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New York Giants 1st Round Pick (17): DT Dexter Lawrence

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2019 10:10 pm
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Excellent,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/25/2019 10:10 pm : link
off of the reports Ive seen
Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Anakim : 4/25/2019 10:11 pm : link
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
Run stuffer  
Beer Man : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
no pass rush (8<
Was that worth OBJ?  
Route 9 : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
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Nice  
kes722 : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
Wanted an OT but I'll take it
This is a terrific pick  
dpinzow : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Good  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
pick.
This kid has skills...  
bw in dc : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
I pushed for him yesterday.

I can get behind this...
Great pick  
Jay on the Island : 4/25/2019 10:12 pm : link
Lawrence is a monster in the middle. Tomlinson could move back to DE.
If he is Haloti Ngata  
Mike in NY : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
I will take that
RE: Was that worth OBJ?  
Essex : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14407455 Route 9 said:
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I have no idea, but that is only 1/3rd of what we got for OBJ
Excellent pick  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
Takes some sting off. ... some
RE: This is a terrific pick  
Mr. Nickels : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14407464 dpinzow said:
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL


Because Josh Rosen is a bust and a loser?
Makes me feel better about Jones  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
Night went from F to a C. Allen + Lawrence wouldve been an A.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
Boom.

Exactly what I wanted them to do there.

Nice pick.
now maybe some  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
of the tears will dry up
Tomlinson  
jeff57 : 4/25/2019 10:13 pm : link
Back to the outside
Good pick......  
Simms11 : 4/25/2019 10:14 pm : link
I like it. DG knows linemen
Fits the definition  
Beer Man : 4/25/2019 10:14 pm : link
of Hog Mollie
Hopefully we'll draft another Lawrence from Clemson in 2021...  
Anakim : 4/25/2019 10:14 pm : link
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RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
UConn4523 : 4/25/2019 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14407452 Anakim said:
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.


Odd take given his cost and age/injuries. Do you want snacks for 8-10 games for 1 year or a younger version of Snacks (hopefully) who can rush the passer better for the next 5?
nice  
jpkmets : 4/25/2019 10:15 pm : link
I like this pick a good deal.
LOL  
Chef : 4/25/2019 10:15 pm : link
. great stuff... no one called any of this..
Is he better than Sweat?  
UberAlias : 4/25/2019 10:15 pm : link
?
Good pick. Excellent, perhaps.  
The_Boss : 4/25/2019 10:15 pm : link
Allen and Jones would have been a stellar haul...too bad DG has to embarrass himself by reaching for a mediocre at best Qb at 6.
Hopefully we'll draft another Lawrence from Clemson in 2021...  
Anakim : 4/25/2019 10:15 pm : link
. He gave Daniel Jones quite a shellacking when Clemson played Duke.


He also had a fat guy TD against Louisville, I believe
LOL  
Chef : 4/25/2019 10:15 pm : link
. great stuff... no one called any of this..
LOL  
Chef : 4/25/2019 10:16 pm : link
. great stuff... no one called any of this..
Good pick. Excellent, perhaps.  
The_Boss : 4/25/2019 10:16 pm : link
Allen and Jones would have been a stellar haul...too bad DG had to embarrass himself by reaching for a mediocre at best Qb at 6.
Hopefully it wasnt the roids that made him so good  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:16 pm : link
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So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:17 pm : link
Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Hopefully it wasnt the roids that made him so good  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:17 pm : link
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Good Pick  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:18 pm : link
Some real clueless comments here
Combining Lawrence with Josh Allen was my hope.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/25/2019 10:18 pm : link
Obviously Dave Gettleman disagreed. So be it.
YES!!! Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence makes us Killer D  
George from PA : 4/25/2019 10:18 pm : link
Oh.....wait. never mind
I like Lawrence  
MookGiants : 4/25/2019 10:18 pm : link
but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.

Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
RE: This is a terrific pick  
jeff57 : 4/25/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14407464 dpinzow said:
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL


Giants only want WASPs at QB
RE: Hopefully we'll draft another Lawrence from Clemson in 2021...  
The_Boss : 4/25/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14407485 Anakim said:
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If Jones is who I think he is, we might have a shot.
Great pick Snacks knees are about shot .  
Bluesbreaker : 4/25/2019 10:19 pm : link
We have our NT .
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
GeofromNJ : 4/25/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14407452 Anakim said:
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

My first thought as well. Could've just kept Snacks. But since he didn't, this pick fills an obvious need. Giants need to be able to stop the run. This guy will help.
I love the pick, but DGs culture  
RDJR : 4/25/2019 10:20 pm : link
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
RE: So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:20 pm : link
In comment 14407501 Greg from LI said:
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Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.


Mind numbing.

Like I said before, the whole line jtgiants was pushing about the Giants want to win now was complete and utter bullshit. Not his fault as its what he heard but, it was bullshit nonetheless.
Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2019 10:20 pm : link
like he did at Clemson.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:21 pm : link
Run the football. Stop the run.
What happened to picking Best Value  
nicky43 : 4/25/2019 10:21 pm : link
Certainly wasn't Lawrence.

wow...  
prdave73 : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
Dexter Lawrence, just what the Giants needed another fatty defense Lineman to stop the run?! Why Because giants don't believe in Linebackers?! No pass rush next year I guess??! The Giants gave up on Odell & two high draft choices for these 2 players??!! lol..
Meh  
Dang Man : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
With the defense as bad as it is drafting what could be a two down player isnt ideal. Still have zero pass rush.
RE: RE: This is a terrific pick  
Emil : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14407508 jeff57 said:
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In comment 14407464 dpinzow said:


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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL



Giants only want WASPs at QB


Well I believe Eli is Catholic
RE: YES!!! Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence makes us Killer D  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14407506 George from PA said:
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Oh.....wait. never mind


LOL... [sob]
RE: I like Lawrence  
AcidTest : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14407507 MookGiants said:
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but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.

Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.


Some edge players:

Jaylon Ferguson, Louisiana Tech (2)
Joe Jackson, Miami (2/3).
Jalen Jelks, Oregon (4)

Maybe even Montez Sweat, Mississippi State, in round 2.
Sy, Bingo  
Big Blue '56 : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
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*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.

NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET

RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14407452 Anakim said:
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
RE: So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers  
Leg of Theismann : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14407501 Greg from LI said:
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Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.


Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
RE: I love the pick, but DGs culture  
Sy'56 : 4/25/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14407514 RDJR said:
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?


He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
RE: .  
RDJR : 4/25/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14407519 arcarsenal said:
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Run the football. Stop the run.


Daniel Jones
this is a  
Amtoft : 4/25/2019 10:23 pm : link
strong run stopping DL. Big and strong.
RE: .  
Chef : 4/25/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14407519 arcarsenal said:
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Run the football. Stop the run.


This right here...
Sy loves this guy - Graded him an 85  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:23 pm : link
an he called this pick!

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2: Dexter Lawrence Clemson 64/342

Grade: 85

Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasnt anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.

*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.

NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET
I love this pick!  
Fishmanjim57 : 4/25/2019 10:23 pm : link
This kid is a monster! I just wish DG would've used the 1st pick on Allen, but Dexter Lawrence is gonna be a nightmare for the other teams in the NFC East!
Just pointing out  
Biteymax22 : 4/25/2019 10:23 pm : link
If you go to the pinned mock draft thread, I submitted the last mock before it was un pinned. Time was 10:26 am. I had Jones at 6 and Lawerence at 17...
A good player but a two down player  
Chris L. : 4/25/2019 10:24 pm : link
how do you not get any pass rush in this draft when you have the 6th and 17th picks. The Jones pick will define this franchise and NOT in a good way.
RE: Good Pick  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14407503 ZogZerg said:
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Some real clueless comments here


So we shouldnt worry that he was suspended for using steroids?

I like the pick but, as I said before, hopefully the roids arent what made him so good.
Snacks 2  
5BowlsSoon : 4/25/2019 10:24 pm : link
Im okay with this pick too.

Not sure what the plan is for rushing the qb but we still have plenty of time to deal with that I suppose.
RE: I like Lawrence  
Toth029 : 4/25/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14407507 MookGiants said:
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but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.

Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.

Hill - Lawrence - Tomlinson
RE: LOL  
Klaatu : 4/25/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14407498 Chef said:
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. great stuff... no one called any of this..


Are you kidding? A whole bunch of people were calling for Lawrence at #17, including me.
RE: RE: So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers  
Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14407531 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14407501 Greg from LI said:


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Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.



Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
If it was Lawrence at 6 and Jones at 17...  
x meadowlander : 4/25/2019 10:26 pm : link
...I think the board would be better.

Be ready for some C+ grades tho
Nice pick  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2019 10:26 pm : link
I think hell really fit this defense and improve it up front.
RE: I love the pick, but DGs culture  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14407514 RDJR said:
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?


Bingo
RE: Was that worth OBJ?  
Scuzzlebutt : 4/25/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14407455 Route 9 said:
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Yes
And, He is Sy's 4th (T) HIGHEST rated Player in the Draft  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:27 pm : link
Nice!
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 4/25/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14407533 RDJR said:
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In comment 14407519 arcarsenal said:


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Run the football. Stop the run.



Daniel Jones


Yes, we drafted a QB too. Because the one we have is 38 years old and declining.

Maybe not who you wanted.

I didn't like him as much as some other QB's either. But, I'm pretty sure the QB is an important part of the football equation.
They'll be able to stop the run  
oreojenkins : 4/25/2019 10:27 pm : link
in the 4th Q when the other guys are running out the clock. Great pick.
The Giants don't believe in Linebackers or  
prdave73 : 4/25/2019 10:28 pm : link
Pass Rushers anymore. They have now completely gone away from what made them successful in the past.. Smdh..
RE: Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations  
KeoweeFan : 4/25/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14407516 GFAN52 said:
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like he did at Clemson.


Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
Oliver/Laurence/Hill  
idiotsavant : 4/25/2019 10:29 pm : link
Nice!

Oh.... Wait.

Pick 6. Mara

Pick 17. The Getts
RE: RE: RE: .  
Big Blue '56 : 4/25/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14407565 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14407533 RDJR said:


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In comment 14407519 arcarsenal said:


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Run the football. Stop the run.



Daniel Jones



Yes, we drafted a QB too. Because the one we have is 38 years old and declining.

Maybe not who you wanted.

I didn't like him as much as some other QB's either. But, I'm pretty sure the QB is an important part of the football equation.


