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NFT: Knicks/NBA Chat, 5/14. IT'S LOTTERY DAY!

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2019 7:02 am
About 13 1/2 hours or so from now, we'll know where the ping pong have landed. As most know, the Knicks, Cavs, & Suns all have the same odds of winning the Zion sweepstakes @ 14 % each. The worse case for the Knicks is they end up with the 5th pick, but that's not going to happen. Think positively.

Going to be a long day at work looking @ the clock. Beer in the man cave fridge is cold & ready to be consumed.
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RE: I think most of us are clear headed  
Anakim : 5/14/2019 9:05 am : link
In comment 14442851 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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& realize the odds are not in our favor of getting Zion. But I'm trying to think positively for a change with this franchise.


Tried that. Marbury, Linsanity, Porzingis...never turns out well
RE: The new lottery system blows  
TyreeHelmet : 5/14/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14442847 Anakim said:
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So the worst team has the best chance to land the FIFTH overall pick? I get the trade-off with not falling farther than 5, but it makes no sense. We were the worst fucking team in the NBA. How do we only have a 14% chance of picking first?


Agreed. I would make the lottery just for the top 2 or 3 spots and allow the worst team to pick no later than 3rd or 4th. I just think the drop to 5th is way too steep for the worst team in the league. 1 to 5 makes a huge difference in the nba draft too. I also think they should prevent teams from winning multiple lotteries in a certain number of years.
Melo? don't want him anywhere near the Knicks.  
GiantsUA : 5/14/2019 9:09 am : link
KD + will instantly make the Knicks a 3-5 seed, if some other things fall into place, who knows.
RE: RE: I think most of us are clear headed  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2019 9:12 am : link
In comment 14442852 Anakim said:
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In comment 14442851 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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& realize the odds are not in our favor of getting Zion. But I'm trying to think positively for a change with this franchise.



Tried that. Marbury, Linsanity, Porzingis...never turns out well


Porzingis didn't want to be here, but drafting him absolutely worked out. There was nothing wrong with anything the Knicks did there. In fact it's a good look and should make you MORE confident about the franchise that they identified his talent and had the conviction to draft him.

Linsanity isn't a thing. He's just a bench guard that had a hot streak. Nothing he's done since leaving should have anyone be shedding tears. He's usually hurt and consistently average.
Hoping we don't fall any lower  
Enzo : 5/14/2019 9:14 am : link
than 3. We also have to hope Dallas ends up outside the top 5.
Not listening to the negativity.  
Giantology : 5/14/2019 9:16 am : link
ZION TIME BABY!
RE: The new lottery system blows  
moze1021 : 5/14/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14442847 Anakim said:
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So the worst team has the best chance to land the FIFTH overall pick? I get the trade-off with not falling farther than 5, but it makes no sense. We were the worst fucking team in the NBA. How do we only have a 14% chance of picking first?


FWIW... in the old system the worst team had the best chance of picking 4th. In other words, it was still more likely to get 4th than 1st in the old system.
"There was nothing wrong with anything the Knicks did"  
Enzo : 5/14/2019 9:17 am : link
I would have signed him last summer. Letting him potentially become a RFA was always a risky play. If you sign him, you can always trade him at any point, only you can do it on your timetable. But what's done is done....
RE: The new lottery system blows  
Enzo : 5/14/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14442847 Anakim said:
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So the worst team has the best chance to land the FIFTH overall pick? I get the trade-off with not falling farther than 5, but it makes no sense. We were the worst fucking team in the NBA. How do we only have a 14% chance of picking first?

they are more likely to pick 1-4 than 5.
I'm all for  
Enzo : 5/14/2019 9:22 am : link
bringing in vets to round out the roster if they get lucky this summer with free agents - but not Melo. What exactly does he bring to the table at this point in his career?
RE: RE: The new lottery system blows  
TyreeHelmet : 5/14/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14442872 moze1021 said:
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In comment 14442847 Anakim said:


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So the worst team has the best chance to land the FIFTH overall pick? I get the trade-off with not falling farther than 5, but it makes no sense. We were the worst fucking team in the NBA. How do we only have a 14% chance of picking first?



FWIW... in the old system the worst team had the best chance of picking 4th. In other words, it was still more likely to get 4th than 1st in the old system.


That's not entirely correct. Worst team had a 25% chance at 1st and about 65% at the top 3. Couldn't fall lower than 4th.
Signing him before seeing how he recovered was also risky  
Oscar : 5/14/2019 9:23 am : link
I really wanted KP to be the guy who turned this team around and eventually won a championship. Didnt work out unfortunately. I am a little skeptical that he will be a 10 year superstar in this league but he has rare talent.

I wonder how KP will deal with being second fiddle to Luka, I think that could be problematic. Luka is already the better player and the face of the Mavericks.
RE: Signing him before seeing how he recovered was also risky  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14442886 Oscar said:
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I really wanted KP to be the guy who turned this team around and eventually won a championship. Didnt work out unfortunately. I am a little skeptical that he will be a 10 year superstar in this league but he has rare talent.

