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One key trait likely led the Giants to draft Ryan Connelly

BSIMatt : 5/13/2019 11:39 am
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Connelly may not be the fastest linebacker, he may not boast the most athletic profile, and he was not one of the most accomplished players to enter the draft at his position, but he is one of the quickest linebackers to enter the NFL since the 2010 season. According to research from Austin Gayle at Pro Football Focus, Connelly ran the third-quickest 10-yard split (1.54 seconds) of any off-ball linebacker that weighed in at 240-plus pounds at the NFL Combine since 2010.

Connelly's game is predicated on quickness and burst and it is backed up both on game tape and his 10-yard split. Connelly is an aggressive-natured linebacker who trusts his instincts and bursts through the line of scrimmage to disrupt the play both vs. the pass and run. This is exactly the style of linebacker that meshes with Giants defensive coordinator James Bettcher. In an optimal world, Bettcher's defense will feature multiple "island" cornerbacks left alone in man coverage. In addition, Bettcher's ideal defense will feature seven to nine players (linemen, linebackers, safeties) who all have the capability to attack downhill on the line of scrimmage (to disrupt vs. the run or pass) or drop in coverage.

Connelly combines his instincts, vision, quickness, and burst to disrupt the play and it shows up both in his game tape and his advanced stats. According to PFF, Connelly finished with an overall grade higher than Michigan linebacker and No. 10 overall draft pick Devin Bush. Connelly also finished with a top-15 pass rush grade overall (among off-ball linebackers) and he only allowed 46 total yards after the catch on all receptions allowed -- the best mark among all linebackers in the 2019 draft class. Taking it one step further, Connelly allowed just 0.38 passing yards per coverage snap -- sixth-best in the class.


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This guy is one of the more intriguing 5th round picks  
Giantz_comeback : 5/13/2019 11:42 am : link
We have drafted in a while.

There is a lot to like. This guy along with Love could be our steals of this draft.
It seems like our draft picks are a lot more well thought out  
BestFeature : 5/13/2019 11:43 am : link
for our system than under Reese and Ross.
Loved the pick instantly  
GothamGiants : 5/13/2019 11:45 am : link
He is taking Goodson’s job ... and I think he’ll be a very underrated pass rushing asset.

Love & Connelly were great day 3 additions
RE: It seems like our draft picks are a lot more well thought out  
Jay on the Island : 5/13/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14441648 BestFeature said:
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for our system than under Reese and Ross.

Well they are actual football players instead of great athletes trying to play football.
When Connelly was first drafted, a lot of people were wondering  
Brown Recluse : 5/13/2019 11:52 am : link
who he was and considered him a reach.

Now he's one of the quickest LB's and best pass rushers in the draft at his position.

Thats just funny to me is all.

Obviously I'm rooting for him to be an All Pro, but its definitely that time of year lol.
Many people thought  
Tuckrule : 5/13/2019 12:03 pm : link
We should have drafted the other Wisconsin linebacker but tape and combine numbers don’t lie
I'm really surprised this doesn't seem to come up much  
wonderback : 5/13/2019 12:16 pm : link
But the guy played with a rather severe injury his entire senior season. From Badgers Wire "Connelly tore the ab muscle off the pubic bone prior to the season and gutted it out for the Badgers."

Sounds pretty painful not to mention how it would affect your burst from a standing position. Could it be, when healed, he's even better than his tape has shown so far (which is pretty good!).
RE: When Connelly was first drafted, a lot of people were wondering  
Jay on the Island : 5/13/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14441669 Brown Recluse said:
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who he was and considered him a reach.

Now he's one of the quickest LB's and best pass rushers in the draft at his position.

Thats just funny to me is all.

Obviously I'm rooting for him to be an All Pro, but its definitely that time of year lol.

It's funny what can happen when people actually research a player before the criticize them.
Thanks for the post.  
Since1965 : 5/13/2019 12:27 pm : link
Good info. Hope he's the real deal.
In a mention  
YANKEE28 : 5/13/2019 12:43 pm : link
from Paul Schwartz yesterday we learned that Connelly played his Senior season injured and had surgery December 11th the resolve a "core muscle" issue. Connelly is healthy now.
RE: RE: When Connelly was first drafted, a lot of people were wondering  
GothamGiants : 5/13/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14441728 Jay on the Island said:
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who he was and considered him a reach.

Now he's one of the quickest LB's and best pass rushers in the draft at his position.

Thats just funny to me is all.

Obviously I'm rooting for him to be an All Pro, but its definitely that time of year lol.


It's funny what can happen when people actually research a player before the criticize them.


This ... Informed decisions > irrational overrreaction

I love Connelly ... 4.6 speed with pass rushing ability and an elite short area burst coincides with his scouting reports/“tape”.