Btw and fwiw? Gil Brandts top 150 had Jones ranked 17th and Lawrence 24th
RE: RE: Was that worth OBJ?  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14407562 Scuzzlebutt said:
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Yes


Absolutely not.
RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Anakim : 4/25/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14407530 Joey in VA said:
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?



This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
RE: RE: I love the pick, but DGs culture  
madgiantscow009 : 4/25/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14407532 Sy'56 said:
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?



He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation


which one?
RE: RE: I love the pick, but DGs culture  
RDJR : 4/25/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14407532 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 14407514 RDJR said:


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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?





He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation


Thanks for the info., but what is a near non-factor? So with some teams it was a factor?
Team  
Nine-Tails : 4/25/2019 10:30 pm : link
Won't be good next year, which should be expected. Defense lacks pass rush, took a 2 down nose tackle, also 4 DG drafted in past three drafts. Linebackers still suck, corner and safety depth is poor. Also, passed on jawaan Taylor and Dillard, so offense isn't in great shape either. Man I'm depressed right now.
This kid is a monster inside  
Sneakers O'toole : 4/25/2019 10:31 pm : link
Great pick.
RE: Team  
Mike in NY : 4/25/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14407584 Nine-Tails said:
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Won't be good next year, which should be expected. Defense lacks pass rush, took a 2 down nose tackle, also 4 DG drafted in past three drafts. Linebackers still suck, corner and safety depth is poor. Also, passed on jawaan Taylor and Dillard, so offense isn't in great shape either. Man I'm depressed right now.


You arent filling all of those positions with one pick
RE: RE: Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations  
Anakim : 4/25/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14407570 KeoweeFan said:
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like he did at Clemson.



Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)



I remember Lawrence had a rushing TD against Louisville (I mentioned that earlier)
RE: RE: Was that worth OBJ?  
Nine-Tails : 4/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14407562 Scuzzlebutt said:
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Hell no. Ja dil Peppers, Lawrence and number 95 is no way shape or form worth Beckham.


Yes
RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Amtoft : 4/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14407577 Anakim said:
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In comment 14407452 Anakim said:


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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.


No joke... this draft is deep in WR, RT, Safeties, CBs, and MLB... Even some good ER, but we do have Markus Golden and Carter.
RE: Oliver/Laurence/Hill  
dk in TX : 4/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14407572 idiotsavant said:
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Nice!

Oh.... Wait.

Pick 6. Mara

Pick 17. The Getts


I am tired of all these excuses for that doofus, Dave Gettleman.😤😤😤
RE: If it was Lawrence at 6 and Jones at 17...  
Biteymax22 : 4/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14407552 x meadowlander said:
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...I think the board would be better.

Be ready for some C+ grades tho


Truest statement spoken tonight
RE: RE: This is a terrific pick  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/25/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14407474 Mr. Nickels said:
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In comment 14407464 dpinzow said:


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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL



Because Josh Rosen is a bust and a loser?


Better to remain silent and let people think you are a fool than to write a comment like this and remove all doubt.
with Sweat and Taylor available  
islander1 : 4/25/2019 10:35 pm : link
this is yet another swing and miss.

Lawrence Likes our new QB  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:37 pm : link
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Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
34s35 seconds ago

Paul Schwartz Retweeted Paul Schwartz

Lawrence says Daniel Jones is "deceptively fast'' and "I have a lot of respect for him.'' Said a lot of Jones' passes at Duke were dropped.

Paul Schwartz added,
Paul Schwartz
Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
Dexter Lawrence on playing against QB Daniel Jones: "I think he's really special.''
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Lawrence is a stud  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 10:37 pm : link
and Josh Allen paired with him wouldve been a dream come true

Im glad the Mannings like Dexter Lawrence, I wonder who they like for tomorrow.
.  
idiotsavant : 4/25/2019 10:37 pm : link
Oliver/Laurence/Hill (Roster olb)

Or

Hill/Laurence/Tomlinson (J. Allen)



HMF
More  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:39 pm : link
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Art Stapleton
‏Verified account @art_stapleton
51s52 seconds ago

Art Stapleton Retweeted Reggie Stewart

Oliver went 9 overall to Buffalo.

Art Stapleton added,
Reggie Stewart
@reggiestewart
Replying to @art_stapleton
So the Giants ranked Lawrence over Oliver and Simmons, who people have them ranked higher. Interesting.
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RE: Lawrence Likes our new QB  
bigbluescot : 4/25/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14407642 ZogZerg said:
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Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
34s35 seconds ago

Paul Schwartz Retweeted Paul Schwartz

Lawrence says Daniel Jones is "deceptively fast'' and "I have a lot of respect for him.'' Said a lot of Jones' passes at Duke were dropped.

Paul Schwartz added,
Paul Schwartz
Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
Dexter Lawrence on playing against QB Daniel Jones: "I think he's really special.''
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
I don't mind the pick but this stings a little  
illmatic : 4/25/2019 10:40 pm : link
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
RE: RE: RE: So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14407550 Joey in VA said:
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I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.


Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
Lawrence will be on the field  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 10:42 pm : link
on 3rd down - pushing the pocket
Sy called it  
ryanmkeane : 4/25/2019 10:42 pm : link
Nice pick. Jones at 6 still stings
RE: RE: Lawrence Likes our new QB  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14407662 bigbluescot said:
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Lawrence says Daniel Jones is "deceptively fast'' and "I have a lot of respect for him.'' Said a lot of Jones' passes at Duke were dropped.

