(1) The Giants drafted the QB that THEY wanted. Time will tell, but they finally bit the bullet and made the most important decision they needed to make in the rebuild process.
(2) Long-time BBIers know I love big, strong, run-stuffing defensive tackles. Lawrence is like getting Ngata or Wilfork.
(3) The CB situation on this team was dreadful. The Giants drafted their #1 rated CB.
Go pound sand if you don't like it! (This is said with love).
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Enjoy the ride Giants fans...should be fun!
Lots of people like Jones. In fact wasn't Denver, Cincy, and Wash going to grab him?
Jenkins played ok last year, but will play the bulk of next season at 31 and is starting to drop off. Beal hasn't played a snap in the NFL, Grant Haley is a slot only and the rest of depth chart looks more like a practice squad list.
Getting Baker at 30 was damn good value, may wind up being our best round 1 pick.
Yea, people who don’t like the moves must be rooting for them to fail.
Ultimately it's going to be determined by Jones, but we can't make that call until probably 2021/2 at the earliest.
In the interim we add two immediate starters and solidify both the run and pass D.
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I dont get reactions that basically puts a fan in a position to root against the team/player. But we have many "fans" who do this.
Yea, people who don’t like the moves must be rooting for them to fail.
Disliking is not what most have been doing. Hating, calling the front office incompetent or idiots is more what we have seen.
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I dont get reactions that basically puts a fan in a position to root against the team/player. But we have many "fans" who do this.
Yea, people who don’t like the moves must be rooting for them to fail.
Posters like yourself rather be right than wrong. Ill give the_boss credit for at least saying he woill take the heat if Jones turns out to be the right guy.
They are treating HIM like he is some sort of war criminal.
Lawrence has been “my guy” for awhile, lucky he was there at 17 ... I just don’t understand how Allen gets passed at 6.
Baker/Beal; Peppers Bethea; Jenkins - Haley
Allen; Ogletree BJ; Carter
Hill; Lawrence; Tomlinson
That defense is potentially dominant. The secondary will be much improved this year at least.
Happy the Giants jumped in on a QB they believed in.
I was not a gettleman fan and I am still on the fence but he is checking off the boxes through the draft.
They are treating HIM like he is some sort of war criminal.
In fairness, it's not just Giant fans who are like that, every fan is like that.
Take a step back and if you woke up yesterday and someone were to tell you that the Giants took thier #1 QB, #2 DT and #1 CB...we would all be thrilled.
I trust DG in the draft and hope he got this right.
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I dont get reactions that basically puts a fan in a position to root against the team/player. But we have many "fans" who do this.
Yea, people who don’t like the moves must be rooting for them to fail.
Posters like yourself rather be right than wrong. Ill give the_boss credit for at least saying he woill take the heat if Jones turns out to be the right guy.
I’ll gladly eat crow if Jones is good. I’d be able to stop selling spare tickets below cost or to Cowboy fans.
I’d rather the Giants be good than be right, despite what you may think.
The only thing they have left to do is let the kid play. I'll more than happily defer to their scouting and evaluation, but their resource allocation and approach is what I find puzzling.
In a vacuum I don't mind the picks at all. When you add in the fact that they've already promise the starting job for AT LEAST 2019 to a $20M player, I like it a whole lot less.
The Aaron Rodgers / Favre stuff doesn't hold any water for me. He was taken at 24 (which tells you a lot not only about the level of investment, but the state of the team). And by most accounts, Favre didn't invest a shred of interest in Rodgers' development. Rodgers became great of his own talents and efforts. The process by which GB handled it is a footnote.
It's not all about pure QB ability either. Intangibles like toughness and the ability to survive the NY media were major reasons for Eli's success in NY. Ben Roethlisberger has better skills that Eli...but he would have collapsed in NY's glare. The Giants are done with me first players.
The Giants will be able to stop the run and defend the pass. Hopefully they will scheme a pass rush.
I ordered a Rib Eye medium rare, but my waiter delivered an overcooked hamburger instead. I asked him WTF?
He then brought me a double thick pork chop which looked great, but I told him I really wanted that Rib Eye!
He ended up comping me a lovely Baked Alaska for dessert...
But it still didn't make up for the miss on the Rib Eye.
I accept that Jones was the QB they wanted and that he would not have lasted to 17. NFL teams liked him better than the media and the public.
Happy with Lawrence pick. CB is a great need and they got one of the best in this draft. Wish they had gotten an Edge rusher. I would have been very happy with Josh Allen. DG said that Jones and Allen were on the same row of the draft chart. Given that and the QB need it looks better today than last night.
I ordered a Rib Eye medium rare, but my waiter delivered an overcooked hamburger instead. I asked him WTF?
He then brought me a double thick pork chop which looked great, but I told him I really wanted that Rib Eye!
He ended up comping me a lovely Baked Alaska for dessert...
But it still didn't make up for the miss on the Rib Eye.
I guess a lot of folks would have been happy with the pork chop and Baked Alaska.
They are treating HIM like he is some sort of war criminal.
It is unfortunate Eric but in the time of social media and mob mentality people do not think for themselves any more. Couple that with the fact that we haven't won in a few seasons and you get a whole lot of "dumb"
Anyone destroying or celebrating this pick is really off base. The draft is like pulling the arm on a slot machine. I am going to sit here rooting for the jackpot.
The Haskin vs Jones...I hope turns into a longterm debate
Honestly, this probably works out for the best. No one is expecting him to start this year, there is no QB controversy waiting in the wings, Eli has been given the starting role and Jones the student role.
Even if the Giants have a rough start, I don't think anyone will be calling for us to throw Jones to the wolves. He will have an opportunity to learn and improve and then shut us all up.
One could argue they did worse. But yeah, they did well.
We'll see.
That's my one qualm with this whole thing.
I'm a Daniel Jones fan now. Daniel Jeremiah said his pro day was nearly flawless. Matt Lombardo was "blown away" by his arm strength. Jenny Ventras says the pros valued him much more than the sports media. And Bob Pappa and others think the Broncos would have taken him at 10.
Two first round picks for defense will help a lot but we still need to hit on a couple other picks.
I do too, but for completely opposite reasons
They are treating HIM like he is some sort of war criminal.
And I agree with you - I actually feel bad for Jones.
Some of these fans are really fucking shitty.
Don't like him? That's fine - at least give him a chance before cursing him out and treating him like he ruined the entire franchise before taking one snap.
It's pathetic.