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Sy'56: 2019 NFL Draft Review and What I Would Have Done

Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 4:39 pm
The Giants had so many holes on this roster, some of which in the most vital positions in the game, that they really couldn’t go in to this draft with any mindset other than get the best players available according to their schemes. They entered the 2019 Draft with 12 selections and because of a trade up towards the end of round 1, they ended up picking 10 times. Here is my analysis of their selections and also what I would have done different.

Every year since 2007, I like to make picks for the Giants in REAL TIME, not after the fact and after seeing how the board shakes out. Before anyone gets upset or angry, it is simply a fun exercise to do and compare years down the road.

**DISCLAIMER** As I’ve been stating since January, I would have offered a 2nd round pick (and more if the market demanded it) for QB Josh Rosen. With that said, I still made my picks in real time knowing it wasn’t going to happen.



ROUND 1 – #6 OVERALL

QB Daniel Jones – QB/Duke – 6’5/221


Summary: Fourth year junior entry. A three year starter and two time team captain. Despite playing with inferior talent both up front and at the skill positions nearly every week, Jones put together a productive career as both a passer and rusher. The prototypical quarterback when it comes to size and playing style showed glimpses over the past two years of what a first round QB should look like. His NFL-caliber mechanics from head to toe give him the look of a professional passer and him being coached by David Cutcliffe, the college coach of both Peyton and Eli Manning, only helps strengthen the notion of how ready he is. Jones pairs that with toughness and grit that doesn’t come around often. However, there were constant red flags in his tape that are hard to ignore. He didn’t see things well and his decisions were too inconsistent. There just seemed to be a lack of a true feel for the pocket, the defense, and angles. Jones checks a lot of boxes but there is a lot of gamble in the team that takes him even though he comes across as a “safe” bet to some.

*Let me start off by saying I did have a first round grade on Daniel Jones. It was closer to the bottom of the round 1 grades but I won’t label this pick a reach by any means. If a team feels strongly about a QB, you go for him. Add in the fact that Dave Gettleman stated he was confident Jones WOULD NOT have been there at 17, it was too dangerous of a game for them to play. Jones won’t be on the field until 2020 barring injuries unless they give him some mop up duty late in the year if NYG is out of it. Judgment of this pick is years away. Jones is really clean, really far along from mechanical and mental perspectives. The toughness and temperament are ideal for the NYG market. He is a much better athlete than people know. His arm is more than good enough to make all the throws. These four things make me feel good enough about the future of the QB position although I don’t ever see him being a big time guy. Do you NEED that? No. The question with him will revolve around the ability to play to NFL-caliber speed and can he process and react to things on the fly.

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Jonah Williams – OT/Alabama – 6’4/302

Summary: Junior entry. A three year starter dating back the beginning of his freshman season, a rarity under the Nick Saban era along the offensive line. One year at right tackle before settling in for two seasons at left tackle. First Team All SEC in 2017 and 2018 respectively. Williams is likely to be the unquestioned top offensive lineman in the class. He has the pro-caliber technique and control that can mirror just about anyone with a sense of ease and consistency. While he does have some work to do in the weight room, his upside is that of a 10+ year starter at a position that can be very hard to fill for some clubs. What he lacks in current power presence can be more than made up for with his arsenal of blocking-tools. Some will view him as a guard early on in his career, but his fit will depend on the team that drafts him. Week 1 starter regardless.

*I put it out there early last week that after the entire scouting process was over, Jonah was my guy for NYG at 6. The prototypical size numbers aren’t there, but that has become less and less of a thing as the league’s been changing to a more quickness, speed, change of direction type game. And I won’t let anyone say Williams is a weak presence, too. Jonah is a week 1 starter at any position (maybe other than OC) and will be in the league a long time. He is talented, he has a proven track record, and he works as hard as anyone off the field. With the Giants OL having been such a travesty throughout this awful run the organization has been on, I just can’t look past this position group until it is a top 10 unit. Williams would have gotten them a lot closer to that, but instead NYG seems to be hoping for Chad Wheeler or possibly an injure Mike Remmers to hold down the edge rushers that are in Manning’s face right away almost every deep drop back. And keep in mind if this offense is going to be built on Saquon Barkley, there can’t be weak links on the offensive line. Unfortunate in my eyes that NYG passed on him.


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ROUND 1 - #17 OVERALL

Dexter Lawrence – DT/Clemson – 6’4/342


Summary: Junior entry. A blue chip recruit that made an impact right away, winning the ACC Freshman of the Year Award in 2016. He then went on to earn two straight 1st Team All ACC placements even though his production wasn’t anything noteworthy. Lawrence can be a missing piece to a defense that struggles against the run. His mere presence demands attention from multiple bodies and he is no slouch when it comes to pursuing the ball. Even though he is almost always the biggest and most powerful player on the field, Lawrence needs to shore up techniques and be more consistent. He is not an every down player, but certainly one that can dominate in stretches.

*Lawrence was one of the top players on my board and the fact this team got him at pick #17 presented outstanding value. Giants fans are going to love this kid. He is a better version of what Linval Joseph turned in to, one that can create more in space and provide more pass rush. While I do think the plan will be to keep him off the field on sure-thing passing downs, I bet he is on the field for 65+% of the snaps which is about the average mark for starting defensive tackles in the league. Lawrence is the kind of guy that makes players next to, and behind him much better. He demands so much attention as he can play both A gaps and don’t overlook the athletic ability to chase guys down laterally. The Giants run defense has been ranked 20th or worst in the league 3 of the past 4 years. While there are numerous reasons for that, it always starts with the interior guys and stems from there. Lawrence is an ideal fit for a scheme that will ask the NT to be a penetrator on one play, and a space eater on the next.