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Dexter Lawrence on playing against QB Daniel Jones: "I think he's really special.''
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?


Jesus, enough of the fucking whining.
Fucking Pathetic!
RE: Hopefully we'll draft another Lawrence from Clemson in 2021...  
djm : 4/25/2019 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14407495 Anakim said:
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. He gave Daniel Jones quite a shellacking when Clemson played Duke.


He also had a fat guy TD against Louisville, I believe


Dude stop.
I'm pretty pissed about Jones  
George : 4/25/2019 10:43 pm : link
And okay with Lawrence.

But I'm guessing that both could've been had with a trade down, and now we're still staring at a huge gap between 37 and 95.

RE: I don't mind the pick but this stings a little  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14407666 illmatic said:
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer


But hey, the Giants want to win NOW!

What a joke.
This was a bad pick imo..  
prdave73 : 4/25/2019 10:43 pm : link
I don't like it at all. For a Team that needing pass rush in the worse way, this did not help. Guess what, this team is in need of CB too! So not having a pass rush makes things worse! Just a horrible start to the draft imo..
Gettleman did a nice job here  
ghost718 : 4/25/2019 10:44 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2019 10:44 pm : link
This is a very good pick.

People are just pissed off about Jones.
RE: RE: RE: Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations  
KeoweeFan : 4/25/2019 10:44 pm : link
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like he did at Clemson.



Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)




I remember Lawrence had a rushing TD against Louisville (I mentioned that earlier)


Yes, they both came in frequently as part of the elephant goalline package. Dexter mainly blocked while Christian sometimes carried the ball (or even caught a TE pass). Swinney gave Dexter the opportunity in the Louisville game.

Of the two, Christian is more likely to become the next Refrigerator from Clemson.
Art Staleton is missing the basic point  
idiotsavant : 4/25/2019 10:45 pm : link
It's not 'Oliver vs Lawrence.'

It was the clear opportunity to have -both_ on the field at the same time along with Hill or Tomlison
RE: Run stuffer  
uconngiant : 4/25/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14407453 Beer Man said:
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no pass rush (8<


He set the school record for sacks as a freshman just an FYI
Lawrence is an excellent pick  
GothamGiants : 4/25/2019 10:46 pm : link
... I can not believe Allen/Lawrence was a reality. Makes me sick they didnt fix this front 7 overnight
RE: RE: Run stuffer  
Amtoft : 4/25/2019 10:47 pm : link
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no pass rush (8<



He set the school record for sacks as a freshman just an FYI


Stop making sense... this is panic time.
RE: RE: Hopefully we'll draft another Lawrence from Clemson in 2021...  
Anakim : 4/25/2019 10:47 pm : link
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. He gave Daniel Jones quite a shellacking when Clemson played Duke.


He also had a fat guy TD against Louisville, I believe



Dude stop.



Stop what?
RE: ...  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 10:48 pm : link
In comment 14407710 Eric from BBI said:
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This is a very good pick.

People are just pissed off about Jones.


When youre right, youre right.
RE: Lawrence is an excellent pick  
Amtoft : 4/25/2019 10:48 pm : link
In comment 14407734 GothamGiants said:
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... I can not believe Allen/Lawrence was a reality. Makes me sick they didnt fix this front 7 overnight


Allen and anyone for me... How do you pass on Allen.
for all the talk about needing pass rushers  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 10:51 pm : link
Gianst were only 20th against the run. it all starts up front, guess Tomlinson is back to DE?
This is the stuff that drives me nuts here  
djm : 4/25/2019 10:53 pm : link
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.

Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Question,  
bigfrank612 : 4/25/2019 10:54 pm : link
Could it be that Tomlinson is now gonna be traded? Idk if it was said but I figure its a real possibility if his best position is NT...
RE: Art Staleton is missing the basic point  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2019 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14407724 idiotsavant said:
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It's not 'Oliver vs Lawrence.'

It was the clear opportunity to have -both_ on the field at the same time along with Hill or Tomlison


You are missing the point.
The Giants needed a QB and picked one.
All off-season I was ranting about the  
idiotsavant : 4/25/2019 10:54 pm : link
Chance to draft two 'in any other year top ten DLers' in one draft.

And there it was, Wilkins,Oliver,Allen and Lawrence, take your picks.

Not counting Simmons and Sweat.
RE: This is the stuff that drives me nuts here  
clatterbuck : 4/25/2019 10:57 pm : link
In comment 14407796 djm said:
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Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.

Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.


Yes,thank you.
Perspective - would there be all this teeth gnashing  
KeoweeFan : 4/25/2019 10:57 pm : link
yesterday if someone told you that in day one of the draft the Giants would bring home Dexter Lawrence and Jones at QB?

Folks are now quibbling about the order even though some scouts thought Jones may be under-rated on the media draft boards.

I trust professional scouts (and GMs) more than the Mel Kiper clones.
So: in an average DL year, without Q etc etc  
idiotsavant : 4/25/2019 10:58 pm : link
Oliver might have gone top 5.

In a better QB year the QB we drafted might have gone 45.

It's about seeing opportunity.
It's another Tomlinson??!!  
prdave73 : 4/25/2019 10:59 pm : link
How could this be a great pick?? Ask yourselves is this pick worth what the Giants gave up for Odell??? No.. imo.
Tomlinson??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 11:02 pm : link
The two players are nothing alike.

