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I think it’s obvious that the giants are aiming at being an

plato : 4/25/2019 5:13 pm
offense that runs the ball and wears the opponent down by the fourth quarter, has a strong defense against run and pass with great pass rush and stopping the run and secondary. We will also have a qb who is accurate and can when the occasion called for it can throw an NFL pass down the field.

Look for the draft to reflect this and you will understand why we are going to draft defense that fits our board, offensive lineman as backups, perhaps a safety for secondary, and not a qb, nor trade for one.

Stop the qb bs here.
sounds like  
FranchiseQB : 4/25/2019 5:15 pm : link
a great recipe for building a super bowl winner...

... in 1975.
so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2019 5:15 pm : link
You want a football fan forum to stop talking about the QB position?

Ummmm.... no.
RE: sounds like  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14405667 FranchiseQB said:
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a great recipe for building a super bowl winner...

... in 1975.


Go look up the last few SB champs running game/run defense rankings
.....  
Micko : 4/25/2019 5:19 pm : link
Perhaps the first time I can remember Eli has been described as accurate.
Dear God  
jvm52106 : 4/25/2019 5:19 pm : link
we can still win with Eli this year if the draft goes our way. We can get a guy (end of 1, 2 or trade) for the long term.

no Eric I just am tired of the constant qb what ifs, fake rumors, etc  
plato : 4/25/2019 5:24 pm : link
that really don’t apply to DGs plan for a team. It may be old, he is old, I am old, but winning football as described by DG does come down to battles of big men.

Hope all is well, I am worried about our team, but I think DG will produce a competitive, enjoyable to watch winner. But there will be no thrills ala OBJ at too great a cost nor great running college qbs.
RE: Dear God  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14405685 jvm52106 said:
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we can still win with Eli this year if the draft goes our way. We can get a guy (end of 1, 2 or trade) for the long term.


Tyree Jackson read option with Barkley behind a great OL (Daryl Williams signs)

/dream
RE: no Eric I just am tired of the constant qb what ifs, fake rumors, etc  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14405699 plato said:
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that really don’t apply to DGs plan for a team. It may be old, he is old, I am old, but winning football as described by DG does come down to battles of big men.

Hope all is well, I am worried about our team, but I think DG will produce a competitive, enjoyable to watch winner. But there will be no thrills ala OBJ at too great a cost nor great running college qbs.


If people would stop buying into cliched BS and realize the best run offenses still make the playoffs every year, you’d worry less about DG’s plan
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Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14405676 GothamGiants said:
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Go look up the last few SB champs running game/run defense rankings


Rankings don't tell the entire story. The entire league simply runs less than it used to.

The Patriots were 3rd in attempts and 5th in yardage this year, but their 478 rushes would have ranked 9th 20 years ago and their 2037 yards would have ranked 10th. 30 years ago, it would have been 15th and 11th. 40 years ago? 27th and 19th.
Hmmm...  
Leg of Theismann : 4/25/2019 5:30 pm : link
"We will also have a qb who is accurate and can when the occasion called for it can throw an NFL pass down the field."

Are you referring to Eli? Because he is not going to be around forever. When Eli is gone, where do you propose we are we going to get a QB who is accurate and can throw an NFL pass when occasion calls for it if not the draft?

Screw it, let's just draft Josh Jacobs and run a 2 RB wildcat every single play and see what happens.
Also  
Leg of Theismann : 4/25/2019 5:33 pm : link
Gettleman has said on numerous occasions that he not only likes the KC Chiefs model, but also that if all goes according to plan he will be bringing in Eli's potential successor THIS offseason. He has said he would be pretty bad at his job if he didn't have a plan in place for the future at QB. He's made it pretty clear he is going to make an attempt to bring in a QB of the future and the only way to do that is either by trade or in the early rounds of the draft.
Eli  
PaulN : 4/25/2019 5:33 pm : link
Needs to have a good offensive line to be a good QB. He gets time to make good decisions he will do a good job.
not this year leg, maybe next, but we’ll see. this is what  
plato : 4/25/2019 5:53 pm : link
distinguishes good GMs from failures
RE: RE: RE: sounds like  
UConn4523 : 4/25/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14405705 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14405676 GothamGiants said:


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Go look up the last few SB champs running game/run defense rankings



Rankings don't tell the entire story. The entire league simply runs less than it used to.

The Patriots were 3rd in attempts and 5th in yardage this year, but their 478 rushes would have ranked 9th 20 years ago and their 2037 yards would have ranked 10th. 30 years ago, it would have been 15th and 11th. 40 years ago? 27th and 19th.


I don’t see why that matters. What matters is current stats and trends and regardless of how often you run, running well makes games easier to control. The eta simply doesn’t matter.

I also don’t understand the sheer hatred of this strategy. We aren’t ditching the passing game. We are trying to win the TOP battle and be able to wear teams out, all of which makes it easier for the next QB to be successful.

How many teams are successfully able to do what the Rams (run heavy I might add) and Chiefs are doing when moving from vet QBs?
Lol  
Thegratefulhead : 4/25/2019 6:00 pm : link
It would be a brilliant business idea to discourage high-traffic topics. People are funny.
certainly not my intent. i was hoping to inject a dose of reality. QB  
plato : 4/25/2019 6:15 pm : link
not the issue, defense and running game is. See Shepard at wr.
We are going back to a Power Offence  
RobCrossRiver56 : 4/25/2019 7:22 pm : link
and building up the front 7 on D.

Thank God!
Cody Ford if you're a believer in this approach...  
Torrag : 4/25/2019 7:48 pm : link
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