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Remmers OFFICIALLY SIGNS

90.Cal : 5/13/2019 4:08 pm
Brett Tessler
@TesslerSports
Mike Remmers just signed his contract with the Giants and can't wait to get to work with his new teammates and coaches!
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RE: it will take time to gel  
Jay on the Island : 5/13/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14442221 islander1 said:
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but Saquon has got to be excited for this.

We're going to run. Try and stop us.

Veteran offensive linemen form a cohesive unit much faster than rookies. Adding Zeitler and Remmers will have a big impact on Barkley and that's not counting the improvement that we will see from Hernandez next season. Also Halapio should be an upgrade over Pulley and Greco.
...  
christian : 5/13/2019 5:32 pm : link
I expect Barkely to have a very productive season. I hope the WRs show they can get separation and force teams to not stack the box.

If they cannot, this offensive will much like last year -- huge numbers from Barkley -- but a pedestrian run game.

What can't happen is volume passing to Barkley at a low YPC.

You can put lipstick on that pig and call it an extension of the run game, but what it really means is fewer big plays and yards.
Wow  
mittenedman : 5/13/2019 5:34 pm : link
he looks a lot like Geoff Schwartz in that video. I've never really seen him play.
Usually I find myself being the optimist, and I am mildly optimistic  
Ira : 5/13/2019 5:38 pm : link
about this signing. He's definitely an upgrade over Wheeler. But I wouldn't expect anything more than average from him, and that's only if he stays healthy. Back injuries have a way of becoming chronic.
I like how he has his head of when he blocks  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/13/2019 5:46 pm : link
looking for the stunts. Something that was a complete disaster last year.
He and the RG  
lono801 : 5/13/2019 5:47 pm : link
Did a very good job picking up stunts. The same page without doubt.

I have not seen a NY O-line do that in ages.
RE: BTW  
BillT : 5/13/2019 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14442197 Eric from BBI said:
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Notice the man's run blocking in the video. He and Zeitler are going to create some big lanes over there.

Not to mention the other side where Solder and Hernandez are both good run blockers.
RE: He and the RG  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/13/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14442281 lono801 said:
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Did a very good job picking up stunts. The same page without doubt.

I have not seen a NY O-line do that in ages.


You caught that too? We've been dreadful picking up stunts on the right side for years and years.
They were a thing of beauty...  
lono801 : 5/13/2019 6:08 pm : link
They jumped out at me...
on 2 of the  
YANKEE28 : 5/13/2019 6:13 pm : link
plays on that video, he is lined up at LT.
RE: on 2 of the  
GothamGiants : 5/13/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14442309 YANKEE28 said:
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plays on that video, he is lined up at LT.


Itís actually an ďunbalancedĒ OL


Unbalanced OL - ( New Window )
I'm tempted to say  
Poktown Pete : 5/13/2019 6:25 pm : link
A cunning array of stunts!
Canít say Iíve seen him play  
Jerz44 : 5/13/2019 6:30 pm : link
But my expectations were tempered when reading the NFL board on Reddit. A lot of Vikings fans and Panthers fans were pretty down on him.
RE: Canít say Iíve seen him play  
GothamGiants : 5/13/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14442329 Jerz44 said:
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But my expectations were tempered when reading the NFL board on Reddit. A lot of Vikings fans and Panthers fans were pretty down on him.


1. He got beat by Von Miller in the SB, so panthers fans hate him
2. The Vikings played him out of position at G after giving him a big contract to play RT. He played poorly at G and was let go.
RE: Canít say Iíve seen him play  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/13/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14442329 Jerz44 said:
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But my expectations were tempered when reading the NFL board on Reddit. A lot of Vikings fans and Panthers fans were pretty down on him.


He's a career journeyman. He's a short term pickup, not really a solution. It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place.

RE: I'm tempted to say  
Vanzetti : 5/13/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14442323 Poktown Pete said:
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A cunning array of stunts!



i see what you did there
I hope the kid from Kentucky is given a shot to compete with Remmers  
Go Terps : 5/13/2019 7:00 pm : link
Let the best man win the job.
Remmer is a  
XBRONX : 5/13/2019 7:02 pm : link
solid RT. Teams have played him at time at G and LT. Rookie has zero chance to beat him out.
All we need  
TommyWiseau : 5/13/2019 7:12 pm : link
Him to do is be healthy and hold down the fort for a year while Wheeler develops and maybe we grab another OT in FA or the Draft next year
Really like his footwork and his ability to handle stunts  
montanagiant : 5/13/2019 7:18 pm : link
Some excellent run blocking in that highlights clip
RE: RE: He and the RG  
Diver_Down : 5/13/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14442299 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14442281 lono801 said:


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Did a very good job picking up stunts. The same page without doubt.

