Kim Jones on WFAN

Like Baker, she interviewed him and he's very confident, which you like at CB.

Lawrence is not a "two down DT". People must do a quick good search, see his size, and assume run-stuffing fat ass.

This guy is going to be a monster - and a big reason why they can pull off an upset in dallas week 1.

She’s still highly scorned about Beckham getting traded. She has it out for the Giants this year.

that the major career-ender for Nicks was not the foot. What does it take to do just a little homework, especially with all of today’s available sources?

...but is surprised they took a player that profiles as Snacks, and not an explosive playmaker. Because they don't have that guy on their roster.

In comment 14410685 Big Blue '56 said:

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that the major career-ender for Nicks was not the foot. What does it take to do just a little homework, especially with all of today’s available sources?

I'm listening st work and this is exactly what I said

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Was finished because of compartment syndrome I thought. Nicks' injuries weren't anything out of the ordinary.

Lawrence had more career sacks in college than Rashaan Gary...

10 vs 9.5

Now I’m concerned based on that foot injury nugget.

In comment 14410681 GothamGiants said:

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Lawrence is not a "two down DT". People must do a quick good search, see his size, and assume run-stuffing fat ass. This guy is going to be a monster - and a big reason why they can pull off an upset in dallas week 1.

Hes 340, and he came off the field for pass rushing specialists. It's not exactly a hard assumption to make.

and going a little overboard with he injury stuff to Lawrence. She of course forgets to mention that in Lawrence's most recent season he played 13 games and started every single game aside from the playoffs where he was suspended. He missed 2 games in his college career. In his last game at Clemson, he had a sack and 2.5 TFL. He really is not injured right now. 2017 is where he had the foot issue.

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She’s still highly scorned about Beckham getting traded. She has it out for the Giants this year.

Her attachment to Beckham has been bizarre, quite honestly.

It's totally out of character for her.

Snacks was an All-Pro caliber DT. He's older and has some injury issues now, but a young version of Snacks sounds damned good to me.

She is just really upset with the way the giants have done business lately which could lead her to be more harsh than normal.

in the Gettleman presser....Getts said the foot injury has checked out and it's fine. He also said maybe the foot injury was a factor in him not getting the sacks when she pointed that out....nothing to see here.

one could certainly argue Lawrence was a steal at 17 and the best guy available...he's arguably more talented than his teammate who went 13th. Almost everyone loves this pick for the Giants, including the fans

on ESPN gush about Lawrence.
Said he absolutely isn't a 2 down player and can play the 1, 3 and 5 techniques. He coached him for 4 years.....

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Snacks was an All-Pro caliber DT. He's older and has some injury issues now, but a young version of Snacks sounds damned good to me.

This we agree on. If Lawrence comparison is Snacks...isn't that a great thing? He's also much more athletic and a better prospect than Snacks. Seems to have the same motor as well.

but the defense needs players at all levels, and they needed someone that can stop the run and take up bodies to free up pass rushers. That’s not easy to find. There’s more draft left to get some pass rushers.

...because he is not close to the same talent as Mahomes. And the so-called KC model worked because Mahomes is so good.

She says, why not just say it's the Giants model, because that's how they did it with Eli.

Basically, she doesn't like say KC because it puts too much pressure on Jones because it compares him to Mahomes.

is not some one dimensional run stuffing blob. He’s not as explosive and twitchy at DT as Q. Williams but for a man his size, he’s got ability to get to QB also.

He’s more than a two down DT. He’ll still be used in a lot of the pass rush sub packages to help disrupt and get blitzing lanes opened up.

It’s clear to me that, some people didn’t really watch Clemson’s defense closely enough and just stick to generalizations on Lawrence and the fact he’s a big DT.

Jones over Haskins

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...because he is not close to the same talent as Mahomes. And the so-called KC model worked because Mahomes is so good. She says, why not just say it's the Giants model, because that's how they did it with Eli. Basically, she doesn't like say KC because it puts too much pressure on Jones because it compares him to Mahomes.

She’s right. Mahomes has more talent in his little toes than Jones does in his entirety.

during the press conference is going to be a big issue. Because it's 2019.

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Jones over Haskins

Is that supposed to comfort NYG fans skeptical of Jones?

...that could help them win now, and he did that.

up the middle or anything, but I do think he's going to collapse the pocket just fine and not allow QBs to step into throws easily, so he will help the pass rush even if he won't be the one usually getting to the QB.

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In comment 14410734 UConn4523 said: Quote: Jones over Haskins Is that supposed to comfort NYG fans skeptical of Jones?

