Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Shocking that you’re so unbelievably pathetic that you have to stoop to being a keyboard warrior, pounding your chest about how awesome you are.
Great pick Snacks knees are about shot .
Bluesbreaker : 10:19 pm : link : reply
We have our NT .
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think he’s good or very good. Some don’t love jones. Some do love jones. That’s not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isn’t any good. Giants take him and you can’t let it go when discussing other later picks.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last year’s draft.
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
Some of you are absolutely letting the Jones pick at six cloud your whole opinion or take on everything going forward. All because of a false media driven narrative. Talkies think jones is average. Plenty of real life scouts think he’s good or very good. Some don’t love jones. Some do love jones. That’s not enough for some of you who after doing your own amature your scouting tour feel jones isn’t any good. Giants take him and you can’t let it go when discussing other later picks.
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last year’s draft.
Everyone hated the Flowers pick and EVERYONE was right. Allen was a no brainer that fell in our laps at a position of need. At 6 Jones needs to be an All Pro QB and our 2nd pick made zero sense as well. We need a LB, WR, and DE and we draft a DT. What??
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
RE: Perspective - would there be all this teeth gnashing Â
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
DL was a major need? Interior lineman? Really? More than an edge rusher? Or a LB, or a RT? I'm gonna go ahead and respectively disagree.
THe Giants didn't really have a true NT. I firmly believe that Tomlinson's best position is at the 3 technique. I may be in a minority there, but I don't see him as a space eating double team busting NT. He is better when he can penetrate and disrupt. That said, he was serviceable at NT.
What I don't get is DGs fascination at upgrading positions where we have a player, even if they are not ideal. While we continue to ignore positions where we have nothing.
Edge, C, RT, LB, DE, even outside WR. While we picked a good CB in the trade-up, we need more than 1 CB.
We upgraded to a very nice RG, when we could have just resigned the guy we had. Not ideal, but getting a C and/or RT would have a greater impact. Now we upgraded the NT, but could have lived with DT. DE and ER would have a greater impact. Especially when it comes to the trenches, you are only as good as your weakest link...
Was a sprint to podium guy for the giants. A guy that will set the tone for everyone behind him - and a guy graded very highly - for the giants this is value and addresses a need. He is a stud
...would've liked him at 6. Because I fucking HATE a soft interior D. I was raised on Giant D's that rarely gave up 100yds to a back and ruled in short yardage.
This kid is a nightmare. Btw, will improve the linebackers behind him - ++
Was a sprint to podium guy for the giants. A guy that will set the tone for everyone behind him - and a guy graded very highly - for the giants this is value and addresses a need. He is a stud
is a great pick. I thought the Giants might trade down to get extra day two picks, but I'm perfectly fine taking Lawrence at #17. Tremendous run stuffer with some pass rush ability.
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
Lawrence was one of my main targets for the Dline.. He will free up the backers behind him and take pressure off the DE's some as he will need to be double teamed. He is a force and gives us much needed size up the middle.
I love Lawrence and he is going to be a stud NT for the Giants for a long time. This also allows Tomlinson to go back to DE where I feel he is a better fit. I didn't think he played well enough at NT last season after the Snacks trade. I still hope they add another NT or DE on day 3 for depth.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
will be awesome. I imagine they will put Lawrence at the 1 and 3 and change him around a bunch. Him and Hill can really push the pocket, and Tomlinson can be the anchor.
were 20th against the run. It's not like pass rush was the only concern. And he can push the pocket.
I had NT and C as my biggest draft 'wants'.
And not a 'body' at NT, I wanted a replacement for Snacks. Because Run D begins with a solid interior D-Line. Mentioned before, great NT's make linebackers better, but the reverse isn't true.
Watch Ogletree and Goodson now flourish as Lawrence effectively parks a fucking semi in front of them.
I think this defense is actually decent right now. D-Line and Backfield set - pass rush is now the only concern.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
We all can pretty much take the next couple of rounds off.
will be awesome. I imagine they will put Lawrence at the 1 and 3 and change him around a bunch. Him and Hill can really push the pocket, and Tomlinson can be the anchor.
Love this pick.
Now imagine Josh Allen and Lorenzo Carter begins them ... sigh
Ray Didinger, a well known sports writer and evaluator of NFL talent, came on one of the WIP shows and talked about his best player that might fall near the Eagles last Wednesday. He talks about it within the first ten minutes of this podcast (I didn't listen past the first ten minutes. Only so much Philly talk I can take). I feel very good about this pick. Ray Didinger about Dexter Lawrence - ( New Window )
but clearly you have to build up the lines before you can build the rest of the team around them. DG has always ensured that the lines were strong. This was an absolute necessity and DLaw will be an anchor in the middle of the defense. That will be a welcome sight.
Not sure we can add to starting LBer corps right now, but we need at least one more starting-caliber LBer. That level of the team is somewhat susceptible and lacking still IMO.
I was ignorant before in just assigning him a 2 down label. This man can change the way we view nose tackles. Never saw an athlete at his size move like him, he moves like Rashaan Gary off the snap and has violent hands. He will be able to play each position on the d line.
Anyone who, like me, has the notion that hes a 2 down lineman, please dig deeper and watch him.