I have not seen a NY O-line do that in ages.



You caught that too? We've been dreadful picking up stunts on the right side for years and years.


Chalk it up to such dreadful play that has caused selective amnesia. After picking up Jamon Brown off waivers last year, he was playing in his first game against San Fran. After a San Fran turnover in the red zone, Eli threw a TD that was only possible because Jamon picked up a stunt. BBI and the collective wisdom of the game thread was ready to cast Brown's bust in Canton. Jamon Brown's Stunt Show
Looks like we all  
Dave on the UWS : 5/13/2019 8:38 pm : link
noticed the good technique in handling stunts. It also jumped out at me when he got his hands on his man it was over. There are going to be some pretty good holes on the right side with him and Zeitler. The competition will be good for Wheeler, especially if Remmerís back acts up.
RE: RE: Canít say Iíve seen him play  
Klaatu : 5/13/2019 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14442353 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14442329 Jerz44 said:


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But my expectations were tempered when reading the NFL board on Reddit. A lot of Vikings fans and Panthers fans were pretty down on him.



He's a career journeyman. He's a short term pickup, not really a solution. It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place.



This again.

The fact is, once he was given a shot, he stuck. Two-and-a-half years with Carolina, starting every game, regular season and post-season, and then he left in free agency for Minnesota.

In his first year there he started eleven games at RT before getting hurt. His second year they moved him to RG and he started all 16 regular season games. Yes, he struggled at RG and the Vikings released him, and then he finally had the surgery to repair the injury to his lower back he'd suffered the previous year.
Diver  
lono801 : 5/13/2019 8:47 pm : link
Good stuff...uncharted territory the last few years

Iím sure Eli was shocked as well.

Sadly... you watch the rest of it... a stunt isnít even recognized
Why Was He Moved to RG?  
Samiam : 5/13/2019 8:49 pm : link
Why would Minn move up a decent RT to a position where heís not so good?
RE: Why Was He Moved to RG?  
Jay on the Island : 5/13/2019 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14442467 Samiam said:
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Why would Minn move up a decent RT to a position where heís not so good?

They drafted right tackle Brian O'Neill in round 2 last year.
Good, but comes with major concerns  
Dave in PA : 5/13/2019 9:01 pm : link
worth the gamble. Wouldnít be surprised to see Wheeler at RT for a concerning amount of snaps this year
RE: RE: Why Was He Moved to RG?  
Klaatu : 5/13/2019 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14442471 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14442467 Samiam said:


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Why would Minn move up a decent RT to a position where heís not so good?


They drafted right tackle Brian O'Neill in round 2 last year.


And they also had 2016 UDFA Rashod Hill, whom they're pretty high on.

Also note that Remmers could have restructured his contract to stay with the Vikings, but he chose not to.
RE: Diver  
Diver_Down : 5/13/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14442462 lono801 said:
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Good stuff...uncharted territory the last few years

Iím sure Eli was shocked as well.

Sadly... you watch the rest of it... a stunt isnít even recognized


We have been conditioned by such crappy play at RG that BBI was shocked by that play. I was part of the elation in the game thread. Who knows what happens if Brown didn't pick it up, but Eli would have taken a brutal hit. Now, Brown wasn't everything we had hoped as the season wore on. But he was the best RG we have had in years. There were plenty of threads in December speculating on what sort of contract we could sign him for. Thank goodness for Zeitler. He will provide stability on the right side which will help Halapio and Remmers.
Iím actually looking forward to it  
lono801 : 5/13/2019 9:16 pm : link
Is the Line perfect? Nope

But this is good stuff...

For once in years The Giants have a starting point. Not a Chinese Fire Dril

As for Wheeler? He looked the part from day one. Guess itís up to him now.
I like the signing  
rasbutant : 5/13/2019 9:18 pm : link
One thing i noticed watching his highlight video. I could predict if it was going to be a run or pass play just by watching his back leg. Never really focused on that before. Not sure if all lineman do that.
Come in healthy and do your job big guy.  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/13/2019 9:50 pm : link
Listen to Saquon when he tells you "just hook this guy" because SB will make you look good, big fella, real good.

