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Lombardo - Giants and Cardinal Still in Talks about Rosen

gidiefor : Mod : 4/25/2019 6:33 pm
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Matt Lombardo @MattLombardoNFL

I’m told #Giants and #Cardinals remain in talks about a potential Josh Rosen trade.

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sheesh  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/25/2019 6:34 pm : link
Cardinals
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The_Boss : 4/25/2019 6:34 pm : link
Get

It

Done
85 more minutes  
Big Blue '56 : 4/25/2019 6:34 pm : link
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I would give them 17  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/25/2019 6:36 pm : link
and ask for Rosen and Arizona's 2 and 3
......  
Klaatu : 4/25/2019 6:36 pm : link
Why not  
Jegster10 : 4/25/2019 6:36 pm : link
I guess I don't know much about Rosen, but if we can get him cheap then lets try it. But there should be a reason why AZ is moving on from him so soon, seems strange.

Sorry I have been out of the loop a lot lately, not sure what is going on.
RE: sheesh  
Mr. Bungle : 4/25/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14405899 gidiefor said:
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Cardinals

We thought you meant Stanford.
I had Rosen  
Amtoft : 4/25/2019 6:37 pm : link
as the top QB last year... if we can get him for 37... I do it in a New York minute!
Close the deal DG  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2019 6:38 pm : link
I'm not letting myself be optimistic  
Capt. Don : 4/25/2019 6:39 pm : link
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DG "I am calling about Peterson, why do you keep ....Rosen"  
George from PA : 4/25/2019 6:39 pm : link
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Get it done.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/25/2019 6:41 pm : link
Makes too much sense.
37  
Jim Bur(n)t : 4/25/2019 6:41 pm : link
Or eat shyte Keim
RE: I would give them 17  
KerrysFlask : 4/25/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14405906 gidiefor said:
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and ask for Rosen and Arizona's 2 and 3


I'd be ok with that to be honest
Not happening  
micky : 4/25/2019 6:42 pm : link
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Rosen this year  
OBJRoyal : 4/25/2019 6:42 pm : link
After Saquon last year would be a win. Plus the defensive help we can add this year as well
both  
CGiants07 : 4/25/2019 6:43 pm : link
17 and a 4th rounder this year and a 2nd next year for peterson and rosen and there 3 this year
I think the Giants are stalling to see how the top of the draft looks  
superspynyg : 4/25/2019 6:43 pm : link
And how many qbs go in top 15 picks.
careful  
Dodge : 4/25/2019 6:43 pm : link
Jt might come in here and call you a moron.
make it happen DG  
FranchiseQB : 4/25/2019 6:43 pm : link
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They’re moving on from him  
mikeinbloomfield : 4/25/2019 6:46 pm : link
Because the new coach of the Cardinals uses the Air Raid offensive system and Kyler Murray will be better at that system.

Rosen had a terrible year, even given that he was on his back for most of it. Goff had a similarly rookie year. I think Rosen’s our best option this year if he’s cheap in terms of 2019 picks.
RE: careful  
Nine-Tails : 4/25/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14405928 Dodge said:
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Jt might come in here and call you a moron.


Why did that thread get deleted, di it continue escalating?
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Dodge : 4/25/2019 6:49 pm : link
The Mods are weak.
Giants should absolutely play hardball  
widmerseyebrow : 4/25/2019 6:49 pm : link
Cardinals (perhaps inadvertently) signaled that they aren't getting good offers. Giants can claim they're just as interested in the QBs this year to drive the price down. As soon as the Cards draft Murray, Rosen's price goes down.

No need to cave and offer a 1. If this doesn't work out, we turn to the 2020 QBs.
RE: I would give them 17  
since1925 : 4/25/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14405906 gidiefor said:
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and ask for Rosen and Arizona's 2 and 3
#37 and a bottle of Johnny Walker  
Diver_Down : 4/25/2019 6:50 pm : link
should get the deal done. Just make sure Keim gets an Uber.
RE: #37 and a bottle of Johnny Walker  
robbieballs2003 : 4/25/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14405945 Diver_Down said:
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should get the deal done. Just make sure Keim gets an Uber.


Lol
RE: ..  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14405939 Dodge said:
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The Mods are weak.


Dodge, this is about the tenth time the past week you have said this place sucks? Why are you here?

