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NFT: IIHF Hockey World Championships Start Today (Hughes/Kakko)

pjcas18 : 5/10/2019 10:34 am
and you will be able to see a few draft prospects, and some great hockey.

this is becoming better than the Olympics since many elite pro players see this as a great opportunity to play for their country.

Besides Hughes (USA) and Kakko (Finland) some notables on various rosters:

USA:
Kane
Larkin
Gaudreau
Debrincat
Eichel
Kreider
Fox (NYR)
Hanifin
Quinn Hughes
Skjei
JVR
Colin White
Alec Martinez
Suter
Jack Hughes

Canada
Couturier
Turris
Reinhart
Stone
Mantha
Cirelli
Chabot
Nurse
Montour
Marchessault
Strome (Dylan)
Henrique
Bertuzzi (tyler)
Fabbro
Severson
Carter Hart

Russia (loaded)
Ovi
Malkin
Kovalchuk
Kucherov
Kuznetsov
Sergachev
vasilevsky
Dadonov
Georgiev (NYR)
Sorokin (NYI)
Anisimov
Zaitsev
Orlov

Sweden:
Pettersson
Lundqvist (NYR)
Lindholm
Nylander
Hornqvist
Bratt (NJD)
Kempe
OEL
Ekholm
Larsson

Fins
(Kakko mentioned)
Jokiharju

and not much else people would recognize

Slovaks:
Sekera
Panik
tatar
Cernak

Czechs:
Gudas
Simon
Vrana
Palat
Chytil (NYR)
Voracek
Frolik


USA vs Slovakia today I think at 2:15

Long tourney, 7 prelim games before the medal round.

Rosters also fluctuate somewhat as teams are eliminated from NHL and juniors playoffs.
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Sorry  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 8:35 am : link
2:15 ET for USA vs Canada, not 10:30.
Werenski in  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 10:50 am : link
Wolanin (likely) out.

Also Gaudreau apparently healthy so means a F sits. Likely recently added Luke Kunin, but possible Hughes gets the clipboard.

Jost in on D for Canada and Matt Murray in net.
Puck drop coming up  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 2:15 pm : link
Canada lineup. Good, and they've played better than the US, but US can win if their D shows up. Canada D can be weak link, love Chabot, not a huge fan of the rest.

irony? Canada PP 1st in tourney over 65%. Canada PP coach? MTL assistant Kirk Muller - leader of the NHL worst PP. Soemtimes it's the players not the coach.

US D  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 2:18 pm : link
gets abused by Mark Stone and Pierre Luc-Dubois.

this will be a long game if they don't get their heads out of their ass.

Martinez and Suter both following the puck.

under 2 min in, 1 - 0 Canada.
No  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 2:19 pm : link
Jack Hughes.

Luke Kunin over Jack Hughes. Not sure about that.
Mantha  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 2:27 pm : link
Turris 2 - 1, make it look easy.

2 - 0 Canada.
It gets worse  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 2:45 pm : link
for the US. Looks like their best player in this tourney so far, Dylan Larkin, out after blocking a shot.
Finally  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 2:46 pm : link
US separates Martinez and Suter, they were brutal all tournament.

Werenski playing with Suter now.
Dagger  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 3:32 pm : link
IMO. right after a Canadian goal waived off for high stick they score making it 3-0.

Alec Martinez on for all 3. Not a good format for him.

At this point US plays Russia, and it will be a blowout.
Is Adam Fox  
Jay in Toronto : 5/21/2019 4:17 pm : link
on ice at all?
RE: Is Adam Fox  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14451348 Jay in Toronto said:
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on ice at all?


Not that I noticed since the 1st.
US loses  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2019 4:25 pm : link
3 - 0, but the game wasn't that close.

US will be annihilated by Russia on Thursday.

that's the penalty for losing to Slovakia. Their only win of the tournament.
From the Devils Mouth  
JPinstripes : 5/21/2019 5:08 pm : link
New Jersey Devils
‏Verified account @NJDevils

Dont put too much stock into how Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko are performing at #IIHFWorlds. So much more goes into consideration for the first overall pick according to #NJDevils Director of Amateur Scouting Paul Castron.
Cant go wrong  
Giantfootball025 : 5/21/2019 5:14 pm : link
with either. Its current performance vs future performance. Hughes is the top player in this draft, and is the #1 on every scouting service board. Hockey more than anything typically always nails the #1s. Its a great time to be a Rangers fan and as much as it pains me to say a Devil fan as well. Going to be a fun few years watching these guys play against one another.
Also if you look at Pronman's latest rankings  
Jay in Toronto : 5/21/2019 5:31 pm : link
with Turcotte (3#) and Caufield (#5) and with the Rangers own Miller all playing fo the Badgers next year, that will be a fun team to watch :)

He also ranks Hughes as a level above Kakko.
RE: RE: Is Adam Fox  
Jay in Toronto : 5/21/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14451352 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14451348 Jay in Toronto said:


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on ice at all?



Not that I noticed since the 1st.


Thanks. I watched the thirs and didn't see him either.
Mantha  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2019 11:51 am : link
suspended for a hit to the head for the QF game.

Went un-called led to Canda 3rd goal, while Derek Ryan lay bloody on the ice behind the play.

Pretty sure US lost Larkin for their QF due to injury. Shouldn't matter though, Russia is a juggernaut.
Not necessarily a bad thing  
Anakim : 5/22/2019 1:30 pm : link
If Fox doesn't shit the bed and get called out on it, I consider that a good thing
Fox hasn't done anything notable  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2019 1:33 pm : link
that I've seen.

