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montanagiant : 5/13/2019 11:17 pm
One of the strangest stories I have heard:

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German police searching the apartment of a 30-year-old woman who, along with two others, was fatally shot with a crossbow in an upstairs room of a German B& B have found two more victims who reportedly died the same way.

The bodies of two women—both reportedly also shot with crossbows, according to news reports there—were found in a bedroom of the apartment on Monday, two days after the three bodies were discovered at the guesthouse in Passau. Police there say they likely died several days earlier.


None of the five victims have yet been identified by name.

Detectives went to the woman’s home in Lower Saxony after it was discovered that she had booked the triple room in the B& B under her name.

Local news outlet Merkur reports that one of the new victims may be the 30-year-old woman’s sister. Neighbors said the 30-year-old was quiet and dressed in a “gothic style.” One neighbor said, “She never greeted anyone.”

The grim discovery was made on Monday in Wittengen, Lower Saxony, hours away from the macabre discovery at the B& B in Passau, where the 30-year-old woman, a 33-year-old woman and a 54-year-old man—all German citizens—were found by a chambermaid in a triple room. They had all been impaled with crossbow arrows, known as bolts. The older man was described as a skilled archer who often carried crossbows in his white pickup truck, according to the German news service DPA.

The man and the older of the two women, who were both from Rhineland-Palatinate but apparently did not live together, were found hand-in-hand on the double bed with several arrows protruding from their chests and heads, investigating prosecutor Walter Feiler told the German news agency DPA. One arrow nearly went all the way through the man’s head, according to several German press outlets.

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I am never, ever  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/13/2019 11:40 pm : link
setting foot in Germany.
What’s so strange about that  
SomeFan : 5/14/2019 5:46 am : link
?
The Polizei have named this man a Person of Interest.  
Klaatu : 5/14/2019 8:00 am : link
.  
Banks : 5/14/2019 8:20 am : link
So that's where Bronn went
It takes a minute or so to reload a crossbow.  
Giant John : 5/14/2019 8:54 am : link
Surprised none escaped.
Maybe one of the weirdest  
section125 : 5/14/2019 9:07 am : link
stories of the year...
RE: It takes a minute or so to reload a crossbow.  
pjcas18 : 5/14/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14442828 Giant John said:
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Surprised none escaped.


Not really. Are you familiar with them is that why you say it takes a minute or so or is it because that's what you think it takes. I have one, though I never use it anymore I only use a compound bow (more skill and much harder to learn IMO), But in my experience it takes about 10 seconds to load a crossbow (if I'm trying to reload quickly). You put your foot on the bottom and pull the bow up into place and place the arrow in the slot.

However I agree with you, reload time - 10 second or a 1 minute gives a victim an opening if....they're awake, not scared to the point they're immobile, and the place their bodies were found is actually where they were killed.

This whole thing sounds like a criminal minds episode where a psychopath lets people run around in the woods at his B&B and hunts them down like animals.
Nothing new, move along  
giantsFC : 5/14/2019 10:36 am : link
Pretty sure they already did this plot on Midsomer Murders 15 years ago.
At first you read this and think  
montanagiant : 5/14/2019 11:01 am : link
Okay the guy who was with 2 girls went nuts and killed everyone then shot himself. Then you read where he is found with multiple bolts in him and go wtf???
They where killed  
EJJ : 5/14/2019 1:35 pm : link
Than posed most likely. The time to reload the Cross bow is irrelevant.
Sounds like a Criminal minds episode.
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pjcas18 : 5/14/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14443358 EJJ said:
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Than posed most likely. The time to reload the Cross bow is irrelevant.
Sounds like a Criminal minds episode.


Yeah, that was my thought...from above:

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....This whole thing sounds like a criminal minds episode where a psychopath lets people run around in the woods at his B&B and hunts them down like animals.
Can you commit suicide with a bow and arrow?  
Milton : 5/14/2019 1:58 pm : link
Would an accomplished practitioner be able to fire an arrow into himself?
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pjcas18 : 5/14/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14443401 Milton said:
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Would an accomplished practitioner be able to fire an arrow into himself?

Yes. You can, but I believe this was a crossbow, not a compound bow. Compound bow (think Robin Hood) I don't think would be possible or at least not easy because you may not be able to generate the velocity into yourself to be fatal, but a crossbow possibly.

I think maybe it would be easier to just plunge the arrow into your carotid artery or something, but suicide by crossbow has happened before.
I just wonder if the one who was found on the floor....  
Milton : 5/14/2019 2:54 pm : link
...in a pool of blood with a single arrow in her shot the other two several times and then arranged their bodies in bed before taking her own life. Not sure how the two dead bodies 30 miles away fit into that scenario however.
RE: I just wonder if the one who was found on the floor....  
pjcas18 : 5/14/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14443496 Milton said:
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...in a pool of blood with a single arrow in her shot the other two several times and then arranged their bodies in bed before taking her own life. Not sure how the two dead bodies 30 miles away fit into that scenario however.