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Dexter Lawrence – DT/Clemson – 6’4/342


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ROUND 1 - #30 OVERALL

Deandre Baker – CB/Georgia – 5’11/193


Summary: Baker was a three year starter for the Bulldogs that progressively improved as a prospect from the beginning of 2017. The two-time all SEC defender (1st Team in 2018) brings the kind of confidence and swagger that can take on the numerous challenges of playing cornerback in the NFL. He can be left alone on an island and stick with anyone on all levels of the route tree as well as make plays on the ball like a receiver. His issues can be correctable, mainly the technique-based and mental ones. The lack of power presence can be an issue at times but in a league where contact is allowed less and less in coverage, the corners that can get the job done via instincts, agility, and speed stand out a bit more.

*I was surprised by the trade up, and I was surprised by the selection. Before I get in to why, know that I had a top 15 overall grade on him and I think it was a great value-grab. What surprised me was the fact he didn’t receive a lot of love from the UGA coaching staff when it came to character and work ethic. In addition, it was public knowledge he didn’t interview very well. While that is all subjective and it shouldn’t be a make or break, with how NYG has been trying to steer this “team culture” idea back on the straight and narrow, a trade up for Baker was puzzling. In addition, there were a handful of corners there that fit the similar grade. Was it necessary to trade up? I’m not sure but I do understand why. They had picks to burn, Baker was their top guy that probably fits the scheme more than the others, and there is one more thing that may go unnoticed by some. Drafting Baker in round 1 allows for the 5th year team option to be added to the rookie contract so that if he does indeed become a big time player, they won’t have to pay him big time money until his sixth season. Baker will likely compete for a starting spot opposite Janoris Jenkins with Sam Beal and if I had to pick a winner right now, it is Baker. He is a competitor that shows up on game day and plays well in the highest-pressure situations. Really good fit and a really good pick.

WHO I WOULD HAVE TAKEN

Byron Murphy – CB/Washington - 5’11/190

Summary: Third year sophomore entry. Murphy missed 7 games in 2017 with a broken foot but came back with a 1st Team All Pac 12, 2nd Team All American performance. Despite the lack of game–experience, Murphy proved to be one of the more NFL-ready corners in the class with his top shelf athletic ability and ball tracking. He does play a little light which will need to change in the NFL, but his aggressive style and fast twitch reactions make him scary to throw near. If the technique can get cleaned up and he can improve in zone coverage, he has starting corner written all over him.

*The need for more talent at corner was obvious. With NYG back on the clock, Murphy was my top available player and because I like the upside and character with him more so than Baker, I leaned in his direction even though he may struggle to handle bigger, more physical receivers more so. Murphy is Mr. Smooth out there with the anticipation and reaction I always look for from the position. He screams “dependable” every time I watch him and I love who this kid is off the field.


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ROUND 3 - #95 overall

Oshane Ximines – EDGE/Old Dominion – 6’3/253


Summary: Fifth year senior and four year starter. Set, re-set, and then re-set again the school record for sacks in a single season each of his last three years on campus. Two time 1st Team All Conference USA that had a knack for both getting to the QB and jarring the ball loose. He forced 11 fumbles from the start of 2016 and historically that has been something that carries over to the NFL well. Ximines doesn’t fit the ideal profile of a plus-edge rusher when it comes to size or athletic ability but he understands how to get the job done and it is evident he can play the game with good technique and mechanics. He has a study presence about him with good hands and late movement. There will be a transition for him at the next level with the major jump in competition and time will tell of the lack of tools can be hidden by the plus-skill set.

*Everyone and their mother knew the Giants were going to add a pass rusher at some point. Gettleman tried to trade back up in the first round for Josh Allen after the Daniel Jones selection, but Tom Coughlin got a “last laugh” at the organization by scooping him up at #7 overall. Ximines isn’t the ideal fall back option but as we have been saying for awhile, you can’t fill every hole on this team in with just a few picks. I had Ximines graded toward the 5th round tier of my board. I don’t think it was terrible value and I can see why they like him, though. He was productive despite being a guy the opposition would zero in on weekly and the pro-level skill set from a hands and feet perspective could get him on the field early. He won’t get past Golden on the depth chart but he is a good guy to learn from, as they have similar playing styles. Limited upside but a guy that could stick.

WHO I WOULD HAVE TAKEN

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson – S/Florida – 5’11/210

Summary: Junior entry. Gardner-Johnson put himself on the radar initially with standout special teams defense. The aggressive and physical defender plays with an attack mode mindset at all times. While that aggression can cause him to miss on occasion, the positives that stem from it are notable. His versatility and playmaking ability was on full display over the rest of his career, constantly finding himself involved in the action despite being moved around on the Florida defense a few times. The experience he has at safety and nickel will likely net him a similar role in the NFL. He isn’t someone you want to depend on in deep coverage or an island against wide receivers, but his impact on all three downs from the middle of the field can help a defense in numerous ways.

*I strongly believe that a crucial part of building a secondary in the NFL is finding the one or two guys that can wear multiple hats in any given situation. Gardner-Johnson was my top DB/CB combo in the class and even though a few character red flags bumped him down the draft, this would have been the spot I wanted to take the gamble. He took his game to another level in 2018 when he played more safety-type roles and with how NYG will likely use Peppers in and out of the box, he could have been the hybrid that stays on the field in any situation. Really curious to see how he turns out in the league, his upside is top shelf.


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ROUND 4 - #108 overall

Julian Love – CB/Notre Dame – 5’11/195


Summary: Junior entry that was an All American in both 2017 and 2018. Leaves Notre Dame as the all time leader in pass break ups and was a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award this past season. Love is a pro-ready corner that checks a lot of boxes when it comes to technique, reaction speed, and quickness. He is a weapon against the pass when covering the short and intermediate passing game. While his lack of size and strength can be exposed by certain matchups, Love has the kind of game that can be moved inside-out. Safe and reliable corner that has starter written all over him.

