-absolutely brutal loss last night
-on the bright side, bullpen is starting to come around. Lugo was fantastic, Gsellman hitting 99--wow; diaz strong as usual. Will be getting Wilson back shortly, and hopefully familia can pick up his game when he is healthy as well---would still sign kimbrel if that's a possibility
-there are too many good hitters to get super concerned about the offense; mcneil/alonso are for real, conforto is streaky but a good player, nimmo will get better, jd davis is a good hitter, and ramos/cano--have a hard time believing they are just going to fall off a cliff. Plus we get Lowrie back soon. Just as there was too many good pitchers to get super concerned about the pitching when they were struggling
-the defense, however, concerning, and two players in particular, Ramos and Rosario have to step up there game more
-when Lowrie returns, we need to rest Cano significantly more than we have
-Todd frazier *has* to be the odd man out, and it makes sense to have Hecheverria up over frazier because of his defense, versatity, and greater ability to make contact, which is important with the way they wanted to constitute this offense. So the Mets will either have to swing a trade, or just eat the money as they did with d'Arnaud.
-I undersand the hestitancy to give up on Broxton, he has great physical tools, and we have 4 years of control, but Dom Smith needs to be on this team, his talents are redundant to Lagares, and for this year at least we have depth in C.Gomez if Lagares gets injured. If we can swing a trade of Broxton, that would be ideal, so we can keep Smith on the 25-man roster. Plus, when Ces returns, we're really not going to have a place for him.
-I think after the June draft, I hope to see the following roster
SP-deGrom, Syndergaard, Wheeler, Matz, Vargas
RP-Diaz, Kimbrel, Familia, Lugo, Gsellman, Wilson, Zamara
C-Ramos, Nido
IF-Alonso, Smith, Cano, Rosario, Lowrie, Davis, Hechavarria
OF-Nimmo, McNeil, Conforto, Lagares
Put Rosario leadoff with his speed and bat McNeil second
Get fucking Cano down to bottom of order and Alonso third
Calloway will be on a short leash if this road trip turns ugly
Put Rosario leadoff with his speed and bat McNeil second
Get fucking Cano down to bottom of order and Alonso third
Calloway will be on a short leash if this road trip turns ugly
not sure I agree to push Cano down. He's making decent contact and seeing the ball well but just keeps fouling off.
get this worked out now before ASB.
Maybe we get Cespedes back maybe we dont but if he comes back and acts like the asshole douchebag he was last year, 60 day IL him.
They entered the season with Vargas as a 5th starter and zero depth behind him. We have been lucky that he hasnt been an automatic loss but we knew thats exactly whats going to happen as we need starts from anyone behind him.
They improved the BP but they didnt add depth so they were still susceptible to 1 or 2 volatile performers sinking the team.
Callaway sucks.
Infield defense sucks. Rosario has been a big culprit but the 3 guys around him havent helped at all. Some questioned if Alonso could play 1b at all and hes our best defensive infielder. What does that say about our IF?
Thankfully we still have a really good young core of position players + 3 good SP so this may be salvageable- but BVW has his work cut out for him and it looks like he dealt 1 of the top prospects in baseball sight unseen. He clearly did not remove as many ifs or add as much depth as he thought. Not sure what the move is though. Kimbrel or Keuchel dont improve the depth or defense on their own and they further weaken the system losing a pick. Think they need a pitching equivalent of the Kelly Johnson/Juan uribe trade. Not signing Gio was also retarded, but we knew that.
Been shut down by shitty pitching staffs for over a week now
How many years do we have to be last in the metrics before they decide to take it somewhat seriously? I'm still hoping for the best from Cano/Davis, but 1 look at both of those guys and it is obvious they are not going to be positive impact defenders. Even though he doesn't have a position, at least Davis can clearly hit. He may need to be our trade bait to add pitching.
