Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
Odd take given his cost and age/injuries. Do you want snacks for 8-10 games for 1 year or a younger version of Snacks (hopefully) who can rush the passer better for the next 5?
but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
My first thought as well. Could've just kept Snacks. But since he didn't, this pick fills an obvious need. Giants need to be able to stop the run. This guy will help.
Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Mind numbing.
Like I said before, the whole line jtgiants was pushing about the Giants want to win now was complete and utter bullshit. Not his fault as its what he heard but, it was bullshit nonetheless.
Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations
Dexter Lawrence, just what the Giants needed another fatty defense Lineman to stop the run?! Why Because giants don't believe in Linebackers?! No pass rush next year I guess??! The Giants gave up on Odell & two high draft choices for these 2 players??!! lol..
but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasnt anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
This kid is a monster! I just wish DG would've used the 1st pick on Allen, but Dexter Lawrence is gonna be a nightmare for the other teams in the NFC East!
If you go to the pinned mock draft thread, I submitted the last mock before it was un pinned. Time was 10:26 am. I had Jones at 6 and Lawerence at 17...
but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Thanks for the info., but what is a near non-factor? So with some teams it was a factor?
Won't be good next year, which should be expected. Defense lacks pass rush, took a 2 down nose tackle, also 4 DG drafted in past three drafts. Linebackers still suck, corner and safety depth is poor. Also, passed on jawaan Taylor and Dillard, so offense isn't in great shape either. Man I'm depressed right now.
Won't be good next year, which should be expected. Defense lacks pass rush, took a 2 down nose tackle, also 4 DG drafted in past three drafts. Linebackers still suck, corner and safety depth is poor. Also, passed on jawaan Taylor and Dillard, so offense isn't in great shape either. Man I'm depressed right now.
You arent filling all of those positions with one pick
RE: RE: Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
No joke... this draft is deep in WR, RT, Safeties, CBs, and MLB... Even some good ER, but we do have Markus Golden and Carter.
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
RE: RE: RE: So, in a first round loaded with pass rushers
I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
Jesus, enough of the fucking whining.
Fucking Pathetic!
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
I don't like it at all. For a Team that needing pass rush in the worse way, this did not help. Guess what, this team is in need of CB too! So not having a pass rush makes things worse! Just a horrible start to the draft imo..
Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
I remember Lawrence had a rushing TD against Louisville (I mentioned that earlier)
Yes, they both came in frequently as part of the elephant goalline package. Dexter mainly blocked while Christian sometimes carried the ball (or even caught a TE pass). Swinney gave Dexter the opportunity in the Louisville game.
Of the two, Christian is more likely to become the next Refrigerator from Clemson.
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Yes,thank you.
Perspective - would there be all this teeth gnashing
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
Brian Baldinger maintained that Lawrence could play three downs.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
You want some fatso? WTF do you contribute here? WTF does Anakim contribute here? Add something you fucking wad of shit or stfu.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Could've just kept Snacks...but alright
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
You want some fatso? WTF do you contribute here? WTF does Anakim contribute here? Add something you fucking wad of shit or stfu.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
You seem like a really stable, credible person!
I can run laps around you football wise you know nothing. Stable? Nah, credible, fuck yes. You know fucking shit too as does most of the rabble here. Oh no TTH and Anakim don't like me!!!! What will I do with my life? Go on and ignore you fucking know nothings like I have for 20 years. Please offer anything worthwhile, be different than you have been for years...or don't and be a fucking mook who knows nothing.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Shocking that youre so unbelievably pathetic that you have to stoop to being a keyboard warrior, pounding your chest about how awesome you are.
Great pick Snacks knees are about shot .
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We have our NT .
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think hes good or very good. Some dont love jones. Some do love jones. Thats not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isnt any good. Giants take him and you cant let it go when discussing other later picks.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Everyone hated the Flowers pick and EVERYONE was right. Allen was a no brainer that fell in our laps at a position of need. At 6 Jones needs to be an All Pro QB and our 2nd pick made zero sense as well. We need a LB, WR, and DE and we draft a DT. What??
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
RE: Perspective - would there be all this teeth gnashing
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
DL was a major need? Interior lineman? Really? More than an edge rusher? Or a LB, or a RT? I'm gonna go ahead and respectively disagree.
THe Giants didn't really have a true NT. I firmly believe that Tomlinson's best position is at the 3 technique. I may be in a minority there, but I don't see him as a space eating double team busting NT. He is better when he can penetrate and disrupt. That said, he was serviceable at NT.
What I don't get is DGs fascination at upgrading positions where we have a player, even if they are not ideal. While we continue to ignore positions where we have nothing.