If you stopped shaking your fucking head constantly, your eyes might be able to focus on that.
RE: It's another Tomlinson??!!  
allstarjim : 4/25/2019 11:02 pm : link
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How could this be a great pick?? Ask yourselves is this pick worth what the Giants gave up for Odell??? No.. imo.


No. It's Peppers, Lawrence, and we'll see at #95.

That's 2 key players added to your defense so far.

The DL is going to be really good.
they were 20th against  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:03 pm : link
the run. guy is stout and has some athleticism. and they got a starting safety and return man for OBJ too.
Lawrence makes me wonder  
George : 4/25/2019 11:04 pm : link
if Tomlinson is now expendable.
no Bettcher is creative  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:06 pm : link
he'll find a way to make it work.
Guys  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2019 11:07 pm : link
Dalvin Tomlinson isn't going anywhere. The beat reporters all seem oddly confused this too. Look at our DL depth chart.

Tomlinson now goes back to end.
RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 11:08 pm : link
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:08 pm : link
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.

You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.


Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
Brian Baldinger maintained that Lawrence could play three downs.  
Klaatu : 4/25/2019 11:10 pm : link
That he was athletic enough for it (not just a big fat guy). Of course that remains to be seen.
they play 4-3 sometimes  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:11 pm : link
Tomlinson and Lawrence is a pretty good DT duo - yes/no?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 11:12 pm : link
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.

You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.



Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
You want some fatso? WTF do you contribute here? WTF does Anakim contribute here? Add something you fucking wad of shit or stfu.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/25/2019 11:12 pm : link
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.

You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.


You seem like a really stable, credible person!
watched him on tape  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:12 pm : link
anything that big and that fast ought to have a license plate on its' rear end. ran a 5.03 forty
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:13 pm : link
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.

You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.



Gotta love the keyboard muscles.

You want some fatso? WTF do you contribute here? WTF does Anakim contribute here? Add something you fucking wad of shit or stfu.


Lmao. Youre so pathetic its not even funny.
Tomlinson  
Marty866b : 4/25/2019 11:13 pm : link
Is a JAG. As an end he gives us nothing as a pass rusher. He's good,not great against the run. I do think BJ Hill will help us as a pass rusher.
RE: Guys  
bigfrank612 : 4/25/2019 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14407939 Eric from BBI said:
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Dalvin Tomlinson isn't going anywhere. The beat reporters all seem oddly confused this too. Look at our DL depth chart.

Tomlinson now goes back to end.

Because DG openly stated that he was better at Nose. We arent pulling this out of our asses, Eric. Lol
Watch out everyone  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:14 pm : link
Joey in VA the keyboard warrior is gonna beat us all up with his raging internet muscles!
wonder what percentage  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:16 pm : link
of plays they were in 4-3?
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Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 11:16 pm : link
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.

So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?




This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.

You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.



You seem like a really stable, credible person!
I can run laps around you football wise you know nothing. Stable? Nah, credible, fuck yes. You know fucking shit too as does most of the rabble here. Oh no TTH and Anakim don't like me!!!! What will I do with my life? Go on and ignore you fucking know nothings like I have for 20 years. Please offer anything worthwhile, be different than you have been for years...or don't and be a fucking mook who knows nothing.
LMAO  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:16 pm : link
Im Joey! I can talk tough on the internets!
bigfrank  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2019 11:18 pm : link
Gettlman was clearly lying. He wanted Snacks off of the team. That's obvious now.
RE: LMAO  
Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14408039 Hsilwek92 said:
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Im Joey! I can talk tough on the internets!
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Interesting pick  
Carson53 : 4/25/2019 11:19 pm : link
When do they pick an edge rusher, Rd. 2?
RE: RE: RE: RE: So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers  
Joey in VA : 4/25/2019 11:19 pm : link
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I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.



Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
Yeah but you're a failure at every level.
RE: bigfrank  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14408051 Eric from BBI said:
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Gettlman was clearly lying. He wanted Snacks off of the team. That's obvious now.


Gettleman clearly lies about A LOT of things.
RE: Tomlinson  
Klaatu : 4/25/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14408001 Marty866b said:
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Is a JAG. As an end he gives us nothing as a pass rusher. He's good,not great against the run. I do think BJ Hill will help us as a pass rusher.


A guy like Lawrence can help Tomlinson, as well as our LB's. He's a force multiplier.
RE: RE: LMAO  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:20 pm : link
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Im Joey! I can talk tough on the internets!

Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.


Shocking that youre so unbelievably pathetic that you have to stoop to being a keyboard warrior, pounding your chest about how awesome you are.

Get a fucking life dude.
so what if he lied  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:21 pm : link
what would have been gained by telling people he wanted Snacks off the team?
This is gonna be awkward the next time  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/25/2019 11:22 pm : link
Joey wants to rant about how important locker room culture is while being toxic waste to the culture here.
Joey is...  
bw in dc : 4/25/2019 11:23 pm : link
my favorite poster ever at BBI.



Blah  
Rflairr : 4/25/2019 11:23 pm : link
Wheres this guy going to a play? Hes basically Tomlinson. Idiotic GM.

Two first round picks and no pass rusher and no OL. Worst GM in football
RE: This is gonna be awkward the next time  
Hsilwek92 : 4/25/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14408093 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Joey wants to rant about how important locker room culture is while being toxic waste to the culture here.


