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Maccagnan Fired as GM of the Jets

figgy2989 : 5/15/2019 11:38 am
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RE: RE: I donít get this, he actually  
PatersonPlank : 5/15/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14444904 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14444819 tyrik13 said:


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Had a very good offseason: got Leíveon Bell and CJ Mosley and drafted Quennen Williams at 3, not to mention last yearís draft of Sam Darnold . Jets are just fcukin dumb



He way OVERPAID for Mosley. The only way the Jets could sign him as he wanted to stay with the Ravens.

He lost out on the LB from Minny, who agreed and then changed his mind.

NO OTHER TEAM wanted Bell. He was literally bidding against himself.

He FAILED to trade back and acquire picks.

A blind squirrel could have made the Williams pick at 3.

You have to give him credit for trading up to 3 last year for a QB (Darnold fell to him), but again, he paid a HUGE price to move from 6 to 3.


Darnold is still TBD, he hasn't shown anything yet to make someone think he's really good. If he is just a journeyman type guy, then last years draft was a disaster for the Jets
The Giants have been a joke for years  
Greg from LI : 5/15/2019 1:04 pm : link
And yet still aren't the most embarrassing organization in town. Thank you Woody Johnson....
Even when the Giants are a complete disaster  
Rflairr : 5/15/2019 1:07 pm : link
under Gettleman. The Jets have to take out due them. Jeesh
Can Denny in Denville Troll  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/15/2019 1:10 pm : link
get banned already. He just says shit in threads to stir people up.
RE: Can Denny in Denville Troll  
Jay on the Island : 5/15/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14444924 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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get banned already. He just says shit in threads to stir people up.

Imagine how sad this guys life must be that he spends so much time trolling a message board and takes pleasure in doing so.
Ownership  
Thinblueline : 5/15/2019 1:18 pm : link
Wanted Daniel Jones is why.
.  
Ryan in Albany : 5/15/2019 1:19 pm : link
Maccagnan should have been fired after the Christian Hackenberg pick....not the year after.

Joke of a team lol
NFL Network is breeding ground for NFL GMs  
ZogZerg : 5/15/2019 1:19 pm : link
Who would have thunk?
.  
arcarsenal : 5/15/2019 1:19 pm : link
LOLJets
RE: Start a campaign. Boomer Esaison for GM. Carlton can be pro personnel  
RobCarpenter : 5/15/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14444892 Ivan15 said:
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director


I wouldn't put it past the Jets to hire a pro personnel director who is in jail.
bad situation obviously  
bluepepper : 5/15/2019 1:21 pm : link
but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.
RE: Got this from my Jets fan friend a few weeks ago  
Matt in SGS : 5/15/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14444785 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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who is close with someone in the jets organization ,this is the email the guy in the organization sent him the day after round one of the draft

Remember after FA when I said i heard there was a rift between Mac and Gase already? Well according to my very reliable source within the Jets organization, not only is it 100% true, but it is BAD! Its stems from a few things. 1) Gase being a type A psycho control freak who is now realizing his loss of personal power kind of sucks and look at Mac as a lame duck GM, 2) the apparent fact that Mac is totally wishy washy and cant make a decision and 3) Free agency. There were two players Gase really wanted in FA that Mac would not go after. One, as we discussed prior was Paradis. Gase wanted him, Paradis wanted the Jets, for whatever reason Mac said no. The other was a TE from Cleveland (cant recall his name) that Mac also said no to. And this really pissed off Gase. Also while the organization doesnt totally blame Mac for the Barr debacle, they are pissed that it made the team look so bad and also that Mac had no plan B and now they still need an edge rusher. Rumor (unconfirmed) is that there was a chance Mac was going to be canned after the draft...again totally unconfirmed.

There was a dinner last Wednesday between Gase, Mac and a moderator to try and mend the rift. i dont know if all is well or not now but that prior Gase was trying to do what he could to force Mac out. So the dysfunction continues....

Other briefs ON The draft not saying all are true, just what i heard.



Big Fred, thanks for sharing. I was listening to Dave Te's podcast before the draft and he was saying that the word was McCagnan was going to be fired right after the draft and that power struggle was a mess.

To not have your coach and GM on the same page, particularly a new coach with a spotty track record, as they put together the team during the offseason and then fire the GM right now has to be a joke move and one which basically signals that Gase is coaching a team that he didn't really want.

At the very least, we can see that Gettleman and Shurmur are on the same page.

The Jets just can't help themselves.
RE: bad situation obviously  
giants#1 : 5/15/2019 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14444940 bluepepper said:
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but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.


I agree, but that's a pretty bad look since Gase hasn't even been on the job for 6 months. Why hire a HC that didn't have chemistry with your GM? Or why keep the GM if you felt that HC was a must hire?
RE: RE: bad situation obviously  
RobCarpenter : 5/15/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14444949 giants#1 said:
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but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.



