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Dexter Lawrence - not much buzz in the last week.

Andy in Boston : 4/25/2019 3:54 pm
If Allen falls to us at 6, I think Lawrence has gotta be in serious play at #17. He immediately starts at NT (1 technique) and Hill and Tomlinson are the ends. He's an absolute beast and I wanted to get a discussion going on him. Gettleman loves big NT's. This give us Allen as an edge starter and Lawrence as a starter. Helps our defense tremendously. Thoughts?


Absolutely  
PaulN : 4/25/2019 3:56 pm : link
We need 2 defensive linemen and we traded away Snacks last season, it is not hard to see us taking him at all.
and here is Sy's writeup....that's enough for me.  
Andy in Boston : 4/25/2019 3:57 pm : link
2: Dexter Lawrence – Clemson – 6’4/342

Grade: 85

Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasn’t anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.

*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, it’s Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.

NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET
Love it.  
Russ in Queens, NYC : 4/25/2019 3:58 pm : link
Dexter at 17. Love love love it.
Andy  
Earl the goat : 4/25/2019 3:58 pm : link
He’s the second best lineman in draft

I’ve said this on earlier threads. The other 3 Clemson lineman should be kissing his ass for the payday they are about to receive
I freaking love Lawrence  
Lionhart28 : 4/25/2019 3:58 pm : link
He's such a good athlete for his size. Strong and not devoid of pass rush. He can really push the pocket.

I would absolutely take him at 17. Immediately makes the giants decent against the run.
if we land a QB at #17.....I hope Giants seriously consider trading  
Andy in Boston : 4/25/2019 3:58 pm : link
back into the 1st round for Lawrence. Which would mean giving up a pick next, I'm sure.
Not considered a Top Ten guy, so no buzz.  
Klaatu : 4/25/2019 3:58 pm : link
But I'd love him at #17.
RE: if we land a QB at #17.....I hope Giants seriously consider trading  
Andy in Boston : 4/25/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14405366 Andy in Boston said:
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back into the 1st round for Lawrence. Which would mean giving up a pick next, I'm sure.


pick next year....which I'm ok with.
The guy that does film break down for my college team said this  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/25/2019 3:59 pm : link
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Dexter Lawrence- if you need a two gap DT, he is your guy. He is more talented than Williams from Alabama. Weight and performance enhancers hurt his standing.

Same issue I have with all Bama defenders. There is so much talent that offenses can't scheme against one guy. All the DL Bama has produced recently have been quietly solid players. You don't use a top pick on "quietly solid."

I didn't know anything about the foot injury for Lawrence (I tune out to NFL stuff.) I am evading based on what I have watched. Lawrence, before the weight gain, would have been my top pick. He hurt himself with the weight gain, which limited his effectiveness. So his stock fell.


Not sure he moves the needle....  
chilly460 : 4/25/2019 4:00 pm : link
I follow Clemson closely and have watched him quite a bit. He gets a lot of buzz just because of his size and speed. He definitely can control a single blocker and can control gaps, but he hasn't shown anything special as a pass rusher. He can play high at times, negating his size.

I do think he's worth a pick at 17 as he will solidify any defense, but I think the Giants would be better served to get a top RT with that pick.
Really want him too...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/25/2019 4:00 pm : link
rumors he was falling led me to dream about trading down a little and picking up extra day two picks and still getting him, but I'd be quite happy with him at #17.
2 down player  
jayg5 : 4/25/2019 4:00 pm : link
Don’t want him in 1st round
I would take Greedy over him  
Giantz_comeback : 4/25/2019 4:03 pm : link
But he should be in the discussion if we don't get Q.Williams or Wilkins at 6
my sense is lawrence  
hitdog42 : 4/25/2019 4:06 pm : link
is well liked
Give me a Clemson pick at 17!  
Amtoft : 4/25/2019 4:06 pm : link
If we get Josh Allen at 6 then Dexter Lawrence at 17
If we get Ed Oliver at 6 then Ferrel Clelin at 17
RE: my sense is lawrence  
Dan in the Springs : 4/25/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14405398 hitdog42 said:
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is well liked


By the NYG or the league in general?
Rather have Lawrence than Wilkins  
ghost718 : 4/25/2019 4:14 pm : link
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I love this guy  
BIGbluegermany : 4/25/2019 4:15 pm : link
take him @17
RE: Absolutely  
Danny80 : 4/25/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14405353 PaulN said:
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We need 2 defensive linemen and we traded away Snacks last season, it is not hard to see us taking him at all.


I think that would be my ideal set of picks in the first round--unless the Giants could get Devin Bush at 17. I'd take him over Lawrence, I think. But otherwise, yeah Allen and Lawrence would be two totally worthwhile picks for their spots and would help the defense tremendously.
RE: RE: my sense is lawrence  
hitdog42 : 4/25/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14405449 Dan in the Springs said:
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In comment 14405398 hitdog42 said:


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is well liked



By the NYG or the league in general?


Gmen
RE: RE: RE: my sense is lawrence  
Dan in the Springs : 4/25/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14405522 hitdog42 said:
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Gmen


Thanks - would make me very happy.
Wilkins and Dexter both well liked  
JonC : 4/25/2019 4:52 pm : link
Wilkins will be in the mix at #6 if the top targets are gone.
In My Mock  
Jim in Tampa : 4/25/2019 4:52 pm : link
(Not that anyone should care...)

I have the Giants taking Allen at 6 and Lawrence at 17... then trading a 2 and a 5 for Rosen.
Good job  
JonC : 4/25/2019 4:53 pm : link
except for the Rosen deal.
RE: 2 down player  
Klaatu : 4/25/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14405378 jayg5 said:
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Don’t want him in 1st round


For what he can bring on those two downs? I'd take him there in a heartbeat. Ngata went at #12, Wilfork at #21.
Would really like Wilkins and Lawrence...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/25/2019 5:04 pm : link
I'd like to see that duo here together.

Would consider trading Tomlinson if I could get enough of an offer for him in that situation. Love DT, but with the rookies you would make some space and get a return on a guy who is into year 3 of 4 contractually.

If not a good enough offer would be happy to keep him. Got to have the DL be a strength - win in the trenches.
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