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And his idiotic lineups
Put Rosario leadoff with his speed and bat McNeil second
Get fucking Cano down to bottom of order and Alonso third
Calloway will be on a short leash if this road trip turns ugly
not sure I agree to push Cano down. He's making decent contact and seeing the ball well but just keeps fouling off.
The excuses for Cano are going to come all year long. He's not providing any power, and he's a singles hitter when he does hit, which is rare nowadays. He's already over the cliff.
He needs to be dropped in the order yesterday.
Put Rosario leadoff with his speed and bat McNeil second
Get fucking Cano down to bottom of order and Alonso third
Calloway will be on a short leash if this road trip turns ugly
Agree with your suggested lineup changes, get this thing stabilized.
I'm afraid Dom Smith's highest and best use is as a Trade Chip. He's blocked at every position he could conceivably play. He might bring back a valuable piece. Frazier might be trade-bait too.....his Toddfather role is not enough to keep him around.
Put Rosario leadoff with his speed and bat McNeil second
Get fucking Cano down to bottom of order and Alonso third
Calloway will be on a short leash if this road trip turns ugly
Rosario doesn't have good at-bats. His approach is terrible and he swings at so, so many balls out of the zone. His OBP is terrible. I would bat him 9th before leadoff.
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And his idiotic lineups
Put Rosario leadoff with his speed and bat McNeil second
Get fucking Cano down to bottom of order and Alonso third
Calloway will be on a short leash if this road trip turns ugly
Rosario doesn't have good at-bats. His approach is terrible and he swings at so, so many balls out of the zone. His OBP is terrible. I would bat him 9th before leadoff.
Rosario is all screwed up from Calloway inconsistent lineups
He thrived last third of the year batting leadoff with McNeil second
Hes the only speed in the lineup. But Calloway doesnt believe it know how to utilize stole base and hit and run. McNeil perfect number two hitter
Cano batting third is just ridiculous As tear goes on he will get worse
Effects of PED
The problem with Cano is he hasn't been the all around consistent hitter and good professional batter he's always been.
He's on pace for 140 K's - which would be the most in his career by far.
He's on pace for 40 walks - which would be the least in his last 8 years.
He's on pace for 145 singles - which would be by the lowest in his career and 10 fewer than even his rookie season. 20 fewer hits than 2017. And almost 30 fewer than his pace from last year.
And since he's not getting any big hits he's only on pace for 55 RBI's. That's insane given the run production of players around him to this point and where he's hit in the lineup. He had that many RBI's in half of the season last year so I suppose that's 1 positive, he can get hot and produce in a hurry.
BVW went out on a big ledge to add his former client here. Everyone knew his age, everyone knew there was going to be big money attached somehow, and so far there are some concerning signs to say the least. He's looking like a 36 year old with diminishing athleticism. Need to trade for Jenry Mejia asap and put his locker next to Cano's.
Just shows, not every good position coach is a good manager.
I think the lineup funk is temporary, shit like this happens - and Callaway doesn't seem to be helping, but the need for another starter and another reliever is not temporary.
Just shows, not every good position coach is a good manager.
I think the lineup funk is temporary, shit like this happens - and Callaway doesn't seem to be helping, but the need for another starter and another reliever is not temporary.
Fans can only evaluate so much - many can give good press conferences and exciting quotes about how they're going to change things - far fewer can actually do it. When Maddon was available fans pretty unanimously wanted him too. This has seemingly proven to be a case of inexperience overriding all other factors. Alex Cora and Aaron Boone both have seemingly not had that same issue. Like any hiring decision the devil is in the details.
Agree about the lineup being in a funk. Lowrie could be a big piece in the 2 hole to stabilize things and move Alonso to a more natural spot hitting 4th maybe. A lineup with McNeil, Conforto, and Alonso doesn't need to much more to be solid. Cano and Nimmo getting going would obviously be huge boosts as well.
