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The thing that makes me laugh year after year

Essex : 4/26/2019 8:16 am
is how people on here think they can evaluate pro talent and translate college highlight reels to a projection. Now I am not saying donít have an opinion, but you (including me) all read scout sites, many of who have never been near in NFL front office and treat them as the gospel. The bottom line is either you trust Gettleman or you donít. In terms of drafting, he hasnít given me any reason not to trust him. What I hate are the narratives, can we let the kid play before we call him a bust? Hasnít these post-draft mourning sessions taught anyone the ability to wait and see? Itís just disappointing and the more the media gets up on Gettlmeman the more I hope he shoves it down his throat. Anyway, I will take the position I take every year, letís wait and see. Who care what these pundits or beat writers, who never scouted in their lives, say.
I agree 100% with  
lecky : 4/26/2019 8:18 am : link
what you are saying. Also throw in the fact that so many people on here have been waiting for Eli's replacement for years now. Maybe this is the guy.
Yep.  
Beezer : 4/26/2019 8:19 am : link
Letís see the kid in a year or two before passing the judgmentations.
The NFL loved  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 8:21 am : link
Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.
And sometimes theyíre right.  
Beezer : 4/26/2019 8:22 am : link
Stop freaking and let it roll out.
RE: The NFL loved  
Blue The Dog : 4/26/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.


Most of those picks were considered reaches when they were made as well.
RE: The NFL loved  
KDubbs : 4/26/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.


As are mock drafting fanboys.
RE: The NFL loved  
crick n NC : 4/26/2019 8:23 am : link
In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.


You don't even seem willing to give Jones a fair shot.
I know squat about Jones and even if I watched  
Big Blue '56 : 4/26/2019 8:23 am : link
his entire career I still would essentially know squat about him. Iíve been saying this since the discussion on the draft heated up months ago: If the Giants believe their next franchise guy is in this draft, they have little choice but to take him early. Real early.

Nothingís guaranteed one way or the other, but who am I going to buy into? BBIers knee-jerk assessments or pros like Shurmur and DG?
Does it make you laugh when Certain people get hired  
Dutch77 : 4/26/2019 8:27 am : link
to run a franchise and have no track record for building a winning team? What great QB did Gettleman scout and or draft in any of his previous stops? Who did Pat Shurmur help draft or scout?
Here We Go Again...  
BlueVinnie : 4/26/2019 8:27 am : link
What is the point of these types of forums if you can't express your opinion regarding management's decisions? I don't understand you guys that throw out the "you think you know more than.." comments. Should we just post "Nice pick" or "I hope it works out" comments?

This is a place to post opinions and debate. In addition, just because someone holds a title such as GM, doesn't guarentee they're going to be great or even good at that job. There are those that can be very strong in support or secondary roles and just can't cut it as the top guy.


RE: The NFL loved  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2019 8:28 am : link
In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.


That is not true. Daniel Jeremiah said before the draft that within NFL circles people thought those guys were 3rd round picks but teams reached because of need.
The number one thing is that Gettleman  
Essex : 4/26/2019 8:29 am : link
drafted him at six and wasnít taking chances. That shows me a lot in terms of his belief and that is all I need. Gettleman for whatever you think of him as a GM running an organization, is a good scout. If we would have let him go at six, and risked him at 17, I would have a different calculus in my head. Gentlemen obviously likes him and that is big plus in my book.
RE: RE: The NFL loved  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14409362 crick n NC said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.



You don't even seem willing to give Jones a fair shot.


Iíll give him a fair shot.

If I donít think heís good Iíll voice my opinion. Itís a discussion board.
EA ... is right up there but.  
short lease : 4/26/2019 8:33 am : link
I have not trusted a Giant's GM this much since George Young.
RE: Here We Go Again...  
KDubbs : 4/26/2019 8:33 am : link
In comment 14409385 BlueVinnie said:
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What is the point of these types of forums if you can't express your opinion regarding management's decisions? I don't understand you guys that throw out the "you think you know more than.." comments. Should we just post "Nice pick" or "I hope it works out" comments?