*Going in to day 3, Love was my top graded player available. I wasn’t surprised by the pick at all even though they had already used a pick on a corner. I stated prior to the draft that the NYG CB group was among the worst in football when considering the depth behind their top guy. Well, grabbing two cornerbacks that had 1st round grades on my board is a step in the right direction to shore up a pass defense that has been among the worst in football for years. Love will compete with Grant Haley for the team’s nickel role off the bat but I think if and when injuries arise, he can step outside seamlessly. The technician brings a pro-style of play to the field right away and I bet he plays a lot in year one. That is a really nice get for a 4th rounder.

WHO I WOULD HAVE TAKEN

David Sills – WR/West Virginia – 6’3/211

Summary: Fifth year senior that had two different stints at West Virginia. After a highly-touted high school career at quarterback, Sills was put in to the WR rotation in 2015 but left the program to pursue his QB career at junior college. Ultimately he realized his NFL future was solely at WR, thus he returned to the Mountaineers and put together two straight All American seasons. In West Virginia’s high-power spread attack, Sills was a touchdown machine that pushed 50/50 balls to 70/30 balls in his favor. 33 touchdowns over those two years were among the many highlights he has on tape. Sills lacks some important athletic and measurable testing numbers, but there is no denying how special his ball skills and awareness levels are. Pair him with an accurate thrower and Sills will be produce at a high level, but he is just a step shy of being a number one.

*While I knew I had Sills graded higher than most, I underestimated the margin. He ended up going undrafted and signed with BUF early in the UDF period. The lack pf speed and twitch apparently forced teams to look elsewhere when shopping for wide receivers. The reason I wanted a guy like Sills? The balls skills + size were an attractive combo that I think this passing game sorely needs. Sure, he will have a hard time getting open in the league but I think he is more than capable of getting “open enough” considering how well he plays the ball in the air. Another thing to consider? Sills has basically been playing the position for just 3 years and it was in an offense where they don’t demand a lot when it comes to the skill set. I think the best is way ahead of him, more so than other prospects. Time will tell if I was right or wrong about this kid, but I think BUF was a great landing spot for him.


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ROUND 5 - #143 overall

Ryan Connelly – LB/Wisconsin – 6’2/242


Summary: Fifth year senior. A former high school quarterback that slowly but surely evolved in to the teams top defender over the past 2 years. Honorable Mention All Big 10 in 2017, 3rd Team in 2018. 21 TFL and 6 sacks over the past 2 two years combined. Connelly is a hungry and aggressive downhill force that is decisive and fast to react. He finishes hard and rarely misses tackles when he gets his hands on. There are limitations to his game when it comes to change of direction and agility, as there is some tightness below the waist and his size won’t make up for it. He projects to be a solid special teamer with a shot at being a decent 3 down 3-4 inside linebacker.

*While I didn’t think an ILB was one of the top needs on this team, I did acknowledge there was a spot open for someone. I preferred most athletic ability and coverage skills, but Connelly is a guy that can come in and push BJ Goodson for playing time eventually. The two had very similar draft profiles and college careers, although Goodson is a better athlete by a decent margin. I’m not sure I see anything more here than a guy that can make some plays against the run. His tightness and lack of explosion in coverage will be picked on if he is out there. Look for him to factor on special teams in year one.

WHO I WOULD HAVE TAKEN

DeAndre Walker – EDGE/Georgia – 6’2/251

Summary: Senior that was a rotational guy until his senior year. Played a lot in both 2016 and 2017 and was among the team leaders in pressures, TFL, and sacks. Walker had a tendency to show up and make plays in their biggest games. It happened more than a handful of times so you know it wasn’t a coincidence. His ability to fire off the ball low and strong in combination with his long arms and heavy hands made him a tough assignment for longer, more inflexible blockers. Walker also showed the ability to drop in to coverage and stick with tight ends in space. His ideal role is in a 3-4 where he can play downhill but teams will have multiple options with him.

*Before every season begins, I put * marks next to the guys that aren’t on the national spotlight but I really liked in the preliminary scouting looks. Walker was one of those guys and while he never quite jumped off the screen throughout the year, his game just screamed NFL to me. He is powerful, fast in a 10 yard window, and showed the knack to make a play in big moments. I don’t see him as an every down guy but on a team starving for edge rushing talent, I simply liked the idea of him getting a crack and breaking the OLB rotation. I love the tools and versatility.


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ROUND 5 – #171 overall

Darius Slayton – WR/Auburn – 6’1/190


Summary: Fourth year junior entry. Slayton arrived at Auburn as an accomplished high school track athlete and enters the NFL with a very high ceiling. His speed and burst are functional and usable on the field, he is much more than a track athlete. He consistently averaged near-20 yards per catch over his career and displayed dominant stretches against SEC cornerbacks.. He is a deep threat that will make a defense account for him at all times. While there are limitations to his game underneath and at the point of attack, this kind of deep threat and ability to extend plays after the catch is worth the risk. Boom or bust.

*Ironic part with the Slayton selection was I was talking about him in round 4. One of the top deep threats in the draft class, Slayton is the kind of guy that this offense needs if they really want to maximize the underneath pass catching trio of Shepard/Tate/Engram along with Barkley. If you have a true vertical threat that can take the top off a secondary at any given moment, it will create space. Slayton is more than just a speed guy, too. The Auburn offensive woes over the past 2 years kind of hid what this kid is capable of but he flashed enough. He lacks contact presence and strength at 190 pounds, but he tracks the ball well and he can make some things happen after the catch. Slayton will be the team’s top deep threat from day one. If he can learn enough of the offense, I expect him to see the field early for at least 7-10 plays per game.