No but it helps squash the dumb thought Jones would definitely be there at 17

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In comment 14410734 UConn4523 said: Quote: Jones over Haskins Is that supposed to comfort NYG fans skeptical of Jones?

Nope, just looking to piss you off.

I’m you need comfort about a sports team, seek help.

...definitely puts pressure on Eli because it's the first time the Giants have drafted a real heir.

Says Eli is a professional of course and will handle it well.

it’s additional information about why we took Jones at 6. The rumors were Cincy, Miami and Washington looking to trade up and if this information is correct (Kim Jones) then there you go.

they traded her buddy Odell. eric mentioned awhile back how its borderline unprofessional- I agree. Her harshness is transparent and frankly who cares

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during the press conference is going to be a big issue. Because it's 2019.

G’s attitude is going to wear thin fast if it hasn’t already. Condescension and arrogance are only tolerable in winners.

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that the major career-ender for Nicks was not the foot. What does it take to do just a little homework, especially with all of today’s available sources?

Not to mention that a foot or leg injury has different repercussions for a WR than a DL. I like Kim, but this was an odd take.

He is going to collapse the pocket which will prevent QB's from stepping up to avoid the outside rush. He will be like Snacks but with leadership qualities and a good attitude.

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Her attachment to Beckham has been bizarre, quite honestly. It's totally out of character for her.

Their twitter interaction after his trade to CLE was cringe-worthy. Bizarre indeed.

Nuff said

"Rome wasn't built in a day".

I'm guessing she's still pissed at that comment.

EVERY media person said that the

"Giants have to find Eli's replacement in this years draft".

The Giants did that. Now they are all slamming on the Giants for doing it.

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He is going to collapse the pocket which will prevent QB's from stepping up to avoid the outside rush. He will be like Snacks but with leadership qualities and a good attitude.

i would've been fine with lawrence at 6 ... glad hes a giant

but this one is really ticking me off. Pre-draft, the Giants were essentially called fools if they didn't take a QB at 6. They take a QB, and the Media fly off the handle because they passed on their perceived #1 ranked QB.

Kim's interview was nearly cringe worthy, and I love Kim's insight. She, better than any other National reporter, should know that this team has holes across the board. Forget her analysis of the Jones pick, her bashing of the Dexter Lawrence pick was way off base. She can't see the need for a big run stuffer on this team? I'm glad Beningo took her to task.

I have been a Clemson fan for 35 years. He is extremely athletic for a big man. He can play every down. Especially as a nose tackle

I still think it’s a reach for that position, It it goes w the rest of the absolutely bizarre and potentially disastrous draft

He gets his rest on 3rd down. Ideally, the team needs to rotate linemen anyway.

But she’s been really weird with the Giants after the Odell trade.

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during the press conference is going to be a big issue. Because it's 2019.

This. I m sure this soured her on him. She has earned her stripes as an NFL journalist, that was patronizing.

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up the middle or anything, but I do think he's going to collapse the pocket just fine and not allow QBs to step into throws easily, so he will help the pass rush even if he won't be the one usually getting to the QB.

Don't discount Hill paired up with Dex. Hill had 5.5 sacks last season.

In comment 14410701 The_Boss said:

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Now I’m concerned based on that foot injury nugget.

Didn't OBJ have a screw in his ankle?

it odd that anyone would claim that getting another stud DL was not a priority. But many of the sports writers said it last night.

I love our DL now.

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But she’s been really weird with the Giants after the Odell trade.

This. I think OBJ must have given her the pipe on a few occasions.

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on ESPN gush about Lawrence. Said he absolutely isn't a 2 down player and can play the 1, 3 and 5 techniques. He coached him for 4 years.....

Aside from Brian Kelly, what college coach doesn't gush about their players?

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In comment 14410701 The_Boss said: Quote: Now I’m concerned based on that foot injury nugget. Didn't OBJ have a screw in his ankle?

And perhaps one loose in his head.

won both Final Four games without Lawrence. Wilkins was the guy to take at 6. Then if a QB was there later make a deal or wait till next year.

I liked Wilkins more than Lawrence, but how do we know Clemson wouldn't still have won if it were reversed?

Can't just assume that based on an entire team result that one guy is significantly more important than the other.

but that's exactly what he was in college

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during the press conference is going to be a big issue. Because it's 2019.

Women in their 60's call me "dear", "honey", etc. pretty regularly at work... I've yet to slap or publicly shame any of them.