I agree, but that's a pretty bad look since Gase hasn't even been on the job for 6 months. Why hire a HC that didn't have chemistry with your GM? Or why keep the GM if you felt that HC was a must hire?


Fairly sure that DG was fired b/c of the sexual predator Richardson, not b/c of the head coach.
Rob, the point  
bluepepper : 5/15/2019 1:34 pm : link
was Carolina fired their GM and went on their merry way and had a good season. People overreact to these things like this especially a guy like Bonigno who seems love being miserable over the Jets. They fired their GM. They will get a new one. Maybe they will be better for it.
Where's FanoftheJets  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2019 1:36 pm : link
? I thought he'd posted already.
RE: Where's FanoftheJets  
Jay on the Island : 5/15/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14444964 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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? I thought he'd posted already.

He will be in hiding for the forseeable future. That is until Darnold throws a td in the preseason then he will grace us with his presence and predict an MVP season for Darnold.
RE: Rob, the point  
RobCarpenter : 5/15/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14444962 bluepepper said:
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was Carolina fired their GM and went on their merry way and had a good season. People overreact to these things like this especially a guy like Bonigno who seems love being miserable over the Jets. They fired their GM. They will get a new one. Maybe they will be better for it.


It's a completely different situation. The GM had built the team with players that the head coach wanted. And the head coach had been there for six years - and went to the Super Bowl in one of those years.
RE: Wow.....was part of it about Gase not wanting to sign Leveon Bell?  
Gettledogman : 5/15/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14444857 GiantBlue said:
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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN .

One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign LeíVeon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didnít want to spend a lot of money on any running back.

Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ ∑ 5m .

And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets


This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
I'm sure  
retiredmz : 5/15/2019 1:59 pm : link
Francesa will spend 3 1/2 hours talking about how the Giants and Jets are now both the laughing stock of the NFL
RE: RE: Wow.....was part of it about Gase not wanting to sign Leveon Bell?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/15/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14445001 Gettledogman said:
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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN .

One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign LeíVeon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didnít want to spend a lot of money on any running back.

Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ ∑ 5m .

And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets



This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.

Santonio Holmes 2.0 XD
RE: LOL  
bigbluescot : 5/15/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14444911 Mr. Bungle said:
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@AdamSchefter

Just months after NFLN Draft Analyst Mike Mayock took the Raidersí GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the NY Jets, per sources. NFLN Draft Analyst job has become breeding ground for front-office jobs.


If you've heard Jeremiah talk, I doubt he'd want it. He's got a young family and likes the work/life balance. Of course, money talks.
RE: And no one could read DG?  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/15/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14444871 figgy2989 said:
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He would talk to anyone that would listen that he was going to take Barkley in 2018.

You are trying too hard to troll at this point.

Just Denny being Denny. I'm sure he'll be gone soon, just like Maccagnan.
RE: RE: RE: Wow.....was part of it about Gase not wanting to sign Leveon Bell?  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/15/2019 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14445007 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14444857 GiantBlue said:


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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN .

One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign LeíVeon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didnít want to spend a lot of money on any running back.

Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ ∑ 5m .

And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets



This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.


Santonio Holmes 2.0 XD

You're just going to sign every post XD now, ex-Denny? You're not funny, you're not entertaining. You're a waste of bandwidth here and waste of oxygen everywhere else.
RE: LOL  
Anakim : 5/15/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14444911 Mr. Bungle said:
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@AdamSchefter

Just months after NFLN Draft Analyst Mike Mayock took the Raidersí GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the NY Jets, per sources. NFLN Draft Analyst job has become breeding ground for front-office jobs.


Hahaha. Meanwhile, Kiper and McShay are sitting in dark rooms.
RE: RE: And no one could read DG?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/15/2019 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14445063 Gatorade Dunk said:
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He would talk to anyone that would listen that he was going to take Barkley in 2018.

You are trying too hard to troll at this point.


Just Denny being Denny. I'm sure he'll be gone soon, just like Maccagnan.

Again, stop derailing threads with your cyberstalking hallucinations, you are learly suffering from the onset of dimensia.

I really have to look up Donny posts, that guy sounds awesome :p
Gase..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/15/2019 3:41 pm : link
will probably have to pick his GM because what I've heard is that he's extremely difficult to get along with. Burned bridges in Miami and was trying to hardline Maccagnan from Day 1.

From what I've heard, it wasn't so much a power struggle as it was Gase making a lot of demands. Supposedly, before the draft, Mac and Gase got together to strategize and Gase walked out early and reportedly said "You'll pick the guys I tell you to" and alluded to Mac being gone soon.

Gase is a trainwreck.
RE: RE: RE: And no one could read DG?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/15/2019 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14445160 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14444871 figgy2989 said:


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He would talk to anyone that would listen that he was going to take Barkley in 2018.

You are trying too hard to troll at this point.


Just Denny being Denny. I'm sure he'll be gone soon, just like Maccagnan.


