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Explain 2 Things

Samiam : 4/26/2019 9:19 am
Not a fan of the college game plus it’s hard on tv to focus on a single player.

First, how do you completely discount Gil Brandt’s comparing Jones to Peyton Manning, not Eli. Said before the draft. I know people will conjure up where Brandt liked other players who didnt make it but that’s some compliment.

Second, if Allen is the 2nd coming, why did Gruden and Mayock take Ferrell instead? Both are good personnel people.

I know the Giants need a pass rusher badly but they need a young QB also and what is the more important position?
Isn't Brandt like 90?  
BestFeature : 4/26/2019 9:20 am : link
I don't know if we should take what he says too seriously.
Oliver and Wilkins and Dexter also  
idiotsavant : 4/26/2019 9:22 am : link
Not just Allen.
And an OT  
idiotsavant : 4/26/2019 9:22 am : link
By the way
Ferrell v. Allen  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
Gruden runs a 4-3 scheme and there is some debate about whether Allen is big enough to play DE in that scheme. It has been done by players like Olivier Vernon, but Ferrell is a bit larger and stouter in the run game. He is no slouch as a pass rusher, but I don't think he has Allen's upside in that area. Ferrell reminded me of Kenny Holmes. Let's not forget, that in his prime he actually did produce some decent sack totals in addition to being solid in the running game.
They wanted a 4-3 end  
jeff57 : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
Allen’s a 3-4 or 4-3 OLB
Funny, I thought the same thing.  
barens : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
Listening to some of the experts before the draft like Jerramiah and a few other discussing him, they mentioned him as someone who's not going to be a top tier rusher like Von Miller or Joey Bosa, or a few others, but a solid player. Didn't exactly get you super excited.
RE: Isn't Brandt like 90?  
jvm52106 : 4/26/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14409697 BestFeature said:
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I don't know if we should take what he says too seriously.


Wow, seriously. Because many other NFL people sure do.
Chris Simms Hated the Pick  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2019 9:24 am : link
This makes me think we got a steal.

An Edge Rusher Would Have Been Nice,  
OntheRoad : 4/26/2019 9:35 am : link
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if Allen is the 2nd coming, why did Gruden and Mayock take Ferrell instead?



but pass rushers picked in the Top 10 have a higher bust rate than almost any other position. I would rather trust DG's judgment unless he has a conviction.
RE: Chris Simms Hated the Pick  
Toth029 : 4/26/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14409741 Capt. Don said:
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This makes me think we got a steal.

Simms thought Josh Allen wasn't a top 10 pick either.

Though he is an odd fit at DE.
Brandt Didn't Say Jones Was As Talented As Peyton Manning  
BlueVinnie : 4/26/2019 9:47 am : link
Here is the quote:
“I. Love. Dan Jones,” Brandt said. “I have to say this carefully: When you watch him and you go back (20) years and watch Peyton Manning, you are watching the same guy. He’s athletic. He doesn’t have a rocket for an arm, but neither did Peyton. Very smart.”

Nowhere does he say that Jones has the potential or is as talented as Peyton. He's just saying there are similarities in terms of there intelligence and arm strength. The fact that he begins his comments with "I have to say this carefully" is telling you he's not saying he is the next Peyton.

Vinnie  
Samiam : 4/26/2019 11:01 am : link
He compared Jones to Peyton ;didn’t say the next Peyton. But he compared him favorably which is a huge compliment in my opinion
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