About 13 1/2 hours or so from now, we'll know where the ping pong have landed. As most know, the Knicks, Cavs, & Suns all have the same odds of winning the Zion sweepstakes @ 14 % each. The worse case for the Knicks is they end up with the 5th pick, but that's not going to happen. Think positively.
Going to be a long day at work looking @ the clock. Beer in the man cave fridge is cold & ready to be consumed.
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Davis or not. How long until he wants a trade...
Based on what? He didn't seem to mind.
It was pretty obvious. He was giddy as can be before and embarrassed and laughing about all the compliments. After the draft he had a much more somber demeanor. Night and day.
This isn't a total disaster for the Knicks, 4th or 5th would have been, but still a kick to the nuts.
I like Barrett. Hopefully New Orleans does too.
I don't think Zion is going to make Davis stay in New Orleans.
None. Conley is like 32 or so. They're taking Morant.
Haha keep on dreaming. The lakers had shit before today and now they just have shit that smells slightly better, but it’s still shit. Knicks can blow the lakers out of the water before even picking up the phone.
I say yes. That's a win-win for both teams.
And lol at making everyone feel good about the new lottery system with these results. NBA corporate offices have to be sick. A lot of money totally pissed away in the lottery tonight
Maybe the 2 worst NBA markets in the entire league got the top 2 picks, but sure yeah that worked very well.
All this did was start the countdown on Zion and Morant leaving for bigger markets. If Zion/Morant are as good as people think they will be, they will get out of there at first opportunity. I really dont think the NBA could have picked 2 worse markets for those 2 if they tried.
This could not possibly have gone worse for the NBA. It's not all that far from worst case scenario.
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I CALL SHENANIGANS!
U were saying they’d pick 5th. 3rd ain’t bad. Get over it
Can't say I know a lot about NBA projections, but I thought Barrett blew for most of the year for Duke. Still, I'd rather have him than Reddish.
I am actually relieved.
Stupid iPhone.
What I was saying was, why change the draft rules so drastically? Christ, you want to combat tanking, put in a rule that says you’re exempt from the #1 pick if you had that pick the year prior. Decide to suck on purpose again? You can pick no higher than 5. And so on.
No one in Louisiana gives a damn about basketball. That's a Tigers-Saints state.
OK. #3 + Mitch.
I say yes. That's a win-win for both teams.
Yeah absolutely. If they want Ntikilina & Dennis Smith you send them also.
This isn't a total disaster for the Knicks, 4th or 5th would have been, but still a kick to the nuts.
I like Barrett. Hopefully New Orleans does too.
I don't think Zion is going to make Davis stay in New Orleans.
They still have a chance to trade for AD but they have to know that KD and one of Kemba or Kyrie is going to the Knicks for that to happen
How? It’s called a lotto. Anything can happen. We could have slid further down. We didn’t get lucky tonight but it could have been worse. And if this was last year likely the same outcome even with the changes.
Some of you actually expected the first pick? The fuck is wrong with you. You were just asking to be disappointed since the odds were against it. The odds basically said 3 and that’s what happened.
Bullshit.
As big as the drop off from 2-3 is (Morant to Barrett), the drop from 3 (Barrett) to 4, is enormous.
He seemed giddy going into the commercial with the Knicks and Lakers in top 4, then when Knicks came at 3rd everything seemed forced and fake.
Everyone thought Zion was going to go to Clemson and stay home when he committed to Duke. He will do the exact same thing and go for the big city (duke) when he's a free agent.
Anyone who says this was what the NBA wanted with the lottery is totally clueless. If you gave Adam Silver a list of worst possible scenario for picks 1 and 2 the worst would have been Memphis 1 and New Orleans 2. So this is pretty close to worst case scenario.
Plus, the two Dallas draft picks and two players like DSJR and MR.
Robinson
Zion
Barret
SG
DSJR
That could be a team that competes for a championship for may years.
He seemed giddy going into the commercial with the Knicks and Lakers in top 4, then when Knicks came at 3rd everything seemed forced and fake.