Again, stop derailing threads with your cyberstalking hallucinations, you are learly suffering from the onset of dimensia.

I really have to look up Donny posts, that guy sounds awesome :p




It can't happen soon enough!
Whats Jerry Reese doing these days?  
Brown Recluse : 5/15/2019 3:43 pm : link
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Can..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/15/2019 3:46 pm : link
you imagine if the Jets hired Reese or Ross!!
They should  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/15/2019 4:06 pm : link
hire Jerry Reese.

I'd like to see him redeem himself. I think he could do well with out Ross by his side.
Two of the few who would  
johnnyb : 5/15/2019 4:07 pm : link
probably accept the job.

Not many qualified candidates who will want to work for Adam Gase.
When Did Gase Become  
clatterbuck : 5/15/2019 4:22 pm : link
the second coming of Bill Belichick? He and Greg Williams could be Kevin Gilbride/Buddy Ryan 2.0. Get yer popcorn, Jets fans.
Reports are that  
Jim Bur(n)t : 5/15/2019 4:44 pm : link
Daniel Jeremiah is a candidate for the job?!!!! LOL.. Get the f outta here!!!
Why does Gase have this much power?  
FStubbs : 5/15/2019 6:53 pm : link
Didn't Peyton Manning make this guy? What has he done when Peyton wasn't writing his playbook?
RE: They should  
FStubbs : 5/15/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14445209 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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hire Jerry Reese.

I'd like to see him redeem himself. I think he could do well with out Ross by his side.


Reese wouldn't take this job. Ross would!
yeah, I don't get this either.  
Del Shofner : 5/15/2019 7:21 pm : link
I don't follow the Jets all that closely but for any sports team it's a no-no to do this unless the coach is some kind of legend and has earned it.
...  
HitSquad : 5/15/2019 7:45 pm : link
Joe B's off-air comments
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I just want to say it again (as others have said)  
djm : 5/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
there are probably millions of fans in the truth state area alone that are convinced that the jets are on an absolute lock paved in gold track while the giants are an absolute train wreck. Why? Because one team took a rb last April while the other one took a qb. And it just spiraled from there. Iím not even trying to prop the giants up, they still need a lot of shit to go right with these kids developing but the jets....... THE JETS!!! I can take some shit but the jets.... That i canít take.

We complain about shurmur? Thereís no doubt that shurmur can and will get the most out of a qb. Heís produced winning nfl offense on more than one occasion as OC with not exactly stellar talent. Gase?? Great he has a slightly under 500 record as HC. Wooopy heís won more games as HC than shurmur. Iím sure heíd suck ass too if he coached cleveland like shurmur did. Gase was mediocre as OC prior to that. Now heís orchestrating an nfl coup. Enjoy it jets fans.
RE: ...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14445461 HitSquad said:
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Joe B's off-air comments Link - ( New Window )


I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.


On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
RE: Wow what a shit storm this is  
santacruzom : 5/15/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14444854 kelsto811 said:
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Manish Mehta
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson...

Gase absolutely did not want to sign LeíVeon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didnít want to spend a lot of money on any running back.


Weren't we just eviscerating that Mehta guy for stating that one team wanted to try Daniel Jones out at TE?
Iím still waiting for Gase to turn into a fucking bat  
djm : 5/15/2019 9:03 pm : link
During one of those press conferences following a bad loss.
QB Whisperer is now the Interim GM  
eric2425ny : 5/15/2019 10:42 pm : link
RE: RE: ...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/16/2019 8:33 am : link
In comment 14445543 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Joe B's off-air comments Link - ( New Window )



I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.


On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.

As usual a simple minded and gullible analysis from someone who easily falls for the bbi-espn narrative. Why would the jets fire someone who drafted their messiah Darnold and his qb whisperer lol
RE: RE: RE: ...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/16/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14445812 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14445543 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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In comment 14445461 HitSquad said:


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Joe B's off-air comments Link - ( New Window )



I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.


On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.


As usual a simple minded and gullible analysis from someone who easily falls for the bbi-espn narrative. Why would the jets fire someone who drafted their messiah Darnold and his qb whisperer lol


Coach Red has darnold on the brain so much he must have to pay rent.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/16/2019 9:32 am : link
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When did MacCagnan suddenly become an a-hole?  
ColHowPepper : 5/16/2019 10:53 am : link
Three years as relatively low profile and suddenly, with Gase on the scene and looking to stir s..t, it's McC the a-hole? What is the basis for this take?
Especially when Gase is the one with the 'hard to deal with' rep.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/16/2019 11:12 am : link
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exactly  
ColHowPepper : 5/16/2019 11:42 am : link
it seemed to me, as Metro area Giants fan, can't help but see and feel the Jets' coverage in the media. MacCagnan and Bowles were about as low profile a GM/HC tandem as the NFL had.
yep but the Giants are the one with "no plan"  
Stu11 : 5/16/2019 2:56 pm : link
uh huh...whatever
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