Welcome to Big Blue.
How is he at blocking for the screen pass?  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/13/2019 9:51 pm : link
Either to the RB or to the TE...
RE: BTW  
eric2425ny : 5/13/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14442197 Eric from BBI said:
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Notice the man's run blocking in the video. He and Zeitler are going to create some big lanes over there.


Exactly, this will allow Barkley to run free and give Eli a chance to be a play action QB again, what he is best at. And from a future perspective, nothing helps out a young QB more than a solid offensive line.
One thing I like is  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
that tape shows that he knows how to pick up stunts. Tn the past several years no one on the right side could pick up a damn stunt. It was maddening
I would love  
Bleedin Blue : 5/13/2019 11:03 pm : link
To see Eli have as much time in the pocket like that!!
I won't call hima JAG, but he's not the solution.  
Optimus-NY : 5/13/2019 11:31 pm : link
He's yet another step in the right direction. Best put, he's what Parcells called a "hold the fort" type of player until the cavalry arrives. The fort is being held by Remmers and Halapio at Center. These two positions still need to be completely solidified.

At least RT is not an embarrassment anymore. Worst case scenario for Remmers is that he's a JAG, which is still better than Wheeler. Solders stil has some good years in him, but in another 2 to 3 years, he needs to be replaced too. That will be because of age in all likelihood, so there's still a lot of work to do. My one fear is that Halapio is s clear liability. Him not being replaced by someone who is at least not a JAG is very worrisome to me.
RE: RE: RE: Canít say Iíve seen him play  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2019 12:19 am : link
In comment 14442455 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14442353 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 14442329 Jerz44 said:


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But my expectations were tempered when reading the NFL board on Reddit. A lot of Vikings fans and Panthers fans were pretty down on him.



He's a career journeyman. He's a short term pickup, not really a solution. It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place.





This again.

The fact is, once he was given a shot, he stuck. Two-and-a-half years with Carolina, starting every game, regular season and post-season, and then he left in free agency for Minnesota.

In his first year there he started eleven games at RT before getting hurt. His second year they moved him to RG and he started all 16 regular season games. Yes, he struggled at RG and the Vikings released him, and then he finally had the surgery to repair the injury to his lower back he'd suffered the previous year.


He was with four teams in camps before he stuck, a non-player until his age 26 season. Whatever you want to call it is up to you, but now he's 30 with back issues. I don't know what you're objecting to. It's quite literally the definition of journeyman.
RE: Iím actually looking forward to it  
montanagiant : 5/14/2019 12:39 am : link
In comment 14442511 lono801 said:
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Is the Line perfect? Nope

But this is good stuff...

For once in years The Giants have a starting point. Not a Chinese Fire Dril

As for Wheeler? He looked the part from day one. Guess itís up to him now.

I'm with you brother lono!
Remmers is a stopgap average player...  
Torrag : 5/14/2019 12:49 am : link
...the good news is that he's significantly better than Wheeler who flat out stinks.
RE: ...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/14/2019 7:07 am : link
In comment 14442256 christian said:
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I expect Barkely to have a very productive season. I hope the WRs show they can get separation and force teams to not stack the box.

If they cannot, this offensive will much like last year -- huge numbers from Barkley -- but a pedestrian run game.

What can't happen is volume passing to Barkley at a low YPC.

You can put lipstick on that pig and call it an extension of the run game, but what it really means is fewer big plays and yards.

Constant passes to the flats are a no no, the sideline is a huge help for would be tacklers. Let Barkley kill tacklers in the middle of the field.
RE:  
Klaatu : 5/14/2019 7:26 am : link
In comment 14442634 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He's a career journeyman. He's a short term pickup, not really a solution. It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place.





This again.

The fact is, once he was given a shot, he stuck. Two-and-a-half years with Carolina, starting every game, regular season and post-season, and then he left in free agency for Minnesota.

In his first year there he started eleven games at RT before getting hurt. His second year they moved him to RG and he started all 16 regular season games. Yes, he struggled at RG and the Vikings released him, and then he finally had the surgery to repair the injury to his lower back he'd suffered the previous year.



He was with four teams in camps before he stuck, a non-player until his age 26 season. Whatever you want to call it is up to you, but now he's 30 with back issues. I don't know what you're objecting to. It's quite literally the definition of journeyman.