I wonder how KP will deal with being second fiddle to Luka, I think that could be problematic. Luka is already the better player and the face of the Mavericks.


They are good buddies, so nobody seems to think ego will get in the way.
I fully expect  
Harvest Blend : 5/14/2019 9:30 am : link
the 5th pick with Dallas top 4.

I don't see any other way.
RE: good luck today  
GeofromNJ : 5/14/2019 9:34 am : link
In comment 14442718 hitdog42 said:
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to Knicks fans.

though i will be rooting for the Cavs to get the top pick

The Cavs will get the first pick. They almost ALWAYS get the first pick. So often, that it's ridiculous.
My nightmare is Lakers #1  
Chris684 : 5/14/2019 9:35 am : link
followed by some order of Mavs, Cavs, Suns 2-4 and NYK 5.
If the LAL win the lottery,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2019 9:37 am : link
I'm done with the NBA.
RE: RE: good luck today  
The_Boss : 5/14/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14442908 GeofromNJ said:
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to Knicks fans.

though i will be rooting for the Cavs to get the top pick


The Cavs will get the first pick. They almost ALWAYS get the first pick. So often, that it's ridiculous.


I think the Lakers have already been set as the winners..when they actually start the ping pong ball machine, the ball picked first is actually #2.
We better hope it's not rigged  
Chris684 : 5/14/2019 9:44 am : link
because if it is there's no way it's not for the Lakers.

LeBron is stuck right now.

The Warriors are great with or without KD. Good chance Kawhi goes to Clips. Right now Houston, Denver, SA and Portland are all still way better than Lakers.

The Celtics and Knicks can make better offers for AD.

The number 1 pick to LA can change all of that.
I will be flabbergasted if the Knicks get one of the first three picks  
GeofromNJ : 5/14/2019 9:48 am : link
The Knick's lottery fortunes since 1985 simply don't bode well for the Knicks chances this year, or any year, frankly. Mills and Perry will have to find a few diamonds in a coal bin if the Knicks are to win. As a Knicks fan, I wish them well.
Getting the 1st pick and then trading it would be annoying  
Sean : 5/14/2019 9:50 am : link
.
Alan Hahn said he might cry if the Knicks win tonight  
The_Boss : 5/14/2019 9:51 am : link
I wouldnt go that far (I think), but a loud Fuck yeah! isnt completely off the table for my initial reaction.
I have  
Jon in NYC : 5/14/2019 9:52 am : link
such low hopes. I think we'll end up with Cam Reddish when all is said and done.
RE: Alan Hahn said he might cry if the Knicks win tonight  
The_Boss : 5/14/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14442953 The_Boss said:
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I wouldnt go that far (I think), but a loud Fuck yeah! isnt completely off the table for my initial reaction.


And on the flip side, Ill probably just shake my head and laugh if/when Silver flips the cards at 4 or 5 and we see the Knick logo.
If we end up @ 5, I'm cracking open some Sierra Nevada Torpedo's  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2019 9:56 am : link
& bringing out the funnel.
RE: If we end up @ 5, I'm cracking open some Sierra Nevada Torpedo's  
The_Boss : 5/14/2019 9:59 am : link
In comment 14442967 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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& bringing out the funnel.


Dont waste those in the funnel...get a couple of Natty Ice sixers.
Maybe its because  
nygiants16 : 5/14/2019 10:04 am : link
i feel the knicks are trading the pick no matter what i am not really sweating tonight, now where they pick will determine who they trade for or what they habe to give up alongside the pick...

Knicks drafted  
charlito : 5/14/2019 10:18 am : link
Ja Morant 👍
i don't usually watch the lottery  
pierce58 : 5/14/2019 10:34 am : link
I see the start time is 8:30pm. I know they save the best for last, but how long is the lottery? What time should we be expecting the top 5 picks to be announced.

Feeling good vibes!
Just posting  
Mike from SI : 5/14/2019 10:35 am : link
to add whatever little luck I can.
We suffered for way too long  
KArchibald : 5/14/2019 10:39 am : link
Bout time things change for us. Lets Go Knicks!
RE: Maybe its because  
Giantz_comeback : 5/14/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14442986 nygiants16 said:
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i feel the knicks are trading the pick no matter what i am not really sweating tonight, now where they pick will determine who they trade for or what they habe to give up alongside the pick...


Pick #2 is the wheelhouse pick for a trade should we get both KD and Kyrie. At #1, Zion may give us pause to trade unless the deal is on our terms and outside of #2 maybe #3 Pels will ask for a bunch more (including probably Mitchell).
RE: i don't usually watch the lottery  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14443039 pierce58 said:
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I see the start time is 8:30pm. I know they save the best for last, but how long is the lottery? What time should we be expecting the top 5 picks to be announced.

