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This is the time of year they announce...

90.Cal : 5/14/2019 8:22 am

...which team will be on HBO's Hard Knocks.

The 5 eligible teams are the Giants. Raiders, Redskins, Lions & 49ers but rumor is it will not be the 49ers.

How many honestly don't want it to be us?

I would love it.

I think its gotta come down to the Giants or Raiders.
Raiders or Redskins  
Chris684 : 5/14/2019 8:25 am : link
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It's not very popular around here, but I'd love it, too.  
Klaatu : 5/14/2019 8:25 am : link
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Not me.  
section125 : 5/14/2019 8:28 am : link
Not interested at all.

Besides I dropped HBO - shitty service for what they charge.
RE: Raiders or Redskins  
mfsd : 5/14/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14442776 Chris684 said:
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The Raiders move to Vegas next year right? I assume thatís the year theyíll be on
Its gonna be  
cjac : 5/14/2019 8:34 am : link
the Redskins i think
Raiders is perfect choice  
George from PA : 5/14/2019 8:34 am : link
Didnt the Giants do path to the draft to avoid it?
Don't want it  
Milton : 5/14/2019 8:38 am : link
If it were up to me, it'd be the Cowboys every year.
Giants would be a compelling storyline.  
j_rud : 5/14/2019 8:41 am : link
Eli's (in all likelihood) last year, second year coach and embattled GM who is taking an absolute beating in the media post-draft. It would probably make for good tv. And this would be the year to do it. Its not like this team is on the precipice of competing and the distraction of Hard Knocks will be their downfall.
Niners  
Ryan in Albany : 5/14/2019 8:43 am : link
are out of the running.

Down to 4 teams.

I don't have HBO so I couldn't care less, but I'd rather it not be the Giants because I'm sure there will be post after post about here.
RE: Raiders is perfect choice  
90.Cal : 5/14/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14442793 George from PA said:
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Didnt the Giants do path to the draft to avoid it?


Nah, almost every team did one of those.
The giants have to step their social media/YouTube game  
90.Cal : 5/14/2019 8:46 am : link
Most fans want more of this kind of access. I would like to see more of the inner workings. The Giants 'path to the draft thing' was like 5 minute episodes compared to the Browns who had like 30 minute episodes. I hope we are on Hard Knocks.
If someone came to your job site with a camera running...  
Milton : 5/14/2019 8:48 am : link
...don't you think that would impact your ability to fully focus on the task at hand? Especially if a big part of your job is to listen and learn.

Nothing good can come from being on Hard Knocks, only bad.
No thanks  
JonC : 5/14/2019 8:49 am : link
Recent NYG teams have failed to perform when paid too much attention.
The Haskins pick  
Chris684 : 5/14/2019 8:51 am : link
makes the Redskins a lot more attractive to a TV audience. Hoping it's them.
RE: The Haskins pick  
Anakim : 5/14/2019 8:54 am : link
In comment 14442826 Chris684 said:
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makes the Redskins a lot more attractive to a TV audience. Hoping it's them.


And the Jones pick doesn't make us attractive?
I didn't say that. Of course it does.  
Chris684 : 5/14/2019 8:56 am : link
I'm just hoping it's Washington.
Hell no.  
Giant John : 5/14/2019 8:59 am : link
We donít need or want more distractions.
RE: RE: The Haskins pick  
Milton : 5/14/2019 9:00 am : link
In comment 14442831 Anakim said:
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In comment 14442826 Chris684 said:


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makes the Redskins a lot more attractive to a TV audience. Hoping it's them.