Edge, C, RT, LB, DE, even outside WR. While we picked a good CB in the trade-up, we need more than 1 CB.
We upgraded to a very nice RG, when we could have just resigned the guy we had. Not ideal, but getting a C and/or RT would have a greater impact. Now we upgraded the NT, but could have lived with DT. DE and ER would have a greater impact. Especially when it comes to the trenches, you are only as good as your weakest link...
Was a sprint to podium guy for the giants. A guy that will set the tone for everyone behind him - and a guy graded very highly - for the giants this is value and addresses a need. He is a stud
...would've liked him at 6. Because I fucking HATE a soft interior D. I was raised on Giant D's that rarely gave up 100yds to a back and ruled in short yardage.
This kid is a nightmare. Btw, will improve the linebackers behind him - ++
Was a sprint to podium guy for the giants. A guy that will set the tone for everyone behind him - and a guy graded very highly - for the giants this is value and addresses a need. He is a stud
is a great pick. I thought the Giants might trade down to get extra day two picks, but I'm perfectly fine taking Lawrence at #17. Tremendous run stuffer with some pass rush ability.
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
Lawrence was one of my main targets for the Dline.. He will free up the backers behind him and take pressure off the DE's some as he will need to be double teamed. He is a force and gives us much needed size up the middle.
I love Lawrence and he is going to be a stud NT for the Giants for a long time. This also allows Tomlinson to go back to DE where I feel he is a better fit. I didn't think he played well enough at NT last season after the Snacks trade. I still hope they add another NT or DE on day 3 for depth.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
will be awesome. I imagine they will put Lawrence at the 1 and 3 and change him around a bunch. Him and Hill can really push the pocket, and Tomlinson can be the anchor.
were 20th against the run. It's not like pass rush was the only concern. And he can push the pocket.
I had NT and C as my biggest draft 'wants'.
And not a 'body' at NT, I wanted a replacement for Snacks. Because Run D begins with a solid interior D-Line. Mentioned before, great NT's make linebackers better, but the reverse isn't true.
Watch Ogletree and Goodson now flourish as Lawrence effectively parks a fucking semi in front of them.
I think this defense is actually decent right now. D-Line and Backfield set - pass rush is now the only concern.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
We all can pretty much take the next couple of rounds off.
will be awesome. I imagine they will put Lawrence at the 1 and 3 and change him around a bunch. Him and Hill can really push the pocket, and Tomlinson can be the anchor.
Love this pick.
Now imagine Josh Allen and Lorenzo Carter begins them ... sigh
Ray Didinger, a well known sports writer and evaluator of NFL talent, came on one of the WIP shows and talked about his best player that might fall near the Eagles last Wednesday. He talks about it within the first ten minutes of this podcast (I didn't listen past the first ten minutes. Only so much Philly talk I can take). I feel very good about this pick. Ray Didinger about Dexter Lawrence - ( New Window )
but clearly you have to build up the lines before you can build the rest of the team around them. DG has always ensured that the lines were strong. This was an absolute necessity and DLaw will be an anchor in the middle of the defense. That will be a welcome sight.
Not sure we can add to starting LBer corps right now, but we need at least one more starting-caliber LBer. That level of the team is somewhat susceptible and lacking still IMO.
I was ignorant before in just assigning him a 2 down label. This man can change the way we view nose tackles. Never saw an athlete at his size move like him, he moves like Rashaan Gary off the snap and has violent hands. He will be able to play each position on the d line.
Anyone who, like me, has the notion that hes a 2 down lineman, please dig deeper and watch him.
Of the defense, he might become what makes it go. This might be a similar situation as Aaron Donald but in the reverse sense. People thought Donald was too small and wont hold up and here with Lawrence assume he is just a nose tackle that cant rush the passer.
and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.
There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.
Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )
and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.
There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.
Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )
Exactly, I was amazed when I watched him.top 5 athlete in the whole draft.
The 2 down thing is just a label because of his size which many, including I wrongly believed.
and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.
There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.
Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )
Exactly, I was amazed when I watched him.top 5 athlete in the whole draft.
The 2 down thing is just a label because of his size which many, including I wrongly believed.
Also because Clemson was just so stacked on the DL that they would sub him out even when not needed just because they could.
is actually a guy who could be useful once we are free of Gettleman. This year+ has been a comical waste of resources but this guy might help the next regime.
Is going to be similar to Snacks Harrison but with more pass rush ability and without the attitude. He is going to be a fan favorite immediately and he will help transform the defensive front.
Dalvin Tomlinson now goes back to his DE spot where he is a better fit. I hope the Giants add more depth on day 3 but I look forward to seeing how the young DL performs this season.