The fact remains that he did stick, so to say, " It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place" is not accurate. It's just like saying, "Remmers has been with eight teams in eight years." Technically, that's true, but without any context, it's deceptive.

I don't object to calling him a "journeyman." I don't object to calling him a "short term pickup," either. Is he a solution? That depends on what your problem is, and if it's that you need someone who's capable of playing Right Tackle for a season, problem solved.

There's no reason to knock this move or demean the player. It seems to me that negativity has become a reflex action around here. I guess that's understandable considering how bad the team has been for the last eight years, but still, when a step is taken in the right direction - even a baby step - it would be nice to see it accepted, if not applauded.
Solid upgrade badly needed at RT  
JonC : 5/14/2019 7:58 am : link
provided his back is healed up and ready to go. Buys DG a year to see if they can develop the UK rookie and/or hit the position against next offseason.
RE: RE: He and the RG  
Gettledogman : 5/14/2019 9:02 am : link
In comment 14442299 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14442281 lono801 said:


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Did a very good job picking up stunts. The same page without doubt.

I have not seen a NY O-line do that in ages.



You caught that too? We've been dreadful picking up stunts on the right side for years and years.


I love Gettlemans Plan! He literally turned the team over in 2 years. Just wow. This team is getting deeper and smarter and tougher and one I will want to root for.
RE: RE:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14442719 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14442634 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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He's a career journeyman. He's a short term pickup, not really a solution. It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place.





This again.

The fact is, once he was given a shot, he stuck. Two-and-a-half years with Carolina, starting every game, regular season and post-season, and then he left in free agency for Minnesota.

In his first year there he started eleven games at RT before getting hurt. His second year they moved him to RG and he started all 16 regular season games. Yes, he struggled at RG and the Vikings released him, and then he finally had the surgery to repair the injury to his lower back he'd suffered the previous year.



He was with four teams in camps before he stuck, a non-player until his age 26 season. Whatever you want to call it is up to you, but now he's 30 with back issues. I don't know what you're objecting to. It's quite literally the definition of journeyman.



The fact remains that he did stick, so to say, " It's a guy that's never really stuck in one place" is not accurate. It's just like saying, "Remmers has been with eight teams in eight years." Technically, that's true, but without any context, it's deceptive.

I don't object to calling him a "journeyman." I don't object to calling him a "short term pickup," either. Is he a solution? That depends on what your problem is, and if it's that you need someone who's capable of playing Right Tackle for a season, problem solved.

There's no reason to knock this move or demean the player. It seems to me that negativity has become a reflex action around here. I guess that's understandable considering how bad the team has been for the last eight years, but still, when a step is taken in the right direction - even a baby step - it would be nice to see it accepted, if not applauded.


I don't think calling him a short term pickup is trashing the move. Maybe it's just not positive enough for your taste, but I'm not killing the fact they signed him.
OKAY  
Carson53 : 5/14/2019 9:38 am : link
we got it...
...  
GothamGiants : 5/14/2019 9:48 am : link
I donít think enough people realize how bad wheeler is. Remmers, a mediocre stopgap, is a significant upgrade to the position.

This OL, once an embarrassment and major liability, will be ďabove averageĒ this year.
RE: RE: on 2 of the  
TMS : 5/14/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14442316 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14442309 YANKEE28 said:


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plays on that video, he is lined up at LT.



Itís actually an ďunbalancedĒ OL
Unbalanced OL - ( New Window )
. Good stuff thanks for posting.
The word  
mittenedman : 5/15/2019 9:41 am : link
journeyman is always spun negatively too. It's not a bad thing - it means he's a legit NFL player.

Sure it means he's not an above average player - but you need average guys too. And lots of them.
RE: The word  
GothamGiants : 5/15/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14444493 mittenedman said:
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journeyman is always spun negatively too. It's not a bad thing - it means he's a legit NFL player.

Sure it means he's not an above average player - but you need average guys too. And lots of them.


True ... some also donít seem to realize that an ďaverageĒ RT will look like Kareem McKenzie compared to the Hart/Wheeler disasters weíve been trottting out for years.

An average RT is still a significant upgrade to this OL. He is not a ďsaviorĒ, but he is a big improvement. At the cost he signed for, itís a brilliant acquisition ... and yet, some people will still cry about it.
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