If We Trade For Rosen, Will There Be An Open QB Competition?

and thats why we wont trade for Rosen IMO

LOL.

Hahahahahahaha.

It would get 'Warner-Manning' hot in an instant though.

Rosen will not be coming

In comment 14405402 ron mexico said:

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and thats why we wont trade for Rosen IMO

I'm hoping you're right. For that and a couple other reasons.

no

eat the $5M bonus and dump the rest of Eli's salary

Really?

until Rosen is a Giant?

feelings are too important. Please let's put all sound football judgment aside until Eli is ready to go.

In comment 14405540 FranchiseQB said:

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feelings are too important. Please let's put all sound football judgment aside until Eli is ready to go.

Give me a break. He obviously knows the offense better than Rosen and would give us the best chance at success this year. Rosen would be worked in later this season and definitely in 2020.

This Eli’s feelings shit is getting ridiculous.

In comment 14405540 FranchiseQB said:

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feelings are too important. Please let's put all sound football judgment aside until Eli is ready to go.

Nice!

If the Giants trade for Rosen, he sits this year while Eli plays, and watches how a 2 time champion prepares for games, breaks down film, etc and then becomes the starter in 2020.

There is nothing wrong with that. Steve Young was a starter and then ended up backing up Montana afterward for awhile.

In comment 14405418 George from PA said:

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Rosen will not be coming

You may well be right but here's what smart teams do...

In 1987 SF traded for 26 yr. old Steve Young to be the backup for 31 yr. old Joe Montana.

My guess is that Bill Walsh wanted competition at QB and didn't give much thought to how Montana would feel about it.

Giants should do what's best for the team and not make their next QB move with any consideration for what Eli thinks about it.

In comment 14405579 FStubbs said:

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If the Giants trade for Rosen, he sits this year while Eli plays, and watches how a 2 time champion prepares for games, breaks down film, etc and then becomes the starter in 2020. There is nothing wrong with that. Steve Young was a starter and then ended up backing up Montana afterward for awhile.

I gotta type faster next time ;>)

I think that is pretty much a given.

Rosen would have to learn a new offense, while Eli has a year under his belt in Shurmurs scheme, so Eli would win the qb competition, but is it inconceivable that Rosen becomes a better option later in the year, I don't think so.

It will be open to Eli.

He sits for a year and learns from the best QB in Giants history, then takes over in 2020. He’ll be healthy, wealthy and hopefully wise. We are then set for the next 10 years ... and it will be Rosen vs Darnold for the king of NY, just like when they were at UCLA and USC.

and of course Rosen should start. He played last year. And it's THE only way to optimize his contract and find out what Rosen can do with a better team that the 1-AA team he played with last year.

I'm making the assumption we aren't winning anything significant with Eli. So why keep him? To keep seeing the same show?

But herein lies the problem with keeping Eli. Having Eli around just stunts Rosen's growth. And that's the last thing we need.

I would love to get Rosen. But it's going to cause an instant controversy - as it should - and this thing could get very ugly...

In comment 14405614 bw in dc said:

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and of course Rosen should start. He played last year. And it's THE only way to optimize his contract and find out what Rosen can do with a better team that the 1-AA team he played with last year. I'm making the assumption we aren't winning anything significant with Eli. So why keep him? To keep seeing the same show? But herein lies the problem with keeping Eli. Having Eli around just stunts Rosen's growth. And that's the last thing we need. I would love to get Rosen. But it's going to cause an instant controversy - as it should - and this thing could get very ugly...

Stop it NOW! Enough! This isn’t elementary school. Eli can take any controversy thrown his way, if there is any.

years as #10 tries to quiet naysayers

In comment 14405633 Big Blue '56 said:

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Stop it NOW! Enough! This isn’t elementary school. Eli can take any controversy thrown his way, if there is any.

God bless you. You are a sweet, old man. But this would be THE best move for the team. It makes so much sense - football wise and economics wise - that everyone should root for this.

But, alas, it's likely not going to happen...despite being the best trade opportunity I have seen in probably decades.

... And there shouldn't be.
The job has already been awarded To what most likely is by far the most qualified candidate.

That said the coaches would be evaluating Rosen, all seaso, as if there is an open competition.

Eli is the Giants present...maybe Rosen becomes the future.

In comment 14405649 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14405633 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Stop it NOW! Enough! This isn’t elementary school. Eli can take any controversy thrown his way, if there is any. God bless you. You are a sweet, old man. But this would be THE best move for the team. It makes so much sense - football wise and economics wise - that everyone should root for this. But, alas, it's likely not going to happen...despite being the best trade opportunity I have seen in probably decades.

I wouldn’t have a problem with Rosen. The concussions could be a concern and the NY pressure could get to him. That said, bring him on if the Giants really like him.

