How do you justify taking him at 6? He's there at 17. They literally did this so DG can stand up there like a prick and say in his phony boston accent "we had conviction, you don't get cute when you have your guy." They used the 6 pick in the draft so they don't have to answer a tough question to the media.
This is why the Giants are losers.
How many times in the past 2 weeks have we seen "Teams/scouts like Jones much more than media/analysts"? You have no clue if he would have been there. None.
And what question are they avoiding answering? That makes less sense than the idea you're asserting.
I don't know enough to grade a player but I thought
Josh Allen would be the pick but really didn't expect
him to fall to us .
I am going to reserve judgement on DG but it seems to me
that they could have waited Steelers jumped up to take Bush .
I wonder maybe the Broncos wanted Jones just spit balling .
He has a year to prepare barring injury ...
Who at #17 RT or edge rusher ????
Says he wants to come away with 2 starters tonight and passes up on a bunch of guys who could be day 1 starters on that defense including some real studs like Allen. Instead he drafts a guy who has no shot to get on the field this year and who many think has the talent of a career backup. I mean I’ll suck it up and cheer for the guy but that was truly a shit pick
But, that tells me they love the guy and think he's the goods.
Not what I'd have done, but it's not my job and Jones is a Giant now. I will pull for him and hope he's everything the FO thinks he'll be.
Some of the comments here are embarrassing. Get a grip, guys.
This stuff happens every year in almost every sport. Fans go absolutely wild over a draft pick of a guy they barely watched and throw a fucking fit over it.
We won't know if this was a good decision or not for about 3-4 years. It surprised me, and it's not the route I'd have gone... but I get it.
This offense needs to run through Barkley. We can do it with Jones.
The Giants definetly need some outside consultation to come in. Â
we are in year 2. We now have the QB drama behind us and can attack the rest of the roster. We don't have to use capital to trade up next year. This isn't going to be a well received pick right now but down the line it could work out well.
How do you justify taking him at 6? He's there at 17. They literally did this so DG can stand up there like a prick and say in his phony boston accent "we had conviction, you don't get cute when you have your guy."
That's my thing. I don't know if Jones will be good or not, I could see him being a good QB. But at 6? Especially with Allen there? No. Not even close.
RE: I think everyone is missing forest through trees Â
in the history of the franchise and pledges alligence to Eli and he's a genius. Now it appears the "we're all in on Eli" is the smokescreen it was and he needs to be fired.
God I hope he's right on Jones. He has balls, if Jones fails, he's done.
RE: The Giants will probably take another QB at 17 Â
But it was not good use of value. You could get similar guys at #17. At six we could have gotten and impact rusher. That’s where we did a bad job tonight.
RE: The Giants definetly need some outside consultation to come in. Â
But, that tells me they love the guy and think he's the goods.
Not what I'd have done, but it's not my job and Jones is a Giant now. I will pull for him and hope he's everything the FO thinks he'll be.
Some of the comments here are embarrassing. Get a grip, guys.
This stuff happens every year in almost every sport. Fans go absolutely wild over a draft pick of a guy they barely watched and throw a fucking fit over it.
We won't know if this was a good decision or not for about 3-4 years. It surprised me, and it's not the route I'd have gone... but I get it.
This offense needs to run through Barkley. We can do it with Jones.
Thanks for this rational post. It's just a bit annoying have all my Jets, Phins, etc fans friends laughing their asses off. I hope Jones is more Peyton as Gil Brandt said and proves all of us wrong. I just wish they went Allen and then traded up for Jones if they wanted him that badly.
Says he wants to come away with 2 starters tonight and passes up on a bunch of guys who could be day 1 starters on that defense including some real studs like Allen. Instead he drafts a guy who has no shot to get on the field this year and who many think has the talent of a career backup. I mean I’ll suck it up and cheer for the guy but that was truly a shit pick
General managers lie.
What do you expect? Him to outright tell us who he wants to pick?
we are in year 2. We now have the QB drama behind us and can attack the rest of the roster. We don't have to use capital to trade up next year. This isn't going to be a well received pick right now but down the line it could work out well.
Unless Jones is the real deal the QB drama hasn’t even begun yet. If he is shit we are going to be in qb hell for a long time. Hoping for the best but not thrilled with Jones
By this organization... you dont reach for a qb but u select jones at 6. You have to be kidding me. With josh allen there who is a perfect fit in the 3-4 absolutely ridiculous
Eli to replace Eli. Smooth transition. The guy is very smart. poised and cultured. Can throw the ball. Fits our offense, not Jerry Reese's. Meanwhile, didya see Allen with the kid? He's a college kid himself. Culture change, long overdue.
This was Shurmer's pick. PS has to win this year or next.
If Eli surprises, then great and if not then they go with Jones next year.
Let's give this kid a chance fellas.
no one asked him anything. He’s a career loser as a HC. He’ll take what he gets and like it. This was Dave and Jawn with the deciding factor being, incredibly, the identity of the kid’s college coach.
