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DG did what he said - 2 D starters and a future QB to sit

PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 9:25 am
This is a really good draft. We got a dominant DT, a shutdown corner, and our future QB. According to SY we got the the #2 QB, #2 DT, and #2 CB.

For all you bitching about value, does it really matter if we picked Lawrence then Jones, rather than Jones then Lawrence? Lets be honest, Jones and Lawrence have just as much a chance to be All-Pro's as Haskins and Allen, in fact I like them better. So did DG.

We filled all the positions people wanted to get (so far) with top players. So the "flavor" may not be what some of you youtube experts wanted, so what. These are top players in a pretty strong draft.
Love the defensive picks  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2019 9:27 am : link
Jones...we will see. Let's pray that Jones is more Eli and less Tannehill.
it was 2/3 of a good first round  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2019 9:28 am : link
Better than nothing, I guess.
Well said.... would Tom Brady not been "valued" if he was picked  
No Where Man : 4/26/2019 9:28 am : link
in the first round? Would he have been a "reach?". Let's just be happy we got our guys and hope that we could secure a few more good players.
Still need a pass rusher or this defense is still broken.  
Brown Recluse : 4/26/2019 9:28 am : link
Hoping they address this somehow tonight.
RE: Still need a pass rusher or this defense is still broken.  
UConn4523 : 4/26/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14409766 Brown Recluse said:
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Hoping they address this somehow tonight.


I do too. Keep in mind that this is a longterm thing he's trying to build. We also have a ton of cap in 2020 and possibly another high pick. We will get pass rushers.
3 D starters if you count  
Beer Man : 4/26/2019 9:30 am : link
Sam Beal from the supplemental draft
RE: 3 D starters if you count  
cjac : 4/26/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14409778 Beer Man said:
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Sam Beal from the supplemental draft


The defensive backfield has me excited right now. By passing on Allen they are putting a lot on Lorenzo Carter taking it to the next level
We need  
Beer Man : 4/26/2019 9:32 am : link
Pass Rushers and OL help today. Hopefully they can make a move otherwise the team will watch over 60 players drop off the board before they pick again.
Ejac you are correct...  
No Where Man : 4/26/2019 9:35 am : link
Peppers
Beal
Baker
Grant
Chandler

Some good young players there that can grow together as a unit.
Our secondary will be much, much better  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 9:36 am : link
as will our run D. Excellent picks IMO. Jones/Haskins/Lock, its a crap shoot and the Giants picked their guy. Isn't that what we want? Who here knows Jones won't be the best of the bunch?
According to Sy's rankings  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2019 9:41 am : link
We have Sy's:
4th (T) 85
11th (T) 83
27th (T) 80

Overall ranked players.

85 = immediate Starter, franchise player
80-84 = First round talent, starter
RE: 3 D starters if you count  
Bill in UT : 4/26/2019 9:42 am : link
In comment 14409778 Beer Man said:
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Sam Beal from the supplemental draft


How do you count both Beal and Baker as starters? Is Jenkins going to the bench, to the slot or getting traded? The likelihood is that one of the 2 young guys will be on the bench this year.
My disappointment with Jones...  
x meadowlander : 4/26/2019 9:47 am : link
...is that I was hoping for a more dynamic QB as Eli's successor.

Instead, I'm immediately tortured with Dave Brown flashbacks.

Brown 6'6"
Jones 6'5"

Brown Duke QBR 120
Jones Duke QBR 122

I'm REALLY hoping that extra 2 translates to about a 500 times better QB than Dave Brown.

Brown #17
Jones - I'm not superstitious, but for the love of God, please don't pick 17.
RE: RE: 3 D starters if you count  
Beer Man : 4/26/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14409874 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14409778 Beer Man said:


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Sam Beal from the supplemental draft



How do you count both Beal and Baker as starters? Is Jenkins going to the bench, to the slot or getting traded? The likelihood is that one of the 2 young guys will be on the bench this year.
If on the team and healthy, all three will be contributing and probably starting next year. Plus, I believe Jackrabbit will be in the final year of his contract.
RE: RE: 3 D starters if you count  
x meadowlander : 4/26/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14409874 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14409778 Beer Man said:


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Sam Beal from the supplemental draft



How do you count both Beal and Baker as starters? Is Jenkins going to the bench, to the slot or getting traded? The likelihood is that one of the 2 young guys will be on the bench this year.
Slot corner is considered a starting position by many of us.
DGs done a pretty good job rebuilding the rest of the team  
mfsd : 4/26/2019 9:51 am : link
But he was always going to be judged on the Eli transition. He’s gone all in on Jones, only time will tell if he got it right.

I love the Lawrence pick, don’t know enough about Baker but I’m glad they’re going defense outside Jones
Teams go to 3 corners more times than not now  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 9:51 am : link
All 3 will be on the field a lot.
Allen, Lawrence, Baker  
GothamGiants : 4/26/2019 9:53 am : link
I understand the obsession with “franchise QB” ... but this defense could’ve transformed overnight from a liability to strength
Pass rush  
GothamGiants : 4/26/2019 9:54 am : link
Maybe they’ll just blitz every play now that they have safeties that can cover and some talent at CB
I like Lawrence & Baker  
Rong5611 : 4/26/2019 9:54 am : link
They could both start this year. Creates competition at both spots. Our secondary is looking better - Jackrabbit, Beal, Baker, Peppers, Bethea. Grant Haley looked good in the slot.

Jones, hoping DG is right.
I want to point out  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/26/2019 9:59 am : link
that Sy said there were some intangables with Jones that he couldn't evaluate -- and that if those intangables were present that Jones graded much much higher than the grade he gave him.
DG doesn't bullshit  
AcesUp : 4/26/2019 10:01 am : link
He does say a lot but somewhere in there he tells you exactly what he's going to do.
Run the ball  
WillVAB : 4/26/2019 10:02 am : link
Stop the run, and rush the passer. That’s been DG’s mantra.

The Giants spent 5 picks and only got one player who fits that criteria.
Patterson  
Lines of Scrimmage : 4/26/2019 10:13 am : link
Wrong or right....DG wants this team to be tough again with a QB of the future. For far to long teams enjoyed playing us....I think all his moves show his commitment to win or lose there is a price to pay.

Time will tell as always
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