This is a place to post opinions and debate. In addition, just because someone holds a title such as GM, doesn't guarentee they're going to be great or even good at that job. There are those that can be very strong in support or secondary roles and just can't cut it as the top guy.



You can have an opinion opposite of what the GM has but its the overreactions by the people who take the draft and sports way too seriously. The remote throwing joke and the ruined my day people or Im so mad I couldnt sleep people must have pathetic lives if it bothers them that much.

I wanted Allen, I wouldnt mind Jones at 17 but I said meh weíll see when they play. Woke up this morning, got to work and cant wait to get out at 2:30 to head to the Barclays for an isles playoff game. And if they lose, guess what Iíll wake up 2morrow and enjoy the weekend doing whatever I find to do
RE: The NFL loved  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2019 8:33 am : link
In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.


But you are wrong most of the time.
So, I'll go with the NFL.
RE: I know squat about Jones and even if I watched  
short lease : 4/26/2019 8:35 am : link
In comment 14409364 Big Blue '56 said:
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his entire career I still would essentially know squat about him. Iíve been saying this since the discussion on the draft heated up months ago: If the Giants believe their next franchise guy is in this draft, they have little choice but to take him early. Real early.

Nothingís guaranteed one way or the other, but who am I going to buy into? BBIers knee-jerk assessments or pros like Shurmur and DG?


+100
RE: RE: The NFL loved  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 8:35 am : link
In comment 14409420 ZogZerg said:
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.



But you are wrong most of the time.
So, I'll go with the NFL.


Sure whatever you say.
Great pick!  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 8:36 am : link
So excited for 2019!


Itís that what you guys rather want posted?
RE: EA ... is right up there but.  
Essex : 4/26/2019 8:38 am : link
In comment 14409415 short lease said:
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I have not trusted a Giant's GM this much since George Young.

I agree with this, Gettleman knows how to identify a good football player and so did George Young. However, Young wasnít always right and Gettleman wonít be either, but I think those guys have good batting averages. I trust DG more than I trust the Dan Grazianoís and Jordan Raananís of this world. Do either of them have a single day employed as a scout?
RE: Great pick!  
Essex : 4/26/2019 8:39 am : link
In comment 14409432 ajr2456 said:
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So excited for 2019!


Itís that what you guys rather want posted?

No, I would rather you admit you have no clue whether he will be good or not or something closer to the truth!
RE: RE: RE: The NFL loved  
crick n NC : 4/26/2019 8:44 am : link
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In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:


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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.



You don't even seem willing to give Jones a fair shot.



Iíll give him a fair shot.

If I donít think heís good Iíll voice my opinion. Itís a discussion board.


Fine, but you tend to communicate your opinions as facts which is possibly why you rub some posters the wrong way.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The NFL loved  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 9:02 am : link
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In comment 14409349 ajr2456 said:


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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.



You don't even seem willing to give Jones a fair shot.



Iíll give him a fair shot.

If I donít think heís good Iíll voice my opinion. Itís a discussion board.



Fine, but you tend to communicate your opinions as facts which is possibly why you rub some posters the wrong way.


Maybe so and maybe posts could be worded better to not reflect that - but at least I do it without calling people ďfucking moronsĒ like some posters.
To th OP  
giantstock : 4/26/2019 9:02 am : link
I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?

I just hoe you're right.

You know it's okay to not like the pick from the start, right? I mean there wee some analysts that didn';t like Jones, right? They might be right and not DG, right?

What if you listen to their opinion on what's said and you think they are right? How do you express it on this board to your satisfaction? Any opinion the poster said -- someone such as yourself cna always say "Why don't you wait?' -- right?

But it's just an opinion.
RE: To th OP  
Essex : 4/26/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14409597 giantstock said:
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I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?

I just hoe you're right.

You know it's okay to not like the pick from the start, right? I mean there wee some analysts that didn';t like Jones, right? They might be right and not DG, right?