And the Jones pick doesn't make us attractive?
Haskins is competing for the starting job, Jones isn't.
Jones is competing for a starting job as well.  
Zeke's Alibi : 5/14/2019 9:14 am : link
Shitty thread title too. This ain't a novel no need to write titles with cliffhangers.
Apparently,  
Pete in MD : 5/14/2019 9:16 am : link
the Niners were taken out of consideration bc Lynch asked for them not to be considered. If that's all it takes, you would think DG would do the same.
I think Washington's team name  
Giantsfan79 : 5/14/2019 9:16 am : link
may take them out of the running. HBO/ATT may decide to avoid that controversy.
I think they might just do the Giants  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/14/2019 9:46 am : link
because its more than likely one of the only times they are available to do so.
If anything  
Sneakers O'toole : 5/14/2019 10:07 am : link
I'd like to see a team bar the camera crews access.
I hope it is the Giants  
jtfuoco : 5/14/2019 10:13 am : link
And its what this ownership deserves for giving the fans about 7 years of bad football. I think it will provide us a better picture of what the internal running of this organization is really like and I have a suspicion its not as well run as some here think it is. I mean it took all of 2 episodes of Finding Giants to see that the scouting department and Marc Ross were a complete joke.
Hard Knocks is a hot potato for the league. NFL should tell HBO  
Ivan15 : 5/14/2019 10:18 am : link
to come up with a different preseason format
Would love to see the giants on the show  
Metnut : 5/14/2019 10:18 am : link
Would add some flavor to what is shaping up to be another boring year.

I think Raiders are going to be the pick though. Gruden is great on TV and they have a whole bunch of their usual drama.
Raiders logical choice  
Rick in Dallas : 5/14/2019 10:23 am : link
With Gruden and Mayock
This would be an ideal off season for the Giants to do it, if ever  
Shecky : 5/14/2019 10:30 am : link
Lets be honest, no matter what Jones/Eli will become a distraction as the season goes on, even if Eli has an MVP type season. The Giants can turn that around into a positive, while negating the in season 'distraction'.

By appearing on Hard Knocks, the Giants can control the narrative. HBO can show eli in a very positive light, they cant create a story of him in a negative way even if they tried. Eli's personality that no one ever see's with his pranks. Eli as a leader. Eli as a mentor to Jones.The massive respect eli gets in and around Giants Stadium. Come regular season, no one will want to talk about Eli in a negative way. The national writers wont want to bring up the Jones is replacing Eli soon story. It will allow Eli to go out with a reputation nationally that all giants fans already know.

Personally I think it's a no brainer to have the Raiders on. Lots of 'juicy' stories with Gruden, Vegas move, Brown, Mayock etc. Gruden loves the attention and its so Raider like to be on Hard Knocks.
+1  
Canton : 5/14/2019 10:30 am : link
Gruden & Mayock are more compelling reality TV than Mara, SHURMUR, DG.
Hate the idea for NYG.  
smshmth8690 : 5/14/2019 10:34 am : link
Now get off my lawn.
Betting its the Skins  
Biteymax22 : 5/14/2019 10:40 am : link
While the Raiders have some intriguing story lines, I would imagine that the league would want them next year when they move to Vegas.

The Skins fit the bill perfectly. Dysfunctional organization with a big name owner, a coach with a recognizable name, a QB competition and their top pick (Haskins) being a guy who is actively trying to promote his brand and his image.
No fuggin' way in hell.  
Red Dog : 5/14/2019 10:49 am : link
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Honestly  
Matt in SGS : 5/14/2019 10:59 am : link
I think HBO will see the Giants as too boring, which is fine for me. Gettleman has cleared out a bunch of guys who were happy to see their name in the news. Eli and Jones would be a compelling viewing experience, if not for the fact that both guys have a public persona which are pretty boring (though, in fact, Eli is a pretty funny guy and a big prankster on the team, but he will never show it). Jones talks just like Eli, so you won't get a brash, young QB like Baker Mayfield. Snore. I don't think those shows do anything to help a team win, and the Giants are trying to find a way to build a winner. Let HBO go somewhere else.

I think the Raiders are probably perfect, with Chuckie, the lunatics they've brought in, the move to Vegas coming. That's more interesting TV.
RE: Apparently,  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/14/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14442868 Pete in MD said:
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the Niners were taken out of consideration bc Lynch asked for them not to be considered. If that's all it takes, you would think DG would do the same.

If I'm not mistaken, each team can remove themselves from the running based on certain criteria and/or once every five years (or something like that). I believe the Giants have already used their free pass to skip it, which is why they're still in consideration this year.
RE: Honestly  
Dankbeerman : 5/14/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14443097 Matt in SGS said:
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I think HBO will see the Giants as too boring, which is fine for me. Gettleman has cleared out a bunch of guys who were happy to see their name in the news. Eli and Jones would be a compelling viewing experience, if not for the fact that both guys have a public persona which are pretty boring (though, in fact, Eli is a pretty funny guy and a big prankster on the team, but he will never show it). Jones talks just like Eli, so you won't get a brash, young QB like Baker Mayfield. Snore. I don't think those shows do anything to help a team win, and the Giants are trying to find a way to build a winner. Let HBO go somewhere else.