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Brandon Knight - OL/Indiana – 6’4/314

Summary: Three year starter from Noblesville, In. After earning the team’s Newcomer of the Year award in 2015 as a rotational tackle and blocking tight end, Knight earned a starting role. After missing a combined 7 games over 2016 and 2017, Knight was an every week starter as a senior and earned Honorable Mention All Big 10 honors. He is at his worst the further in to space he gets and his body type screams interior lineman. Knight will move to guard, maybe even center, and develop in to a quality starter with the upside of being more. His technique and combination of fast feet and hands translate well and once he enhances his strength and power presence, he could be a blocker that has it all.

*I see Knight as a backup-caliber interior guy for his first year or two with an outside shot at being a starter down the road. He ended up going undrafted and eventually picked up by DAL, a good spot for him because I think he can make that team. Knight had a medical red flag that flared up late in the scouting process but I’ve been told odds are he will be ready by training camp. This is a really solid technician, especially from the ground up, that will translate to the league well.


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ROUND 6 – #180 overall

Corey Ballentine – CB/Washburn – 5’11/196


Summary: Fifth year senior. Under-recruited high schooler that didn’t start playing football under his junior year. Two time 1st Team All MIAA defender that oozes talent and upside as an outside corner. He was a playmaker on both defense and special teams where is sheer talent jumped off the screen albeit against a lower level of competition. Ballentine has a raw set of tools as a corner but he did impress in one on one matchups during the Senior Bowl practices, usually a part of the week that heavily favors the receivers. This developmental defensive back will be a day three pick that teams will look to take advantage of on special teams while developing the long term upside of an outside corner.

*I think this pick was as much about special teams as it was defense, to be honest. Ballentine is going to challenge Corey Coleman for KR duties but he will also make his mark as a gunner. He is a really good a straight line athlete that made a ton of special teams tackles at Washburn. He was also a game changer with 4 career blocked kicks. That kind of burst and speed combined with decent size makes him an attractive long term project at corner, but I think his primary role will be special teams ace.

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Rodney Anderson – RB/Oklahoma – 6’0/224

Summary: Fourth year junior that has been through the ringer when it comes to injuries. Season enders to his leg, back, and knee have cut him short in 3 of his 4 years with the Sooners. The medicals with him could be the make or break when it comes to the final grade. On the field, Anderson is as impactful as any running back in the class. He has the kind of lower body ease and fluidity paired with a nice burst and long speed that can take a small window in to a huge gain. Anderson moves exceptionally well and the fact he does it at 220+ pounds with excellent vision and feel make him a very attractive prospect. If the health stays on the positive side, Anderson could be one of the best players in this class a few years from now.

*I know, I know. We have Saquon Barkley, why ever spend another draft pick on a running back? IF you take a RB 2nd overall, he should be able to leap tall building, run through concrete walls, and swallow defenders that try to tackle him. The reason I was banging the table for Anderson was the fact that he was a first round talent (and best RB in the draft) if injuries weren’t in the big picture. His injury history was enough to warrant a steep drop down but at this point, I couldn’t pass on him. If he does pan out, NYG has a 1-2 punch in the backfield that is atop the league on a team that will constantly need a threat back there considering the NYG passing game situation. He wouldn’t need to be rushed in to action and if there ever were a role for a back like Anderson to thrive in, it would be this one. Zero pressure and easy to limit the looks. CIN ended up taking Anderson, a similar situation touch-wise and I bet we hear his name in the coming 2 years.


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ROUND 7 – #232 overall

George Asafo-adjei – OL/Memphis – 6’5/306


Summary: Two-plus year starter at right tackle. An attractive straight line athlete that has the tools to play both inside and outside in the NFL. Good initial pop out of his stance that can generate power from both his hips and hands. Asafo-adjei appears to be a developmental player that could be a priority free agent after the draft because of his tools and quality play in the SEC. The light clicked for him as a senior where he showed solid stretches of play in both the running and passing games. The struggles in space as a lateral mover come more from technique and awareness more so than ability, thus there is an upside here that could see him project as a 6th or 7th lineman that backs up multiple spots.

*The Giants are likely going to sign Mike Remmers and another free agent offensive lineman between now and training camp. I would hope that’s the plan because if it is Chad Wheeler or bust at RT and the team goes as is with the current list of backups, this OL has the likelihood of holding this entire offense back yet again. They looked past OL early and didn’t see OL help in the middle rounds, thus they waited here until the 7th round to take a chance on an athlete that put together a quality pro-day workout. Asafo-adjei will have his opportunities in training camp to make his mark as a primary backup, but I wouldn’t get overly excited here.

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Porter Gustin – EDGE/USC – 6’4/255

Summary: After an illustrious high school sports career that saw Gustin succeed everywhere he went, Gustin burst on to the scene at USC as a freshman recording 5.5 sacks in part time duty. 2016 was a year he started to get some national attention, earning All Pac 12 honors after a 13 TFL, 6.5 sack season. However 16 missed games since the start of 2017 because of multiple injuries sidetracked Gustin’s progression an put the infamous “injury prone” label on him. Gustin lacks talent and a developed skill set, but the motor and aggressive nature can be a weapon if he can stay on the field. His 10 TFL over just 6 games in 2018 proved he can be a playmaker if the opportunities are there. Rotational guy with special teams potential is the floor here.

*Gustin did miss a lot of time over the previous 2 seasons but they were mostly broken bone-related. He did have a but of a biceps injury but other than that, the soft tissues weren’t an issue. Gustin simply had some bad luck thrown his way and if anything, he proved to have an elite level of toughness and grit. He played his senior year of high school with 2 broken hands. While I don’t see Gustin developing any sort of edge bending, explosive skill set that sets the league on fire, he is the kind of backup I want. His engine is non stop and he plays with the kind of bruiser mentality this team needs to get back to.


