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kelsto811 : 4/26/2019 12:08 pm
Watch Jones' entire game tape vs Notre Dame (2016). Its linked. Yes its one cherry picked game from 3 years ago, but it shows what he's capable of. And does the amount of people doubting this pick not remind you of Eli Manning? This guy is going to be easy and fun to root for.

Then we get Dexter Lawrence who Sy had a great writeup for and mentions his comparison as Haloti Ngata

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*If there is one non-QB I think NYG may be looking at with their 17th pick, it’s Lawrence. He fits the bill with what Gettleman wants up front and the trade of Harrison left that NT role wide open. Lawrence was the piece that made that loaded Clemson front go. I can remember seeing him play as a true freshman and at that moment in time, I said he was ready for the NFL. There is a rare combination of size, speed, and power to go along with more awareness and intelligence than you may think. Big time potential here that can change a defense right away.

NFL Comparison: Haloti Ngata / RET


Then we trade up for a lock down corner who hasn't allowed a TD in 2 full seasons!

Mike Remmers is coming to the Giants.

Now we need to figure out how to trade back up. Still exciting times.
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People  
Mr. Nickels : 4/26/2019 12:15 pm : link
only doubted Eli after he regressed in 2006/2007 after a good 2005 season and he was throwing pick sixes left and right.
Good post  
EJJ : 4/26/2019 12:17 pm : link
Agree. Fans are just bent cause they used the 6 pick on Jones and he isn't a know quantity yet.
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DonnieD89 : 4/26/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14410897 Mr. Nickels said:
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only doubted Eli after he regressed in 2006/2007 after a good 2005 season and he was throwing pick sixes left and right.


And he regressed, because he had a shitty Oline and running game.
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kelsto811 : 4/26/2019 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14410897 Mr. Nickels said:
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only doubted Eli after he regressed in 2006/2007 after a good 2005 season and he was throwing pick sixes left and right.


Eli faced scrutiny from everywhere because of how the draft process played out. He was doubted by the entire NFL and many Giants fans as well. I still remember the video on his SB run of that guy saying "I'll never be good as Peyton wahh"
Jones was a shock for me but trying to understand their reasoning  
Dinger : 4/26/2019 12:23 pm : link
If you like him you don't wait. Excited to get 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS! Thoughts on Lawrence: I'm hoping the line that "The other Clemson defenders were as good as they were because Lawrence was in there" is carried through here. This would make it an over running theme of the 1st two picks for the NYG that they elevate the people around them (something I felt Eli did with his receivers earlier in his career). As for giving up a second a fourth and fifth to get a solid CB....you can't have too many Edge rushers and you cant have too many Cornerbacks. While we are in dire need of the former, Baker helps us significantly with the later. And that leads me to my biggest gripe of this round. I would them rather have 'played it safe' and taken an edge over Jones. Beggars cant be choosers... and fans aren't Gms so I'll root for the Giants with an ever skeptical eye on Jones, Shurmur and Gettleman.
A mobile Tom Brady, Ngata at 17, and reincarnation of Revis  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/26/2019 12:27 pm : link
Sign me up!
RE: Jones was a shock for me but trying to understand their reasoning  
Nine-Tails : 4/26/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14410948 Dinger said:
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If you like him you don't wait. Excited to get 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS! Thoughts on Lawrence: I'm hoping the line that "The other Clemson defenders were as good as they were because Lawrence was in there" is carried through here. This would make it an over running theme of the 1st two picks for the NYG that they elevate the people around them (something I felt Eli did with his receivers earlier in his career). As for giving up a second a fourth and fifth to get a solid CB....you can't have too many Edge rushers and you cant have too many Cornerbacks. While we are in dire need of the former, Baker helps us significantly with the later. And that leads me to my biggest gripe of this round. I would them rather have 'played it safe' and taken an edge over Jones. Beggars cant be choosers... and fans aren't Gms so I'll root for the Giants with an ever skeptical eye on Jones, Shurmur and Gettleman.


I don't know why anyone would be upset with the Baker pick. No cab was picked until then and it's possible he was the only cb with a first rd grade on Giants board. They couldn't risk him going to the cards, San Fran, etc. also, we have no corner depth.
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Dr. D : 4/26/2019 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14410897 Mr. Nickels said:
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only doubted Eli after he regressed in 2006/2007 after a good 2005 season and he was throwing pick sixes left and right.

I've always wondered how many of Eli's INTs around that time were thrown to where Shockey was supposed to be?
RE: A mobile Tom Brady, Ngata at 17, and reincarnation of Revis  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14410964 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Sign me up!


hahaha... the pessimists would complain that if it turns out that way that have to then find a way to pay them all!
Like we have 3 players  
beatrixkiddo : 4/26/2019 12:46 pm : link
with 5 year options.
Eli  
TrueBlue22 : 4/26/2019 12:51 pm : link
I 100% supported Eli's selection in the 2004 draft & 100% oppose Jones' selection yesterday.

Eli has turned out to be what was projected for him.

Jones will turn out to be what is projected for him, not a starting NFL quarterback.

We will be in the losing wilderness for years when Jones assumes the helm.
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