catcher, Travis d'Arnaud, has made 19 Errors in his career out of 3,216 Total Chances. Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances.

Here's the AL East (Career Totals):

Baltimore Jes�s Sucre 7 Errors in 1,772 Total Chances
Tampa Bay's Mike Zunino 22 Errors in 4,809 Total Chances
Boston's Christian V�zquez 18 Errors in 2,515 Total Chances
Toronto's Danny Jansen 3 Errors in 332 Total Chances
Toronto's Luke Maile 14 Errors in 1,381 Total Chances

THAT'S JUST THE AL EAST.

I'll repeat what I said earlier. Out of all the very fine young players that wear Pinstripes, it is my opinion that Gary Sanchez could well be the player that is not offered a long-term contract from Cashman.

have just said "too lazy" and left it at that.

Again - how many losses does that translate to? And how many wins does he contribute to?

In comment 14404239 M.S. said:

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In comment 14404039 BigBlueShock said: Quote: In comment 14403874 Greg from LI said: Quote: Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka? There has been plenty of data that shows that Sanchez is one of the better catchers in baseball defensively. Literally the only negative to that part of his game is the occasional passed ball. Last year, David Cone was doing one of the telecasts laughing at people that continue to shit on Sanchez� defense. He said that Sanchez checks out as well above average in every defensive metric but passed balls, and even elite in things like pitch framing. Yet, fans watching from their couch continue to act like they know what the hell their talking about and kill Sanchez daily. Yankees fans always need a punching bag. Sanchez and Boone are somehow the lucky winners the past couple of years... Too lazy to post defensive stats, but let's just look at our cross-town rival, the New York Mets. Their catcher, Travis d'Arnaud, has made 19 Errors in his career out of 3,216 Total Chances. Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances. Here's the AL East (Career Totals): Baltimore Jes�s Sucre 7 Errors in 1,772 Total Chances Tampa Bay's Mike Zunino 22 Errors in 4,809 Total Chances Boston's Christian V�zquez 18 Errors in 2,515 Total Chances Toronto's Danny Jansen 3 Errors in 332 Total Chances Toronto's Luke Maile 14 Errors in 1,381 Total Chances THAT'S JUST THE AL EAST. I'll repeat what I said earlier. Out of all the very fine young players that wear Pinstripes, it is my opinion that Gary Sanchez could well be the player that is not offered a long-term contract from Cashman.

So in a world where errors are the only measure of defensive ability and all catchers are of equal ability at the plate, your post holds water.

Yanks have acquired OF Cameron Maybin from Cleveland.

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Jack Curry ‏ Verified account @JackCurryYES Follow Follow @JackCurryYES More Yanks have acquired Cameron Maybin, who was at AAA with the Cleveland Indians. That gives them some OF depth as he can play all three positions. #yankees

Yankees fans who are so anti-Gary at this stage. It's very strange to me.

In comment 14403874 Greg from LI said:

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Sanchez calls a better game, frames better, and throws infinitely better. Did you notice how teams were running wild on Romine and Higashioka?

You can be a jackass. They were running on the pitchers. Coney clearly said that. Also, Cone said Romine is the better catcher. Romine sucked two games in a row, true. But comes down to whether people trust your opinion or Cone's. I think I would take Cone's.

In comment 14404460 Mike from SI said:

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Yankees fans who are so anti-Gary at this stage. It's very strange to me.

Definitely not anti-Gary.

When this guy is hot, no ballpark can hold him back.

But he is streaky... and he is a significant defensive liability behind the plate.

In comment 14404252 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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have just said "too lazy" and left it at that. Again - how many losses does that translate to? And how many wins does he contribute to?

Ahhh� got it. Just let me know what source contains such information and will be glad to dig out the answer for you.

Which team in the major leagues averages the highest late movement on their pitches?

Which major league team averages the highest velocity on their pitches?

Which major league team averages the most number of curving pitch types? (Sliders, Sinkers, Curveballs and Cutters)

Does late sudden movement on fast pitches correlate to making them hard to catch cleanly?

Thanks for making analytically sound observations

but whether there is blame to be assigned or not, heads gotta roll and more money needs to be spent on better science to keep these guys from missing games. There is too much money on the field to have them watching a triple-A team out there.

In comment 14404746 Bill2 said:

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Which team in the major leagues averages the highest late movement on their pitches? Which major league team averages the highest velocity on their pitches? Which major league team averages the most number of curving pitch types? (Sliders, Sinkers, Curveballs and Cutters) Does late sudden movement on fast pitches correlate to making them hard to catch cleanly? Thanks for making analytically sound observations

Since when were catchers' defensive stats adjusted by all the criteria you've listed? And what source do you know about for such Sabermetrics?

In the meantime, let's keep all of your criteria constant as best we can by simply comparing Sanchez with another Yankee who has to deal with the same staff:

Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances (.988 Fielding Pct.)

Austin Romine: 10 Errors in 2,150 chances (0.995 Fielding Pct.)

In comment 14405312 M.S. said:

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Since when were catchers' defensive stats adjusted by all the criteria you've listed? And what source do you know about for such Sabermetrics? In the meantime, let's keep all of your criteria constant as best we can by simply comparing Sanchez with another Yankee who has to deal with the same staff: Gary Sanchez: 27 Errors in 2,208 chances (.988 Fielding Pct.) Austin Romine: 10 Errors in 2,150 chances (0.995 Fielding Pct.)

CS%: Romine 21%, Sanchez 35%

rCERA (which is a measure of a catcher's game calling by comparing pitcher performance with that catcher vs other catchers): Sanchez, career total of 7, never been negative (2016 0, 2017 3, 2018 3, 2019 1); Romine, career total of -4.

DRS (Defensive Runs Saved, measures how many runs less/more a player allows than the average at his position): Sanchez 9 for his career, Romine -5 for his career.

rSZ (Strike Zone Runs Saved, a measure of pitch framing): Sanchez 5 for his career, Romine 5.

Huh??

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RE: You could.. M.S. : 1:18 pm : link : reply In comment 14404252 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: have just said "too lazy" and left it at that. Again - how many losses does that translate to? And how many wins does he contribute to? Ahhh� got it. Just let me know what source contains such information and will be glad to dig out the answer for you.

Are you familiar with stats? Sanchez offensive WAR is 8.1 for and his defensive WAR is 1.7

but he has no business starting for us. That said, to my eye alone, Gary has regressed significantly since 2017 behind the plate.

it appears being the best batter on this team puts you in some kind of cosmic danger.

Stay safe Gleyber.

Since when does the characteristics of the pitching staff affect catchers?

Always

Since when is it reflected in existing stats?

its not

Since when does a stat mean a person should no longer should think past easy and interpret the second and third derivative in making a sound argument?

All stats are the result of weighted, limited and slanted interpretations of a data series.

If we accepted the stats of an era we would still be using BA as the be all and end all metric determining the value of position players

In comment 14405809 Bill2 said:

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Since when does the characteristics of the pitching staff affect catchers? Always Since when is it reflected in existing stats? its not Since when does a stat mean a person should no longer should think past easy and interpret the second and third derivative in making a sound argument? All stats are the result of weighted, limited and slanted interpretations of a data series. If we accepted the stats of an era we would still be using BA as the be all and end all metric determining the value of position players

Put another way, focusing exclusively on errors is misguided.