I'll do you the favor.
With Arizona dragging this out,  
Diver_Down : 4/25/2019 6:53 pm : link
they can kiss any 2019 first rounder good-bye. Not enough time for Rosen to get a physical before the traded pick is made. Sounds like a formality, but we were going to sign that Seattle LB a few years ago when he failed his physical. Can't make the presumption that a player will pass another team's medical staff's physical.

I'd give up a 2020 #1 for Rosen  
AnnapolisMike : 4/25/2019 6:55 pm : link
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2nd for Rosen..  
Sean : 4/25/2019 6:55 pm : link
Go BPA at 6 & 17. That would be fantastic.
RE: ..  
Rjanyg : 4/25/2019 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14405939 Dodge said:
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The Mods are weak.


Banned!!!!
My offer for Rosen  
Sy'56 : 4/25/2019 6:57 pm : link
NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.
RE: I'd give up a 2020 #1 for Rosen  
Fast Eddie : 4/25/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14405962 AnnapolisMike said:
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Sarcasm has its limits yaknow
RE: RE: careful  
SJGiant : 4/25/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14405937 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14405928 Dodge said:


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Jt might come in here and call you a moron.



Why did that thread get deleted, di it continue escalating?


Escalation is an understatement
Honestly  
Eli owns all : 4/25/2019 7:00 pm : link
I don’t care after pick 6. I just want defense at 6. Jones Rosen lock Haskins with any combo of 17 or 37 I’m fine with.
Everyone wants to overpay  
Bill L : 4/25/2019 7:00 pm : link
For a guy nobody else wants. We are bidding against ourselves and trying to give away premium picks. It’s crazy.

For me, I don’t want him at any price except possibly a throwaway late rounder. We will rue the day unless we are still prepared to go all in on 2020 regardless of Rosen or not. I’m telling you, he’s a short timer CTE retiree in waiting. Can’t pin our plans and hopes on him.

But DG is gonna do what DG is gonna do. He doesn’t listen to me.
I’ll stop bashing DG for at least a year if he does this  
TD : 4/25/2019 7:00 pm : link
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RE: With Arizona dragging this out,  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/25/2019 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14405953 Diver_Down said:
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they can kiss any 2019 first rounder good-bye. Not enough time for Rosen to get a physical before the traded pick is made. Sounds like a formality, but we were going to sign that Seattle LB a few years ago when he failed his physical. Can't make the presumption that a player will pass another team's medical staff's physical.


I don't tgink that has anything to do with it. If they were offered a first they would have taken it, but they haven't.
i loved rosen last year and still do  
GiantsFan84 : 4/25/2019 7:01 pm : link
if you would have told me last year we'd come out of that draft with rosen AND barkley i'd have geeked out.

if rosen sits for a year fine. i don't care. if he's as good as i think he is, just get him on the damn team

nobody played well on that team. their line was worse than the giants and their coach was a joke. i don't know what these teams have against him. his family? please that is the dumbest reason ever (not a knock against JT i believe him, it's just a dumb reason). he speaks his mind? get over it. if he's throwing TD's and not committing crimes, i could give two shits if he speaks being pro or anti trump. Brady and Belichek talk about their love for trump all the time. get over it.
RE: Everyone wants to overpay  
V.I.G. : 4/25/2019 7:01 pm : link
In comment 14405977 Bill L said:
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For a guy nobody else wants. We are bidding against ourselves and trying to give away premium picks. It’s crazy.

For me, I don’t want him at any price except possibly a throwaway late rounder. We will rue the day unless we are still prepared to go all in on 2020 regardless of Rosen or not. I’m telling you, he’s a short timer CTE retiree in waiting. Can’t pin our plans and hopes on him.

But DG is gonna do what DG is gonna do. He doesn’t listen to me.


NE will take him - not negotiating against yourself.
RE: I'd give up a 2020 #1 for Rosen  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14405962 AnnapolisMike said:
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Overpay.
Paralysis  
AcidTest : 4/25/2019 7:02 pm : link
by analysis. As my father said, "Life's about choices. Make one. You don't get paid unless you make a decision. Then walk away tough."
RE: RE: ..  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/25/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14405948 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14405939 Dodge said:


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The Mods are weak.



Dodge, this is about the tenth time the past week you have said this place sucks? Why are you here?

I'll do you the favor.


