We still have rooting interests that affect our draft.
Next Round: Root for Carolina, Columbus and Colorado all to WIN. Our Winnipeg pick can go as 'high' as 18! (Now up from 22 to 21 because of Carolina's win last night).
Conference Finals: Root for Columbus to LOSE so as our 4th and 7th round picks from McQuaid trade don't drop.
and obviously because of me.........
Let's play nice and keep it positive, not schadenfreude.
Send out good juju that gave us the second pick.
That one is burnt in on my forehead -- so obvious I forgot.
Lots of interests in the next round!
If the price of all this is COL going all the way, that's fine with me. Also, would that make Davidson moving to us more likely?
Anyway the closer to 1 the better for a draft pick obvio. But not s huge diff between 18 and 22
Anyway the closer to 1 the better for a draft pick obvio. But not s huge diff between 18 and 22
I think that CAR beating WSH moved us up one, but please correct if I am wrong.
Hmm, not sure about your last point. The Rangers gave up a Round 2 pick to move up from 26 to 22 to nab K'Andre Miller.
But honestly - is there something one could possible care less about? (21 vs 22 going into last night)
(I know... fat chance... but still more realistic than some of the Josh Rosen for a 3rd rounder fantasies going on here!)
“The comparables for me for the NHL, I think worst-case scenario – and this is no slam – is Jay Bouwmeester,” Granato said of the 16-year NHL veteran. “Bouwmeester’s been a really good player for a long time. Bouwmeester skates and recovers and I think Kee’s got some more to his game than Jay might (have). Jay’s really really good and he’s had a great career. I think (Miller) is going to be as good or better than Jay. Size, skating ability, recovery ability. The recovery ability and the athleticism on plays that – NHL players are going to make plays – but his ability to not bail out on himself and to be able to recover is different than any other player, young defenseman, that I’ve seen.
“I mean, he’s got a little bit of Rob Blake in him that way, because of his size....
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Granato thinks Miller will be a top-pair for a long time.
“The comparables for me for the NHL, I think worst-case scenario – and this is no slam – is Jay Bouwmeester,” Granato said of the 16-year NHL veteran. “Bouwmeester’s been a really good player for a long time. Bouwmeester skates and recovers and I think Kee’s got some more to his game than Jay might (have). Jay’s really really good and he’s had a great career. I think (Miller) is going to be as good or better than Jay. Size, skating ability, recovery ability. The recovery ability and the athleticism on plays that – NHL players are going to make plays – but his ability to not bail out on himself and to be able to recover is different than any other player, young defenseman, that I’ve seen.
“I mean, he’s got a little bit of Rob Blake in him that way, because of his size....
Miller looks like he's the real deal and may wind up being a top paring all star type of defense-man. Something this team really needs badly. In a few years, both him and Fox (assuming he get him) will be two tremendous pieces in this re-vamped young team.
the way the NHL draft works is the 4 teams who make the conference finals pick in the last 4 spots, the rest of the teams no matter how far you get in the playoffs draft reverse order of regular season standings.
So even if teams like DAL or CAR lose this round they still pick ahead of WIN (NYR)
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Granato thinks Miller will be a top-pair for a long time.
“The comparables for me for the NHL, I think worst-case scenario – and this is no slam – is Jay Bouwmeester,” Granato said of the 16-year NHL veteran. “Bouwmeester’s been a really good player for a long time. Bouwmeester skates and recovers and I think Kee’s got some more to his game than Jay might (have). Jay’s really really good and he’s had a great career. I think (Miller) is going to be as good or better than Jay. Size, skating ability, recovery ability. The recovery ability and the athleticism on plays that – NHL players are going to make plays – but his ability to not bail out on himself and to be able to recover is different than any other player, young defenseman, that I’ve seen.
“I mean, he’s got a little bit of Rob Blake in him that way, because of his size....
Miller has an insane combination of size, speed, and skill. Think Kreider-like potential with that combination, but in a better program to develop under Granato.
I do think he needs to work on his D b/c as a converted forward he clearly excelled when I watched him at getting into the offensive play, but more than once I saw him lose his man defensively - this was in the U20 worlds in December, which will take time. I love the Bouwmeester comp.
Rangers fans should be so lucky, that's a 10+ year rock on the blue line if that's worst case like Granato says.
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Granato thinks Miller will be a top-pair for a long time.
“The comparables for me for the NHL, I think worst-case scenario – and this is no slam – is Jay Bouwmeester,” Granato said of the 16-year NHL veteran. “Bouwmeester’s been a really good player for a long time. Bouwmeester skates and recovers and I think Kee’s got some more to his game than Jay might (have). Jay’s really really good and he’s had a great career. I think (Miller) is going to be as good or better than Jay. Size, skating ability, recovery ability. The recovery ability and the athleticism on plays that – NHL players are going to make plays – but his ability to not bail out on himself and to be able to recover is different than any other player, young defenseman, that I’ve seen.