At this organization... you dont reach for a qb but u select jones at 6. You have to be kidding me. With josh allen there who is a perfect fit in the 3-4 absolutely ridiculous
*Allen has been labeled an automatic top 5 player in this draft. I do have a 1st round grade on him but I don’t think he is close to the elite level. I love the frame and I do think he has the potential to put on even more weight, but I borderline think it is mandatory for him to add the power to his game. He lost too many one on one battles where he didn’t get the initial position advantage and that rubs me the wrong way. However I love how he can fill multiple roles and I think he plays the game the right way. He will be dependably and consistently solid, but that is where it ends for me
How do you justify taking him at 6? He's there at 17. They literally did this so DG can stand up there like a prick and say in his phony boston accent "we had conviction, you don't get cute when you have your guy." They used the 6 pick in the draft so they don't have to answer a tough question to the media.
This is why the Giants are losers.
How many times in the past 2 weeks have we seen "Teams/scouts like Jones much more than media/analysts"? You have no clue if he would have been there. None.
And what question are they avoiding answering? That makes less sense than the idea you're asserting.
The look of shock at hearing Daniel, my goodness
Josh Allen would be the pick but really didn't expect
him to fall to us .
I am going to reserve judgement on DG but it seems to me
that they could have waited Steelers jumped up to take Bush .
I wonder maybe the Broncos wanted Jones just spit balling .
He has a year to prepare barring injury ...
Who at #17 RT or edge rusher ????
But, that tells me they love the guy and think he's the goods.
Not what I'd have done, but it's not my job and Jones is a Giant now. I will pull for him and hope he's everything the FO thinks he'll be.
Some of the comments here are embarrassing. Get a grip, guys.
This stuff happens every year in almost every sport. Fans go absolutely wild over a draft pick of a guy they barely watched and throw a fucking fit over it.
We won't know if this was a good decision or not for about 3-4 years. It surprised me, and it's not the route I'd have gone... but I get it.
This offense needs to run through Barkley. We can do it with Jones.
How do you justify taking him at 6? He's there at 17. They literally did this so DG can stand up there like a prick and say in his phony boston accent "we had conviction, you don't get cute when you have your guy."
That's my thing. I don't know if Jones will be good or not, I could see him being a good QB. But at 6? Especially with Allen there? No. Not even close.
And then you pass on Lawrence because you have Jones and want to give him one more year.
That is some fucking criteria.
I had a feeling these dolts at Jints Central would do this, but I am still floored.
Last year we began the process of going into QB hell by passing on Darnold and Rosen. And now we are officials in the vortex of QB Hell...
Nobody ever said that about the QB.
This is 100% a Mara dictate. See how quickly Allen and Oliver and Bush went after that. Instantly.
God I hope he's right on Jones. He has balls, if Jones fails, he's done.
It is so sad that this is so true that I laughed out loud at this. *sigh*
I’ll hope for the best, but man am I disappointed. This organization is so stodgy and stuck in their unsuccsssful ways, it is infuriating.
Agreed.
I hope so
Reese's drips are gone.
How is this safe? This tells me DG is pushing his chips all in on a strategy not many agree with.
No idea if it will work but this was anything but, safe.
If Eli surprises, then great and if not then they go with Jones next year.
Let's give this kid a chance fellas.
That's not the point - it's about passing on a guy who would have given us half a chance to make a damn stop in the 4th quarter.
My ass.
But, that tells me they love the guy and think he's the goods.
Not what I'd have done, but it's not my job and Jones is a Giant now. I will pull for him and hope he's everything the FO thinks he'll be.
Some of the comments here are embarrassing. Get a grip, guys.
This stuff happens every year in almost every sport. Fans go absolutely wild over a draft pick of a guy they barely watched and throw a fucking fit over it.
We won't know if this was a good decision or not for about 3-4 years. It surprised me, and it's not the route I'd have gone... but I get it.
This offense needs to run through Barkley. We can do it with Jones.
Thanks for this rational post. It's just a bit annoying have all my Jets, Phins, etc fans friends laughing their asses off. I hope Jones is more Peyton as Gil Brandt said and proves all of us wrong. I just wish they went Allen and then traded up for Jones if they wanted him that badly.
He’ll, wed have three project quarterbacks. Someone would have to hit, right?
General managers lie.
What do you expect? Him to outright tell us who he wants to pick?
Unless Jones is the real deal the QB drama hasn’t even begun yet. If he is shit we are going to be in qb hell for a long time. Hoping for the best but not thrilled with Jones
so much for this so much for that
did you think the giants would tell who they were picking???
take a breathe....burns or weilkins is nice at 17
This is not a surprise.
The Giants must believe in Jones. We'll see if they are right.
You all don't know nearly as much as you think you do.
If Eli surprises, then great and if not then they go with Jones next year.
Let's give this kid a chance fellas.