Had a very good offseason: got Le’veon Bell and CJ Mosley and drafted Quennen Williams at 3, not to mention last year’s draft of Sam Darnold . Jets are just fcukin dumb
He way OVERPAID for Mosley. The only way the Jets could sign him as he wanted to stay with the Ravens.
He lost out on the LB from Minny, who agreed and then changed his mind.
NO OTHER TEAM wanted Bell. He was literally bidding against himself.
He FAILED to trade back and acquire picks.
A blind squirrel could have made the Williams pick at 3.
You have to give him credit for trading up to 3 last year for a QB (Darnold fell to him), but again, he paid a HUGE price to move from 6 to 3.
Darnold is still TBD, he hasn't shown anything yet to make someone think he's really good. If he is just a journeyman type guy, then last years draft was a disaster for the Jets
but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.
RE: Got this from my Jets fan friend a few weeks ago Â
who is close with someone in the jets organization ,this is the email the guy in the organization sent him the day after round one of the draft
Remember after FA when I said i heard there was a rift between Mac and Gase already? Well according to my very reliable source within the Jets organization, not only is it 100% true, but it is BAD! Its stems from a few things. 1) Gase being a type A psycho control freak who is now realizing his loss of personal power kind of sucks and look at Mac as a lame duck GM, 2) the apparent fact that Mac is totally wishy washy and cant make a decision and 3) Free agency. There were two players Gase really wanted in FA that Mac would not go after. One, as we discussed prior was Paradis. Gase wanted him, Paradis wanted the Jets, for whatever reason Mac said no. The other was a TE from Cleveland (cant recall his name) that Mac also said no to. And this really pissed off Gase. Also while the organization doesnt totally blame Mac for the Barr debacle, they are pissed that it made the team look so bad and also that Mac had no plan B and now they still need an edge rusher. Rumor (unconfirmed) is that there was a chance Mac was going to be canned after the draft...again totally unconfirmed.
There was a dinner last Wednesday between Gase, Mac and a moderator to try and mend the rift. i dont know if all is well or not now but that prior Gase was trying to do what he could to force Mac out. So the dysfunction continues....
Other briefs ON The draft not saying all are true, just what i heard.
Big Fred, thanks for sharing. I was listening to Dave Te's podcast before the draft and he was saying that the word was McCagnan was going to be fired right after the draft and that power struggle was a mess.
To not have your coach and GM on the same page, particularly a new coach with a spotty track record, as they put together the team during the offseason and then fire the GM right now has to be a joke move and one which basically signals that Gase is coaching a team that he didn't really want.
At the very least, we can see that Gettleman and Shurmur are on the same page.
but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.
I agree, but that's a pretty bad look since Gase hasn't even been on the job for 6 months. Why hire a HC that didn't have chemistry with your GM? Or why keep the GM if you felt that HC was a must hire?
but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.
I agree, but that's a pretty bad look since Gase hasn't even been on the job for 6 months. Why hire a HC that didn't have chemistry with your GM? Or why keep the GM if you felt that HC was a must hire?
Fairly sure that DG was fired b/c of the sexual predator Richardson, not b/c of the head coach.
was Carolina fired their GM and went on their merry way and had a good season. People overreact to these things like this especially a guy like Bonigno who seems love being miserable over the Jets. They fired their GM. They will get a new one. Maybe they will be better for it.
He will be in hiding for the forseeable future. That is until Darnold throws a td in the preseason then he will grace us with his presence and predict an MVP season for Darnold.
was Carolina fired their GM and went on their merry way and had a good season. People overreact to these things like this especially a guy like Bonigno who seems love being miserable over the Jets. They fired their GM. They will get a new one. Maybe they will be better for it.
It's a completely different situation. The GM had built the team with players that the head coach wanted. And the head coach had been there for six years - and went to the Super Bowl in one of those years.
RE: Wow.....was part of it about Gase not wanting to sign Leveon Bell? Â
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ · 5m .
And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets
This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ · 5m .
And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets
This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
Just months after NFLN Draft Analyst Mike Mayock took the Raiders’ GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the NY Jets, per sources. NFLN Draft Analyst job has become breeding ground for front-office jobs.
If you've heard Jeremiah talk, I doubt he'd want it. He's got a young family and likes the work/life balance. Of course, money talks.
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ · 5m .
And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets
This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
Santonio Holmes 2.0 XD
You're just going to sign every post XD now, ex-Denny? You're not funny, you're not entertaining. You're a waste of bandwidth here and waste of oxygen everywhere else.
Just months after NFLN Draft Analyst Mike Mayock took the Raiders’ GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the NY Jets, per sources. NFLN Draft Analyst job has become breeding ground for front-office jobs.
Hahaha. Meanwhile, Kiper and McShay are sitting in dark rooms.
will probably have to pick his GM because what I've heard is that he's extremely difficult to get along with. Burned bridges in Miami and was trying to hardline Maccagnan from Day 1.