The IF defense and pitching depth are the longer term concerns without an obvious longer term cure. If we're keeping score the fanbase was just about unanimously right about the latter. More were also skeptical of Cano's agelessness than not, though there's a lot of time left to see how that plays out. 5 years I guess.
They haven't batted out of order yet.
Send Nimmo and Rosario down for a trip to heal mentally. No time better than now w Lowrie and Dom Smith available. Nimmo May break Chris Davis record at this pace.
Callaway needs to go. Its cringe worthy every time they show him on tv or interview him w his stupid Homer Simpson answers.
They need a long man or 6th SP. their depth there is a joke.
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I thought he was hired to prevent Callaway from making dumb decisions. So far what's different? So what does Riggleman do?
They haven't batted out of order yet.
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When the season started the hitting looked unstoppable and the pitching was sub par to below average now its the opposite.
Seriously are we Yankee fans or Mets fans?
When the season started the hitting looked unstoppable and the pitching was sub par to below average now its the opposite.
Seriously are we Yankee fans or Mets fans?
what the fuck do the Yankees have to do with anything?
the Mets have been a shit show for a few weeks, fans who are perfectly calm and rational can discuss it without some asshole telling them to "relax"
Calloway has already done this a bunch already this season and I will never understand it.
Frazier sucks just as much and his 8 million dollars need to go
Lagares sucks and his 9 million dollars need to go
Ramos was a pitiful signing Broughthim in for defense and he cant frame or catch His bat looks slow
Cano looks OLD. PED problem catching up
Although Im a fan of Diaz Im sick to see how great Kelenic will be and Dunn pitching well
Cano will be DH in a year or two but will no longer hit
Brodie gets an F so far
Although Calloway wasnt his choice he needs to get rid of him ASAP. Joe Giratdi is out there
Also, how did Yelich suddenly become this great power hitter the second he went to Milwaukee? The jump in his production is not normal.
Also, how did Yelich suddenly become this great power hitter the second he went to Milwaukee? The jump in his production is not normal.
Happens all the time as players hone their craft and reach their peak years. He was very good in Florida - just an absurd salary dump trade.
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a PED suspension on the second half of a 10 year contract. Seattle absolutely fleeced Brodie. Hated it when it happened and still do.
Also, how did Yelich suddenly become this great power hitter the second he went to Milwaukee? The jump in his production is not normal.
Happens all the time as players hone their craft and reach their peak years. He was very good in Florida - just an absurd salary dump trade.
What Yelich is doing does not happen all the time. Yes, he was good in Miami, but to suddenly more than double your HR production in year 6 of your career and then to hit 15 in the first month of the next season? Not normal.
After 18 inning yesterday I get some of the rest going around, but this doesn't make sense to me. IMO vs this MIL lineup what are shaky BPers or MiLBers (Peterson, who pitched yesterday???) gonna do for 5 innings even if they got a few runs right there?
Taking him on, even just the net amount (60m?), was a big risk vs. just signing someone like Donaldson at a position that was open or even just targeting a cheaper/younger alternative like Lowrie from the outset. Purely in terms of $, it goes without saying the only reason to invest 2-3x the amount those guys cost in the older Cano was if they thought he was going to be an all star for at least a year or two and leading the team to the playoffs.
Here are some stats to put this season into context for Cano - YTD he has 117 AB's and his OPS is .695 - which will probably be about 20% of his year.
Looking at the combined splits of his 3 prior seasons, he didn't have a single one of those months cumulatively under a .700 OPS and there was no trend of prolonged slow starts. Over those 3 years his April OPS is .811 in 285 ABs. His May OPS is .954 in 231 ABs. June .845 in 226 ABs. So this is not just a typical slow start. His lowest month was July with a .709 OPS in 195 AB's. He also sported a BA over .300 in 4/6 months, so I guess we just need to hope this was a bad month and he will go on a tear for 4 of the next 5 of the season. It is what this team will need to get to the playoffs. And for the signature move of BVW's first offseason to not be Robbie Alomar II.