LOL, awesome
RE: My offer for Rosen  
BlueHurricane : 4/25/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14405968 Sy'56 said:
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NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.


Respectfully.......... No way I would do that.
Go get get  
bigblue18 : 4/25/2019 7:04 pm : link
him, that who I wanted last year
RE: My offer for Rosen  
Big Rick in FL : 4/25/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14405968 Sy'56 said:
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NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.


I've read the most they've been offered is a 3rd. Can't see them jumping all the way to 6 if that is true.
RE: My offer for Rosen  
AcidTest : 4/25/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14405968 Sy'56 said:
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NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.


I think you meant #33.
RE: RE: With Arizona dragging this out,  
Diver_Down : 4/25/2019 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14405980 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14405953 Diver_Down said:


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they can kiss any 2019 first rounder good-bye. Not enough time for Rosen to get a physical before the traded pick is made. Sounds like a formality, but we were going to sign that Seattle LB a few years ago when he failed his physical. Can't make the presumption that a player will pass another team's medical staff's physical.




I don't tgink that has anything to do with it. If they were offered a first they would have taken it, but they haven't.


I didn't mean to imply that a first was offered. But rather, Arizona holding and dragging this out for a first is not happening.
Do you mean Lombardi?  
Torrag : 4/25/2019 7:09 pm : link
I don't know who Lombardo is.
For what it's worth - Anita Marks said yesterday that Rosen  
GeofromNJ : 4/25/2019 7:09 pm : link
is a prima donna, arrives late, leaves early, does not watch film, and with his family's wealth, does not need the money. If true, this could be the reason AZ is dumping him. Talent wise, he may be better than Jones and Lock, but he may be the character that DG claims he wants to avoid.
RE: For what it's worth - Anita Marks said yesterday that Rosen  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14406022 GeofromNJ said:
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is a prima donna, arrives late, leaves early, does not watch film, and with his family's wealth, does not need the money. If true, this could be the reason AZ is dumping him. Talent wise, he may be better than Jones and Lock, but he may be the character that DG claims he wants to avoid.


Last year Anita Marks said:

If Davis Webb continues to WOW as he has been doing she sees Eli not being here past this year and his cheap salary will allow LC and OBJ to get money and have money for other signings since Eli will be off the books.

She's beyond clueless.
RE: My offer for Rosen  
j_rud : 4/25/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14405968 Sy'56 said:
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NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.


Why offer 6 when 17 wouod likely get it done? Shit, theres a decent chance 37 gets it done after the pick is made.
RE: For what it's worth - Anita Marks said yesterday that Rosen  
Rjanyg : 4/25/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14406022 GeofromNJ said:
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is a prima donna, arrives late, leaves early, does not watch film, and with his family's wealth, does not need the money. If true, this could be the reason AZ is dumping him. Talent wise, he may be better than Jones and Lock, but he may be the character that DG claims he wants to avoid.


Marcus Golden says he is a great teammate and hard worker. First in bldg and last out. Anita Marks knows nothing.
37 should get it done  
jeff57 : 4/25/2019 7:13 pm : link
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Anita Marks knows nothing  
PatersonPlank : 4/25/2019 7:14 pm : link
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RE: My offer for Rosen  
montanagiant : 4/25/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14405968 Sy'56 said:
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NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.

I would hate this
RE: Everyone wants to overpay  
Danny80 : 4/25/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14405977 Bill L said:
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For a guy nobody else wants. We are bidding against ourselves and trying to give away premium picks. It’s crazy.

For me, I don’t want him at any price except possibly a throwaway late rounder. We will rue the day unless we are still prepared to go all in on 2020 regardless of Rosen or not. I’m telling you, he’s a short timer CTE retiree in waiting. Can’t pin our plans and hopes on him.

But DG is gonna do what DG is gonna do. He doesn’t listen to me.


I'm not saying they Giants should bid against themselves--i think the 37 pick will end up doing it (if they do it). But why will the Giants "rue the day" of trading a second or third round pick (if they trade some other picks to get another third rounder to trade to Arizona) for Rosen. The Giants drafted Davis Webb in the third round two years ago and cut him before his second year. It was a waste of a third round pick, but I don't think the Giants are Ruing the day. They picked Kyle Lauletta in the 4th round -- an ultra dumb pick -- but the Giants will still not rue the day when they cut him or relegate him to third string at best. It sucks to waste draft picks in the middle of the draft, but risking a second or third round pick on a guy who was a top 10 pick last year and unquestionably has a high ceiling of potential is a risk worth taking, even if he ends up flopping. It's not like taking Akili Smith with the third pick in the draft.
RE: careful  
Jay on the Island : 4/25/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14405928 Dodge said:
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Jt might come in here and call you a moron.