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ROUND 7 - #245 overall

Chris Slayton – DT/Syracuse – 6’4/307


Summary: Fifth year senior. Three-plus year starter that has a good amount of experience as both a 4-3 DT and 3-4 DE. Slayton can project to either spot in the NFL because of his ability to change his approach on the fly. He is quick enough to penetrate the gaps and also stout enough to maintain his ground against the double team. There are issues when it comes to his ability to move laterally with presence, but it can be corrected with better hand usage and pad level. Slayton’s tendency to get high and look for the ball needs to be controlled but the tools are there to factor as a rotational interior defender.

*For late in the 7th round, this was a very good pick simply because I think NYG can get something out of Slayton right away. They are a little weak on the outside of their 3-4 front when it comes to depth. Slayton will come in and compete with RJ McIntosh, two guys with very similar skill sets. Slayton’s versatility in college certainly helped his grade because he proved he can play at a high level in both 4-3 and 3-4 fronts. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see him in the rotation by mid-year.

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Ashton Dulin – WR/Malone – 6’1/215

Summary: Three year starter from Reynoldsburg, Ohio. Chose the Malone program over Division I offers so he could play football and run track. A school-record setter in the 60 M, 200 M, and 60 M hurdles. Left the GMAC as record holder in 5 outdoor track events. 2018 GMAC Offensive Back and Special Teams Player of the Year. Dulin is a ball of clay that a team will want to mold for a couple years. If done correctly, the ceiling with him can rival a few of the best receivers in the class in addition to making impact in the return game. He is a big, strong, fast competitor that is more than just an athlete. Dulin is a football player in ever sense of the word that could be one of the best day 3 picks in the draft.

*Even though I wanted Sills earlier in the draft, I wanted to use another pick on a potential downfield threat that wouldn’t be rushed in to action. Dulin is a gifted former track athlete that was dominant on tape at the Division II level. He is raw and will be making an enormous jump in competition, but this kid can make plays on the ball, run by NFL-caliber speed, and plays strong. I could see the likes of Latimer and Coleman making it tough for a young WR to break in to the rotation early, so I wouldn’t mind having a talent like this on a redshirt year and mold him to be ready for team-competition in 2020.



To Sum up the 2019 Draft Comparison:

NYG Draft

1: Daniel Jones – QB/Duke
1: Dexter Lawrence – DT/Clemson
1: Deandre Baker – CB/Georgia
3: Oshane Ximines – EDGE/Old Dominion
4: Julian Love – CB/Notre Dame
5: Ryan Connelly – LB/Wisconsin
5: Darius Slayton – WR/Auburn
6: Corey Ballentne – CB/Washburn
7: George Asafo-adjei – OL/Kentuky
7: Chris Slayton – DT/Syracuse

Sy’56 Draft

1: Jonah Williams – OT/Alabama
1: Dexer Lawrence – DT/Clemson
1: Byron Murphy – CB/Washington
3: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson – S/Florida
4: David Sills – WR/West Virginia
5: DeAndre Walker – EDGE/Georgia
5: Brandon Knight – OL/Indiana
6: Rodney Anderson – RB/Oklahoma
7: Porter Gustin – EDGE/USC
7: Ashton Dulin – WR/Malone

*Also keep in mind I would have traded my 2nd rounder for Rosen.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2019 4:46 pm : link
Sy...I'm going to tweak you here buddy... I believe you said you would have given the Cards our #6 pick for Rosen.
I get the Jones pick...  
Dunedin81 : 4/29/2019 4:47 pm : link
even if I take issue with it. But they got a lot of good value after Jones, and they upgraded the defense markedly. The pass rush is still a glaring issue, but after they picked Jones over Allen I respect their estimation of value. Lawrence will help the pass rush indirectly, perhaps directly as well, and Baker and Love represented strong value where drafted (and CB was a clear need as well). I thought the OL could have used some more love, even if just as depth, but that's by only significant gripe.
Thank you Sy.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/29/2019 4:48 pm : link
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Definitely prefer Sy's draft  
Greg from LI : 4/29/2019 4:48 pm : link
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Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14421755 Eric from BBI said:
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Sy...I'm going to tweak you here buddy... I believe you said you would have given the Cards our #6 pick for Rosen.


If it came to that, absolutely would have.

As it became clear first rounders weren't the price, I said round 2 was the offer.
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Mike in NY : 4/29/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14421760 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 14421755 Eric from BBI said:


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Sy...I'm going to tweak you here buddy... I believe you said you would have given the Cards our #6 pick for Rosen.



If it came to that, absolutely would have.

As it became clear first rounders weren't the price, I said round 2 was the offer.


How would you have dealt a 2 then still be able to trade up for the CB?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2019 4:53 pm : link
Great job Sy... you and I seem to be on the same page with much of this too.
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Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14421769 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14421760 Sy'56 said:


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In comment 14421755 Eric from BBI said:


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Sy...I'm going to tweak you here buddy... I believe you said you would have given the Cards our #6 pick for Rosen.



If it came to that, absolutely would have.

As it became clear first rounders weren't the price, I said round 2 was the offer.



How would you have dealt a 2 then still be able to trade up for the CB?


Mike...that is where this exercise gets dicey.

If trading for Rosen was a real option...the CB would not have been taken but we would have had 2 other picks to work with in the middle.

I simply make the picks when NYG is on the clock. I just want to be on record that Rosen would have been my choice for the new QB, thats all
Thanks Sy  
BillT : 4/29/2019 4:56 pm : link
Great to hear your reaction to and alternatives for the Giants draft.

If I have one takeaway it's this about Daniel Jones:

"His arm is more than good enough to make all the throws."
Please help me understand this (DJ) comment  
Pep22 : 4/29/2019 4:56 pm : link
The question with him will revolve around the ability to play to NFL-caliber speed and can he process and react to things on the fly.