What if you listen to their opinion on what's said and you think they are right? How do you express it on this board to your satisfaction? Any opinion the poster said -- someone such as yourself cna always say "Why don't you wait?' -- right?

But it's just an opinion.


First, express your opinion however you like. I am no the BBi police. I just offer perspective and what would be credible to me. Admitting what you donít know would enhance your credibility with me at least.

I donít have the foggiest clue about Jones, but I trust DG, you donít; thatís fine. I think his resume warrants respect especially since his background is in scouting, if you donít, I assume you have your reasons
RE: Does it make you laugh when Certain people get hired  
Bernie : 4/26/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14409384 Dutch77 said:
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to run a franchise and have no track record for building a winning team? What great QB did Gettleman scout and or draft in any of his previous stops? Who did Pat Shurmur help draft or scout?


Pretty sure Gettleman helped build the 2007 & 2011 Super Bowl champion teams as well as building the Carolina team that went to the Super Bowl. But believe what you want.
RE: RE: To th OP  
giantstock : 4/26/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14409644 Essex said:
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I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?

I just hoe you're right.

You know it's okay to not like the pick from the start, right? I mean there wee some analysts that didn';t like Jones, right? They might be right and not DG, right?

What if you listen to their opinion on what's said and you think they are right? How do you express it on this board to your satisfaction? Any opinion the poster said -- someone such as yourself cna always say "Why don't you wait?' -- right?

But it's just an opinion.



First, express your opinion however you like. I am no the BBi police. I just offer perspective and what would be credible to me. Admitting what you donít know would enhance your credibility with me at least.

I donít have the foggiest clue about Jones, but I trust DG, you donít; thatís fine. I think his resume warrants respect especially since his background is in scouting, if you donít, I assume you have your reasons


Your thread seems to be laughing at those who don;t agree with your opinion. As though you are the expert. I mean aren;t you saying you are laughing at posters who don't agree with your opinion - at least based on the title?
RE: RE: To th OP  
short lease : 4/29/2019 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14409644 Essex said:
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I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?


He was with the Giants from 1998 to 2013 as Director of Pro-personal.

Why they let him getaway is beyond me.

Yeah, he got fired by the Panthers because the players turned on him for multiple reasons and the pussy owner folded. DG's abrasive personality probably had something to do with it also - does not mean he is a bad GM.


























































I just hoe you're right.

You know it's okay to not like the pick from the start, right? I mean there wee some analysts that didn';t like Jones, right? They might be right and not DG, right?

What if you listen to their opinion on what's said and you think they are right? How do you express it on this board to your satisfaction? Any opinion the poster said -- someone such as yourself cna always say "Why don't you wait?' -- right?

But it's just an opinion.



First, express your opinion however you like. I am no the BBi police. I just offer perspective and what would be credible to me. Admitting what you donít know would enhance your credibility with me at least.

I donít have the foggiest clue about Jones, but I trust DG, you donít; thatís fine. I think his resume warrants respect especially since his background is in scouting, if you donít, I assume you have your reasons
People read draft grades?  
GothamGiants : 4/29/2019 5:58 pm : link
I found this old 1 interesting; 2017 Draft

Solomon Thomas A-

Watson C+
Mahomes C-
Trubisky D-
Christian Mccaffrey D+
Grades matter - ( New Window )
RE: RE: To th OP  
giantstock : 4/29/2019 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14409644 Essex said:
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I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?

I just hoe you're right.

You know it's okay to not like the pick from the start, right? I mean there wee some analysts that didn';t like Jones, right? They might be right and not DG, right?

What if you listen to their opinion on what's said and you think they are right? How do you express it on this board to your satisfaction? Any opinion the poster said -- someone such as yourself cna always say "Why don't you wait?' -- right?

But it's just an opinion.



First, express your opinion however you like. I am no the BBi police. I just offer perspective and what would be credible to me. Admitting what you donít know would enhance your credibility with me at least.

