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Casserly Hints a surprise with Haskins

jvm52106 : 5:00 pm
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Charley Casserly just snuck something about "Dwayne Haskins. Big surprise coming tonight." on NFL Network.

Wouldn't elaborate.
DOubt its the Giants  
dep026 : 5:01 pm : link
Because thats expected.

Slips out of first round?
.  
arcarsenal : 5:01 pm : link
Round and round and round we go....
Hope the Redskins move up to #3.....  
MOOPS : 5:03 pm : link
to get him.
Raiders  
BeckShepEli : 5:04 pm : link
At 4
four qb's  
FranchiseQB : 5:04 pm : link
go in the top 17, including haskins.

book it.
Just a guess  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5:04 pm : link
but I think he is suggesting the Raiders take him or someone like the Redskins are going to trade up.
No one with draft day asshat info so far  
Like Baker Mayfield insider info it seems.
He's connected to the Skins...  
bradshaw44 : 5:05 pm : link
This could be the news I heard on the Junkies about the Skins. Probably going to trade with Jets or Raiders if he's still on the board.
RE: Just a guess  
In comment 14405622 Eric from BBI said:
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but I think he is suggesting the Raiders take him or someone like the Redskins are going to trade up.

I think it's either the Raiders at 4 or the Skins with a trade up also.
Or it could just be a bunch of hype  
Beer Man : 5:06 pm : link
to get us all to tune in; which I imagine most of us will be doing anyways.

8:00p can't get here soon enough
I had a feeling Raiders would be a landing spot.  
GuzzaBlue : 5:07 pm : link
felt even more confident when Sy mentioned them moving up to the Jets spot to grab him.

Makes all the sense in the world this trade. I doubt Jets are looking to move all the way back to 15 while they have a top 5 pick. The Jets would still get the guy at 4, they would get at 3. Raiders would get Gruden's QB. Almost makes too much sense.
Make it happen  
Haskins goes top 5

Giants gets a top 3
RE: I had a feeling Raiders would be a landing spot.  
Giants38 : 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14405637 GuzzaBlue said:
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felt even more confident when Sy mentioned them moving up to the Jets spot to grab him.

Makes all the sense in the world this trade. I doubt Jets are looking to move all the way back to 15 while they have a top 5 pick. The Jets would still get the guy at 4, they would get at 3. Raiders would get Gruden's QB. Almost makes too much sense.


You know, 15 minutes before that Sy tweeted the Raiders were going Lock, so just throwing that out there.
RE: Raiders  
Jim Bur(n)t : 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14405620 BeckShepEli said:
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At 4


+1
Like NCAA Brackets,  
Nine-Tails : 5:11 pm : link
It feels like all these reporters and insiders have made all these predictions to cover their bases, so whatever happens they can dig up their prediction and point out that they got it right and thus validating themselves as an insider.
Ha!  
What could it be? Crazy guesses (real surprises) welcome here:

1. AZ taking Haskins #1 overall, couldn't reach agreement with Kyler and Rosen has decided to quit football and teach phlebotomy.

Haskins is really a woman!  
Klaatu : 5:12 pm : link
I knew it.
only big surprises at this point  
bluepepper : 5:13 pm : link
would be a previously unmentioned team making a move up or the Bucs taking him at 5.


...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5:13 pm : link

David Syvertsen @Ourlads_Sy

Looking back at Mike Mayock and what he has looked for in QBs....

Drew Lock. That is going to be the surprise at #4.
I would think Raiders  
jvm52106 : 5:14 pm : link
at 4. I think Bills and Jets may be trading as well.
Does  
anybody else find it odd that teams are letting this information out that would be truthful? I can understand sending out false info.

I just have a hard time understating billion dollar businesses stating the plans they have.

Perhaps the NFL draft is becoming CNN.
How the hell do the Redskins trade from 15 to top 5.  
I just don't see it happening. I think the obvious thing would be the Raiders taking him at 4. People must forget that Gruden loves QBs. He loves to evaluate them. The franchise is moving to Vegas. They can have a fresh new start. He can sit behind Carr for a year. Carr's dead cap hit next year is really low. They can trade him to another team.
RE: RE: I had a feeling Raiders would be a landing spot.  
Philu916 : 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14405651 Giants38 said:
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In comment 14405637 GuzzaBlue said:


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felt even more confident when Sy mentioned them moving up to the Jets spot to grab him.

Makes all the sense in the world this trade. I doubt Jets are looking to move all the way back to 15 while they have a top 5 pick. The Jets would still get the guy at 4, they would get at 3. Raiders would get Gruden's QB. Almost makes too much sense.



You know, 15 minutes before that Sy tweeted the Raiders were going Lock, so just throwing that out there.