I'm not sure we have all the information yet (on the first scene). For example, how did the authorities reach the conclusion it was a murder suicide? Was there a note? I think my first assumption would be triple homicide.

and the second scene sure is mysterious too.

as I and others have said the whole thing seems like a TV show.
Some new info  
montanagiant : 5/14/2019 5:08 pm : link
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Authorities believe that the mysterious deaths of three medieval enthusiasts who were found fatally struck by crossbow bolts inside a German bed-and-breakfast may have been the result of a murder-suicide pact.

Police reportedly found two wills belonging to 53-year-old Torsten W. and 33-year-old Kerstin E., who were found dead Saturday holding hands on a bed in a three-room suite at the hotel in the southern German city of Passau. They’d both suffered crossbow wounds in the head and chest. Below them, 30-year-old Farina C. was found “lying in front of the double bed” with “one shot from a crossbow between the throat and the chin,” public prosecutor Walter Feiler said.


German prosecutors now believe Farina C. shot the couple first before turning the crossbow on herself as part of a “killing on demand,” according to the Associated Press. The couple were found next to their wills by a hotel worker, but authorities have not released details from their documents. It was not immediately clear how the three victims were related.

The trio’s deaths have been linked to two more women who were found dead Monday inside the bedroom of Farin C.’s apartment after “one of the neighbors heard about the reports in Passau and told police that the mailbox of the apartment was overflowing and that a strange smell was coming from [inside],” the BBC reported.

Police believe the women, one of whom was reportedly the partner of Farin C., likely died several days earlier, but they are still waiting on the autopsy reports for an official cause of death. No crossbows or arrows were found at the apartment, which is about two hours away from the Passau hotel, AFP reported.

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More new info  
montanagiant : 5/16/2019 6:26 pm : link
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The storefront window of Torsten Weiss’s medieval fetish shop in Hachenburg, Germany, is adorned with a mannequin splattered with fake blood sitting open-legged on a counter. A periwinkle blue rope is tied several times around her wrists and neck. Thick silver chains are draped across her shoulders like suspenders. A stained blindfold is pushed up above her eyes. The store offers replicas of ancient weapons like longbows, spears and battle axes alongside Knights Templar flags. It also offers medieval reenactment and jousting classes.

Last weekend Weiss was found dead with crossbow bolts protruding from his neck and skull on a double bed on the second floor of a quaint B&B in Passau, Germany. By his side was 33-year-old Kerstin Enders who had succumbed to similar fatal injuries.

On the floor in front of them in a pool of blood was 30-year-old Farina Caspari, suspected of honoring Weiss’s dominator command to first kill him and Enders, and then take her own life, which she clearly did, according to investigators.

Weiss and Enders left wills at their sides, presumably to ensure that the motives were clear. "Investigators suspect they were all members of a kind of sex circle with a focus on the Middle Ages,” according to RTL news quoting local investigators on the scene. “[Weiss] may have been the guru of the group.”

Caspari, who hailed from Lower Saxony some 250 miles north of Passau, had booked the triple room online so investigators naturally started their investigation at her house to determine whether anything on her computer or in her possession would shed light on the motive for the strange deaths. They found two more female victims, One, identified only as Gertrud C., was her lover, according to police.

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madgiantscow009 : 5/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14446598 montanagiant said:
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The storefront window of Torsten Weiss’s medieval fetish shop in Hachenburg, Germany, is adorned with a mannequin splattered with fake blood sitting open-legged on a counter. A periwinkle blue rope is tied several times around her wrists and neck. Thick silver chains are draped across her shoulders like suspenders. A stained blindfold is pushed up above her eyes. The store offers replicas of ancient weapons like longbows, spears and battle axes alongside Knights Templar flags. It also offers medieval reenactment and jousting classes.

Last weekend Weiss was found dead with crossbow bolts protruding from his neck and skull on a double bed on the second floor of a quaint B&B in Passau, Germany. By his side was 33-year-old Kerstin Enders who had succumbed to similar fatal injuries.

On the floor in front of them in a pool of blood was 30-year-old Farina Caspari, suspected of honoring Weiss’s dominator command to first kill him and Enders, and then take her own life, which she clearly did, according to investigators.

Weiss and Enders left wills at their sides, presumably to ensure that the motives were clear. "Investigators suspect they were all members of a kind of sex circle with a focus on the Middle Ages,” according to RTL news quoting local investigators on the scene. “[Weiss] may have been the guru of the group.”

Caspari, who hailed from Lower Saxony some 250 miles north of Passau, had booked the triple room online so investigators naturally started their investigation at her house to determine whether anything on her computer or in her possession would shed light on the motive for the strange deaths. They found two more female victims, One, identified only as Gertrud C., was her lover, according to police.

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