But her e goes my thoughts.
1. Stunned they went qb at 6. Was told no way. I did Tell you they loved Jones. I was told Jones or lock at 17 and last week they thought they may not be available then. I took that to mean trading up from 17. For what it's worth, I actually heard from 3 people Rosen was never a consideration. Also, won't go into specifics, there's more to the team not wanting Haskins then just talent. To me, and I like Jones, passing on allen is criminal. I was wrong though and inown it.
2. Lawrence can play. I disagree w Eric on Tomlinson. If he stays he'll go back To end but they feel he's best at nose. I think he could definitely be traded. I was told tonight most were stunned but they plan to try to add more picks still.
3. Demanded Baker I love. I do. That said he has red flags also. The Giants avoid red flags like the plague but don't here. Baffling. Again. I love Baker though. Well see.
Fire away
You certainly shouldn’t demean them with comments like, “How many times do I have to tell you that s not happening “
As it turns out your predictions are guesses too.
If they seriously think Jones is more talented than Rosen, this regime probably won’t be around very long, which is a good thing. I’ll admit it: I hate everything about Gettleman.
I was talking about pure talent. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone who believes there is anything physically or mentally Jones does better than Rosen with regards to being a QB. So obviously it’s his personality that scared off the NYG. That’s fine. I’m ok with that. They reached for Jones badly instead, which is their prerogative. To me, the pick probably just starts the countdown clock on the remainder of this regime’s employment.
Enjoy the info for what it is - something to enjoy for the moment. If you don't like the info, or the poster, just ignore him/her. Frauds post because they like the attention.
Speaking of grain of salt, was onetime ever outed by someone more substantial than a Simo?
Thanks JT for all of your insights and even your continued, ignored warnings that things can change.
Snacks - NT
Tomlinson - 3
B.J. Hill - 5
The problem with that is that - as DG pointed out the 1st time - that means both DT and Hill playing out of position. But it's best 3 on the field.
Snacks - NT
Tomlinson - 3
B.J. Hill - 5
The problem with that is that - as DG pointed out the 1st time - that means both DT and Hill playing out of position. But it's best 3 on the field.
The combo did pretty well when Snacks was here. They better hope Golden recovers the magic of a couple of years ago and that Carter starts producing, or else their pass rush could be even worse than last season.
Snacks - NT
Tomlinson - 3
B.J. Hill - 5
He is right on multiple things in free agency.
His source indicated he didn’t think we’d take a QB at 6 but that they love Jones/Lock.
They take Jones at 6. Guy comes here and posts his reaction like a man and you people post things like BBI snake oil and you should be nicer?
Lol.
Thanks.
You certainly shouldn’t demean them with comments like, “How many times do I have to tell you that s not happening “
As it turns out your predictions are guesses too.
This. Thanks for sharing the info. you had, but maybe learn some humility from this and try not to be so condescending to other posters going forward.
And admit you were dead wrong on Rosen, too - DG admitted they were interested under the right circumstances.
Mentorship and legacy.
They've said all along that they see the optimal transition/succession plan including a year of apprenticeship for the rookie behind Eli. It appears (and justifiably so) that they value having Eli set the right example for the next QB, which has nothing to do with whether or not 2019 is viewed as a year in which they can realistically contend.
Beyond that, the Giants seem to be leaving it in Eli's court to retire; they'd prefer to not have to part ways with an all-time franchise icon in a way that is anything less than graceful, especially after the hysteria that ensued after the benching fiasco in 2017.
Separately, why is the only insight you're into Tomlinson's role vis-á-vis Lawrence the same quote all of us heard ourselves from Gettleman last season after the Harrison trade?
It's starting to feel like a lot of the intel that you shared was only partially inside info and partly just reading the tea leaves and filling in the gaps for yourself just like the rest of us all along, framed by what you wanted the Giants to do. There's no way that the Jones pick was just an overnight development yesterday.
Oh, stop. It's not THAT fluid. They didn't just decide yesterday to take Jones at #6. If Gettleman is saying they had the same grade on him as they did on Allen, then anyone saying that Allen would definitely have been the pick over a QB was either given bad info or was piecing things together themselves from assorted nuggets and clues and passing things off with a much more definitive tone than the info deserved.
Anyone who has to puff out their chest and point to their track record repeatedly is clearly very interested in being seen as an asshat, which (IMO) is exactly what an asshat wouldn't do.
JT's source was probably giving him very accurate information based on their access. JTs source could be a scout or other person in the organization that is privy to information only up to a certain level. Unless a source, is directly inside and involved at the highest level its difficult to have complete fidelity regarding the information
JT's source was probably giving him very accurate information based on their access. JTs source could be a scout or other person in the organization that is privy to information only up to a certain level. Unless a source, is directly inside and involved at the highest level its difficult to have complete fidelity regarding the information
Part of the issue is that it's hard to parse which of JT's stuff is inside info and which is his own editorial, and he makes very little effort to differentiate the two. As to the source, clearly the source was either providing misinformation or was not as privy to the highest level of info as JT's confidence would suggest. Scout seems like the right level, though that wouldn't be someone who would have advance info on things like the schedule, which JT was also outspoken (and wrong) about.
Like I said earlier, there's just something a little bit off about acting like it's very important to be viewed as a legitimate asshat, IMO.
I don't expect 100% hit rate. Situations chance on a dime, so what may have been correct last week may have changed 20 minutes into the draft...
A lot of us do.
i dont think he was dropping to 17 and trading back up may have been too costly at the time. (its cheaper to trade up to 30, not so much to 8-10)
And surely they would bring in another DG sleeper later in the draft. He knows the trenches.
Exactly. And many of the names you've mentioned were all high on our board. And you made it clear we really liked Jones. Simply put they realized they needed to go for him at 6 because he wouldnt make 17 .
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I'd say personality and talent. I'll leave it there.
If they seriously think Jones is more talented than Rosen, this regime probably won’t be around very long, which is a good thing. I’ll admit it: I hate everything about Gettleman.
Right there with you. Last night and this offseason have been a disaster. It’s like I’m a nine year old Mets fan and it’s 1977 all over again. Fucking Gettleman.
Good
You said they had no interest in Rosen, but Gettleman said they did.