Is going to be similar to Snacks Harrison but with more pass rush ability and without the attitude. He is going to be a fan favorite immediately and he will help transform the defensive front.
Dalvin Tomlinson now goes back to his DE spot where he is a better fit. I hope the Giants add more depth on day 3 but I look forward to seeing how the young DL performs this season.
I think he is going to be the major piece of the defense for a long time. I also think the Giants should get a back up NT.
If you go through Lawrence's writes, at least one compared him
lawrence is the engine that ran that defence and he will make the giants front infinitely better the can now kick tomlinson outside and further improve the passrush with hill,lawrence and tomlinson upfront they will be harder to run or pass on
i dont think many realised just how big a need NT and CB where on this team and im glad DG recognised it and fixed it
the guy the useless GM picked might shine when that useless GM is gone?
Awesome fucking logic.
This place never ceases to astound me.
Eric said that there was a poster last night who said that even if Daniel Jones becomes a HoF QB, it was still the wrong pick.
Alright...
Yep.
There was also a post last nigh that called Jones a retard and several posts that said Gettleman runs the draft like a fascist. A lot of fucking morons here.
RE: If you go through Lawrence's writes, at least one compared him
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
I can get behind this...
I have no idea, but that is only 1/3rd of what we got for OBJ
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Because Josh Rosen is a bust and a loser?
Exactly what I wanted them to do there.
Nice pick.
Odd take given his cost and age/injuries. Do you want snacks for 8-10 games for 1 year or a younger version of Snacks (hopefully) who can rush the passer better for the next 5?
He also had a fat guy TD against Louisville, I believe
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Giants only want WASPs at QB
If Jones is who I think he is, we might have a shot.
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
My first thought as well. Could've just kept Snacks. But since he didn't, this pick fills an obvious need. Giants need to be able to stop the run. This guy will help.
Mind numbing.
Like I said before, the whole line jtgiants was pushing about the Giants want to win now was complete and utter bullshit. Not his fault as its what he heard but, it was bullshit nonetheless.
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Giants only want WASPs at QB
Well I believe Eli is Catholic
LOL... [sob]
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
Some edge players:
Jaylon Ferguson, Louisiana Tech (2)
Joe Jackson, Miami (2/3).
Jalen Jelks, Oregon (4)
Maybe even Montez Sweat, Mississippi State, in round 2.
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Daniel Jones
This right here...
2: Dexter Lawrence Clemson 64/342
Grade: 85
Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasnt anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET
So we shouldnt worry that he was suspended for using steroids?
I like the pick but, as I said before, hopefully the roids arent what made him so good.
Not sure what the plan is for rushing the qb but we still have plenty of time to deal with that I suppose.
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
Hill - Lawrence - Tomlinson
Are you kidding? A whole bunch of people were calling for Lawrence at #17, including me.
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Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
Be ready for some C+ grades tho
Bingo
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Run the football. Stop the run.
Daniel Jones
Yes, we drafted a QB too. Because the one we have is 38 years old and declining.
Maybe not who you wanted.
I didn't like him as much as some other QB's either. But, I'm pretty sure the QB is an important part of the football equation.
Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
Oh.... Wait.
Pick 6. Mara
Pick 17. The Getts
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Run the football. Stop the run.
Daniel Jones
Yes, we drafted a QB too. Because the one we have is 38 years old and declining.
Maybe not who you wanted.
I didn't like him as much as some other QB's either. But, I'm pretty sure the QB is an important part of the football equation.
Btw and fwiw? Gil Brandts top 150 had Jones ranked 17th and Lawrence 24th
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Absolutely not.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
which one?
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Thanks for the info., but what is a near non-factor? So with some teams it was a factor?
You arent filling all of those positions with one pick
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Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
I remember Lawrence had a rushing TD against Louisville (I mentioned that earlier)
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Hell no. Ja dil Peppers, Lawrence and number 95 is no way shape or form worth Beckham.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
No joke... this draft is deep in WR, RT, Safeties, CBs, and MLB... Even some good ER, but we do have Markus Golden and Carter.
Oh.... Wait.
Pick 6. Mara
Pick 17. The Getts
I am tired of all these excuses for that doofus, Dave Gettleman.😤😤😤
Be ready for some C+ grades tho
Truest statement spoken tonight
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Because Josh Rosen is a bust and a loser?
Better to remain silent and let people think you are a fool than to write a comment like this and remove all doubt.
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Im glad the Mannings like Dexter Lawrence, I wonder who they like for tomorrow.
Or
Hill/Laurence/Tomlinson (J. Allen)
HMF
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So the Giants ranked Lawrence over Oliver and Simmons, who people have them ranked higher. Interesting.
