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I'm pysched about this draft

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 10:03 am
(1) The Giants drafted the QB that THEY wanted. Time will tell, but they finally bit the bullet and made the most important decision they needed to make in the rebuild process.

(2) Long-time BBIers know I love big, strong, run-stuffing defensive tackles. Lawrence is like getting Ngata or Wilfork.

(3) The CB situation on this team was dreadful. The Giants drafted their #1 rated CB.


Go pound sand if you don't like it! (This is said with love).
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RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 4/26/2019 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14411314 Eric from BBI said:
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No one is saying you can't criticize. I criticize the Giants all of the time. And I get slammed for doing so.

But you guys are not thinking logically. You seem to want to both draft Eli's replacement and the stud at #6. The Giants didn't think that was an option. They felt Denver or Washington (with a trade) would have nabbed Jones.


I get it man. Daniel Jones isn’t even in the same breath as the top QB’s in next years draft. And if we aren’t lying to ourselves, we know that the Giants will be in the top 15 again next year in position to draft a superior talent. That’s my gripe. Is what it is. What can you do.
RE: Greg/bw  
bw in dc : 4/26/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14411269 Eric from BBI said:
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Who was your QB then?

You guys bitch about the QB situation. The Giants addressed it. You don't like the guy, but they do.


I'd like to think everyone is concerned about the Eli transition.

For QB, not anybody at #6 this year, but especially Jones. Again, it's about value and managing the draft correctly.

Eli is the QB for at least this year. Right? So what helps the team more at #6 to help us/Eli win this year or next? A top level pass rusher or a QB prospect who is, IMV, more project than guarantee. Or top level LB? Or the QB? Another OL? Or the QB?

I'm all ears if you can rationally explain why a project who will likely wait 1,2 or even 3 years is better for the team than any of those position needs I listed...
For this year? Yes, stick with the QBs they have  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2019 1:55 pm : link
The Giants are going nowhere in 2019 anyway, so it wouldn't make any difference to me.

Jon mentioned it in another thread - if everything had played out the same only with Allen taken at 6 rather than Jones, I doubt many people would be griping about the draft because we'd see the nucleus of a damned good defense taking shape, filling holes at multiple positions.

Those people applauding the pick - do you think Jones will ever be an All-Pro, or even a Pro Bowl QB? Will he ever be considered one of the top 5 QBs in the league? Do you think he can carry an offense to a Super Bowl? If your reaction to those questions isn't an unequivocal "yes", then don't use the #6 overall pick on that guy.
Bill  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 1:56 pm : link
Sure. But it doesn’t automatically mean the experts and fans are wrong and the Giants are right.

If they were always right we wouldn’t be in the position we are in. Time will tell.
RE: RE: BBI in a nutshell:  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14411341 jlukes said:
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But Greg saw him play that one time live in 2017. I think that gives his opinion of Jones plenty of clout


That's more than 99% of the cheerleaders on here waving their pom-poms over Jones have watched him play, isn't it?

And, again since the pep squad hasn't wanted to face this fact - there are two actual, professional football scouts who contribute here. One of them, Dave, outright didn't like Jones. The other, Sy, was tepid in his evaluation and said that he would pass on him at #6. So stop with the canard that "hurrrrr only dorks who watched a YouTube video think Jones isn't that good"
What's really happeniing here  
Bill L : 4/26/2019 1:58 pm : link
is that people decided..for whatever reason...that this was their guy. For many it was a QB (and much of that was *absolutely* borne of we need a QB just to have a QB (if talent or value was at issue, they would have counseled waiting for any one of 4 coming out next year). For some others, including myself, it was a stud DL guy.

Having come to that decision, people became emotionally wed to a specific player and any choice other than that player simply was wrong. The pick of Jones is decried not because of talent but because our own egos can't handle disagreement without seeing it as a personal affront.
RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14411347 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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In comment 14411314 Eric from BBI said:


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No one is saying you can't criticize. I criticize the Giants all of the time. And I get slammed for doing so.

But you guys are not thinking logically. You seem to want to both draft Eli's replacement and the stud at #6. The Giants didn't think that was an option. They felt Denver or Washington (with a trade) would have nabbed Jones.



I get it man. Daniel Jones isn’t even in the same breath as the top QB’s in next years draft. And if we aren’t lying to ourselves, we know that the Giants will be in the top 15 again next year in position to draft a superior talent. That’s my gripe. Is what it is. What can you do.


Taking Haskins and Lock out of the equation. They did exactly what the anti QB crowd last year pounded the table about. Taking a lesser QB with better ones on the horizon.