SMH
Taking him on, even just the net amount (60m?), was a big risk vs. just signing someone like Donaldson at a position that was open or even just targeting a cheaper/younger alternative like Lowrie from the outset. Purely in terms of $, it goes without saying the only reason to invest 2-3x the amount those guys cost in the older Cano was if they thought he was going to be an all star for at least a year or two and leading the team to the playoffs.
Here are some stats to put this season into context for Cano - YTD he has 117 AB's and his OPS is .695 - which will probably be about 20% of his year.
Looking at the combined splits of his 3 prior seasons, he didn't have a single one of those months cumulatively under a .700 OPS and there was no trend of prolonged slow starts. Over those 3 years his April OPS is .811 in 285 ABs. His May OPS is .954 in 231 ABs. June .845 in 226 ABs. So this is not just a typical slow start. His lowest month was July with a .709 OPS in 195 AB's. He also sported a BA over .300 in 4/6 months, so I guess we just need to hope this was a bad month and he will go on a tear for 4 of the next 5 of the season. It is what this team will need to get to the playoffs. And for the signature move of BVW's first offseason to not be Robbie Alomar II.
Im giving BVW an F because hes added three older players to this roster at the cost of tens of millions
Lowrie. Ramos. Cano
And he shouldve gotten rid of Vargas. Frazier and Lagares
Reality is, this trade reeked of desperation. Id almost feel a little better if it were not for the PEDs. If a 35 year old feels that he needs PEDs to perform, it doesnt inspire much confidence when hes caught, and then off PEDs at 36 years old. Especially at the twilight of his career. The PEDs alone should have torpedoed Canos trade value...and certainly since we were the only team looking to trade for Cano. We bid against ourselves. It was a really bad trade.
I do, however, look forward to the I told you so comments when he has a good week. You know its coming.
Reality is, this trade reeked of desperation. Id almost feel a little better if it were not for the PEDs. If a 35 year old feels that he needs PEDs to perform, it doesnt inspire much confidence when hes caught, and then off PEDs at 36 years old. Especially at the twilight of his career. The PEDs alone should have torpedoed Canos trade value...and certainly since we were the only team looking to trade for Cano. We bid against ourselves. It was a really bad trade.
I do, however, look forward to the I told you so comments when he has a good week. You know its coming.
Honestly, I don't care what comes with it, I will be thrilled if he ends this season worth as many wins as he did last year in 80 games.
Someone get Flexen off the greyhound to Syracuse. He's got another game to lose.
Of course now we got the 'heart' of the lineup w/ Frazier Broxton Lagares Nido & pitcher's spot...5 straight outs
There's 1 on 1 pitch, thanks Todd!
Of course Hader coming out Top 9th
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Mets are 11-17 since 5-1 start.
And 7-14 last 21.
Nimmo: I love Nimmo. Says all the right things. A stand up guy. Plays hard. But he is looking like a 4th OFer.
And to top it off, Jay Bruce has 11 HRs, two more than Nimmo and Conforto combined.
Mets really need Cespedes to come back strong. In the meantime, JD Davis has to play either at 3B or in the OF. JD is not a savior but Nimmo and Frazier are killing this team right now. JD needs to be in the lineup
Forearm pain is a sign of torn elbow ligaments. Hope for the best, expect the worst
Separately it sounds like there's some disagreement between Nimmo + Callaway on adjustments. If there was 1 guy who was a much better fit for the old system and old hitting coaches vs. Callaway's desired approach it was Nimmo. Guess we will find out how much Chili Davis has learned about letting each player stick with what works for them.
Does Callaway make it past Memorial day if the next 2-3 weeks don't go well? After 3 games vs. the Padres it's 13 in a row vs. Miami or Washington. If they can't back get on track now and stop losing series, or even worse if they nose dive like last year, BVW has a decision to make.
They still lost 3-2 but at least the bullpen kept them in the game, and Diaz, Lugo and GMan will all be rested
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