Is Baker an indictment that Beal may not be ready for prime time? Why did we need a NT so badly when we have a couple young bulls there already? Talk that Engram is not a fit, too, so how about a TE? Gave away solid picks to move back up for the CB, which is gonna hurt tomorrow. And now a rookie QB to make thinks awkward with our aging vet face of the franchise.
Lot more questions than answers. This may be the first year in awhile where we KNOW this season is nothing more than a stepping stone to the next. Not too excited about that.
We had two defensive linemen. Two.
Half of BBI said we needed a QB.
We had only one proven CB.
Excuse me, if you didn't realize that we are in rebuild mode***
Sorry. Daniel Jones pick threw me off today.
It's funny how quickly people seem to forget how important a top-tier cover corner is in this league, it always has been and I would think even moreso now with teams passing so much and going to to so many 3 and 4 WR sets.
This is football- plain and simply you need players who can flat-out cover somebody 1-on-1, or you're going to lose often. That's what this pick was about.
This should help put in perspective how bereft of talent on many levels the team was.
And not surprisingly, because of the lack of talent, they sucked.
Jenkins will be gone in 2020, Beal is unproven, CB also a need
We had two defensive linemen. Two.
Half of BBI said we needed a QB.
We had only one proven CB.
Yeah I just looked. Maybe Tomlinson moves back outside. Again? Still think a pass rusher was a much bigger need than another fat belly NT. We had a stud NT in Snacks before and that did much of nothing to move the needle on our W-L record.
And yes if they believe that Daniel Jones is going to be a QB that can deliver Superbowls when Eli is done then he was the BPA at #6.
smh. we have multiple needs
We had two defensive linemen. Two.
Half of BBI said we needed a QB.
We had only one proven CB.
+1
We had two defensive linemen. Two.
Half of BBI said we needed a QB.
We had only one proven CB.
I was fine with Dexter Lawrence. I wanted Brian Burns at that point, but he was gone. Lawrence was literally the next guy on my list, especially with uncertainties with Montez Sweat's health.
I'm fine with Baker too. Giants needed a CB and he could be the best all around CB in this draft.
BUT, what did the Giants give up to trade back up into the first round? Did they give up their second rounder?? I can't find this info. Any help would be appreciated.
smh. we have multiple needs
Touché
Guards who can’t ply center
Running back
Tight end
Safety
After that - we have tons of holes
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need to look at our depth chart.
We had two defensive linemen. Two.
Half of BBI said we needed a QB.
We had only one proven CB.
Yeah I just looked. Maybe Tomlinson moves back outside. Again? Still think a pass rusher was a much bigger need than another fat belly NT. We had a stud NT in Snacks before and that did much of nothing to move the needle on our W-L record.
Lawrence is a lot more than "another fat belly NT." Oh, and Snacks was 30 years-old, with bad knees, and more than likely part of the culture that needed to be changed.
That position is interchangeable in Bettcher’s defense. Could be SE or FS. I’m intending to reference a young counterpart to Peppers, who I don’t believe to be Bethea (seems like a Brent Alexander type signing, if you remember him).
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SS.
That position is interchangeable in Bettcher’s defense. Could be SE or FS. I’m intending to reference a young counterpart to Peppers, who I don’t believe to be Bethea (seems like a Brent Alexander type signing, if you remember him).
“SS” not “SE”
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SS.
That position is interchangeable in Bettcher’s defense. Could be SE or FS. I’m intending to reference a young counterpart to Peppers, who I don’t believe to be Bethea (seems like a Brent Alexander type signing, if you remember him).
Brent Alexander played pretty well for the Giants before he retired. I don't see the problem here. I didn't figure on the Giants drafting a Safety until Day 3 anyway.
If you're a Giant fan who wants to see them win another Super Bowl someday you're already hoping for 2-14 next year and a new GM and coach that haven't been left behind by the rest of the NFL.
Although with the Mara brothers running things there might be no hope anyway. They can't even figure out how to finish in front of Dan Snyder anymore.
If you're a Giant fan who wants to see them win another Super Bowl someday you're already hoping for 2-14 next year and a new GM and coach that haven't been left behind by the rest of the NFL.
Although with the Mara brothers running things there might be no hope anyway. They can't even figure out how to finish in front of Dan Snyder anymore.
I thought for sure they'd put a premium on ER's/OLB's. Stunned that they didn't.
he has the size,build and pedigree and it seams the thought that DG would target him because of the cutcliff/eli links were spot on. i would have prefered haskins personally but since he is a redskin now i hope gettleman was right and those of us that wanted haskins at 6 were wrong
he didnt have a good OL or any weapons at duke so hopefully that masked how good he actually was
they needed a NT badly in that 3-4 defence its the key piece and after trading snacks away it was always going to be a priority to find, and the one they got is a special player who will be a day 1 starter no question and someone i liked and hoped they would draft
CB was also an almighty need on this giants team they were razor thin at the position even before they traded apple away. they really needed a CB with an aging jackrabbit and beal a red shirted rookie coming off a season ending injury before week 1 last year the need couldnt be understated they got what many believed was the best CB in the draft so again its hard to deny the pick there
passrusher is also a need and hopefully DG has a few guys he can target in the later rounds,they still could do with at least one more OL maybe a centre and RT its probably a FS the giants are after anyway as peppers figures to play the SS/moneybacker role in bettchers defence and i have wanted the giants to target a plax type bigger outside WR for several drafts now. hopefully there is one in the later rounds they can get
thou the defence is getting better and bettcher is finally getting the pieces to make that 3-4 work. if beal is as good as advertised then he, baker and jackrabbit could be a very good group,if the guys they got last year can continue trending upwards the defence should be better which can only be a good thing. as coverage lapses where key to the passrush not getting home. fix that the players they have upfront get better production is clearly the plan there is still time to find at least 1 passrusher in a strong defensive draft
lets not forget the giants are in the state they are in because reese blew too many high picks on the likes of apple,flowers etc and next to nobody from the back half of his drafts were able to at least provide depth or backups it was always going to take 2-3 nailed drafts to get that defence fixed