I think the Raiders are probably perfect, with Chuckie, the lunatics they've brought in, the move to Vegas coming. That's more interesting TV.


Im with you. Brown is worthy of his own personal show with all his antics. Add in Gruden and the fact that the Radiers are probably campaigning for it to build their team up prior to relocation which the NFL needs to go smoothly
honestly the Giants should just do it  
bluepepper : 5/14/2019 11:26 am : link
and get it out of the way. This is a good boring year with no big expectations. Do it now and probably don't have to do it again for 20 years if ever. Also kind of lame how afraid they are of doing anything out of the ordinary.

As someone said Raiders are perfect choice for next year not this year. Would give them nice pub they need going to new town especially since Vegas is going to be relying on out-of-towners to fill seats.
DG and Shurmur  
uther99 : 5/14/2019 12:23 pm : link
RE: This would be an ideal off season for the Giants to do it, if ever  
81_Great_Dane : 5/14/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14443030 Shecky said:
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By appearing on Hard Knocks, the Giants can control the narrative.
Can they? Serious question. I don't know who has editorial control of "Hard Knocks." I am guessing the team doesn't, but the league might. Or the league and HBO have some kind of partnership agreement so the league has some control. I can't imagine that either HBO or the NFL would cede editorial control to the team.

The whole point of "Hard Knocks" is to show a warts-and-all view of preseason and training camp. So the league has to be on board with a show that isn't always nice. Would the Giants be ok with that? I think that at the ownership level, they'd rather not be bothered with it, but they will bite the bullet if they have to for the sake of the league.
IDK ...  
Beer Man : 5/14/2019 2:09 pm : link
HBO seems to always looking for something controversial to draw in viewers. Without OBJ around to stir the pot, the Giants are a very vanilla team. Hopefully, HBO will see them too boring.
I  
mitch300 : 5/14/2019 2:14 pm : link
Enjoy watching it every year. I would love it if it was the Giants. Letís see the inner workings of the organizations. Also cool coverage of the pre season games.
RE: I hope it is the Giants  
bLiTz 2k : 5/14/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14443005 jtfuoco said:
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And its what this ownership deserves for giving the fans about 7 years of bad football. I think it will provide us a better picture of what the internal running of this organization is really like and I have a suspicion its not as well run as some here think it is. I mean it took all of 2 episodes of Finding Giants to see that the scouting department and Marc Ross were a complete joke.


You want the Giants to be on Hard Knocks to stick it to their ownership? I swear everyday I find out there are more and more fucking mongloids that call themselves sports fans.
RE: This would be an ideal off season for the Giants to do it, if ever  
Eric on Li : 5/14/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14443030 Shecky said:
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Lets be honest, no matter what Jones/Eli will become a distraction as the season goes on, even if Eli has an MVP type season. The Giants can turn that around into a positive, while negating the in season 'distraction'.

By appearing on Hard Knocks, the Giants can control the narrative. HBO can show eli in a very positive light, they cant create a story of him in a negative way even if they tried. Eli's personality that no one ever see's with his pranks. Eli as a leader. Eli as a mentor to Jones.The massive respect eli gets in and around Giants Stadium. Come regular season, no one will want to talk about Eli in a negative way. The national writers wont want to bring up the Jones is replacing Eli soon story. It will allow Eli to go out with a reputation nationally that all giants fans already know.

Personally I think it's a no brainer to have the Raiders on. Lots of 'juicy' stories with Gruden, Vegas move, Brown, Mayock etc. Gruden loves the attention and its so Raider like to be on Hard Knocks.


Agreed all around. This is the first year I can recall where I actually think it would be a good thing for this organization - inject a little energy and positivity, especially since it seems like there are a lot of guys who are easy to root for on this roster.

But no way any TV producer is going to willing choose to put Shurmur center stage if he has the chance at Gruden.
No interest in having the nfl cameras around distracting our team...  
Torrag : 5/14/2019 10:45 pm : link
...it's a young group and they've got a lot of serious preparation ahead of them. Go to one of the zoo franchises and shit stir.
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