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Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 10:30 pm
So it was Jones and Lawrence and it should have been, according to most, Allen and Jones (assuming FO wanted Jones regardless).

Let's revisit in 4 years.
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BleedBlue : 4/25/2019 10:31 pm : link
agreed.
I wanted Sweat at 6  
George from PA : 4/25/2019 10:32 pm : link
.

So what do I know
Jones  
TommyWiseau : 4/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
Would have been gone by 17. Cincy loved him as did the Skins
Yeah  
jeff57 : 4/25/2019 10:33 pm : link
It’s not like we needed pass rushers or anything.
RE: Jones  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14407606 TommyWiseau said:
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Would have been gone by 17. Cincy loved him as did the Skins


Interesting. What is your source?

Skins would have taken him over Haskins??
RE: Jones  
since1925 : 4/25/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14407606 TommyWiseau said:
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Would have been gone by 17. Cincy loved him as did the Skins
Great! Yuck.
RE: Yeah  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14407609 jeff57 said:
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It’s not like we needed pass rushers or anything.


So clearly you preferred Allen over Lawrence.

Again, let's revisit after they have played in the NFL for a while.
RE: Jones  
RDJR : 4/25/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14407606 TommyWiseau said:
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Would have been gone by 17. Cincy loved him as did the Skins


They can have him. Lock would have been an option at 17 if a QB had to be chosen.
Jay  
Marty866b : 4/25/2019 10:37 pm : link
You know I liked both Wilkins and Lawrence. Liked Wilkins more because of versatility and pass rush.
This draft sucks  
superspynyg : 4/25/2019 10:38 pm : link
DG is clueless. Need a pass rusher don’t get one. Reach on a qb.
This thread assumes that Jones was the  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 10:39 pm : link
#1 QB on their board (even if Murray had not been picked).

Many here believe that he would have been available at 17 (including me).

So the premise of this thread is as I have stated initially.
Safe  
AcesUp : 4/25/2019 10:41 pm : link
Lawrence is a high floor/high ceiling type at a low impact position and Jones is a high floor/low ceiling type at a high impact position.
RE: Jay  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14407643 Marty866b said:
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You know I liked both Wilkins and Lawrence. Liked Wilkins more because of versatility and pass rush.


Yeah well at least Lawrence had lasted.

So you would have gone Wilkins at 6. So that is another scenario to consider.

So for the purposes of the thread, it's really about whom you would have picked at 6 assuming Jones was picked at 17.

I'm not sure Lawrence is that much of a compromise.
what a disaster.  
Mendenhall : 4/25/2019 10:46 pm : link
Fire Gettleman!
Our first round got us 0 wins...  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/25/2019 10:49 pm : link
From what we figured before. 6-10 best case scenario.
Allen, Bosa, and Q. Williams  
Leg of Theismann : 4/25/2019 10:57 pm : link
were pretty much unanimously considered the 3 "elite" prospects in this class. I was shocked we had a chance to land one of them and passed on the opportunity. Very surprised DG apparently did not see Allen as that "gold-jacket" type of player that you have to take regardless of what your needs are. Oh, but Josh Allen also would have filled a massive need.

Just makes no sense to me. But then again I was a HUGE Allen fan. I personally think he's going to have a better career than Bosa but that's just me.
RE: Allen, Bosa, and Q. Williams  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14407828 Leg of Theismann said:
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were pretty much unanimously considered the 3 "elite" prospects in this class. I was shocked we had a chance to land one of them and passed on the opportunity. Very surprised DG apparently did not see Allen as that "gold-jacket" type of player that you have to take regardless of what your needs are. Oh, but Josh Allen also would have filled a massive need.

Just makes no sense to me. But then again I was a HUGE Allen fan. I personally think he's going to have a better career than Bosa but that's just me.


So you are in the Allen/Jones camp.

Fair enough
Would love  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 11:06 pm : link
for Sy to chime in.

(Spoiler alert, he had Lawrence ranked #5 with a borderline "Immediate starter, building block for a decade, franchise player" and Allen at 21 with a solid "First round talent, starter and/or majprity of the snaps each week")
when was the last time we had three picks?  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2019 11:53 pm : link
In Round 1??
RE: Our first round got us 0 wins...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/25/2019 11:54 pm : link
In comment 14407758 sb from NYT Forum said:
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From what we figured before. 6-10 best case scenario.


LOL. Great insight.
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christian : 4/26/2019 12:02 am : link
The Giants actually had a passable pass rush last year based on the advanced stats. What hurt them the most was their atrocious coverage in the secondary.

The Giants unbelievably had a higher percentage of TDs/play when opposing QBs were under pressure.
RE: Yeah  
djm : 4/26/2019 12:06 am : link
In comment 14407609 jeff57 said:
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It’s not like we needed pass rushers or anything.


Right. And it’s not like we need a young qb here or DL help. And our corners are so deep why draft the best collegiate cb....

Maybe you thought the giants had six first rounders.
Looks like  
Jay in Toronto : 4/26/2019 12:11 am : link
Shuter got two immediate starters.

I have much more confidence in Baker than Beal
I wouldn't have drafted Jones at 6...  
Vinny from Danbury : 4/26/2019 12:17 am : link
I wanted an OT or pass rusher at 6, but I'm fine with our 3 picks in the 1st. I would think we are improved from where we were yesterday, I always consider every draft pick a crapshoot, so we'll see how it all pans out in a few years. As for now, I trust Gettleman and Co to improve the team. They haven't done anything in the last 2 years to make me believe otherwise.

I would have probably taken Allen then Jones (if he lasted)  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 12:22 am : link
I also liked LAwrence a lot. So getting Jones/Lawrence, is the same as getting Lawrence/Jones, which I'm fine with.

I really like the CB at #30. We needed another cb.
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