Hey dodge, GFY
Please let this be true  
Jay on the Island : 4/25/2019 7:20 pm : link
If they pass on Rosen but then trade up from 37 for Grier or Finley they will regret it.
Get Rosen  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 7:21 pm : link
not gonna announce it until after they select f
Danny  
Bill L : 4/25/2019 7:22 pm : link
Too many holes. Too rich a draft in true areas of need.
RE: Danny  
Bill L : 4/25/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14406083 Bill L said:
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Too many holes. Too rich a draft in true areas of need.


Make that Immediate need
RE: My offer for Rosen  
kes722 : 4/25/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14405968 Sy'56 said:
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NYG gives

#6

ARI gives

QB Rosen
#37 overall (2nd)
#140 overall (5th)

Then NYG makes an aggressive trade up from #17 to get their defender. Only reason I think it has to be this...MIA and WAS offering their #1 is a real possibility.



That would be a good trade. Alot here had him as the top QB last year.
And just for the  
kes722 : 4/25/2019 7:26 pm : link
"If he is so good then why is AZ trading him" people.

Why did ATL trade Brett Favre?

Dumb franchises do dumb things
RE: And just for the  
riceneggs : 4/25/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14406105 kes722 said:
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"If he is so good then why is AZ trading him" people.

Why did ATL trade Brett Favre?

Dumb franchises do dumb things


So only one example in the 80+ years of the draft???
Atlanta traded Favre  
ij_reilly : 4/25/2019 7:38 pm : link
because he was a drunk.
RE: Everyone wants to overpay  
montanagiant : 4/25/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14405977 Bill L said:
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For a guy nobody else wants. We are bidding against ourselves and trying to give away premium picks. It’s crazy.

For me, I don’t want him at any price except possibly a throwaway late rounder. We will rue the day unless we are still prepared to go all in on 2020 regardless of Rosen or not. I’m telling you, he’s a short timer CTE retiree in waiting. Can’t pin our plans and hopes on him.

But DG is gonna do what DG is gonna do. He doesn’t listen to me.

+1000
WE have the perfect opportunity to fix  
montanagiant : 4/25/2019 7:48 pm : link
3 huge areas of need on this team IF we don't go all Kevin Costner Draft Day in this draft.

Get the pass rusher we need, get the LB we need, get the Tackle we need. Fix the damn lines and you fix a ton of issues we have had for years
Been hearing this nonsense with how close we are  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/25/2019 7:50 pm : link
for several years now. Blah blah blah.
RE: I'd give up a 2020 #1 for Rosen  
5BowlsSoon : 4/25/2019 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14405962 AnnapolisMike said:
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You are crazy.....
ESPN is saying  
montanagiant : 4/25/2019 7:53 pm : link
Miami is interested in Rosen
Sounds like Miami making a deal  
UberAlias : 4/25/2019 7:53 pm : link
For Rosen.
RE: Sounds like Miami making a deal  
The_Boss : 4/25/2019 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14406232 UberAlias said:
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For Rosen.


Fuckin DG
I thought Miami liked the 2020 QB’s?  
Sean : 4/25/2019 7:55 pm : link
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Good  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 7:57 pm : link
Wait until 2020 when AZ/MIA will be out of the running for a top QB
Uber where you seeing that?  
ryanmkeane : 4/25/2019 7:57 pm : link
...
RE: Uber where you seeing that?  
montanagiant : 4/25/2019 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14406263 ryanmkeane said:
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ESPN is reporting it
Had the giants taken Rosen last year...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/25/2019 8:07 pm : link
... Many here who want a quarterback but don't want to trade for Rosen would have been happy.

Tonight should be fun.
RE: RE: ..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14405948 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14405939 Dodge said:


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The Mods are weak.



Dodge, this is about the tenth time the past week you have said this place sucks? Why are you here?

I'll do you the favor.


So in other words, getting Dodge the hell out of here:)
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