About 13 1/2 hours or so from now, we'll know where the ping pong have landed. As most know, the Knicks, Cavs, & Suns all have the same odds of winning the Zion sweepstakes @ 14 % each. The worse case for the Knicks is they end up with the 5th pick, but that's not going to happen. Think positively.
Going to be a long day at work looking @ the clock. Beer in the man cave fridge is cold & ready to be consumed.
That would suck. I’d much rather have Zion.
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Lol. Only ran it once.
Knicks 5th. Dallas 1st.
Barrett: He will never be a top 5 player but he will be a solid scorer and all-around player. KD lite.
Morant: Boom=bust candidate. Could be best player in the draft or could be a guy whose game does not translate against better athletes in the NBA.
Huge dropp off to Hunter, White, Culver Reddish. This is actually a very weak draft after the top three. Hachimura is a wildcard.
Or Garland considering he hasn't played college ball
Don't get me wrong, I want #1 about as much as anyone. But I won't let myself be destroyed if the ping pong balls don't fall right tonight.
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Hachimura is a wildcard.
Or Garland considering he hasn't played college ball
I would take Garland 4 or 5. It's a risk because meniscus can be a tricky injury because of the lack of blood flow. But upside is there
This is the terrible pit in my stomach.... this exactly.
Don't get me wrong, I want #1 about as much as anyone. But I won't let myself be destroyed if the ping pong balls don't fall right tonight.
I actually don’t think Reddish would be terrible in that scenario either. I know he struggled at times with Duke, but he is a shooter and can help stretch the floor for Durant/Irving. My only worry with him is he didn’t seem to respond well to being the third banana at Duke, and you have to wonder if that’ll be the case in the NBA as well.
Lakers got the 1st
Memphis 2nd
Phoenix 3rd
Knicks 4th. 😞
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Lol. Only ran it once.
Knicks 5th. Dallas 1st.
Bulls won it when I did it. Knicks...5. UFB.
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Lol. Only ran it once.
Knicks 5th. Dallas 1st.
Bulls won it when I did it. Knicks...5. UFB.
Get your beer bong ready.
I've run that damn thing about 100 times the past month and The Knicks get 4th or 5th like over 80 times. I'm expecting doom and gloom. What surprise me is how many times teams like the Lakers/Grizzlies move up to #1.
bring KD, Klay, draft Morant, keep Smith.
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I've run that damn thing about 100 times the past month and The Knicks get 4th or 5th like over 80 times. I'm expecting doom and gloom. What surprise me is how many times teams like the Lakers/Grizzlies move up to #1.
Well..probably felt like that but it was probably close to 60 out of 100...
Just for s&gs I ran it 100 times just now and got 17%,10%,12%,13%,48% vs the anticipated 14%,13.4%,12.7%,11.9%,47.9%
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I've run that damn thing about 100 times the past month and The Knicks get 4th or 5th like over 80 times. I'm expecting doom and gloom. What surprise me is how many times teams like the Lakers/Grizzlies move up to #1.
The Knicks have a 60% of getting the 4th or 5th pick. It's not surprising that you would see that outcome often.
Whether you keep him or trade him, Zion adds big value to the franchise, which helps attract free agents.
So, let's not kid ourselves: those pingpong balls are huge tonight
AD and KD is the dream scenario.
Pass on Kyrie.
Sign Kemba if you must sign a PG, otherwise keep Smith Jr. and use money to build the rest of a good roster around the big 2.
Honestly while I'm against it, if we do win the lottery and trade it for AD I really don't think we have to give up a hell of a lot more than that. Maybe one of the Dallas picks and a player or 2. When you factor in Zion's value and potential, as well as the cap $ saved I think that #1 is really worth a hell of a lot. Especially when you factor in the availability of other potential offers.
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will turn to acquiring AD
Honestly while I'm against it, if we do win the lottery and trade it for AD I really don't think we have to give up a hell of a lot more than that. Maybe one of the Dallas picks and a player or 2. When you factor in Zion's value and potential, as well as the cap $ saved I think that #1 is really worth a hell of a lot. Especially when you factor in the availability of other potential offers.