“I mean, he’s got a little bit of Rob Blake in him that way, because of his size....
Great article by Carp -- and more comps from their D coach. I think Miller is in a great place for development -- and with next year's influx of world talent, hopefully a fun season.
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this from The Athletic this morning (brief squib from an entire article devoted to him, to avoid ruffling Jay (: )
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Granato thinks Miller will be a top-pair for a long time.
“The comparables for me for the NHL, I think worst-case scenario – and this is no slam – is Jay Bouwmeester,” Granato said of the 16-year NHL veteran. “Bouwmeester’s been a really good player for a long time. Bouwmeester skates and recovers and I think Kee’s got some more to his game than Jay might (have). Jay’s really really good and he’s had a great career. I think (Miller) is going to be as good or better than Jay. Size, skating ability, recovery ability. The recovery ability and the athleticism on plays that – NHL players are going to make plays – but his ability to not bail out on himself and to be able to recover is different than any other player, young defenseman, that I’ve seen.
“I mean, he’s got a little bit of Rob Blake in him that way, because of his size....
Miller has an insane combination of size, speed, and skill. Think Kreider-like potential with that combination, but in a better program to develop under Granato.
I do think he needs to work on his D b/c as a converted forward he clearly excelled when I watched him at getting into the offensive play, but more than once I saw him lose his man defensively - this was in the U20 worlds in December, which will take time. I love the Bouwmeester comp.
Rangers fans should be so lucky, that's a 10+ year rock on the blue line if that's worst case like Granato says.
Thanks for the clarification re the position.
My original point re Miller is that four spots in Round 1 is not a trivial matter.
Granato mentioned that Miller's recovery (skating and reach) is exceptional. He will learn a lot under Mark Osiecki. Hate for the Badgers to lose him , but maybe he should replace Ruff.
Your 'Playoff Guide' is a mess lol.
Great article by Carp -- and more comps from their D coach. I think Miller is in a great place for development -- and with next year's influx of world talent, hopefully a fun season.
“I think that would probably be the best decision for me,” Miller told The Athletic.
Well, this is his 17th season so, yeah, he's been around forever.
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I forgot Bouwmeester was in the league until a few weeks ago. Feels like he's been around forever.
Well, this is his 17th season so, yeah, he's been around forever.
Longer than I've been alive.
Look at Chara, I think he should retire (or at least not be a top pair D), but he's still better than probably a third of the D in the league at least and he's 42. He's old enough to be your father.
If I understand this correctly Rangers fans should root for Dallas,Carolina, Colorado, and Columbus in this round. If these teams succeed the Rangers benefit.
Baseball sees the occasional 20 year career, but it's an apples and oranges comparison.
But the NHL has maybe the shortest career duration after the NFL.
More than half of NHL players play less than 100 games.
Only 4% play more than 1,000 games (12 seasons), which makes them somewhere between 30 and 35.
But the NHL has maybe the shortest career duration after the NFL.
More than half of NHL players play less than 100 games.
Only 4% play more than 1,000 games (12 seasons), which makes them somewhere between 30 and 35.
But they probably still play in Europe or elsewhere where in football aside from the CFL there are few options.
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regardless of age - if you're just talking love of the game shit, there is a senior league at the complex where I play that has a 50+ league. There are some guys who play in that league with their fathers. There are 50 year old men, playing with 70+ year old men. They're obviously mostly slow and brittle boned, but it's cool to see them. Their night games are around 5pm, just after dinner.
But the NHL has maybe the shortest career duration after the NFL.
More than half of NHL players play less than 100 games.
Only 4% play more than 1,000 games (12 seasons), which makes them somewhere between 30 and 35.
But they probably still play in Europe or elsewhere where in football aside from the CFL there are few options.
yes, that's my point, hockey players can play to any age. NHL though, like the other major sports, has a limited career duration. with some notable exceptions.
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Great article by Carp -- and more comps from their D coach. I think Miller is in a great place for development -- and with next year's influx of world talent, hopefully a fun season.
Not sure what you meant but iirc Carp believes K'A will stay at UW at least one more year.
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Where Miller wants to go is from Madison, Wisconsin to Madison Square Garden. But he is not in a rush to get there. He won’t say definitively, but Miller won’t turn pro now, instead planning and training for his sophomore season with the Badgers. Granato and the Rangers’ front office all believe he will play one more year of college hockey, at least.
“I think that would probably be the best decision for me,” Miller told The Athletic.
Yes, another year at UW should be perfect for him.