Everyone thought Zion was going to go to Clemson and stay home when he committed to Duke. He will do the exact same thing and go for the big city (duke) when he's a free agent.
Anyone who says this was what the NBA wanted with the lottery is totally clueless. If you gave Adam Silver a list of worst possible scenario for picks 1 and 2 the worst would have been Memphis 1 and New Orleans 2. So this is pretty close to worst case scenario.
Yup, Zion was desperate to either be on the Knicks or Lakers
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but none of them change the fact this is a total kick in the balls
How? It’s called a lotto. Anything can happen. We could have slid further down. We didn’t get lucky tonight but it could have been worse. And if this was last year likely the same outcome even with the changes.
Some of you actually expected the first pick? The fuck is wrong with you. You were just asking to be disappointed since the odds were against it. The odds basically said 3 and that’s what happened.
Oh get off your high horse. I didn’t expect a thing. Knicks fans hoping for the first pick are disappointed about picking 3rd. It’s called being a fan.
As I said, #3 is plenty valuable. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a bummer we didn’t get 1.
Assuming your a Knicks fan, you wouldn’t agree?
Let's now try to get AD.
Zion could in a sense force New Orleans to work with the Knicks around the number 3 pick.
As unhappy as he could be about New Orleans, Barrett going with him would probably help.
#3 + Mitch for AD. Knicks get a huge piece and Pels front court is set.
Knicks then sign Durant and a point guard.
Having AD, greatly ncreases the chances of KD and other good free agents coming to MSG.
Cleveland and Phoenix got hammered here. Do have to wonder how this impacts tanking moving forward (the playoffs should impact that as well, I would think).
LOL. That'd break Twitter, Skip Bayless would pop a blood vessel, & ESPN would go 365-24-7 Zion.
LOL. That would be epic.
That would actually be bad for the Knicks. That means that Morant would go 1st and Barrett 2nd. The Knicks would be fucked then. It is almost certain that Durant will sign here and so will Irving so there is no way the Knicks will be picking in the lottery next year if Zion goes back to Duke for a year anyway.
He can play the 2 and leave Knox at the 3.
Of course it could be Morant - not my first choice but still solid if we don't pick up a PG. Huge upside for sure
After all that if there's an AD trade I'm a heck of a lot more behind it now, for the right pkg of course
He might be Ingram level, probably the easiest comp. Definitely not as sold on him as the top 2.
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but none of them change the fact this is a total kick in the balls
How? It’s called a lotto. Anything can happen. We could have slid further down. We didn’t get lucky tonight but it could have been worse. And if this was last year likely the same outcome even with the changes.
Some of you actually expected the first pick? The fuck is wrong with you. You were just asking to be disappointed since the odds were against it. The odds basically said 3 and that’s what happened.
Oh get off your high horse. I didn’t expect a thing. Knicks fans hoping for the first pick are disappointed about picking 3rd. It’s called being a fan.
As I said, #3 is plenty valuable. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a bummer we didn’t get 1.
Assuming your a Knicks fan, you wouldn’t agree?
Of course I was disappointed but some are going bananas and acting almost surprised. And the usual doom and gloom woe is us talk. It’s Just old that’s all.
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That Zion could go back to Duke as he hasn't hired an agent
That would actually be bad for the Knicks. That means that Morant would go 1st and Barrett 2nd. The Knicks would be fucked then. It is almost certain that Durant will sign here and so will Irving so there is no way the Knicks will be picking in the lottery next year if Zion goes back to Duke for a year anyway.
Eh, I'd be happy with Garland. I may even prefer Garland to Barrett.
Knox or Barrett
Smith Jr.
Trier or Dotson
Dallas unprotected and knicks 2020 and 2022 1st rounders. No one can beat that offer.
Knicks first rounders should be in the 20’s moving forward and they have bobcats 2nd rounders in 2020 and 2021. Those could up being mid 30’s picks.
I want to keep Robinson and Frank and either Dotson or trier.