He’s a good player. Great value in 5th
RE: It seems like our draft picks are a lot more well thought out  
DavidinBMNY : 5/13/2019 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14441648 BestFeature said:
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for our system than under Reese and Ross.
Interesting point. And one that should really make a difference in the overall defensive performance this year. FO/Coach alignment is something many coaches discuss. Parcells has the famous quote / analogy on this.
RE: It seems like our draft picks are a lot more well thought out  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/13/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14441648 BestFeature said:
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for our system than under Reese and Ross.

Not exactly Sintim, man press corner Prince for Fewell and Adrien Robinson for Gilbride.
RE: RE: It seems like our draft picks are a lot more well thought out  
Jay on the Island : 5/13/2019 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14441784 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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for our system than under Reese and Ross.


Not exactly Sintim, man press corner Prince for Fewell and Adrien Robinson for Gilbride.

Your reading comprehension is awful.
I don't know how  
Now Mike in MD : 5/13/2019 2:31 pm : link
a guy his size with 4.6 speed and that short area burst can be considered unathletic
RE: I don't know how  
Jay on the Island : 5/13/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14441869 Now Mike in MD said:
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a guy his size with 4.6 speed and that short area burst can be considered unathletic

High Motor White Guy!
May have been posted  
Now Mike in MD : 5/13/2019 2:42 pm : link
but in these highlights I see him running down WRs a couple times and faster QBs, like McSorley. Does not look slow ish or unathletic.

PS I realize these are highlights for a reason
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Now Mike in MD : 5/13/2019 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14441881 Jay on the Island said:
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a guy his size with 4.6 speed and that short area burst can be considered unathletic


High Motor White Guy!


I think just calling him High Motor is cheapening his athleticism. Although he does have a motor as well
When the Giants made the pick  
Phil in LA : 5/13/2019 2:47 pm : link
I thought they were back in Pete Monty default mode., then I watched his tape.... good stuff.
His “athletic profile” is better than CJ Mosley  
GothamGiants : 5/13/2019 2:52 pm : link
Very underrated athlete

People see white LB from Wisconsin and just assume “lunch pail blue collar grinder with his motor set on high” ... whether they want to admit it or not

He’s a good player. Glad he’s a Giant
Looking fwd to him  
Jim Bur(n)t : 5/13/2019 2:56 pm : link
play - Hoping he can quickly unseat Goodson.
RE: I'm really surprised this doesn't seem to come up much  
RAIN : 5/13/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14441713 wonderback said:
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But the guy played with a rather severe injury his entire senior season. From Badgers Wire "Connelly tore the ab muscle off the pubic bone prior to the season and gutted it out for the Badgers."

Sounds pretty painful not to mention how it would affect your burst from a standing position. Could it be, when healed, he's even better than his tape has shown so far (which is pretty good!).


I agree, I’ve been jumping up and down about this for awhile. I’m sure the giants feel like he would have been able to use his AA more if he had been healthy. He had a hitch In his movement, that this explains. It was fixed, reattached a couple months prior to the combine.

They haven’t come out and said it, but I believe they targeted him thinking they are getting something more than what they saw on tape.
not related to Connelly, but  
Bill in UT : 5/13/2019 3:16 pm : link
didn't Goodson come along with the reputation of being a tackling machine?
RE: RE: RE: I don't know how  
Vanzetti : 5/13/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14441906 Now Mike in MD said:
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In comment 14441869 Now Mike in MD said:


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a guy his size with 4.6 speed and that short area burst can be considered unathletic


High Motor White Guy!



I think just calling him High Motor is cheapening his athleticism. Although he does have a motor as well


To avoid racial profiling, can we call him a High Motor Irish Guy?
The last time (before Goodson who isn't chopped liver  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/13/2019 3:41 pm : link
by any means) the Giants drafted an LB I liked he was Jon Goff MLB Vanderbilt. And he had very good combine #s, similar to Connelly and another guy they drafted that year: Kehl. Kehl was widely more highly regarded by the media and pundits and guys like Gil Brantd IIRC, and Goff was called "unathletic" and specifically "stiff hipped". Digging around Goff, trying to find tape (there wasn't much of him) I liked Goff, and I really liked that in HS he was a stat champion shot putter and discus thrower. Who the heck is a champion discus thrower with "stiff hips?"

The stiff hips criticism was more of a misread of a Mike LB that wasn't particularly "instinctive", and didn't really trust his reads enough, something that can be coached up.
Meanwhile, the more apparently athletic Kehl was allergic to taking on blockers, and really hitting, so he sucked at the NFL level, and Goff as he learned to trust his reads was just starting to blossom, when a knee injury cut his career short.

We'll have a much better idea what we've got in Connelly once the team straps on pads and goes full contact, and once we see him perform on STs which will be his first job surely.

Some context for RCs 10 yard split  
BSIMatt : 5/13/2019 4:38 pm : link
Golden Tate, at 5’10 and 199lbs ran a 1.54 10 yard split on his 4.42 forty.
Odell at around similar size ran 1.57 split on his 4.43 forty.
Saquon at 6ft 233 ran 1.54 split on his 4.40 forty.