Sy tweeted Lock at 4?
RE: Haskins is really a woman!  
Jim Bur(n)t : 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14405657 Klaatu said:
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I knew it.


LOL.. "She's a man baby!"

RE: ...  
Sammo85 : 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14405662 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen @Ourlads_Sy

Looking back at Mike Mayock and what he has looked for in QBs....

Drew Lock. That is going to be the surprise at #4.


That would be a surprise.
RE: ...  
Greg from LI : 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14405662 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen @Ourlads_Sy

Looking back at Mike Mayock and what he has looked for in QBs....

Drew Lock. That is going to be the surprise at #4.


Sy throwing down the mushroom cloud!
I  
DanMetroMan : 5:18 pm : link
mean Lock at 4 would be a surprise... but also not so crazy. He has the upside to be the best QB in this draft. Now his downside is huge but you see a guy who could be a stud.
Yes, he has arguably the most upside  
Greg from LI : 5:19 pm : link
But man, that's a BIG gamble.
RE: only big surprises at this point  
Diver_Down : 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14405660 bluepepper said:
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would be a previously unmentioned team making a move up or the Bucs taking him at 5.



I wouldn't. Back in January, I predicted the Bucs taking Haskins. Despite the public commentary that Winston is their guy, I'm not buying what they are selling. He is playing on his 5th year option at $21M. If they are going to commit to him after this year, it will cost them more than $20M/yr (likely $25-28M/yr). Getting Haskins allows them to reset at the position while Winston proves to the rest of the league that he is worth a 2nd contract.
RE: Yes, he has arguably the most upside  
DanMetroMan : 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14405681 Greg from LI said:
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But man, that's a BIG gamble.


Greg,
For sure. But quite frankly if you really believe you can coach a kid up then it's not crazy. I think Daniel Jones at 6 is absurd. Lock at least you can say "the tools are there to be special".
RE: DOubt its the Giants  
FStubbs : 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14405608 dep026 said:
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Because thats expected.

Slips out of first round?


I think the one the Giants are expected to take is Daniel Jones.
I'd agree Bucs could be interested  
JonC : 5:21 pm : link
Casserly might know if the Redskins traded up to 3, eg.
RE: RE: only big surprises at this point  
In comment 14405683 Diver_Down said:
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would be a previously unmentioned team making a move up or the Bucs taking him at 5.

Diver,

This is a interesting thought. Arians knows QB's. He does have a relationship with Winston I believe from back in High School but interesting thought you present and very believable.





I wouldn't. Back in January, I predicted the Bucs taking Haskins. Despite the public commentary that Winston is their guy, I'm not buying what they are selling. He is playing on his 5th year option at $21M. If they are going to commit to him after this year, it will cost them more than $20M/yr (likely $25-28M/yr). Getting Haskins allows them to reset at the position while Winston proves to the rest of the league that he is worth a 2nd contract.
RE: I'd agree Bucs could be interested  
GFAN52 : 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14405692 JonC said:
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Casserly might know if the Redskins traded up to 3, eg.


If Snyder is involved in the Redskins draft as mentioned before, I can see them trading into the Jets pick for Haskins.
RE: ...  
Giants38 : 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14405662 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen @Ourlads_Sy

Looking back at Mike Mayock and what he has looked for in QBs....

Drew Lock. That is going to be the surprise at #4.


17 minutes later he posted here Raiders were one of three teams interested in Haskins and would trade up to 3 to get him.
Only the Giants  
Pete44 : 5:23 pm : link
pass up a franchise QB for a RB
Diver  
Was not sure how to add on to your comment. I think you present a interesting twist and dynamic not talked about much but certainly plausible. Arians does know QB's so if he likes Haskins or another maybe he does grab one.
Big Surprise?  
JohnF : 5:27 pm : link
Haskins copies a fashion statement?



Eh, more likely Charlie's C. is under the mask!

(I kid, I kid!!!)
RE: RE: Yes, he has arguably the most upside  
In comment 14405690 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14405681 Greg from LI said:


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But man, that's a BIG gamble.



Greg,
For sure. But quite frankly if you really believe you can coach a kid up then it's not crazy. I think Daniel Jones at 6 is absurd. Lock at least you can say "the tools are there to be special".

Agreed, Jones at 17 is an okay gamble but I worry about his upside. He might surprise us all and become a franchise QB but I think it's more likely that his ceiling is Alex Smith. That's good but he won't carry a team or make up for shortcomings on the roster. Lock has a huge upside and while he is far riskier than Jones he could be a special player. Keep in mind that Lock is excellent with the media and he would handle NY as well as Eli IMO.
RE: I  
In comment 14405680 DanMetroMan said:
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mean Lock at 4 would be a surprise... but also not so crazy. He has the upside to be the best QB in this draft. Now his downside is huge but you see a guy who could be a stud.