Of the defense, he might become what makes it go. This might be a similar situation as Aaron Donald but in the reverse sense. People thought Donald was too small and wont hold up and here with Lawrence assume he is just a nose tackle that cant rush the passer.
Quote:
I’m Joey! I can talk tough on the internets!
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Shocking that you’re so unbelievably pathetic that you have to stoop to being a keyboard warrior, pounding your chest about how awesome you are.
Get a fucking life dude.
Two first round picks and no pass rusher and no OL. Worst GM in football
JOEY TOUGH! JOEY SMASH!*
*(anonymous people on the internet)
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
I wish you were the GM.
Be a fucking adult for once
Bluesbreaker : 10:19 pm : link : reply
We have our NT .
Tomlinson to me underwhelmed at NT
Seems we have to get something in a Edge rusher and
a RT in round #2 .. Maybe we move up ....
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last year’s draft.
10/10
We would have had a likely franchise QB in Rosen and two elite DL
Because that would make sense...
Much like taking Barkley over the qb last year it completely compromised any logical thinking from some of you and eliminated any logical talk, same will happen this year. Some of you love to be miserable and overt loud criticism. Can we let the guy take a shit as a giant first before we kill the entire scouting dept? The same GM crushed last year’s draft.
Everyone hated the Flowers pick and EVERYONE was right. Allen was a no brainer that fell in our laps at a position of need. At 6 Jones needs to be an All Pro QB and our 2nd pick made zero sense as well. We need a LB, WR, and DE and we draft a DT. What??
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
Folks are now quibbling about the order even though some scouts thought Jones may be under-rated on the media draft boards.
I trust professional scouts (and GMs) more than the Mel Kiper clones.
Not when you have lived with picks like Ron Dayne and Ereck Flowers.
Quote:
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
DL was a major need? Interior lineman? Really? More than an edge rusher? Or a LB, or a RT? I'm gonna go ahead and respectively disagree.
What I don't get is DGs fascination at upgrading positions where we have a player, even if they are not ideal. While we continue to ignore positions where we have nothing.
Edge, C, RT, LB, DE, even outside WR. While we picked a good CB in the trade-up, we need more than 1 CB.
We upgraded to a very nice RG, when we could have just resigned the guy we had. Not ideal, but getting a C and/or RT would have a greater impact. Now we upgraded the NT, but could have lived with DT. DE and ER would have a greater impact. Especially when it comes to the trenches, you are only as good as your weakest link...
Quote:
Joey wants to rant about how important locker room culture is while being toxic waste to the culture here.
JOEY TOUGH! JOEY SMASH!*
*(anonymous people on the internet)
Dude, that was funny......
This kid is a nightmare. Btw, will improve the linebackers behind him - ++
+1
I was for trading down a bit and taking Vea last year in the top 10, and we got someone equivalent in the mid 1st.
DG like a lot of us did not enjoy seeing this team pushed around. This kid helps to stop that.
I welcome such a addition and cant wait to see this team getting tough again.
I wonder too. I don't think so, but could he be traded, and what would he bring?
Quote:
Another wasted pick. The Giants don't even need an interior lineman. This is like the Twilight Zone. We pass on arguably the 2nd best DE edge rusher to reach on a QB and then pick a DT over Sweat.
What are you talking about? DL was a major need on this team. In addition, many posters on this site were praying we would draft Lawrence at #17.
Lawrence was one of my main targets for the Dline.. He will free up the backers behind him and take pressure off the DE's some as he will need to be double teamed. He is a force and gives us much needed size up the middle.
His selection makes D. Tomlinson and BJ Hill position's better. His selection makes the LBs and safety playing closer to the line better.
A very good pick at 17 that I would have given consideration to at 6.
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
Love this pick.
And not a 'body' at NT, I wanted a replacement for Snacks. Because Run D begins with a solid interior D-Line. Mentioned before, great NT's make linebackers better, but the reverse isn't true.
Watch Ogletree and Goodson now flourish as Lawrence effectively parks a fucking semi in front of them.
I think this defense is actually decent right now. D-Line and Backfield set - pass rush is now the only concern.
Quote:
Shocking that you can't conjure up anything coherent. Do you want my phone number or home address? Will that make your period shorter? Go have a cranberry juice and STFU. You fucking know nothing cunt.
Maybe you should take the next couple rounds off.
We all can pretty much take the next couple of rounds off.
I am giddy at thought of him wearing the jersey and watching him play.
Mobile version of Eli more likely
Love this pick.
Now imagine Josh Allen and Lorenzo Carter begins them ... sigh
Ray Didinger about Dexter Lawrence - ( New Window )
Not sure we can add to starting LBer corps right now, but we need at least one more starting-caliber LBer. That level of the team is somewhat susceptible and lacking still IMO.
Anyone who, like me, has the notion that hes a 2 down lineman, please dig deeper and watch him.
Sheeeesh. I mean....ooosh...I mean jeeesus.
Sheeeesh. I mean....ooosh...I mean jeeesus.
I feel it man, I was mentally prepared for Josh Allen, the total package. But hey, if Jones fails, DG is gone and if not then hey we hit a home run.
The Getts alone grabs a DT, DE or the OT at 6.
Dint forget, who let Jerry do his thing for ten years?