This is what the Badgers do  
Jay in Toronto : 5/13/2019 4:52 pm : link
They take high school three-stars who have something and coach and weight-room them up. They've been doing it with OL for years, and, if you've been paying attention, with LBs more recently.

As I've said previously, here is a smart athlete who has heen tutored by Aranda then Wilcox then Leonhard as a 3-4 LB.

I love the potential of the synergy of Lawrence and Connelly.
RE: Loved the pick instantly  
section125 : 5/13/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14441658 GothamGiants said:
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He is taking Goodson’s job ... and I think he’ll be a very underrated pass rushing asset.

Love & Connelly were great day 3 additions


Goodson is not some pushover. Connelly will have to beat him out.
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ColHowPepper : 5/13/2019 5:40 pm : link
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'Goodson is not some pushover. Connelly is going to have to beat him out'.
Sure he is. But Goodson is entering, what, his 4th year? He is just not a + player. He has some power, some heft, but he does not move well, is part of the ILB coverage problem, along with DG's 'signature' signing at ILB. As far as 'tackling machine'? Meh.

This is not to annoint Connelly as the second coming, but let's not crown Goodson as some all-star. Please.

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Digging around Goff, trying to find tape (there wasn't much of him) I liked Goff, and I really liked that in HS he was a stat champion shot putter and discus thrower. Who the heck is a champion discus thrower with "stiff hips?"

The stiff hips criticism was more of a misread of a Mike LB that wasn't particularly "instinctive", and didn't really trust his reads enough, something that can be coached up.
That was an excerpt. I didn't like Goff as much as he did, but to say 'instinctive' can be coached up, come on!! I think that's the last quality you want to coach up and the first you want to see in a football player. As to the rest, the Kehl stuff was spot on. !st pick on Day 3 and Brandt was creaming in his pants. LOL

And every time I see reference to Adrien Robinson: 'a gift to Gilbride'.....????? LMFAO. The exquisite JPP of TEs analogy, almost as much a jewel as waiting for Beckett (well done, Klaatu!!!) I have no fucking idea what R&R saw in him. Aside from no passing game at UCinn when he played there, Robinson was the most lumbering, klutzy, clod-breaking human being in a football uniform at a supposed position of athleticism I've ever seen!!

And, BSIMatt, nice post.
RE: When Connelly was first drafted, a lot of people were wondering  
EricJ : 5/13/2019 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14441669 Brown Recluse said:
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who he was and considered him a reach.

Now he's one of the quickest LB's and best pass rushers in the draft at his position.

Thats just funny to me is all.


it is pretty simple...
BBI and most fans are watching the mock drafts and learn about the top handful of players. They know little if anything about the guys who would be selected later.

So, the name is called and since fans dont know the guy, you get this reach comment. Meanwhile, you can bet that every GM knew who he was.

Then, fans get a chance to actually read up on the guy and watch some youtube videos (lol).... and they start to warm up to him.

Goodson  
TommyWiseau : 5/13/2019 8:13 pm : link
is a stiff, he does not impress me at all. He is an average Inside Linebacker
CHP - you misread what I was saying slightly about Goff.  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/13/2019 8:39 pm : link
Fair enough not liking him as much as I did, but I wasn't suggesting you can coach up instincts like LT type instinct for the game, and that's why I put quotation marks around it. Instints like LT had are extremely rare, a 6th Sense for the game.

But what many observes call "instincts" are in fact reads, especially LBs and DBs, making really good reads, based on formations perhaps or blocking patterns of the OL. I know the difference, I played Mike LB I HS ball.

It's one thing to see an OG block down on an NT, and go plug or shoot the gap he's created the moment he blocks down... Making those reads and reacting to them instantly is coachable. Goff was beginning to get that as a Giant and began shooting gaps based on reads as a pro that he didn't execute much at Vandy, in the little Vandy tape I saw of him.

With Connelly, I'm not savvy enough to know if he shoots gaps and makes TFLs based on instinct or simply good intelligent reads. Is he a film junkie? He scored darn high on the wonderlic for a defensive player. That's a good thing I think.

So long as he also likes hitting people and has some ability to stack and shed.
RE: May have been posted  
Joe in CT : 5/14/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14441903 Now Mike in MD said:
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but in these highlights I see him running down WRs a couple times and faster QBs, like McSorley. Does not look slow ish or unathletic.

PS I realize these are highlights for a reason Link - ( New Window )


What I like best about RC is that he is a text book tackler, does not look to blow up the QB or ball carrier, just wraps up and gets them down. This has been missing from our LB Corps for a while now, need to see better form tackling, this guy seems to bring it. Hope he has a long career with Big Blue.
OP  
Percy : 5/14/2019 11:22 am : link
Thanks. Informative article and reason for optimism about Connelly.
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