JOEY TOUGH! JOEY SMASH!*

*(anonymous people on the internet)
RE: This is a terrific pick  
trueblueinpw : 4/25/2019 11:24 pm : link
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL


I wish you were the GM.
he's not Tomlinson  
bc4life : 4/25/2019 11:25 pm : link
Bigger, stronger, more athletic - more of a true NT
My God Joey shut the fuck up  
montanagiant : 4/25/2019 11:31 pm : link
And act like a damn adult. You don't scare anybody on here and sound like a fucking child with your bad boy claims of how tough you are.


Be a fucking adult for once
HEY WE MOVED UP DEANDRE BAKER Great pick !!  
Bluesbreaker : 4/25/2019 11:45 pm : link
Great pick Snacks knees are about shot .
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We have our NT .
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
RE: This is the stuff that drives me nuts here  
smorgan741 : 4/25/2019 11:51 pm : link
In comment 14407796 djm said:
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Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.

Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.


10/10
RE: This is a terrific pick  
weaverpsu : 4/26/2019 1:01 am : link
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?

We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL


Because that would make sense...
Awful  
weaverpsu : 4/26/2019 1:41 am : link
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
RE: This is the stuff that drives me nuts here  
weaverpsu : 4/26/2019 1:45 am : link
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Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.

Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.


Everyone hated the Flowers pick and EVERYONE was right. Allen was a no brainer that fell in our laps at a position of need. At 6 Jones needs to be an All Pro QB and our 2nd pick made zero sense as well. We need a LB, WR, and DE and we draft a DT. What??
RE: Awful  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 1:47 am : link
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Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.


What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
RE: Perspective - would there be all this teeth gnashing  
weaverpsu : 4/26/2019 1:48 am : link
In comment 14407835 KeoweeFan said:
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yesterday if someone told you that in day one of the draft the Giants would bring home Dexter Lawrence and Jones at QB?

Folks are now quibbling about the order even though some scouts thought Jones may be under-rated on the media draft boards.

I trust professional scouts (and GMs) more than the Mel Kiper clones.


Not when you have lived with picks like Ron Dayne and Ereck Flowers.
RE: RE: Awful  
weaverpsu : 4/26/2019 1:55 am : link
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Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.



What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.


DL was a major need? Interior lineman? Really? More than an edge rusher? Or a LB, or a RT? I'm gonna go ahead and respectively disagree.
This is not a sexy pick, but its not a bad pick  
.McL. : 4/26/2019 2:05 am : link
THe Giants didn't really have a true NT. I firmly believe that Tomlinson's best position is at the 3 technique. I may be in a minority there, but I don't see him as a space eating double team busting NT. He is better when he can penetrate and disrupt. That said, he was serviceable at NT.

What I don't get is DGs fascination at upgrading positions where we have a player, even if they are not ideal. While we continue to ignore positions where we have nothing.

Edge, C, RT, LB, DE, even outside WR. While we picked a good CB in the trade-up, we need more than 1 CB.

We upgraded to a very nice RG, when we could have just resigned the guy we had. Not ideal, but getting a C and/or RT would have a greater impact. Now we upgraded the NT, but could have lived with DT. DE and ER would have a greater impact. Especially when it comes to the trenches, you are only as good as your weakest link...
RE: RE: This is gonna be awkward the next time  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 4/26/2019 5:37 am : link
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Joey wants to rant about how important locker room culture is while being toxic waste to the culture here.



JOEY TOUGH! JOEY SMASH!*

*(anonymous people on the internet)


Dude, that was funny......
Lawrence  
hitdog42 : 4/26/2019 5:39 am : link
Was a sprint to podium guy for the giants. A guy that will set the tone for everyone behind him - and a guy graded very highly - for the giants this is value and addresses a need. He is a stud
Thrilled with the pick...  
x meadowlander : 4/26/2019 5:49 am : link
...would've liked him at 6. Because I fucking HATE a soft interior D. I was raised on Giant D's that rarely gave up 100yds to a back and ruled in short yardage.

This kid is a nightmare. Btw, will improve the linebackers behind him - ++
RE: Lawrence  
JPinstripes : 4/26/2019 6:56 am : link
In comment 14409014 hitdog42 said:
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Was a sprint to podium guy for the giants. A guy that will set the tone for everyone behind him - and a guy graded very highly - for the giants this is value and addresses a need. He is a stud


+1
Lawrence is awesome  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2019 7:07 am : link
we gotta set the tone up front and stop getting our shit kicked in and for ONCE start kicking ass up front
Excellent pick  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/26/2019 7:28 am : link
Give Betcher flexibility with a two-gapping NT. As Parcells said, there's only a few of them in the world, at most 3-4 in the NFL.

I was for trading down a bit and taking Vea last year in the top 10, and we got someone equivalent in the mid 1st.
Rex Ryan  
Lines of Scrimmage : 4/26/2019 7:28 am : link
was praising this young man. Whatever one thinks of Rexm he knows defense.

DG like a lot of us did not enjoy seeing this team pushed around. This kid helps to stop that.

I welcome such a addition and cant wait to see this team getting tough again.
This  
AcidTest : 4/26/2019 8:18 am : link
is a great pick. I thought the Giants might trade down to get extra day two picks, but I'm perfectly fine taking Lawrence at #17. Tremendous run stuffer with some pass rush ability.
RE: Lawrence makes me wonder  
AcidTest : 4/26/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14407912 George said:
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if Tomlinson is now expendable.