I donít have the foggiest clue about Jones, but I trust DG, you donít; thatís fine. I think his resume warrants respect especially since his background is in scouting, if you donít, I assume you have your reasons


Essex-- I'm not a scout. But the point is I don;t understand some of you using excuses for DG and thengetting upset with some of us that don't like him but are hopeful. DOn;t take offense to this but none of us can ever fully satisfy you when you make mention "Admit what you don't know."

Everyone can;t put in everyone of their posts "IMO" or "I'm not a scout" etc.

IMO too many on here treat DG like he walks on water because of the Reese regime leaving the team with little. Thus he gets the built-in excuse "How dare you criticize him . . . he had nothing to start with . . ."

So for some of us that wish to post what we feel are his mistakes -- we can never be "right" if you compare him to Reese or you hide behind "he was a former scout" etc.

The point is -- there are other scouts that don't agree with DG. You have to accept a certain understanding for example with Jones there are other scouts that didn;t like him so if you see a counter against Jones it probably has some validity yet you made it sound like on your creation of the thread you're laughing at anyone criticizing DG because he's a scout and BBI posters and other scouts who disagree aren't worthy to criticize.


****And I want DG to succeed because he rusn the GMEN. But your point of wishing DG shoves it down "their throats."

I couldnt disagree more -- I want him to succeeed badly - but the guy is a complete asshole. I'm rooting he becomes successful but gets humbled in some way to stop becoming such an ass.
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Big Blue '56 : 4/29/2019 7:58 pm : link
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I couldnt disagree more -- I want him to succeeed badly - but the guy is a complete asshole. I'm rooting he becomes successful but gets humbled in some way to stop becoming such an ass.



The man has been fighting cancer. Heís already humbled
RE: RE: RE: To th OP  
arcarsenal : 4/29/2019 8:02 pm : link
In comment 14422080 giantstock said:
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I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?

I just hoe you're right.

You know it's okay to not like the pick from the start, right? I mean there wee some analysts that didn';t like Jones, right? They might be right and not DG, right?

What if you listen to their opinion on what's said and you think they are right? How do you express it on this board to your satisfaction? Any opinion the poster said -- someone such as yourself cna always say "Why don't you wait?' -- right?

But it's just an opinion.



First, express your opinion however you like. I am no the BBi police. I just offer perspective and what would be credible to me. Admitting what you donít know would enhance your credibility with me at least.

I donít have the foggiest clue about Jones, but I trust DG, you donít; thatís fine. I think his resume warrants respect especially since his background is in scouting, if you donít, I assume you have your reasons



Essex-- I'm not a scout. But the point is I don;t understand some of you using excuses for DG and thengetting upset with some of us that don't like him but are hopeful. DOn;t take offense to this but none of us can ever fully satisfy you when you make mention "Admit what you don't know."

Everyone can;t put in everyone of their posts "IMO" or "I'm not a scout" etc.

IMO too many on here treat DG like he walks on water because of the Reese regime leaving the team with little. Thus he gets the built-in excuse "How dare you criticize him . . . he had nothing to start with . . ."

So for some of us that wish to post what we feel are his mistakes -- we can never be "right" if you compare him to Reese or you hide behind "he was a former scout" etc.

The point is -- there are other scouts that don't agree with DG. You have to accept a certain understanding for example with Jones there are other scouts that didn;t like him so if you see a counter against Jones it probably has some validity yet you made it sound like on your creation of the thread you're laughing at anyone criticizing DG because he's a scout and BBI posters and other scouts who disagree aren't worthy to criticize.


****And I want DG to succeed because he rusn the GMEN. But your point of wishing DG shoves it down "their throats."

I couldnt disagree more -- I want him to succeeed badly - but the guy is a complete asshole. I'm rooting he becomes successful but gets humbled in some way to stop becoming such an ass.


So, you're rooting for your own shitty opinion to be validated just as much as you're rooting for the Giants.

You fit right in here!