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
Jesus, enough of the fucking whining.
Fucking Pathetic!
He also had a fat guy TD against Louisville, I believe
Dude stop.
But I'm guessing that both could've been had with a trade down, and now we're still staring at a huge gap between 37 and 95.
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
But hey, the Giants want to win NOW!
What a joke.
People are just pissed off about Jones.
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like he did at Clemson.
Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
I remember Lawrence had a rushing TD against Louisville (I mentioned that earlier)
Yes, they both came in frequently as part of the elephant goalline package. Dexter mainly blocked while Christian sometimes carried the ball (or even caught a TE pass). Swinney gave Dexter the opportunity in the Louisville game.
Of the two, Christian is more likely to become the next Refrigerator from Clemson.
It was the clear opportunity to have -both_ on the field at the same time along with Hill or Tomlison
He set the school record for sacks as a freshman just an FYI
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He set the school record for sacks as a freshman just an FYI
Stop making sense... this is panic time.
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. He gave Daniel Jones quite a shellacking when Clemson played Duke.
He also had a fat guy TD against Louisville, I believe
Dude stop.
Stop what?
People are just pissed off about Jones.
When youre right, youre right.
Allen and anyone for me... How do you pass on Allen.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
It was the clear opportunity to have -both_ on the field at the same time along with Hill or Tomlison
You are missing the point.
The Giants needed a QB and picked one.
And there it was, Wilkins,Oliver,Allen and Lawrence, take your picks.
Not counting Simmons and Sweat.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Yes,thank you.
Folks are now quibbling about the order even though some scouts thought Jones may be under-rated on the media draft boards.
I trust professional scouts (and GMs) more than the Mel Kiper clones.
In a better QB year the QB we drafted might have gone 45.
It's about seeing opportunity.
If you stopped shaking your fucking head constantly, your eyes might be able to focus on that.
No. It's Peppers, Lawrence, and we'll see at #95.
That's 2 key players added to your defense so far.
The DL is going to be really good.
Tomlinson now goes back to end.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
You seem like a really stable, credible person!
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
Gotta love the keyboard muscles.
You want some fatso? WTF do you contribute here? WTF does Anakim contribute here? Add something you fucking wad of shit or stfu.
Lmao. Youre so pathetic its not even funny.
Tomlinson now goes back to end.
Because DG openly stated that he was better at Nose. We arent pulling this out of our asses, Eric. Lol
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
You sure you want to say that to me? 100% sure? I'll sally you in person and we'll see what you have the balls to say to my face you little fucking twat. You think I don't know what this team is short on you little failure? Pick a new career you fuckhead, you suck at this one and whatever you thought was your previous one.
You seem like a really stable, credible person!
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I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
Gettleman clearly lies about A LOT of things.
A guy like Lawrence can help Tomlinson, as well as our LB's. He's a force multiplier.
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Im Joey! I can talk tough on the internets!
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Shocking that youre so unbelievably pathetic that you have to stoop to being a keyboard warrior, pounding your chest about how awesome you are.
Get a fucking life dude.
Two first round picks and no pass rusher and no OL. Worst GM in football
JOEY TOUGH! JOEY SMASH!*
*(anonymous people on the internet)
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
I wish you were the GM.
Be a fucking adult for once
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We have our NT .
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
10/10
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Because that would make sense...
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last years draft.
Everyone hated the Flowers pick and EVERYONE was right. Allen was a no brainer that fell in our laps at a position of need. At 6 Jones needs to be an All Pro QB and our 2nd pick made zero sense as well. We need a LB, WR, and DE and we draft a DT. What??
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
Folks are now quibbling about the order even though some scouts thought Jones may be under-rated on the media draft boards.
I trust professional scouts (and GMs) more than the Mel Kiper clones.
Not when you have lived with picks like Ron Dayne and Ereck Flowers.
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Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
DL was a major need? Interior lineman? Really? More than an edge rusher? Or a LB, or a RT? I'm gonna go ahead and respectively disagree.
What I don't get is DGs fascination at upgrading positions where we have a player, even if they are not ideal. While we continue to ignore positions where we have nothing.
Edge, C, RT, LB, DE, even outside WR. While we picked a good CB in the trade-up, we need more than 1 CB.
We upgraded to a very nice RG, when we could have just resigned the guy we had. Not ideal, but getting a C and/or RT would have a greater impact. Now we upgraded the NT, but could have lived with DT. DE and ER would have a greater impact. Especially when it comes to the trenches, you are only as good as your weakest link...
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Joey wants to rant about how important locker room culture is while being toxic waste to the culture here.