I wonder too. I don't think so, but could he be traded, and what would he bring?
RE: RE: Awful  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14408928 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14408919 weaverpsu said:


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Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.



What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.



Lawrence was one of my main targets for the Dline.. He will free up the backers behind him and take pressure off the DE's some as he will need to be double teamed. He is a force and gives us much needed size up the middle.
Love the Dexter Lawrence pick  
ep in md : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
I have watched almost every nationally televised Clemson game he has played in and the guy can simply play DL, period.

His selection makes D. Tomlinson and BJ Hill position's better. His selection makes the LBs and safety playing closer to the line better.

A very good pick at 17 that I would have given consideration to at 6.
Giants  
bc4life : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
were 20th against the run. It's not like pass rush was the only concern. And he can push the pocket.
This was my favorite pick for the Giants  
Jay on the Island : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
I love Lawrence and he is going to be a stud NT for the Giants for a long time. This also allows Tomlinson to go back to DE where I feel he is a better fit. I didn't think he played well enough at NT last season after the Snacks trade. I still hope they add another NT or DE on day 3 for depth.
RE: RE: LMAO  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2019 9:30 am : link
In comment 14408052 Joey in VA said:
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Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.


Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
Hill-Lawrence-Tomlinson  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2019 9:32 am : link
will be awesome. I imagine they will put Lawrence at the 1 and 3 and change him around a bunch. Him and Hill can really push the pocket, and Tomlinson can be the anchor.

Love this pick.
Have to imagine that  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2019 9:33 am : link
Lawrence was rated in the top 12 of this draft for the Giants
RE: Giants  
x meadowlander : 4/26/2019 9:34 am : link
In comment 14409726 bc4life said:
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were 20th against the run. It's not like pass rush was the only concern. And he can push the pocket.
I had NT and C as my biggest draft 'wants'.

And not a 'body' at NT, I wanted a replacement for Snacks. Because Run D begins with a solid interior D-Line. Mentioned before, great NT's make linebackers better, but the reverse isn't true.

Watch Ogletree and Goodson now flourish as Lawrence effectively parks a fucking semi in front of them.

I think this defense is actually decent right now. D-Line and Backfield set - pass rush is now the only concern.
RE: Have to imagine that  
x meadowlander : 4/26/2019 9:35 am : link
In comment 14409804 ryanmkeane said:
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Lawrence was rated in the top 12 of this draft for the Giants
Was in my top-6. I was hoping for him or Devin Bush.
RE: RE: RE: LMAO  
Harvest Blend : 4/26/2019 9:36 am : link
In comment 14409780 Capt. Don said:
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In comment 14408052 Joey in VA said:


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Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.



Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.


We all can pretty much take the next couple of rounds off.
I still would have rather had a pass rusher  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2019 9:37 am : link
But Lawrence can definitely play. I have no problem with this pick.
Love the Lawrence pick  
idiotsavant : 4/26/2019 9:40 am : link
Not a fan at all of the QB pick unless he shocks and is Peyton 2.0.
Lawrence  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2019 10:10 am : link
will help this defense. I cant emphasize how much I love this player and his talent.

I am giddy at thought of him wearing the jersey and watching him play.
RE: Love the Lawrence pick  
GothamGiants : 4/26/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14409857 idiotsavant said:
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Not a fan at all of the QB pick unless he shocks and is Peyton 2.0.


Mobile version of Eli more likely
RE: Hill-Lawrence-Tomlinson  
GothamGiants : 4/26/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14409799 ryanmkeane said:
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will be awesome. I imagine they will put Lawrence at the 1 and 3 and change him around a bunch. Him and Hill can really push the pocket, and Tomlinson can be the anchor.

Love this pick.


Now imagine Josh Allen and Lorenzo Carter begins them ... sigh
gotham  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2019 11:27 am : link
agree but we need to move on.
For those who live in the Philly area  
SJGiant : 4/26/2019 1:27 pm : link
Ray Didinger, a well known sports writer and evaluator of NFL talent, came on one of the WIP shows and talked about his best player that might fall near the Eagles last Wednesday. He talks about it within the first ten minutes of this podcast (I didn't listen past the first ten minutes. Only so much Philly talk I can take). I feel very good about this pick.
Ray Didinger about Dexter Lawrence - ( New Window )
As DG would say, Rome wasn't built in a Day  
Simms11 : 4/26/2019 2:41 pm : link
but clearly you have to build up the lines before you can build the rest of the team around them. DG has always ensured that the lines were strong. This was an absolute necessity and DLaw will be an anchor in the middle of the defense. That will be a welcome sight.

Not sure we can add to starting LBer corps right now, but we need at least one more starting-caliber LBer. That level of the team is somewhat susceptible and lacking still IMO.
This can be Game-changer,  
Nine-Tails : 4/26/2019 2:59 pm : link
I was ignorant before in just assigning him a 2 down label. This man can change the way we view nose tackles. Never saw an athlete at his size move like him, he moves like Rashaan Gary off the snap and has violent hands. He will be able to play each position on the d line.