Call me crazy, but I think Zion, Frank and Knox for AD is fair. They're going to want Mitch, for sure, but hellll no.
For 2-5 it's a no brainer.
The pick, Knox, Frank... that's all fine. But I'd much rather have Zion/Robinson than AD with Robinson being dealt to NOLA.
Top 3 we move for Davis anyway.
Davis, KD, and another max for the next 4 to 5 years is a dream come true.
Players will be lining up to be role players in NY on that team
The pick, Knox, Frank... that's all fine. But I'd much rather have Zion/Robinson than AD with Robinson being dealt to NOLA.
Unless Robinson adds some post moves and some game away from the basket
he is not enough to hold up an AD deal.
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If it costs Robinson to get AD, that's where I'd say no.
The pick, Knox, Frank... that's all fine. But I'd much rather have Zion/Robinson than AD with Robinson being dealt to NOLA.
Unless Robinson adds some post moves and some game away from the basket
he is not enough to hold up an AD deal.
For picks 2-5, no -
The point I'm making is that if the Knicks do get the first pick and still want to trade it, I'd be against moving that pick + Robinson+ for AD.
In that instance, I'd prefer to just draft and keep Zion and still have Robinson here.
For any other pick, if we have to include Robinson to get AD, so be it.
47% Knicks pick 5th
9% Knicks pick 4th
11% Knicks pick 3rd
15% Knicks pick 2nd
18% Knicks pick 1st
So ...
56% Knicks pick 4 or 5
44% Knicks pick 1, 2 or 3
...and yes, I'm assuming we score a 5th pick tonight :(
Davis misses time every year. He's a great player, but I'm not going to empty out the rest of the roster just to get him here and crush all . of our depth and hamstring our cap flexibility.
The guy basically never plays full seasons and he's coming off another one where he missed over 20 games. It's a fair concern.
It's not a no brainer.
Look for yourself. The guy is a walking medical report.
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i would hope so, twolves got dog shit for love
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If it costs Robinson to get AD, that's where I'd say no.
The pick, Knox, Frank... that's all fine. But I'd much rather have Zion/Robinson than AD with Robinson being dealt to NOLA.
Unless Robinson adds some post moves and some game away from the basket
he is not enough to hold up an AD deal.
For picks 2-5, no -
The point I'm making is that if the Knicks do get the first pick and still want to trade it, I'd be against moving that pick + Robinson+ for AD.
In that instance, I'd prefer to just draft and keep Zion and still have Robinson here.
For any other pick, if we have to include Robinson to get AD, so be it.
I highly highly doubt AD would cost BOTH Zion AND Mitchell. Zion on his own almost gets you AD. Then we will include some combo of knox, Frank, DSJ (partly as salary cap filler and partly added value). Take a look at many of the other superstar trades,maybe Im wrong but I don't know if anyone got a Zion level prospect back.
Davis misses time every year. He's a great player, but I'm not going to empty out the rest of the roster just to get him here and crush all . of our depth and hamstring our cap flexibility.
The guy basically never plays full seasons and he's coming off another one where he missed over 20 games. It's a fair concern.
I’d lean slightly against trading Zion for Davis for this reason. I truly buy the Zion hype, and think the depth/cap flexibility is too important.
You definitely don’t trade Zion + Robinson for Davis.
Davis misses time every year. He's a great player, but I'm not going to empty out the rest of the roster just to get him here and crush all . of our depth and hamstring our cap flexibility.
The guy basically never plays full seasons and he's coming off another one where he missed over 20 games. It's a fair concern.
Zion is an extremely high level prospect, Id laugh if the premise was including any pick in this draft other than him. But Zion has the look of one of those once in every decade or so type prospects .
That said I wouldnt be upset if we traded him for AD but its not a no brainer as some might think.