If Jones doesn’t work out AND the Giants up toward the top 5 of the next two drafts and can’t take Tua or Lawrence because of Jones that could potentially be disastrous.
RE: Bill  
Bill L : 4/26/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14411369 ajr2456 said:
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Sure. But it doesn’t automatically mean the experts and fans are wrong and the Giants are right.

If they were always right we wouldn’t be in the position we are in. Time will tell.


I don't know automatically. But there's probably a >99% chance.
pjcas18  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 2:00 pm : link
We don't have enough of a pass rush. We have more holes than picks.

Why can't folks accept this?
RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
dep026 : 4/26/2019 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14411391 ajr2456 said:
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If Jones doesn’t work out AND the Giants up toward the top 5 of the next two drafts and can’t take Tua or Lawrence because of Jones that could potentially be disastrous.


Or do what Arizona did, right?
I’m very happy today too  
5BowlsSoon : 4/26/2019 2:01 pm : link
But I do have one question.....why not MONTEZ SWEAT at 17?
RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
Bill L : 4/26/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14411347 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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No one is saying you can't criticize. I criticize the Giants all of the time. And I get slammed for doing so.

But you guys are not thinking logically. You seem to want to both draft Eli's replacement and the stud at #6. The Giants didn't think that was an option. They felt Denver or Washington (with a trade) would have nabbed Jones.



I get it man. Daniel Jones isn’t even in the same breath as the top QB’s in next years draft. And if we aren’t lying to ourselves, we know that the Giants will be in the top 15 again next year in position to draft a superior talent. That’s my gripe. Is what it is. What can you do.


I agree wholeheartedly here. That's my disappointment; I wanted the better 2020 guy.

But it's done and, being an adult, I can move on and support their choice.
Gettleman  
weaverpsu : 4/26/2019 2:02 pm : link
"We don't draft for need" He explains that is why they picked Saquon last year. Really? So you are telling me Jones was the 6th best player in the entire draft? Hahahahaha.

Jones needs to be better than Darnold because the Giants passed on him. No one can tell me Darnold wasn't a better recruit than Jones. They must see a potential in Jones that no one else can see.
RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14411347 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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No one is saying you can't criticize. I criticize the Giants all of the time. And I get slammed for doing so.

But you guys are not thinking logically. You seem to want to both draft Eli's replacement and the stud at #6. The Giants didn't think that was an option. They felt Denver or Washington (with a trade) would have nabbed Jones.



I get it man. Daniel Jones isn’t even in the same breath as the top QB’s in next years draft. And if we aren’t lying to ourselves, we know that the Giants will be in the top 15 again next year in position to draft a superior talent. That’s my gripe. Is what it is. What can you do.


But thats it, you don't know Jones isn't going to be good. Its you opinion I guess, but the experts the Giants have had a different opinion. You can't state Jones stinks as a fact.
RE: I’m very happy today too  
Bill L : 4/26/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14411400 5BowlsSoon said:
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But I do have one question.....why not MONTEZ SWEAT at 17?


I don't know their reasoning but his heart took him completely off my board (same for Murray (baseball) and Rosen (CTE).
The pick of Jones is decried because I have no idea what they see  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2019 2:03 pm : link
that makes them so utterly convinced that this guy is a future star NFL QB. It's literally a baffling pick to me because I've seen him play multiple games and never once thought that I was watching a special QB. You watch other QBs and, even if you have concerns and spot flaws, you might think to yourself "Well, I can see why he might have big time potential". With Jones, never had that feeling and was shocked that his name started being thrown about as a potential high first round pick.
RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
Greg from LI : 4/26/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14411407 PatersonPlank said:
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But thats it, you don't know Jones isn't going to be good. Its you opinion I guess, but the experts the Giants have had a different opinion. You can't state Jones stinks as a fact.


And you don't know that he IS going to be good. You can't state that Jones is a franchise QB as a fact.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
bigbluehoya : 4/26/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14411399 dep026 said:
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If Jones doesn’t work out AND the Giants up toward the top 5 of the next two drafts and can’t take Tua or Lawrence because of Jones that could potentially be disastrous.



Or do what Arizona did, right?


the thing is, according to what is believed to be the plan by most everyone, NYG are going to have no idea whether or not Jones panned out by the time they are deciding on Tua/Fromm.

For all intents and purposes, it seems they've punted on the very strong QB class of 2020. would you disagree with that?

This is a big part of my problem with the overall approach.
RE: I’m very happy today too  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14411400 5BowlsSoon said:
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But I do have one question.....why not MONTEZ SWEAT at 17?