JOEY TOUGH! JOEY SMASH!*
*(anonymous people on the internet)
Dude, that was funny......
This kid is a nightmare. Btw, will improve the linebackers behind him - ++
+1
I was for trading down a bit and taking Vea last year in the top 10, and we got someone equivalent in the mid 1st.
DG like a lot of us did not enjoy seeing this team pushed around. This kid helps to stop that.
I welcome such a addition and cant wait to see this team getting tough again.
I wonder too. I don't think so, but could he be traded, and what would he bring?
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Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
Lawrence was one of my main targets for the Dline.. He will free up the backers behind him and take pressure off the DE's some as he will need to be double teamed. He is a force and gives us much needed size up the middle.
His selection makes D. Tomlinson and BJ Hill position's better. His selection makes the LBs and safety playing closer to the line better.
A very good pick at 17 that I would have given consideration to at 6.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
Love this pick.
And not a 'body' at NT, I wanted a replacement for Snacks. Because Run D begins with a solid interior D-Line. Mentioned before, great NT's make linebackers better, but the reverse isn't true.
Watch Ogletree and Goodson now flourish as Lawrence effectively parks a fucking semi in front of them.
I think this defense is actually decent right now. D-Line and Backfield set - pass rush is now the only concern.
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Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
We all can pretty much take the next couple of rounds off.
I am giddy at thought of him wearing the jersey and watching him play.
Mobile version of Eli more likely
Love this pick.
Now imagine Josh Allen and Lorenzo Carter begins them ... sigh
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Not sure we can add to starting LBer corps right now, but we need at least one more starting-caliber LBer. That level of the team is somewhat susceptible and lacking still IMO.
Anyone who, like me, has the notion that hes a 2 down lineman, please dig deeper and watch him.
Sheeeesh. I mean....ooosh...I mean jeeesus.
Sheeeesh. I mean....ooosh...I mean jeeesus.
I feel it man, I was mentally prepared for Josh Allen, the total package. But hey, if Jones fails, DG is gone and if not then hey we hit a home run.
The Getts alone grabs a DT, DE or the OT at 6.
Dint forget, who let Jerry do his thing for ten years?
The Getts alone grabs a DT, DE or the OT at 6.
Dint forget, who let Jerry do his thing for ten years?
I agree with that, the owners can't fire themselves, especially with Chris Mara with an active role.
They haven't been able to adapt and are fixated on the Giants way.
There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.
Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30
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There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.
Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )
Exactly, I was amazed when I watched him.top 5 athlete in the whole draft.
The 2 down thing is just a label because of his size which many, including I wrongly believed.
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and this pick has me absolutely thrilled. The way this kid can move at his size is rare indeed. And I don't think he's just slated to be a two down run stuffer like I'm seeing a lot of people saying questioning the value of the pick. You can't tell me with that combination of power and quickness that there isn't untapped pass rush potential here. He did have 6 sacks as a freshman.
There's so much to work with here. I do wish we could have paired this pick with one of the edge rushers, but Lawrence on his own is enough to be excited about.
Watch what he does to the guard in the video at 3:08 or the spin move at 3:30 Link - ( New Window )
Exactly, I was amazed when I watched him.top 5 athlete in the whole draft.
The 2 down thing is just a label because of his size which many, including I wrongly believed.
Also because Clemson was just so stacked on the DL that they would sub him out even when not needed just because they could.
Awesome fucking logic.
Dalvin Tomlinson now goes back to his DE spot where he is a better fit. I hope the Giants add more depth on day 3 but I look forward to seeing how the young DL performs this season.
Awesome fucking logic.
This place never ceases to astound me.
Eric said that there was a poster last night who said that even if Daniel Jones becomes a HoF QB, it was still the wrong pick.
Alright...
Dalvin Tomlinson now goes back to his DE spot where he is a better fit. I hope the Giants add more depth on day 3 but I look forward to seeing how the young DL performs this season.
I think he is going to be the major piece of the defense for a long time. I also think the Giants should get a back up NT.
That's an endorsing comparison. Freaking Reese let him go.
i dont think many realised just how big a need NT and CB where on this team and im glad DG recognised it and fixed it
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the guy the useless GM picked might shine when that useless GM is gone?
Awesome fucking logic.
This place never ceases to astound me.
Eric said that there was a poster last night who said that even if Daniel Jones becomes a HoF QB, it was still the wrong pick.
Alright...
Yep.
There was also a post last nigh that called Jones a retard and several posts that said Gettleman runs the draft like a fascist. A lot of fucking morons here.
I would wager he will deliver greater impact than Linval Joeseph, a player I also like.