*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasnt anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
This kid is a monster! I just wish DG would've used the 1st pick on Allen, but Dexter Lawrence is gonna be a nightmare for the other teams in the NFC East!
If you go to the pinned mock draft thread, I submitted the last mock before it was un pinned. Time was 10:26 am. I had Jones at 6 and Lawerence at 17...
but the Giants still have zero pass rush. He's not an awful pass rusher, but he's not great by any means either. And I'm not sure he's a 3 down player stamina wise.
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Thanks for the info., but what is a near non-factor? So with some teams it was a factor?
Won't be good next year, which should be expected. Defense lacks pass rush, took a 2 down nose tackle, also 4 DG drafted in past three drafts. Linebackers still suck, corner and safety depth is poor. Also, passed on jawaan Taylor and Dillard, so offense isn't in great shape either. Man I'm depressed right now.
Won't be good next year, which should be expected. Defense lacks pass rush, took a 2 down nose tackle, also 4 DG drafted in past three drafts. Linebackers still suck, corner and safety depth is poor. Also, passed on jawaan Taylor and Dillard, so offense isn't in great shape either. Man I'm depressed right now.
You arent filling all of those positions with one pick
RE: RE: Are we running Dexter Lawrence as a RB in goal line situations
Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
No joke... this draft is deep in WR, RT, Safeties, CBs, and MLB... Even some good ER, but we do have Markus Golden and Carter.
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So the Giants ranked Lawrence over Oliver and Simmons, who people have them ranked higher. Interesting.
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
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I'm not upset that you two morons disagree with this draft. Two fuckheads who don't like what a professional GM does...oh gee, I'm upset. You two don't know fucking shit and never have.
Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
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This right here...
2: Dexter Lawrence Clemson 64/342
Grade: 85
Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasnt anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.
*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, its Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.
NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET
So we shouldnt worry that he was suspended for using steroids?
I like the pick but, as I said before, hopefully the roids arent what made him so good.
Not sure what the plan is for rushing the qb but we still have plenty of time to deal with that I suppose.
Defensive end is a total black hole right now. That has to change.
Hill - Lawrence - Tomlinson
Are you kidding? A whole bunch of people were calling for Lawrence at #17, including me.
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Something they woefully lack, the Giants manage not to get any of them and instead pick a mediocre QB and a decent run stuffing NT. Awesome stuff.
Exactly. I don't even mind the Lawrence pick, but still these picks both seem to just scream mediocrity to me. Like they're just aiming for mediocrity, not greatness (even if that comes with risks). I think DG will be content to see the Giants go .500 for the next 5 seasons, but at least everyone in the locker room will be nice to each other and the "culture" will be good, so he can just barely keep his job. This just feels like the 90s all over again somehow.
Be ready for some C+ grades tho
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Run the football. Stop the run.
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Yes, we drafted a QB too. Because the one we have is 38 years old and declining.
Maybe not who you wanted.
I didn't like him as much as some other QB's either. But, I'm pretty sure the QB is an important part of the football equation.
Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
Oh.... Wait.
Pick 6. Mara
Pick 17. The Getts
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Run the football. Stop the run.
Daniel Jones
Yes, we drafted a QB too. Because the one we have is 38 years old and declining.
Maybe not who you wanted.
I didn't like him as much as some other QB's either. But, I'm pretty sure the QB is an important part of the football equation.
Btw and fwiw? Gil Brandts top 150 had Jones ranked 17th and Lawrence 24th
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Absolutely not.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
which one?
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b.s. is just that. How do you pick a player that was suspended for his teams most important games if youre preaching culture?
He took an over the counter workout supplement that nobody would ever think is illegal. The suspension was a near-non factor in the character evaluation
Thanks for the info., but what is a near non-factor? So with some teams it was a factor?
You arent filling all of those positions with one pick
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like he did at Clemson.
Only if we also had his backfield mate, Wilkens who actually carried the ball and caught TE passes :)
I remember Lawrence had a rushing TD against Louisville (I mentioned that earlier)
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Hell no. Ja dil Peppers, Lawrence and number 95 is no way shape or form worth Beckham.
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Decent pick. A "B" pick. He's a NT who is a bit of a freak himself.
So a bad team keeping a 30 year old NT with bad knees who wants more $ and isn't competing now is a better idea than drafting a cheap replacement? And you want to be a professional something or other?
This team isn't short on needs, Sally. We need a big WR, a RT, an ER, an ILB, a FS and a CB.
No joke... this draft is deep in WR, RT, Safeties, CBs, and MLB... Even some good ER, but we do have Markus Golden and Carter.
Oh.... Wait.
Pick 6. Mara
Pick 17. The Getts
I am tired of all these excuses for that doofus, Dave Gettleman.😤😤😤
Be ready for some C+ grades tho
Truest statement spoken tonight
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Why didn't we double up on DL with Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence and trade #37 for Rosen?
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Because Josh Rosen is a bust and a loser?
Better to remain silent and let people think you are a fool than to write a comment like this and remove all doubt.
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Im glad the Mannings like Dexter Lawrence, I wonder who they like for tomorrow.
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Hill/Laurence/Tomlinson (J. Allen)
HMF
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So the Giants ranked Lawrence over Oliver and Simmons, who people have them ranked higher. Interesting.
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What's he going to say when asked the question about his new teammate? He sucks?
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So neither of the NYG 1st RD picks will be on the field on 3rd down this Year?? Bartender!!! #TimeForABeer
Jerry Reese was a professional GM, and yet I'm pretty sure you've criticised him a time or two, haven't you?