Because they had Dexter Lawrence rated higher, as many did.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14411399 dep026 said:
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If Jones doesn’t work out AND the Giants up toward the top 5 of the next two drafts and can’t take Tua or Lawrence because of Jones that could potentially be disastrous.



Or do what Arizona did, right?


What if Jones works out, like Trubisky for example? Then it was a brilliant decision. You, and I, dont know. SO why state things like "Jones sucks" or "Jones won't be a good NFL QB" as fact.
RE: pjcas18  
pjcas18 : 4/26/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14411395 Eric from BBI said:
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We don't have enough of a pass rush. We have more holes than picks.

Why can't folks accept this?


I accept it. I just don't see how Lawrence helps fill a hole. And I'm not about to jump off the ledge or anything, I'm completely rational about it, just I'm not jumping in drinking the kool-aid, need to be shown how the approach will help.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14411399 dep026 said:
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In comment 14411391 ajr2456 said:


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If Jones doesn’t work out AND the Giants up toward the top 5 of the next two drafts and can’t take Tua or Lawrence because of Jones that could potentially be disastrous.



Or do what Arizona did, right?


Doing what Arizona isn’t a good way to do business.
RE: pjcas18  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/26/2019 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14411395 Eric from BBI said:
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We don't have enough of a pass rush. We have more holes than picks.

Why can't folks accept this?


I think that's why most are upset with this pick. They saw one of the best defenders fall to us at #6 and we over drafted a QB at the pick. I actually think most would have understood if we didn't draft a QB this year and just picked BPA across the board.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2019 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14411417 Greg from LI said:
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But thats it, you don't know Jones isn't going to be good. Its you opinion I guess, but the experts the Giants have had a different opinion. You can't state Jones stinks as a fact.



And you don't know that he IS going to be good. You can't state that Jones is a franchise QB as a fact.


Exactly my point. So we all agreed (or most of us) that we needed to take a top QB and we did. After that who knows if your preference is better than mine. We don't know, so I'm just happy the Giants picked a top QB. They have people paid to analyze these things, and they felt strong enough about this guy to pull the trigger at #6. I'm good, lets see what happens.
pjcas  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 2:06 pm : link
We'll disagree with each there. I saw MAJOR wholes on the DL, LB/edge, CB, and safety on defense.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 2:06 pm : link
holes
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
dep026 : 4/26/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14411417 Greg from LI said:
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But thats it, you don't know Jones isn't going to be good. Its you opinion I guess, but the experts the Giants have had a different opinion. You can't state Jones stinks as a fact.



And you don't know that he IS going to be good. You can't state that Jones is a franchise QB as a fact.


But you definitively state he wont be good? That doesnt make much sense
BigBlueDownTheShore  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 2:07 pm : link
With three first round picks, if we didn't draft a QB last night, BBI would be equally pissed right now.
Steve Serby and Mike Francesa both trashed the Jones pick  
mfsd : 4/26/2019 2:08 pm : link
I’m getting more confident they made the right choice
RE: RE: RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 4/26/2019 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14411407 PatersonPlank said:
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No one is saying you can't criticize. I criticize the Giants all of the time. And I get slammed for doing so.

But you guys are not thinking logically. You seem to want to both draft Eli's replacement and the stud at #6. The Giants didn't think that was an option. They felt Denver or Washington (with a trade) would have nabbed Jones.



I get it man. Daniel Jones isn’t even in the same breath as the top QB’s in next years draft. And if we aren’t lying to ourselves, we know that the Giants will be in the top 15 again next year in position to draft a superior talent. That’s my gripe. Is what it is. What can you do.



But thats it, you don't know Jones isn't going to be good. Its you opinion I guess, but the experts the Giants have had a different opinion. You can't state Jones stinks as a fact.


What’s up PP? I never said Jones stinks. Or anything close to that. I said that the Giants used a premium pick on an average college QB. I don’t think you will find a soul on Earth that will tell you that Jones is in the same league as a Tua or a Fromm. Because that would be a lie.
RE: RE: pjcas18  
Bill L : 4/26/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14411436 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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We don't have enough of a pass rush. We have more holes than picks.

Why can't folks accept this?



I think that's why most are upset with this pick. They saw one of the best defenders fall to us at #6 and we over drafted a QB at the pick. I actually think most would have understood if we didn't draft a QB this year and just picked BPA across the board.