If a) he's an above average athlete b) he has advances mechanics/fundamentals c) is very bright....why is speed of play and processing in question?
Sy  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2019 4:57 pm : link
One last thing. Not that it changes anything, but I believe Gustin had a failed drug test or something like that that came out right before the draft.
Thanks Sy56  
Vegas Steve : 4/29/2019 4:59 pm : link
Great write-up as always

Do you any info on the UDFA?
RE: Please help me understand this (DJ) comment  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14421779 Pep22 said:
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The question with him will revolve around the ability to play to NFL-caliber speed and can he process and react to things on the fly.

If a) he's an above average athlete b) he has advances mechanics/fundamentals c) is very bright....why is speed of play and processing in question?


Being book smart alone does not mean you can process the defense and adjust accordingly on the fly. Some of the best QB's of all time had less than stellar Wonderlic scores, but they were able to instantaneously translate what was happening in front of them.
Sy just out of curiosity  
Chris684 : 4/29/2019 5:05 pm : link
Are you an NYG fan?

Or do you not have a team per se?
was looking forward to this - thank you Sy  
Eric on Li : 4/29/2019 5:18 pm : link
I think I'd take the NYG draft because I'm a Jones fan over Rosen, but I think I agree with you on Murphy vs. Baker. Hoping for the best there.
Thanks Sy  
Now Mike in MD : 4/29/2019 5:22 pm : link
you have mentioned a couple times whether Jones can make things happen on the fly. In lgiht of the constant pressure he faced at Duke, wouldn't he have had to have done that and odne that on a near constant basis considering his OL was a sieve.

Thanks for everything you did with the draft and all year round!
Thanks Sy ...  
short lease : 4/29/2019 5:24 pm : link
Nice write-up.

You seemed to have leaned in the multiple edge rusher direction and the Giants went multiple DB/CBs.

No matter - we need help at both positions.

Fingers crossed - the backfield maybe a strength in 1 or 2 seasons especially if Beal steps up also.
RE: Please help me understand this (DJ) comment  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14421779 Pep22 said:
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The question with him will revolve around the ability to play to NFL-caliber speed and can he process and react to things on the fly.

If a) he's an above average athlete b) he has advances mechanics/fundamentals c) is very bright....why is speed of play and processing in question?


Reading defenses, making quick-reactive decisions, forecasting schemes and concepts against the speed of the NFL...that is usually what separates the men from the boys at QB.

Being smart/quick twitched/mechanically sound is just a part of the equation when it comes to being able to doing it at a high level.
RE: Thanks Sy56  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14421787 Vegas Steve said:
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Great write-up as always

Do you any info on the UDFA?


Will try to get some info out on them when they are official (League sends the lists out)
RE: Sy just out of curiosity  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14421799 Chris684 said:
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Are you an NYG fan?

Or do you not have a team per se?


I lean towards NYG but as I get deeper in to scouting, it becomes less so.
RE: Thanks Sy  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14421844 Now Mike in MD said:
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you have mentioned a couple times whether Jones can make things happen on the fly. In lgiht of the constant pressure he faced at Duke, wouldn't he have had to have done that and odne that on a near constant basis considering his OL was a sieve.

Thanks for everything you did with the draft and all year round!


It is hard to take what one did in college and directly correlate it to the NFL. Cerain trends follow guys...and a trend I saw in Jones was inconsistency against pressure. He sure did get a lot of experience facing pressure and quick decisions...but that doesn't mean he is good at it.
I would have taken Williams  
jeff57 : 4/29/2019 6:01 pm : link
Over Jones also. Although would have preferred Allen to Williams. Also liked Murphy better than Baker.
Sy  
Lines of Scrimmage : 4/29/2019 6:03 pm : link
Thank you for the superb work! Jones will be the key. I hope he is the real deal and the team gets him on the field next year and they can open up a 3-4 window.

There is still a lot of work to be done but at least you can see them building some quality depth.
Thanks Sy - one question  
PatersonPlank : 4/29/2019 6:27 pm : link
I believe it was you who called the Darius Slayton pick before it happened. I think you said something like "he'd be a great pick here because we need someone to take the top off the defense"

So I'm surprised he isn't the "what you would have done" pick too.
Prefer the Giants Draft  
Nine-Tails : 4/29/2019 6:40 pm : link
I didn't like the Jones pick, but like that the Giants had a conviction on him and took him sixth. A lot more upside
Can you tell what you see in Rosen that you would have traded for  
SterlingArcher : 4/29/2019 6:41 pm : link
him? There has to be something wrong with this guy if AZ is dumping him after just one year.
I love how  
Keaton028 : 4/29/2019 6:42 pm : link
Sy can offer an informed, alternative perspective to the draft without being snide or insulting. Great reading as always. I would have preferred your draft, Sy, but we’ll see how everything pans out.
RE: Can you tell what you see in Rosen that you would have traded for  
Nine-Tails : 4/29/2019 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14421995 SterlingArcher said:
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him? There has to be something wrong with this guy if AZ is dumping him after just one year.


Agree and I like Rosen and wanted him last year. But something is amiss
Great information  
exiled : 4/29/2019 7:15 pm : link
Without all the reactionary BS in the media—and here (including myself, admittedly).

All your work is very much appreciated, Sy.
For the life of me  
YANKEE28 : 4/29/2019 7:39 pm : link
I can't understand us taking a DT in the 7th, and it not being Clemson DT Albert Huggins.

The tape of Albert Huggins vs the tape of DT Chris Slayton isn't even close (IMO).

Moments after the draft ended, Huggins got a large UDFA contract from the Texans.
Great  
AcidTest : 4/29/2019 8:29 pm : link
review. Thanks.
Thanks SY,  
barens : 4/29/2019 8:43 pm : link
I'll tell you what, after all of the venting about Jerry Reese, this draft wasn't all that different from what the previous regime would have done. As much I liked most of the selections, I do feel like we are going to be asking the question of why they didn't grab an offensive tackle early.

