Yesterday is done. Time to talk about Friday & Saturday

won't be a Saturday. Gettleman is going to trade away all of our picks tonight to move up into the third round.

We get to 95?

think theres a good chance we aren't waiting til pick 95. Hitting on 4 of the top 50 or so prospects would go a long, long way in rebuilding this roster.

and edge. I've said I like Bobby Evans at #95 and Jalen Jelks at #108. Maybe a WR late.

and get a mauling RT

Gettleman thinks this is deep draft at a number of positions including secondary, wide receivers, lines.

Is quite a bit more accurate. Most advance stats seem to agree.

'Not a rocket' seems to be a bit of an understatement regarding Jones' arm strength. If you watch him throw out routes on tape it's quite a scary sight.

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Is quite a bit more accurate. Most advance stats seem to agree. 'Not a rocket' seems to be a bit of an understatement regarding Jones' arm strength. If you watch him throw out routes on tape it's quite a scary sight.

Wrong thread

The rest of the draft is for filling in depth. We�re probably done finding a legit contributor. Whatever holes we still have, and they appear to be many, will likely be addressed next offseason. Hoping to fill them with lottery tickets, UDFA�s, and other teams� castoffs is wishful thinking.

1) Speed @ LB
2) Edge
3) OL

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Gettleman thinks this is deep draft at a number of positions including secondary, wide receivers, lines.

He has used a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round pick on 2 cornerbacks.

if it's EE, they better get an offensive weapon. Obviously KL is available as a throw in piece to any trade as he won't get much by himself.

DG�s best work has been about finding hidden gems in the lesser rounds and UDFA

That we trade picks for some players that can contribute.

Players that are bad fits on current team, that can resolve specific issue.

Also, draft a stud punter

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How?

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I would guess that would/might involve next years pick?

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How? That would require trading Engram, or next year's first.

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Would have more ammo to do so if we didn't give away a 4 and a 5 to move up 7 spots.

but logically it could be the case.

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They may need to mortgage a pick next year for that. I�d support it actually. Get a talent you want now and love as you build up and play the draft game next year.

It�s possible Giants are picking top 10-12 picks next year and given they have their QB prospect they possibly can recoup and trade down next year if they have to sacrifice a 2 or 3 next year.

I think WR is the best chance at getting an early contributor at 95.

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No way on the first.

They could bundle a 2 next year and a 4 this year. I could see a team in the back end of the 2nd like the Pats or a few others biting.

on QB Jake Dolegala. I know they have Jones but Dolegala has a great arm and he has a higher upside than Lauletta. Two years as the #3 QB might turn into a steal for the Giants. If not he could be Jones' backup for several years.

likely get a comp three for Collins, so they could possibly trade a third next year, and other assets to get back into the second.

It's pretty clear that Gettleman didn't get all those day three picks to use them. He got them to use as collateral to endlessly trade up. That seems like a bad strategy on a team with so many holes.

In order to move up.

Tomlinson and picks.

Tomlinson being a Reese guy and the NT picked last night. Is Tomlinson appropriate trade bait?

Rd 1 OT talent

for a trade of Engram or JackRabbit

Particularly a 1/2 next year, it will be really hard to understand.

You know it�s gonna be lineman lineman lineman lineman

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Has to be for a player...?

or Tomlinson for that matter.

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or Tomlinson for that matter.

+1 - What would be the net gain if either/both were traded?? Both can contribute.

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Good luck with that. 👍

We need safeties.

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In comment 14410879 JonC said: Quote: . They may need to mortgage a pick next year for that. I�d support it actually. Get a talent you want now and love as you build up and play the draft game next year. It�s possible Giants are picking top 10-12 picks next year and given they have their QB prospect they possibly can recoup and trade down next year if they have to sacrifice a 2 or 3 next year.

In no way, shape, or form do you trade a first next year to make that happen. I assume Jack Rabbit is on the block, and I�m fine moving a guy like him. But the Giants really need to acquire draft equity next year, not deal it away.

Of course, this is the dumbest front office of all time, and I�m not sure Gettleman is even of sound mind, so it wouldn�t shock me to see him give up our first next year in a shortsighted move to get another pick now.

Secondary with next pick and one of the fifth round picks.
OL with fourth and sixth.
Wr with other fifth rounder.
Seventh rounders, BPA.

isn't worth more than a day three pick.

If you want a second round pick you have to trade Engram, or Tomlinson and a pick from 2020, both of which I oppose.

Think he�s more of SS tho.

I've read everything about inconsistency,but the way this guy moves out there,I think it's worth the gamble.

...about the rest of this draft.

We came in desperately needing pass rush and a RT. So far we got a QB who won't dress for a single game, a click better nose than Tomlinson and a good corner who could be a lockdown.

As thrilled as I was last season this season feels like we left a lot on the table.

All of this talent available with no pick until 95 ... better trade up
Let�s hope for a big WR run and the mediocre QBs start going

Jaylon Ferguson in a trade up please?

We will come into 2019 FAR WEAKER than we were in 2018. What we're only interested in having a SINGLE playmaker on the roster and just pound the shit out of him until he is forced to retire in 4-5 years?

Going back to the 1980's style...pound the rock 40 times, limit passes to 15-20 SHORTEN THE GAME and play awesome defense...except this time we have none so SINGLE MISTAKES will cost us games we are able to stay close in.

Really disgusted.

I guess their thinking is that we can get an edge rusher in the lower rounds and maybe he can get a few pressures and get us 5-6 sacks thats awesome.


In comment 14410819 Jim Bur(n)t said:

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1) Speed @ LB 2) Edge 3) OL

Maybe enter the 21st century and figure out how to use him as the focal point of the passing game

Such an underrated talent on this roster. He shines without Beckham - Feature him!

Trade next year�s 2/3 and use all that cap to plug holes next year.

There is legit first round talent just sitting there

(Risner/Ford, Ferguson)

Lorenzo Carter and Markus Golden likely aren't going to cut it.

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...about the rest of this draft. We came in desperately needing pass rush and a RT. So far we got a QB who won't dress for a single game, a click better nose than Tomlinson and a good corner who could be a lockdown. As thrilled as I was last season this season feels like we left a lot on the table.

You�re short selling Lawrence big time and a lockdown CB is crucial to Bettchers scheme.

Hated passing on Allen, but this shit roster has so many holes and they plugged 2 quite nicely last night.

I just hope they don�t trade Engram - it better be for a haul if they do

#95 Jachai Polite OLB, Charles Omenihu DE
#108 Bobby Evans OT, Michael Deiter C/G, Austin Bryant DE
#143 Ben Banogu DE, Carl Granderson, DE
#171 Maxx Crosby DE, Shareef Miller DE
#180 Andrew Van Ginkel OLB, John Cominsky DE, Isaiah Prince
OT
There are plenty of solid developmental guys, at the very least.

Sell everything.just get one. This team is not fun. To watch with this defense.

95. Jalen Jelks, Edge Oregon
108. Bob Evans, OT Oklahoma
143. Drew Sample, TE Washinton
171. Saquon Hampton, FS Rutgers
180. Ty Summers, Ilb TCU
232. Dixon, WR Ohio State
245. Scott, Rb Michigan State