I don't believe that for a second. Many people suggested that very thing here *before* the draft and were shouted down. Commonly people said that either all the Fromm's and Tua's and Herberts and Easons would suck next year and would no longer be of value or that the giants would be so far away from the top of the draft (but would still suck as a team and lose more than they won because...well, you know....Eli)) that any of 4 guys owld be unreachable by pick or trade.
RE: pjcas  
pjcas18 : 4/26/2019 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14411440 Eric from BBI said:
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We'll disagree with each there. I saw MAJOR wholes on the DL, LB/edge, CB, and safety on defense.


I didn't say there weren't, but isn't there a lot of overlap between Hill, Tomlinson, and Lawrence?

My point is they filled a hole where there was already an option, and these three will be on the field together maybe 20 snaps a game (from what I've read)
RE: I will tell you this  
Bluesbreaker : 4/26/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14410105 Eric from BBI said:
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I've never been more disgusted with Giants fans than I am now. The reaction to Daniel Jones on Twitter is pathetic.

They are treating HIM like he is some sort of war criminal.


Twitter Sucks the big one all it is a constant mud slinging contest and a left wing liberal shit hole . Thanks Jack for giving me the perma- Boot Their time is coming along with the Google Gestapo and Fake Book !
Hopefully we got another Eli with better wheels !
Bettcher seemed  
bc4life : 4/26/2019 4:35 pm : link
thrilled to have Lawrence. Giants were 20th against the run. It's not like all they needed was a pass rusher. If you cannot stop the run - you are not going to stop the pass.

RE: Jones - at best 5 people or less on this site have the knowledge and experience to accurately assess which college QBs will be successful in the NFL. The rest are basically throwing a tantrum because their guy didn't get picked.

Time will tell if Jones is a franchise QB. He's in a very good position sitiing behind a consummate pro and one of the smartest and hardest working QBs in the league.

Today hoping they can find a RT and soem pass rush help.
pjcas18  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 4:43 pm : link
I don't see overlap.

We run a 3-4 defense. We had two quality defensive linemen. Now we have three.

We need to stop the run if we are going to rush the passer.

Last couple of years? We haven't stopped the run well enough.
I have no issue with opinions  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/26/2019 4:49 pm : link
but I'm annoyed by the constant declarations that Jones sucks made by people who aren't really in a position to have that strong of an opinion.

There is never a grey area. Every reaction is over the top, under informed, loud and arrogant...a bad combination.

Did someone say Trubisky in this thread?  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/26/2019 4:52 pm : link
He isn't very well thought of in NFL circles. Actually when he got hurt Vegas barely made an ajustment for Chase Daniels. That being said when you don't need to give up draft picks to take a guy like that it isn't the worst. That is where the Bears went wrong.
My problems with Jones at 6  
jpennyva : 4/26/2019 4:59 pm : link
Even after sleeping on it, I still have a problem with drafting Jones at 6. First, I am an Eli fan and was not one who thought they needed to find the new franchise QB in this draft, especially since it wasn't a good draft for QBs. I also think DG was full of shit with his whole Best Player Available shtick because Jones was certainly not the best player available and the BLA on the board was one who I believe could fill a big need for the Giants. I will no longer believe any crap they try to feed the media or fans ahead of the draft but it was my own fault for buying into it in the first place. That said, we obviously don't know where the Giants will be in the first round next year and may not, though I have my doubts, be in a position to draft one of the top QBs anyway. With what I have read thus far, I am not overly impressed with Jones but I also wasn't excited about any of the QBs in the draft (I would have preferred that they work on a trade for Rosen). What's done is done and I will just temper my expectations.
RE: pjcas18  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2019 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14412252 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't see overlap.

We run a 3-4 defense. We had two quality defensive linemen. Now we have three.

We need to stop the run if we are going to rush the passer.

Last couple of years? We haven't stopped the run well enough.


2 other things people overlook:

(1) The fastest path is a straight line; and
(2) QB's hate pressure in their face

Lawrence is a one-man wrecking crew in the middle. His presence will give more of a chance for our edge guys to get to the QB. We were beat too often because QB's were not knocked off their spot and could step up in the pocket to throw. Not doing that with Lawrence at NT.
Mike in NY  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2019 5:04 pm : link
Good point.
Cannot wait to hear Bettcher's comments  
bc4life : 4/26/2019 5:05 pm : link
about Lawrence, and how he will use him and Tomlinson. People are right too be confused as they did say Tomlinson was best suited at NT. Although, I'm not sure I remember hearing that from Bettcher
I just have a bunch of issues  
Jan in DC : 4/26/2019 5:07 pm : link
with the draft. It's not like I'm not going to root for the guys that are selected. I'm a fan, but I come here to voice my opinion. And pound salt apparently.