Anyone who, like me, has the notion that hes a 2 down lineman, please dig deeper and watch him.
I'm still stuck on  
idiotsavant : 4/26/2019 3:12 pm : link
Oliver/Lawrence\Hill



Sheeeesh. I mean....ooosh...I mean jeeesus.
The foundation  
Nine-Tails : 4/26/2019 3:13 pm : link
Of the defense, he might become what makes it go. This might be a similar situation as Aaron Donald but in the reverse sense. People thought Donald was too small and wont hold up and here with Lawrence assume he is just a nose tackle that cant rush the passer.
RE: I'm still stuck on  
Nine-Tails : 4/26/2019 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14411817 idiotsavant said:
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Oliver/Lawrence\Hill



Sheeeesh. I mean....ooosh...I mean jeeesus.


I feel it man, I was mentally prepared for Josh Allen, the total package. But hey, if Jones fails, DG is gone and if not then hey we hit a home run.
But 9  
idiotsavant : 4/26/2019 3:18 pm : link
It's obviously Mara.

The Getts alone grabs a DT, DE or the OT at 6.

Dint forget, who let Jerry do his thing for ten years?
RE: But 9  
Nine-Tails : 4/26/2019 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14411861 idiotsavant said:
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It's obviously Mara.

The Getts alone grabs a DT, DE or the OT at 6.

Dint forget, who let Jerry do his thing for ten years?


I agree with that, the owners can't fire themselves, especially with Chris Mara with an active role.

They haven't been able to adapt and are fixated on the Giants way.
Watched a lot of him today  
Kyle in NY : 4/26/2019 3:35 pm : link
and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.

There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.

Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Watched a lot of him today  
Nine-Tails : 4/26/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14411957 Kyle in NY said:
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and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.

There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.

Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )


Exactly, I was amazed when I watched him.top 5 athlete in the whole draft.

The 2 down thing is just a label because of his size which many, including I wrongly believed.
RE: RE: Watched a lot of him today  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14411986 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14411957 Kyle in NY said:


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and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.

There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.

Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )



Exactly, I was amazed when I watched him.top 5 athlete in the whole draft.

The 2 down thing is just a label because of his size which many, including I wrongly believed.


Also because Clemson was just so stacked on the DL that they would sub him out even when not needed just because they could.
This  
Jerry in DC : 4/26/2019 4:06 pm : link
is actually a guy who could be useful once we are free of Gettleman. This year+ has been a comical waste of resources but this guy might help the next regime.
So..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/26/2019 4:28 pm : link
the guy the useless GM picked might shine when that useless GM is gone?

Awesome fucking logic.
Q Williams rana 4.87 forty at 303  
bc4life : 4/26/2019 4:47 pm : link
Lawrence ran a 5,03 at 345 pounds and pulled a hamstring during the run. I'm not sure people realize how good of an athlete he is.
Lawrence  
Jay on the Island : 4/26/2019 5:12 pm : link
Is going to be similar to Snacks Harrison but with more pass rush ability and without the attitude. He is going to be a fan favorite immediately and he will help transform the defensive front.

Dalvin Tomlinson now goes back to his DE spot where he is a better fit. I hope the Giants add more depth on day 3 but I look forward to seeing how the young DL performs this season.
RE: So..  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14412186 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the guy the useless GM picked might shine when that useless GM is gone?

Awesome fucking logic.


This place never ceases to astound me.

Eric said that there was a poster last night who said that even if Daniel Jones becomes a HoF QB, it was still the wrong pick.

Alright...
RE: Lawrence  
DonnieD89 : 4/26/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14412372 Jay on the Island said:
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Is going to be similar to Snacks Harrison but with more pass rush ability and without the attitude. He is going to be a fan favorite immediately and he will help transform the defensive front.

Dalvin Tomlinson now goes back to his DE spot where he is a better fit. I hope the Giants add more depth on day 3 but I look forward to seeing how the young DL performs this season.


I think he is going to be the major piece of the defense for a long time. I also think the Giants should get a back up NT.
If you go through Lawrence's writes, at least one compared him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2019 5:36 pm : link
to Linval Joseph.
RE: If you go through Lawrence's writes, at least one compared him  
DonnieD89 : 4/26/2019 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14412439 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to Linval Joseph.


That's an endorsing comparison. Freaking Reese let him go.
i loved the 2 defence picks in particular  
msh : 4/26/2019 5:56 pm : link
lawrence is the engine that ran that defence and he will make the giants front infinitely better the can now kick tomlinson outside and further improve the passrush with hill,lawrence and tomlinson upfront they will be harder to run or pass on

i dont think many realised just how big a need NT and CB where on this team and im glad DG recognised it and fixed it
RE: RE: So..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/26/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14412421 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14412186 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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the guy the useless GM picked might shine when that useless GM is gone?

Awesome fucking logic.



This place never ceases to astound me.

Eric said that there was a poster last night who said that even if Daniel Jones becomes a HoF QB, it was still the wrong pick.

Alright...


Yep.

There was also a post last nigh that called Jones a retard and several posts that said Gettleman runs the draft like a fascist. A lot of fucking morons here.
RE: If you go through Lawrence's writes, at least one compared him  
ep in md : 4/27/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14412439 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to Linval Joseph.


I would wager he will deliver greater impact than Linval Joeseph, a player I also like.
I think with Lawrence  
bc4life : 4/27/2019 3:05 pm : link
the Giants have the ability to take control of the line of scrimmage.
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