They seemingly did well on defense, but when the left defensive ends are getting to Eli in under 3 seconds flat, it's not going to matter.
This might be my favorite post of the year  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/29/2019 9:18 pm : link
I love your work.

Not trying to debunk your work, but I reached out to a close friend who covered the Georgia beat 2016-2018 re: character concerns on Baker. His response:

“Kirby really liked him and told Baker’s agent that the report about him that came out about him didn’t come from him or any coach that he was aware of. Teammates really really liked him. If a coach was bitter about Baker sitting the bowl, maybe that’s where it could’ve come from. “
RE: This might be my favorite post of the year  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14422200 Ned In Atlanta said:
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I love your work.

Not trying to debunk your work, but I reached out to a close friend who covered the Georgia beat 2016-2018 re: character concerns on Baker. His response:

“Kirby really liked him and told Baker’s agent that the report about him that came out about him didn’t come from him or any coach that he was aware of. Teammates really really liked him. If a coach was bitter about Baker sitting the bowl, maybe that’s where it could’ve come from. “


Thanks for the info Ned!
I don't mean to be unkind, but  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 4/29/2019 11:05 pm : link
I rather wish that they would take Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith to the pound and have them put down.

Not only do they believe, so they say, that every year they can rather easily rate the year's QB class against other years, including future years, but they can also sort out the QBs in each year's class.

And they have to tell us in such grating, hurried voices.
sorrry to say but you lost me with the jonah williams pick....  
Torrag : 4/29/2019 11:31 pm : link
...no value there. He's technically proficient and currently more advanced than the other OT's out of this draft but he's not special athletically or explosively.
Sy, it has been  
Gregorio : 4/30/2019 4:26 am : link
So interesting to have your draft analyses, and now to see what you would have done. Thanks for all you do!
I had Jonah too  
USAF NYG Fan : 4/30/2019 5:06 am : link
but then again your pre-draft ranking kinda sealed that for me.

Appreciate all you do Sy. Keep up the outstanding work.
Just to tie it into yours - what I would have done  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/30/2019 7:45 am : link
#6 - Josh Allen
#17 - Andre Dillard
#37 + 5th rd pick - Josh Rosen

Thats how I would have run the top 3 picks for the Giants
I tried to do this..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/30/2019 8:19 am : link
exercise in real time as well, but once Jones was picked, I grabbed my pitchfork, plunged out the 3rd story window, rendered bloody garments and woke up 2 days later in an asylum next to Matt in Syracuse thinking it was a dream.

You had a much better effort:)
Great point  
Kyle in NY : 4/30/2019 8:50 am : link
on the 5th year option with Baker. Will come in handy if he turns into a player.

I like a lot of what we did in this draft. This draft will ultimately be graded on Jones, but I think we got solid value in a lot of other places.
Thanks Sy  
sjnyfan : 4/30/2019 9:26 am : link
I had:

6. Brian Burns
17. Byron Murphy
30. Greg Little
95. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
108. Gerald Willis
143. David Edwards
171. Kelvin Harmon
180. Te'Von Coney
232. Ryan Bates
245. David Sills V

Sy  
stoneman : 4/30/2019 9:56 am : link
How would you have spun an OT pick ahead of Allen - the QB pick was painful enough :)
The tired narrative of "there must be something wrong with Josh Rosen"  
Gruber : 4/30/2019 10:38 am : link
In comment 14421995 SterlingArcher said:
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him? There has to be something wrong with this guy if AZ is dumping him after just one year.


Don't assume NFL organisations know what they are doing or make smart decisions. They routinely screw up. The Cardinals were still trying to extract a first round pick after they had already drafted Kyler Murray. They badly misread the market.

I'm with Sy'56. I think trading for Josh Rosen was a no-brainer. If he tanks, most likely you're back in with a high draft pick in 2020 in a QB wealthy draft. Also, we're building an offense around Saquon, so strengthen the offensive line. Rosen has a great arm, give him the protection, he doesn't have to be Aaron Rodgers or Joe Montana.
For reference  
RinR : 4/30/2019 10:55 am : link
Where Sy's picks actually went:

1:06 Jonah Williams – OT/Alabama - - -> 1:11 Cincinnati
1:17 Dexer Lawrence – DT/Clemson - - -> 1:17 N.Y. Giants
1:30 Byron Murphy – CB/Washington - - -> 2:01 Arizona
3:32 Chauncey Gardner-Johnson – S/Florida - - -> 4:03 New Orleans
4:06 David Sills – WR/West Virginia - - -> UDF
5:05 DeAndre Walker – EDGE/Georgia - - -> 5:30 Tennessee
5:33 Brandon Knight – OL/Indiana - - -> UDF
6:07 Rodney Anderson – RB/Oklahoma - - -> 6:39 Cincinnati
7:18 Porter Gustin – EDGE/USC - - -> UDF
7:31 Ashton Dulin – WR/Malone - - -> UDF
Nice writeup, thanks  
morrison40 : 4/30/2019 11:10 am : link
Looking forward to see Shurmur plan with Jones in action. He’s our guy, gotta support him
I wanted Haskins  
PaulN : 4/30/2019 12:30 pm : link
But I would take Jones over Rosen, and this is because I simply do not believe he will have much of a career at all, I just look at him and think to myself, when is he going to get hurt. I am more for the Giants draft then Sy's.
Sy...  
bw in dc : 4/30/2019 3:23 pm : link
Well done.

Out of curiosity, and I know you weren't as high as most on Allen, I have to imagine you have others besides Williams you would have taken at #6.

What would that list be?
Thank you for this.  
Matt M. : 4/30/2019 3:32 pm : link
I always enjoy your analysis in general, but this write-up in particular. I echo those who laud you for being able to produce such an extensive write-up counter to the actual selections without being condescending, controversial, argumentative, etc.