And he's hasn't been as bad as Alec Martinez. Holy shit is he struggling - and he even got player of the game against someone b/c he had 2 goals.

But he's being abused defensively.
RE: Fox hasn't done anything notable  
Anakim : 5/22/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14452240 pjcas18 said:
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that I've seen.

And he's hasn't been as bad as Alec Martinez. Holy shit is he struggling - and he even got player of the game against someone b/c he had 2 goals.

But he's being abused defensively.


I don't mind that. Okay so he hasn't shown up on offense, but as long as his defense is solid I'm content.
USA Russia today at 10:15  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 9:15 am : link
I'm watching and hoping for a US win, but really want to see the display the Russians put on.

Ovi, Malkin, Kovalchuk, Kucherov, Kuznetzov, Dadanov, Vasilevsky

not much different than what it would be in an Olympics with NHL players. Tarasenko, only one off the top of my head missing.
Has  
Jay in Toronto : 5/23/2019 10:01 am : link
Georgie played?
RE: Has  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14453334 Jay in Toronto said:
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Georgie played?


2 games, 2 shutouts.

Russia has only allowed 7 goals in 7 games.
1 - 0  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:19 am : link
Russia a minute in.
RE: 1 - 0  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14453360 pjcas18 said:
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Russia a minute in.


Ah, the classic Rangers' style of giving up a goal in the first few minutes
Hughes  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:22 am : link
active
RE: RE: Has  
Anakim : 5/23/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14453349 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14453334 Jay in Toronto said:


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Georgie played?



2 games, 2 shutouts.

Russia has only allowed 7 goals in 7 games.



I know it's a small sample size, but I'd REALLY hate to lose Georgie because of Henrik's contract
Russia  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:33 am : link
a couple crossbars, outshooting US 10 - 2.

Hughes being knocked off the puck. Even looked like he was tripped twice - and usually INTL hockey is called much tighter than NHL, but no calls.

US has any hope they need some PP's
Now they call  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:36 am : link
a bullshit penalty on Gaudreau. Figures.
I haven't seen every game, but from the ones I've seen  
Anakim : 5/23/2019 10:36 am : link
Hughes gets knocked off the puck VERY easily, whereas Kakko is so strong and well-built that he can withstand the harassment so to speak.
RE: I haven't seen every game, but from the ones I've seen  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:38 am : link
In comment 14453394 Anakim said:
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Hughes gets knocked off the puck VERY easily, whereas Kakko is so strong and well-built that he can withstand the harassment so to speak.


Watching in this tournament Kakko looks strong obviously but the skating gap is MASSIVE. Doesn't mean it's a predictor of NHL success or not, but Hughes can fly.
Russia  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:39 am : link
converts on the bullshit PP, Sergachev goal from the point (tipped by Eichel)
RE: RE: I haven't seen every game, but from the ones I've seen  
Anakim : 5/23/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14453398 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14453394 Anakim said:


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Hughes gets knocked off the puck VERY easily, whereas Kakko is so strong and well-built that he can withstand the harassment so to speak.



Watching in this tournament Kakko looks strong obviously but the skating gap is MASSIVE. Doesn't mean it's a predictor of NHL success or not, but Hughes can fly.


Is it speed or is it more technique? Hughes looks fast to me, but he doesn't have BLAZING speed (like a Hagelin or a Kreider). However, he can cut the corner and wiggle through traffic with the best of 'em.
Speed  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 10:45 am : link
edge work, vision.

reminds me of Crosby without the puck.

He and Kane look like the best players for the US so far.
Sweet goal  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:08 am : link
Hanifin from Kane.

Cuts the lead to 2 - 1.
Kuznetzov  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:17 am : link
with a late and dirty hit on Hughes. Goes to the box.

Russia definitely targeting Hughes.

US on PP, much better period so far
Kreider  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:19 am : link
spoon feeds Kunin and Kunin misses the net.

Larkin being out hurts the US.
Vasilvesky  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:21 am : link
robs Gaudreau.

what I thought would be a blowout turning into a good game.
As soon as I type that  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:27 am : link
Russia back to dominating, like a shooting gallery, Schneider keeping US in the game after the past couple shifts.
RE: Sweet goal  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:36 am : link
In comment 14453443 pjcas18 said:
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Hanifin from Kane.

Cuts the lead to 2 - 1.


Sorry that was Skjei, not Hanifin
Clayton  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:53 am : link
turns it over, Suter out of position, Russia scores on a 2 on 1.
This time it's Hanifin  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 11:59 am : link
on the set up from Jack Hughes.

3 - 2.
US gives it right back  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:01 pm : link
Werenski can't man up Dadanov and he feeds it over to Grigorenko
With the goalie  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:18 pm : link
out, Hughes with the steal, Kane to Denrincat to cut the lead to 1.

Russia challenges, for goalie interference
Good goal  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:20 pm : link
one goal game, 2:50 left in the 3rd.
US got  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:22 pm : link
hosed majorly, Russia turned the puck over to JVR down the slot, refs called offsides.
Russia  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:27 pm : link
hangs on, wins 4 - 3, better effort for the US than I thought. Hughes impressed, Kane, Eichel, Gaudreau.

Just not enough size or D.

Could have used Seth Jones.
Grigorenko...Shit. Haha  
Anakim : 5/23/2019 12:29 pm : link
I remember I wanted Grigorenko a few years ago when our C depth was shit...and we ended up signing Desharnais.
Canada  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:41 pm : link
avoids another embarrassing elimination (for now) and ties Switzerland with .4 seconds left.

3 on 3 OT coming up right now.
Stone ends  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2019 12:50 pm : link
it in OT for Canada.
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