I know its the Ringer but some very valid points:
It is hard to emphasize how bad of a pick this was. Virtually every talent evaluator agrees that Jones was not the second-best quarterback in the draft. Our expert Danny Kelly included Jones in his top 100 big board… at no. 100, making him a late-third-round or early-fourth-round prospect. The Draft Network had him at no. 99. Pro Football Focus had him at no. 70. SB Nation’s Dan Kadar had him at no. 73. Kinder analysts had him in the top 50, or even the top 32. I didn’t see any prospect rankings that considered him one of the best 20 players in the draft. |
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The NFL has spoken. Jones was the 6th pick in the draft. And now the amateurs who had it wrong are crying and saying they know more.
This is really getting pathetic.
The NFL has spoken. Jones was the 6th pick in the draft. And now the amateurs who had it wrong are crying and saying they know more.
This is really getting pathetic.
The point of the article is that no draft review had Daniel Jones anywhere near number 6. Not the Draft Network, not PFF, not Kinder. No one.
Now, could they all be wrong, but our front office be right? Of course!
But what are the odds?
Football Outsiders put it best. "The Giants finally drafted the replacement for Davis Webb."
Agree 100%. Their NBA content is great. I don't mind Mays, but Kevin Clark...he's up there with Leonard for me. A total tool.
It just seems like there is so much for this kid to overcome to make the pick worth it. And stop with the take him at #17. They obviously liked him a ton. If you wait to 17 on a QB you like that much, that is idiotic.
Man IMO DG could have crushed this draft...
J. Williams
Lawrence
Trade up for Sweat
Or swap taking Allen at 6 and Ford/Taylor trading back into the first
Again, the real pros have spoken. He went #6 and other teams were interested. And guys like Brandt, Kiwan etc didn't bat an eye lash. Also add David Shaw the HC of Stanford to the list. Said Jones is a great fit in NY and "he could be a really good player in a year". Thought is was a great pick.
So honestly, who gives a sh#t what amateur draft sites think now? They had minor utility before the draft, now they are useless. And of course angry they had it wrong and still unwilling to concede they don't know as much as the NFL does. It really is pathetic.
You know, longtime professional scout and GM Jerry Reese. WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION JERRY REESE'S DECISIONS, PEONS?
Again, the real pros have spoken. He went #6 and other teams were interested. And guys like Brandt, Kiwan etc didn't bat an eye lash. Also add David Shaw the HC of Stanford to the list. Said Jones is a great fit in NY and "he could be a really good player in a year". Thought is was a great pick.
So honestly, who gives a sh#t what amateur draft sites think now? They had minor utility before the draft, now they are useless. And of course angry they had it wrong and still unwilling to concede they don't know as much as the NFL does. It really is pathetic.
And we'll see who's right, won't we? Too bad if our front office is wrong and everyone else who covers the draft is right our team will have been set back 3 or 4 years.
And it’s okay for members of the Giants community to not like it. It’s okay if you do like it. It’s okay for us all to not agree. We don’t need more “OMG i can’t believe this site, I can’t believe these posters”.
We all are humans with fucking opinions. This is a forum. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OPINIONS!! Quit bashing posters because their opinion is different than yours. We have a shitty football team. We all want to not have a shitty football team.
Let’s respect each other and get ready to roll.
You know, longtime professional scout and GM Jerry Reese. WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION JERRY REESE'S DECISIONS, PEONS?
Yeah, it’s the same thing again. Then they’ll be dumping on Gettleman after he gets the axe.
It's going to be a good test to see how accurate their hypothesis is in comparison.
This is a huge Gut over Data decision, as the majority of QBs have massively higher numbers in the college compared to the NFL.
And it’s okay for members of the Giants community to not like it. It’s okay if you do like it. It’s okay for us all to not agree. We don’t need more “OMG i can’t believe this site, I can’t believe these posters”.
We all are humans with fucking opinions. This is a forum. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OPINIONS!! Quit bashing posters because their opinion is different than yours. We have a shitty football team. We all want to not have a shitty football team.
Let’s respect each other and get ready to roll.
We reached according to who?
Again - most respected NFL people who are actually NFL people don't seem to think that at all. It's unreal who people choose to listen to.
If other teams had Jones higher than most "internet experts" thought than I tend to trust the NFL scouts instead of talking heads who try and make money from projecting picks from the sidelines.
Finding Eli's eventual replacement was a priority and Jones is who they had a strong conviction about, and they got him. That part of it is a success and now we have to wait and see if it plays out like they believe it will. We are entering an exciting era of NY Giants history. As fans we might as well try and enjoy it.
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We reached. Won’t know for about 2 years if it was a good reach or a shitty one. But the consensus by 99% of people that actually analyze this sport for a living is that we reached.
And it’s okay for members of the Giants community to not like it. It’s okay if you do like it. It’s okay for us all to not agree. We don’t need more “OMG i can’t believe this site, I can’t believe these posters”.
We all are humans with fucking opinions. This is a forum. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OPINIONS!! Quit bashing posters because their opinion is different than yours. We have a shitty football team. We all want to not have a shitty football team.
Let’s respect each other and get ready to roll.
We reached according to who?
Again - most respected NFL people who are actually NFL people don't seem to think that at all. It's unreal who people choose to listen to.
Who are all these NFL people you are talking about? I've seen speculation that someone like Denver or Washington was looking at him. Do we know that's true?
Other than Brandt, who's first pick was Bronco Nagursky and Cutliffe, who's reputation rides on the players he coached, who said he's going to be good? Who was willing to stake their reputation on it?
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We reached. Won’t know for about 2 years if it was a good reach or a shitty one. But the consensus by 99% of people that actually analyze this sport for a living is that we reached.
And it’s okay for members of the Giants community to not like it. It’s okay if you do like it. It’s okay for us all to not agree. We don’t need more “OMG i can’t believe this site, I can’t believe these posters”.
We all are humans with fucking opinions. This is a forum. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OPINIONS!! Quit bashing posters because their opinion is different than yours. We have a shitty football team. We all want to not have a shitty football team.
Let’s respect each other and get ready to roll.
We reached according to who?
Again - most respected NFL people who are actually NFL people don't seem to think that at all. It's unreal who people choose to listen to.
“It’s unreal” huh? Jesus. How about you show me one website on the entire internet that lauded the #6 pick in the draft. It was universally panned by every single publication I’ve seen. SI, ESPN, FOX, CBS, NYT, NYP, I can do this all day. Yes, there were a COUPLE analysts that said that they like Jones and we can’t judge the pick for a few years (true)... doesn’t change the fact that the world view is that we reached. Hard.
We will be drafting another QB sooner rather than later.