Gettleman can be dopey and say a lot of silly things.

Not sure why he's an "asshole" - but that sounds like a you problem and not a problem of his.
This..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/29/2019 8:18 pm : link
is the umpteenth time you've posted a variation of this shit:

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To th OP
giantstock : 4/26/2019 9:02 am : link : reply
I don't trust DG. You want to only look at 1 year of the Giants? He got fired from Panthers, didn;t he?


And you still don't seemingly have a fucking clue why he was fired. You do realize he was fired by an erratic owner because he wanted to look at moving Olsen and Davis, right? And what has happened since Richardson is gone? Olsen has been healthy for 9 games and Davis is gone. Olsen may retire prior to the season.

If you are going to repeat something ad nauseum at least have the intelligence to understand what the fuck you are asserting.
Gettleman reminds me of a guy BSing at a bar..  
Sean : 4/29/2019 8:32 pm : link
A lot of people pounce on him for the most ridiculous things. For example, the Big 12 comment with the Haskins game. When you watch the press conference & see the full context, itís not bad. I donít mind this with Gettleman. I find it refreshing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The NFL loved  
Jimmy Googs : 4/29/2019 8:46 pm : link
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.



You don't even seem willing to give Jones a fair shot.



Iíll give him a fair shot.

If I donít think heís good Iíll voice my opinion. Itís a discussion board.



Fine, but you tend to communicate your opinions as facts which is possibly why you rub some posters the wrong way.



Maybe so and maybe posts could be worded better to not reflect that - but at least I do it without calling people ďfucking moronsĒ like some posters.


Itís pretty damn obvious what is a fact versus a post with just a strong opinion and if others cant figure that out or are turned off then they need to move on, not you. More often their disdain is that they prefer not to go out on that limb or they like to hedge their bets in their posts showing little to no conviction while actually expecting the opposite of the guys that run the Giants.

I have no idea whether your posts are uber-controversial or not as I seldom read names as I go thru threads but donít go altering much if anything based on the critique given above. Imv.



RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The NFL loved  
crick n NC : 4/29/2019 9:22 pm : link
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Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Cristian Ponder, Ej Manuel.

Theyíre wrong sometimes.



You don't even seem willing to give Jones a fair shot.



Iíll give him a fair shot.

If I donít think heís good Iíll voice my opinion. Itís a discussion board.



Fine, but you tend to communicate your opinions as facts which is possibly why you rub some posters the wrong way.



Maybe so and maybe posts could be worded better to not reflect that - but at least I do it without calling people ďfucking moronsĒ like some posters.



Itís pretty damn obvious what is a fact versus a post with just a strong opinion and if others cant figure that out or are turned off then they need to move on, not you. More often their disdain is that they prefer not to go out on that limb or they like to hedge their bets in their posts showing little to no conviction while actually expecting the opposite of the guys that run the Giants.

I have no idea whether your posts are uber-controversial or not as I seldom read names as I go thru threads but donít go altering much if anything based on the critique given above. Imv.




It seems to me it is common to pick a side on a topic then stick with it even when new information becomes available.

Having an opinion about something without keeping an open mind to what is contrary doesn't seem the best way to go about things, at least in my opinion. Being right seems more important than learning. If I can't admit when I'm wrong it makes it tougher to learn. I have to remind myself daily to listen to what the contrary opinions are saying without always needing to have some sort of a comeback. It's actually a good thing for me to tell someone they have a point instead of constantly defending.



As a life long admirer to the minority or consenting opinion  
Jimmy Googs : 4/29/2019 11:10 pm : link
you are debating the wrong guy.

As long as they donít go off the reservation (you know...like Mr. Fuckstick) donít suggest how others should render their opinions. Respond, debate and even argue but let them post...
RE: As a life long admirer to the minority or consenting opinion  
crick n NC : 4/30/2019 8:30 am : link
In comment 14422319 Jimmy Googs said:
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you are debating the wrong guy.