Grier is the epitome of the word "Grudeny".
Big surprise could be  
jeff57 : 5:31 pm : link
A big slide
RE: Like NCAA Brackets,  
In comment 14405653 Nine-Tails said:
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It feels like all these reporters and insiders have made all these predictions to cover their bases, so whatever happens they can dig up their prediction and point out that they got it right and thus validating themselves as an insider.


Don't reporters and insiders have to be just as secretive as GMs?

They'd be finished if they ever gave information that somehow revealed their source.
Clever man!  
TC : 5:32 pm : link
Virtually everything in the world has been written about Haskins, so irrespective what happens, Charley can claim it was the surprise he wrote about.
Highly Doubtful that Skins are trading up to 3 for Haskins  
ZogZerg : 5:32 pm : link
I'm guessing Raiders or possibly Bucs
I have been saying  
Amtoft : 5:33 pm : link
the Raiders... You don't send your whole scouting department home unless you want it to be a complete secret. They are afraid of a team moving to 3rd and taking him.
RE: RE: I had a feeling Raiders would be a landing spot.  
cokeduplt : 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14405651 Giants38 said:
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felt even more confident when Sy mentioned them moving up to the Jets spot to grab him.

Makes all the sense in the world this trade. I doubt Jets are looking to move all the way back to 15 while they have a top 5 pick. The Jets would still get the guy at 4, they would get at 3. Raiders would get Gruden's QB. Almost makes too much sense.



You know, 15 minutes before that Sy tweeted the Raiders were going Lock, so just throwing that out there.


What is SYs Twitter handle?
RE: RE: only big surprises at this point  
AcidTest : 6:14 pm : link
In comment 14405683 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14405660 bluepepper said:


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would be a previously unmentioned team making a move up or the Bucs taking him at 5.





I wouldn't. Back in January, I predicted the Bucs taking Haskins. Despite the public commentary that Winston is their guy, I'm not buying what they are selling. He is playing on his 5th year option at $21M. If they are going to commit to him after this year, it will cost them more than $20M/yr (likely $25-28M/yr). Getting Haskins allows them to reset at the position while Winston proves to the rest of the league that he is worth a 2nd contract.


Excellent analysis.
RE: Only the Giants  
GothamGiants : 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14405697 Pete44 said:
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pass up a franchise QB for a RB


I love how Darnolds a magical franchise savior or Josh Allen ... meanwhile were stuck with the best RB in football ... and theres QBs every year ...

So ridiculous
Here's the thing with QBs.  
81_Great_Dane : 6:50 pm : link
Most of them bust. The guys that pan out are usually taken early. DG was right about that. Look at the first round QBs, lots of Jake Lockers and Christian Ponders and Johnny Manziels and Byron Leftwichs and Dan McGuires and even Ryan Leafs. Yeah, everybody can say "Well, they shouldn't have been first-rounders." That wasn't what people thought at the time. There are way more first-round busts than later-round finds like Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott and Tom Brady.

If a GM, really, REALLY thinks they see a franchise guy, he should make like Ernie Accorsi and spend whatever it takes to get him. If the Raiders think Lock is that guy, they're right to go get him.

Better be right though.
RE: RE: Only the Giants  
PatersonPlank : 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14405868 GothamGiants said:
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pass up a franchise QB for a RB



I love how Darnolds a magical franchise savior or Josh Allen ... meanwhile were stuck with the best RB in football ... and theres QBs every year ...

So ridiculous


Exactly, I must have missed when Darnold became a franchise QB and not a mediocre bust. I guess Jets fans also missed Barkley becoming an instant All-Pro.
RE: RE: RE: Only the Giants  
In comment 14406042 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14405697 Pete44 said:


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pass up a franchise QB for a RB



I love how Darnolds a magical franchise savior or Josh Allen ... meanwhile were stuck with the best RB in football ... and theres QBs every year ...

So ridiculous



Exactly, I must have missed when Darnold became a franchise QB and not a mediocre bust. I guess Jets fans also missed Barkley becoming an instant All-Pro.


Did Barkley make the All-Pro team? Was Darnold a bust?
RE: four qb's  
OntheRoad : 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14405621 FranchiseQB said:
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go in the top 17, including haskins.


...making Quinnen Williams available. I like it!

🏈
only meatheads with the IQ of a Paramecium  
BlueLou'sBack : 7:54 pm : link
guess that a tweeted "surprise" will be a huge surprise,

because what fool will announce a "surprise" based on uncertain predicted behavior from NUMEROUS subjects.

A surprise will almost certainly be a positive action from 1 player...
...will be a huge SLIDE (not surprise)...  
BlueLou'sBack : 7:56 pm : link
only real meatheads don't catch the evil spell correct genies living in their phones and laptops...
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