Feeling good vibes!


845ish. They'll get to the top 3. Commercial.

If someone like Pels or Mavs are bypassed, it means they've moved into the top 3.
I'm also fully expecting the consolation statements  
Anakim : 5/14/2019 10:54 am : link
"Oh, Zion is overrated. He's just a post-up, in the paint player. He can't stretch the floor, has an average jumper/3 ball and his size and strength won't be as effective in the NBA. Ja Morant/RJ Barrett/D'Andre Hunter/Jarrett Culver/Cam Reddish all are better fits for the modern NBA."
RE: RE: i don't usually watch the lottery  
moze1021 : 5/14/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14443056 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14443039 pierce58 said:


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I see the start time is 8:30pm. I know they save the best for last, but how long is the lottery? What time should we be expecting the top 5 picks to be announced.

Feeling good vibes!



845ish. They'll get to the top 3. Commercial.

If someone like Pels or Mavs are bypassed, it means they've moved into the top 3.


Top 4 up for grabs for teams to jump this year. That's the other big change.

So when you are watching, if Knicks logo doesn't get flashed at 5, then ~27% they have gotten the first pick.
Would be happy with a top 3-4 pick  
ghost718 : 5/14/2019 10:54 am : link
Not really gonna sweat it if they miss out on Zion,and I wouldn't take Morant,so he can go to.
good luck Knicks fans  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/14/2019 10:56 am : link
Zion in MSG would be fun.
We could run this 7 times ...  
Csonka : 5/14/2019 11:05 am : link
and we'll lose out in 6 of them.

I'm in the camp that Zion is a total franchise changer. This is a huge night for Knicks fans. We've got an 86% chance of being really disappointed.
Joe Beningo cracks me up...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/14/2019 11:20 am : link
He's so Mr. Doom & Gloom.
RE: Joe Beningo cracks me up...  
Enzo : 5/14/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14443127 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He's so Mr. Doom & Gloom.

he's been suffering Knick related misery for much longer than most of us here.
I think most Knick  
Enzo : 5/14/2019 11:28 am : link
fans are ok with not getting Zion. Nobody was ever "owed" the top pick even under the old system. But slipping to 4 or 5 would be pretty lousy - especially after not moving up even a single spot in the lottery at any point since 1985.

I don't  
Jon in NYC : 5/14/2019 11:30 am : link
care about Zion. I care about getting top 3 so we can get Anthony Davis.
RE: We could run this 7 times ...  
Giantz_comeback : 5/14/2019 11:31 am : link
In comment 14443111 Csonka said:
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and we'll lose out in 6 of them.

I'm in the camp that Zion is a total franchise changer. This is a huge night for Knicks fans. We've got an 86% chance of being really disappointed.


So is Anthony Davis. If pick 2 or 3 turn into Anthony Davis that's clearly better than anyone not named Zion and possibly Zion never gets to ADs level.

Look I love Zion but AD is a top 5 NBA talent. The minute you sign KD and Kyrie you are a "win now" team.

Trading Zion, Morant makes the deal likely without including Mitchell because those 2 guys are that good. Barrett is iffy on whether we can get away with not including Mitchell. Pick 4 or 5 itll likely be Mitch back in the deal.
Just hope for every envelope that gets open  
Carl in CT : 5/14/2019 11:42 am : link
Goes as chalk. Everyone that does the chances get better and better. If one doesnt then you know they have moved up. (Which means someone has moved down).
it only takes one....  
Italianju : 5/14/2019 11:50 am : link
Reddish  
DanMetroMan : 5/14/2019 11:51 am : link
at 4 watch, ugh.
RE: The new lottery system blows  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/14/2019 11:54 am : link
In comment 14442847 Anakim said:
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So the worst team has the best chance to land the FIFTH overall pick? I get the trade-off with not falling farther than 5, but it makes no sense. We were the worst fucking team in the NBA. How do we only have a 14% chance of picking first?


The worst team has the best chance to get the 5th overall pick because the 2nd worst team has that same chance split between the 5th/6th pick, and the 3rd worst team has that same chance split between the 5th/6th/7th picks.
I'm prepared for the Knicks to pick 5th  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/14/2019 11:56 am : link
and take DeAndre Hunter because he was a star on my alma mater and then proceed to ruin any chance he has at early career development.
Like the crank caller asked  
GiantsUA : 5/14/2019 12:15 pm : link
Who goes to bed more disappointed tonight- Knicks fans or Mike Francesa' wife?
RE: Reddish  
BigBlueShock : 5/14/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14443184 DanMetroMan said:
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at 4 watch, ugh.

This. I am fully expecting Reddish. I was reading an article the other day saying the Knicks are very high on him. I have no idea what anyone sees in him. Id rather almost anyone else that is rumored to be in that range, which means it will be freakin Reddish
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