As long as they donít go off the reservation (you know...like Mr. Fuckstick) donít suggest how others should render their opinions. Respond, debate and even argue but let them post...


Noted
RE: Here We Go Again...  
pjcas18 : 4/30/2019 8:37 am : link
In comment 14409385 BlueVinnie said:
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What is the point of these types of forums if you can't express your opinion regarding management's decisions? I don't understand you guys that throw out the "you think you know more than.." comments. Should we just post "Nice pick" or "I hope it works out" comments?

This is a place to post opinions and debate. In addition, just because someone holds a title such as GM, doesn't guarentee they're going to be great or even good at that job. There are those that can be very strong in support or secondary roles and just can't cut it as the top guy.



This is the way society works today, not just in sports. There is no longer any opportunity or appetite for discourse, if people don't think like me, they're labeled as X and shut down, labeled, mocked, or otherwise harassed and ostracized.

Discussion is good  
crick n NC : 4/30/2019 8:49 am : link
However it's how the discussion is structured. Are the people discussing ignoring facts because it goes against their POV? Are the "facts" being presented real facts? Are both sides willing to listen and admit the other side has a point? Are we understanding that most likely we are dealing with much less information than those we questioning (front offices, coaches etc)?
The OP is gentleman - a good guy  
giantstock : 4/30/2019 9:26 am : link
Unfortunately on here sometimes I am not.

I just don;t agree with the OP. He says "who cares what the media says . . . " yet starts a thread on it. He hopes DG shoves it down their throats and I want to see DG humbled.

The OP mentions because DG has scouting and we don;'t we're not in much position to criticize but yet I think most on here can see that Jones is not anywhere near a consensus so wouldnt you have to expect that possibly a guy graded higher than 17 would get negative posts? There are other scouts out there that didn't like Jones near as much.

SUre you can wait and see -- but you can always make predictions or like certain styles of play. For me I like pocket passers so I should like Jones but from what I see I don't think his arm is that great and especially on the move and I dont think he is as near quick as he made out to be-- and then I hear about his decision making-- and i love the though of power trenches. But just because I dont like the pick at all doesn;t mean I want him to fail.

The same with DG., I'm surprised anyone can;t see he acts like an ass. I think he;s an embarrassment. ANd I'm also surprised that he gets excused from some of his negative body of work such as being dumped by Panthers, to some of his poor moves, and his FA moves etc yet some get against the media instead of him. But with all that-- I want the guy to win yet I get some posts accusing me of different. The smae wiht others who make negative posts. We're poled into "we want Giants to lose." Nooo- I'm sure 99% don't.

The thing is -- we've stunk for so long and if you see what you think are bad moves and you hate how the guy who is in charge is acting while making some critically bad moves ofc you're going to post a lot of negative. WIht one poster in this thread he got mad at me because I post so much if not all negative on Jones. Well what am I supposed to do? I don;t like him as the 6th pick. Yet ofc I want him to do great! I get the feeling the OP and some others on here misconstrue that just because we don't like a a move we want the entire ship to sink.

And if agree with the media regarding DG -- you think I want them to stop and also you think I'm (I'm speaking for others who didn;t like the Jones pick) going to post pro-Jones posts? And I'm supposed to put "imo" on every following post to appease posters who dont like so much negative?
RE: RE: Does it make you laugh when Certain people get hired  
Greg from LI : 4/30/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14409718 Bernie said:
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Pretty sure Gettleman helped build the 2007 & 2011 Super Bowl champion teams as well as building the Carolina team that went to the Super Bowl. But believe what you want.


hahahahaha....yeah, he "built" the 2015 Panthers the same way a guy who hangs the front door on a completed house "built" the house.
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crick n NC : 4/30/2019 9:43 am : link
You don't have to do anything. As people we may have suggestions for others, just like some may have suggestions for us. There isn't any "have to". I suggested something to Aj (who handled it well), Googs suggested something to me. Not a big deal.
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Jimmy Googs : 4/30/2019 1:12 pm : link
good take...
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