From what I've heard, it wasn't so much a power struggle as it was Gase making a lot of demands. Supposedly, before the draft, Mac and Gase got together to strategize and Gase walked out early and reportedly said "You'll pick the guys I tell you to" and alluded to Mac being gone soon.
there are probably millions of fans in the truth state area alone that are convinced that the jets are on an absolute lock paved in gold track while the giants are an absolute train wreck. Why? Because one team took a rb last April while the other one took a qb. And it just spiraled from there. I’m not even trying to prop the giants up, they still need a lot of shit to go right with these kids developing but the jets....... THE JETS!!! I can take some shit but the jets.... That i can’t take.
We complain about shurmur? There’s no doubt that shurmur can and will get the most out of a qb. He’s produced winning nfl offense on more than one occasion as OC with not exactly stellar talent. Gase?? Great he has a slightly under 500 record as HC. Wooopy he’s won more games as HC than shurmur. I’m sure he’d suck ass too if he coached cleveland like shurmur did. Gase was mediocre as OC prior to that. Now he’s orchestrating an nfl coup. Enjoy it jets fans.
I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.
On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
Manish Mehta
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson...
Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Weren't we just eviscerating that Mehta guy for stating that one team wanted to try Daniel Jones out at TE?
I’m still waiting for Gase to turn into a fucking bat Â
I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.
On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
As usual a simple minded and gullible analysis from someone who easily falls for the bbi-espn narrative. Why would the jets fire someone who drafted their messiah Darnold and his qb whisperer lol
I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.
On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
As usual a simple minded and gullible analysis from someone who easily falls for the bbi-espn narrative. Why would the jets fire someone who drafted their messiah Darnold and his qb whisperer lol
Coach Red has darnold on the brain so much he must have to pay rent. Â
Three years as relatively low profile and suddenly, with Gase on the scene and looking to stir s..t, it's McC the a-hole? What is the basis for this take?
Especially when Gase is the one with the 'hard to deal with' rep. Â
it seemed to me, as Metro area Giants fan, can't help but see and feel the Jets' coverage in the media. MacCagnan and Bowles were about as low profile a GM/HC tandem as the NFL had.
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Had a very good offseason: got Le’veon Bell and CJ Mosley and drafted Quennen Williams at 3, not to mention last year’s draft of Sam Darnold . Jets are just fcukin dumb
He way OVERPAID for Mosley. The only way the Jets could sign him as he wanted to stay with the Ravens.
He lost out on the LB from Minny, who agreed and then changed his mind.
NO OTHER TEAM wanted Bell. He was literally bidding against himself.
He FAILED to trade back and acquire picks.
A blind squirrel could have made the Williams pick at 3.
You have to give him credit for trading up to 3 last year for a QB (Darnold fell to him), but again, he paid a HUGE price to move from 6 to 3.
Darnold is still TBD, he hasn't shown anything yet to make someone think he's really good. If he is just a journeyman type guy, then last years draft was a disaster for the Jets
Imagine how sad this guys life must be that he spends so much time trolling a message board and takes pleasure in doing so.
Joke of a team lol
I wouldn't put it past the Jets to hire a pro personnel director who is in jail.
Remember after FA when I said i heard there was a rift between Mac and Gase already? Well according to my very reliable source within the Jets organization, not only is it 100% true, but it is BAD! Its stems from a few things. 1) Gase being a type A psycho control freak who is now realizing his loss of personal power kind of sucks and look at Mac as a lame duck GM, 2) the apparent fact that Mac is totally wishy washy and cant make a decision and 3) Free agency. There were two players Gase really wanted in FA that Mac would not go after. One, as we discussed prior was Paradis. Gase wanted him, Paradis wanted the Jets, for whatever reason Mac said no. The other was a TE from Cleveland (cant recall his name) that Mac also said no to. And this really pissed off Gase. Also while the organization doesnt totally blame Mac for the Barr debacle, they are pissed that it made the team look so bad and also that Mac had no plan B and now they still need an edge rusher. Rumor (unconfirmed) is that there was a chance Mac was going to be canned after the draft...again totally unconfirmed.
There was a dinner last Wednesday between Gase, Mac and a moderator to try and mend the rift. i dont know if all is well or not now but that prior Gase was trying to do what he could to force Mac out. So the dysfunction continues....
Other briefs ON The draft not saying all are true, just what i heard.
Big Fred, thanks for sharing. I was listening to Dave Te's podcast before the draft and he was saying that the word was McCagnan was going to be fired right after the draft and that power struggle was a mess.
To not have your coach and GM on the same page, particularly a new coach with a spotty track record, as they put together the team during the offseason and then fire the GM right now has to be a joke move and one which basically signals that Gase is coaching a team that he didn't really want.
At the very least, we can see that Gettleman and Shurmur are on the same page.
The Jets just can't help themselves.
I agree, but that's a pretty bad look since Gase hasn't even been on the job for 6 months. Why hire a HC that didn't have chemistry with your GM? Or why keep the GM if you felt that HC was a must hire?