I am leaning toward preferring your draft a little better, but overall think the Giants had a very good draft on paper. Let's see what happens on the field.

Personally, I initially was also in favor of trading for Rosen. That was more the result of seeing the number of high value players at positions of need than really judging Rosen vs. Jones. But, I will say, that last year I thought Rosen was the second best QB in the draft behind Mayfield. However, his serious concussion and shoulder surgery were reasons enough not to draft him. Those are creeping back into my thoughts again. It's enough to sway me back to taking Jones. I do think, though, that Rosen has the tools to be a good pro.

Then again, I also like Jackson better than most of the QBs. I don't think he is necessarily the best of the bunch, but do think he has the potential to end up with an excellent career. I pegged Mayfield as the type to implode and I'm not sold on Darnold. I'm perfectly happy with Barkley.
I used to like your picks  
BigK : 4/30/2019 3:34 pm : link
Much more when Jerry Reese was GM.
Sy, you're the man and a tremendous asset to BBI, I love you  
jamison884 : 4/30/2019 5:17 pm : link
And I also don't watch any college games, so I have zero knowledge on the players after the first round.

However, with all due respect, if four of your real-time picks went as UDFA, isn't that a bit of a black eye for your particular selections this draft? Or, on the other hand, do you know or expect this to be rather typical with each team and their own respective grades after the last pick when the UDFA frenzy begins?

Again, I'm only asking with the best of intentions (curiosity) and I'm not trolling or trying to come off wrong. Thank you sincerely!
awesome job Sy'56 Pre-draft and Post draft . Eric as well .  
Bluesbreaker : 4/30/2019 6:08 pm : link
I was all in on Barkley last season and all in on Josh Allen
this season . Many were stunned with the Jones pick and
once the Raids took Ferrell I was ecstatic because i didn't
think Allen would get passed the Jets once that happened
I thought for sure the Giants would offer up there 2nd
round pick for Rosen . I questioned moving up for Baker
who was my favorite CB in the Draft to me he is just a
baller . What I wasn't all that happy about was not
getting a RT The biggest plus to me was getting Julian Love
in the 4th . I have to believe they will add another Vet
for RT the thought of another year of Wheeler could
kill this offense .
RE: Sy...  
Sy'56 : 4/30/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14424133 bw in dc said:
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Well done.

Out of curiosity, and I know you weren't as high as most on Allen, I have to imagine you have others besides Williams you would have taken at #6.

What would that list be?


The short list was

Jonah Williams - OT/Alabama
Andre Dillard - OT/Washington State
Devin Bush - LB/Michigan
Christian Wilkins - DT/Clemson
Andre Dillard
RE: Sy, you're the man and a tremendous asset to BBI, I love you  
Sy'56 : 4/30/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14424545 jamison884 said:
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And I also don't watch any college games, so I have zero knowledge on the players after the first round.

However, with all due respect, if four of your real-time picks went as UDFA, isn't that a bit of a black eye for your particular selections this draft? Or, on the other hand, do you know or expect this to be rather typical with each team and their own respective grades after the last pick when the UDFA frenzy begins?

Again, I'm only asking with the best of intentions (curiosity) and I'm not trolling or trying to come off wrong. Thank you sincerely!


I wouldn't argue if that was your outlook on my selections. All of this is subjective at this point. I will say as rounds 5-6-7 roll around...several guys are picked that would end up UDFAs had that one team not chosen them.

I do think I overvalued Sills especially....back to the drawing board I guess! But you can bet I'll be keeping a close eye on him in BUF!
Sy - not sure if this has been asked elsewhere  
Eric on Li : 4/30/2019 6:48 pm : link
but which teams had your favorite drafts? Presumably you liked the haul NYG came away with since they took some guys you seemed higher than average on (especially at 17, 30, 108 + Slayton), curious how you compare the overall talent they came away with vs. other teams drafts. If you want it might be easiest to evaluate the 9 position players vs. other top drafts separate from Jones since we had the advantage of an extra #1 anyway.
Great body o fwork Sy.  
nicky43 : 4/30/2019 8:00 pm : link
Thanks!
RE: RE: Sy, you're the man and a tremendous asset to BBI, I love you  
jamison884 : 4/30/2019 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14424771 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 14424545 jamison884 said:


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And I also don't watch any college games, so I have zero knowledge on the players after the first round.

However, with all due respect, if four of your real-time picks went as UDFA, isn't that a bit of a black eye for your particular selections this draft? Or, on the other hand, do you know or expect this to be rather typical with each team and their own respective grades after the last pick when the UDFA frenzy begins?

Again, I'm only asking with the best of intentions (curiosity) and I'm not trolling or trying to come off wrong. Thank you sincerely!



I wouldn't argue if that was your outlook on my selections. All of this is subjective at this point. I will say as rounds 5-6-7 roll around...several guys are picked that would end up UDFAs had that one team not chosen them.

I do think I overvalued Sills especially....back to the drawing board I guess! But you can bet I'll be keeping a close eye on him in BUF!


Thanks for the reply Sy. Honestly, I think it's more likely that I simply underestimate how much the team's scouting departments vary in their evaluations and player grades than anything you can take from your real-time draft. I truly respect your evaluations and insight and your passion help makes this site and forum.

Thanks dude!
PS: I haven't checked, but I'm betting you're one of the best  
jamison884 : 4/30/2019 11:54 pm : link
As far as our own individual private team scout compared to other NFL teams. We all benefit from your talent and dedication, and should be appreciative as a fan base for your fandom of the NY Football Giants and love of the game all with the willingness to share your knowledge and opinions, and that's not even covering your game reviews which really helps me confirm or counter my thoughts on player performances because I don't review film and catching little things for all 11 players each down is impossible live.

Now add humble to your qualities; I hope you're feeling the love!
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