In comment 14405659 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14405649 bw in dc said: Quote: In comment 14405633 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Stop it NOW! Enough! This isn’t elementary school. Eli can take any controversy thrown his way, if there is any. God bless you. You are a sweet, old man. But this would be THE best move for the team. It makes so much sense - football wise and economics wise - that everyone should root for this. But, alas, it's likely not going to happen...despite being the best trade opportunity I have seen in probably decades. I wouldn’t have a problem with Rosen. The concussions could be a concern and the NY pressure could get to him. That said, bring him on if the Giants really like him.

Rosen had two concussions in 2017, but none in 15, 16 or 18.

I think the NY pressure thing is waaaayyy overblown. Can you remember the last Giants QB who had the talent to succeed, but failed because of this mythical "NY pressure"? I can't and I've been a NYG fan since 65.

The myth applies not only to Rosen, but you also see BBIers posting the same stuff about Big Ben as if he would somehow have failed in NY. It's silly. There's media pressure everywhere these days in the 24/7 twitter-world we live in.

How dare you go against the myths of the BBI Mainstream! ;)

In comment 14405718 Jim in Tampa said:

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In comment 14405659 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 14405649 bw in dc said: Quote: In comment 14405633 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Stop it NOW! Enough! This isn’t elementary school. Eli can take any controversy thrown his way, if there is any. God bless you. You are a sweet, old man. But this would be THE best move for the team. It makes so much sense - football wise and economics wise - that everyone should root for this. But, alas, it's likely not going to happen...despite being the best trade opportunity I have seen in probably decades. I wouldn’t have a problem with Rosen. The concussions could be a concern and the NY pressure could get to him. That said, bring him on if the Giants really like him. Rosen had two concussions in 2017, but none in 15, 16 or 18. I think the NY pressure thing is waaaayyy overblown. Can you remember the last Giants QB who had the talent to succeed, but failed because of this mythical "NY pressure"? I can't and I've been a NYG fan since 65. The myth applies not only to Rosen, but you also see BBIers posting the same stuff about Big Ben as if he would somehow have failed in NY. It's silly. There's media pressure everywhere these days in the 24/7 twitter-world we live in.

Totally disagree with you about the NY pressure. We’ll leave it at that. Glad for the info on his concussions

In comment 14405579 FStubbs said:

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If the Giants trade for Rosen, he sits this year while Eli plays, and watches how a 2 time champion prepares for games, breaks down film, etc and then becomes the starter in 2020. There is nothing wrong with that. Steve Young was a starter and then ended up backing up Montana afterward for awhile.

Good example.

Not really, Eli would tell Rosen to get his f-ing shine box is more like it.

In comment 14405743 GFAN52 said:

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In comment 14405579 FStubbs said: Quote: If the Giants trade for Rosen, he sits this year while Eli plays, and watches how a 2 time champion prepares for games, breaks down film, etc and then becomes the starter in 2020. There is nothing wrong with that. Steve Young was a starter and then ended up backing up Montana afterward for awhile. Good example.

It's actually not. There wasn't a cap system in place back in the '80s. That changes the dynamics of everything.

In comment 14405745 BSIMatt said:

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Not really, Eli would tell Rosen to get his f-ing shine box is more like it.

I don't think Eli is that well versed in Goodfellas.

otherwise you let a loser culture/mentality into your orginization... this is a meritocracy..

In comment 14405741 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14405718 Jim in Tampa said: Quote: In comment 14405659 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 14405649 bw in dc said: Quote: In comment 14405633 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Stop it NOW! Enough! This isn’t elementary school. Eli can take any controversy thrown his way, if there is any. God bless you. You are a sweet, old man. But this would be THE best move for the team. It makes so much sense - football wise and economics wise - that everyone should root for this. But, alas, it's likely not going to happen...despite being the best trade opportunity I have seen in probably decades. I wouldn’t have a problem with Rosen. The concussions could be a concern and the NY pressure could get to him. That said, bring him on if the Giants really like him. Rosen had two concussions in 2017, but none in 15, 16 or 18. I think the NY pressure thing is waaaayyy overblown. Can you remember the last Giants QB who had the talent to succeed, but failed because of this mythical "NY pressure"? I can't and I've been a NYG fan since 65. The myth applies not only to Rosen, but you also see BBIers posting the same stuff about Big Ben as if he would somehow have failed in NY. It's silly. There's media pressure everywhere these days in the 24/7 twitter-world we live in. Totally disagree with you about the NY pressure. We’ll leave it at that. Glad for the info on his concussions

Of course you're going to leave it at that. Because you can't come up with a single example of a talented NYG player (not just a QB) who failed because of this NY pressure myth.

Not trying to be a jerk here, but simply saying "totally disagree...we'll leave it as that" means you don't have an answer.

Have a good draft night anyway!

I just don't think Gettleman is going to trade for Rosen, because, you know, they're just not sure about him, unlike say Kyle Lauletta, who they are sure about apparently.

Too many question marks.