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but if in fact the coach and GM were at loggerheads and the situation couldn't be mediated then they had to fire one or the other. Timing is bad but the Panthers fired Gettleman at a similar point in time a few years ago and went on to have a good season.
I agree, but that's a pretty bad look since Gase hasn't even been on the job for 6 months. Why hire a HC that didn't have chemistry with your GM? Or why keep the GM if you felt that HC was a must hire?
Fairly sure that DG was fired b/c of the sexual predator Richardson, not b/c of the head coach.
He will be in hiding for the forseeable future. That is until Darnold throws a td in the preseason then he will grace us with his presence and predict an MVP season for Darnold.
It's a completely different situation. The GM had built the team with players that the head coach wanted. And the head coach had been there for six years - and went to the Super Bowl in one of those years.
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ · 5m .
And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets
This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN .
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ · 5m .
And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets
This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
Santonio Holmes 2.0 XD
Just months after NFLN Draft Analyst Mike Mayock took the Raiders’ GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the NY Jets, per sources. NFLN Draft Analyst job has become breeding ground for front-office jobs.
If you've heard Jeremiah talk, I doubt he'd want it. He's got a young family and likes the work/life balance. Of course, money talks.
You are trying too hard to troll at this point.
Just Denny being Denny. I'm sure he'll be gone soon, just like Maccagnan.
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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN .
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson... Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Kevin Sirkin @KS1988NYJ · 5m .
And now Bell will report to camp in a few weeks to play for the coach that didn't want him...can't imagine anything going wrong here #Jets
This will become a nightmare for them. Bell is not someone you want upset on a team. Just Wow.
Santonio Holmes 2.0 XD
You're just going to sign every post XD now, ex-Denny? You're not funny, you're not entertaining. You're a waste of bandwidth here and waste of oxygen everywhere else.
Just months after NFLN Draft Analyst Mike Mayock took the Raiders’ GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the NY Jets, per sources. NFLN Draft Analyst job has become breeding ground for front-office jobs.
Hahaha. Meanwhile, Kiper and McShay are sitting in dark rooms.
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He would talk to anyone that would listen that he was going to take Barkley in 2018.
You are trying too hard to troll at this point.
Just Denny being Denny. I'm sure he'll be gone soon, just like Maccagnan.
Again, stop derailing threads with your cyberstalking hallucinations, you are learly suffering from the onset of dimensia.
I really have to look up Donny posts, that guy sounds awesome :p
From what I've heard, it wasn't so much a power struggle as it was Gase making a lot of demands. Supposedly, before the draft, Mac and Gase got together to strategize and Gase walked out early and reportedly said "You'll pick the guys I tell you to" and alluded to Mac being gone soon.
Gase is a trainwreck.
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He would talk to anyone that would listen that he was going to take Barkley in 2018.
You are trying too hard to troll at this point.
Just Denny being Denny. I'm sure he'll be gone soon, just like Maccagnan.
Again, stop derailing threads with your cyberstalking hallucinations, you are learly suffering from the onset of dimensia.
I really have to look up Donny posts, that guy sounds awesome :p
It can't happen soon enough!
I'd like to see him redeem himself. I think he could do well with out Ross by his side.
Not many qualified candidates who will want to work for Adam Gase.
I'd like to see him redeem himself. I think he could do well with out Ross by his side.
Reese wouldn't take this job. Ross would!
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We complain about shurmur? There’s no doubt that shurmur can and will get the most out of a qb. He’s produced winning nfl offense on more than one occasion as OC with not exactly stellar talent. Gase?? Great he has a slightly under 500 record as HC. Wooopy he’s won more games as HC than shurmur. I’m sure he’d suck ass too if he coached cleveland like shurmur did. Gase was mediocre as OC prior to that. Now he’s orchestrating an nfl coup. Enjoy it jets fans.
I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.
On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
One disagreement between Adam Gase and Mike Maccagnan/Christopher Johnson...
Gase absolutely did not want to sign Le’Veon Bell, per sources. In fact, he made it clear that he didn’t want to spend a lot of money on any running back.
Weren't we just eviscerating that Mehta guy for stating that one team wanted to try Daniel Jones out at TE?
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I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.
On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
As usual a simple minded and gullible analysis from someone who easily falls for the bbi-espn narrative. Why would the jets fire someone who drafted their messiah Darnold and his qb whisperer lol
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I agree with what Joe is saying, Gase hasn't won anything. I don't think Gase is wrong for thinking they over paid for players like Bell and Mosley. He's right there.
On the flip side though Maccagnan deserved to be fired. You hire someone and within the first few months, you can't get along with him and he's your hire!?! It had to be done right away. Stop the bleeding now.
As usual a simple minded and gullible analysis from someone who easily falls for the bbi-espn narrative. Why would the jets fire someone who drafted their messiah Darnold and his qb whisperer lol