My thought is, if they're really feeling like Eli is the guy, he can still do it etc etc, then wait until next year to draft a QB. I'd rather fill holes around the team, and if he actually CAN still do it, you're setting the team up for long term success. Most young QBs come in and play right away anyways, so what's the difference? I don't think there is one honestly.

I would have preferred to either trade for Rosen, or waited till next year and use most of the draft on addressing the defense. We've really concentrated on the offense and neglected the defense. We had the opportunity to draft an elite edge rusher. Now the closest we'll get to that is a guy at the end of Round 3.

Again, I'm going to root for them to win and succeed. I would like there to be consequences for failing.
I Wonder If BBI Was Around  
pa_giant_fan : 4/26/2019 5:08 pm : link
In 1979 when Phil Simms (who) was Drafted 7th overall and if there was social media then, what the reaction would have been. As fans we never know how a draft pick pans out. Most of us were wrong then and hope probably wrong again
RE: RE: RE: RE: Say it with hate!  
BMac : 4/26/2019 5:11 pm : link
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I dont get reactions that basically puts a fan in a position to root against the team/player. But we have many "fans" who do this.




Yea, people who don’t like the moves must be rooting for them to fail.



Posters like yourself rather be right than wrong. Ill give the_boss credit for at least saying he woill take the heat if Jones turns out to be the right guy.



"I’d be able to stop selling spare tickets below cost or to Cowboy fans."


Not a very bright thing to say on a Giants fan site.
RE: I just have a bunch of issues  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14412346 Jan in DC said:
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with the draft. It's not like I'm not going to root for the guys that are selected. I'm a fan, but I come here to voice my opinion. And pound salt apparently.

My thought is, if they're really feeling like Eli is the guy, he can still do it etc etc, then wait until next year to draft a QB. I'd rather fill holes around the team, and if he actually CAN still do it, you're setting the team up for long term success. Most young QBs come in and play right away anyways, so what's the difference? I don't think there is one honestly.

I would have preferred to either trade for Rosen, or waited till next year and use most of the draft on addressing the defense. We've really concentrated on the offense and neglected the defense. We had the opportunity to draft an elite edge rusher. Now the closest we'll get to that is a guy at the end of Round 3.

Again, I'm going to root for them to win and succeed. I would like there to be consequences for failing.


Most young guys play right away, but last year outside of Baker Mayfield, none of the first round QB's improved their team. Every other team that played a rookie QB had a worse draft position in 2019. If Jones proves he is ready that is one thing, but I would rather not put on the added pressure of having to be ready for Week 1 of the Regular Season.
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Klaatu : 4/26/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14410814 Eric from BBI said:
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Eric, love the Lawrence and Baker picks. With Jones, we will just have to wait and see, that is the thing with this pick. A lot of it rides on how good the team is and what Eli is doing. For example...what if we are good this year? Do they extend Eli another year??

Jones - we will see if he turns out to be good, but the weird thing is that there doesn't seem to be any way he gets onto the field in 2019 UNLESS Eli gets hurt or is just laughably bad (which...could happen).

Let's root like hell for the kid



Fans can't have it both ways.

Thursday: "We need a new QB to replace Eli!!!"

Friday: "Why the (blank) did we draft a QB??!!"


And then there were those of us who said, "We don't need to find Eli's replacement this year." There were those of us who still think we can win with Eli, and would have preferred to build a better team around him, and what's more, we were led to believe that the FO felt the same way.
people  
BigBlueCane : 4/26/2019 5:27 pm : link
really need to watch more College Football if they think next year's QB class was going to be leaps and bounds better then this one.
RE: people  
Klaatu : 4/26/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14412417 BigBlueCane said:
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really need to watch more College Football if they think next year's QB class was going to be leaps and bounds better then this one.


But that's the point Sy'56 made when he advocated not drafting a QB this year...that you can find QB's of this caliber available every year.
RE: people  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/26/2019 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14412417 BigBlueCane said:
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really need to watch more College Football if they think next year's QB class was going to be leaps and bounds better then this one.


I watch plenty of college football. It's going to be a lonely platform you're on if you think Tua, Herbert, Fromm, Costello, and possibly Eason aren't going to be seen as vastly more impressive than this QB class from either a physical, performance, or experience standpoint.

There's no Andrew Luck in either group, but I'm not sure how anything other than your personal opinion can support this QB class not being significantly weaker than next year's prospective group.
Love lawrence and deandre baker  
nygiants16 : 4/26/2019 5:57 pm : link
I think they could be 2 young building blocks for a young defense..

As for Jones the only reason i was mad last night was because i wanted allen, but that is not to say i didnt like Jones...

I thi k Jones cam be the future here..
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