|
|
Â
|
| Quote: |
He hasn’t grabbed the headlines like Jamal Adams, but Peppers was a productive defensive chess piece in his own right. His 12 pressures were the third-most among safeties last year, and his 23 coverage stops ranked 18th – and Peppers is only still getting familiar with the position. Somewhat ironically, the closest corollary to Peppers at the position is actually the guy he’s replacing. Landon Collins spent over half his snaps as a rookie at deep safety and got even more exposed as the lowest-graded safety in the NFL. In Year 2, Collins shifted to a box role, and the natural playmaking ability took over as he led the position in stops. In 2018 though, it was Peppers who actually graded out higher for PFF. |
Quote:
In comment 14445816 GothamGiants said:
Quote:
Collins is a good player, incredibly overrated, and a poor scheme fit.
Incredibly overrated? Maybe by the Redskins given the contract they gave him but not on BBI.
Overrated by Washington, clearly, and pretty much every national media outlet and/or casual fan.
He is awful in man coverage - it is impossible to be a “great” safety and have such a major deficiency.
Again, I liked Collins - but he’s nowhere near as good as some think.
Peppers will do a lot more than “fill Collins’ shoes” ... he’s a better overall safety and much better scheme fit.
He would have been fine in a Cam Chancellor centric scheme, where Seattle ran constant cover 3 sky and Cover 1 robbers, but that's not Bettchers D it seems. Not quite the enforcer Cam was though, and Riley isn't exactly Earl Thomas of course.
His performance against the Denver Broncos illustrated his ability to make plays when lined up all over the field.
On Saturday, Peppers lined up at the line of scrimmage as an edge defender on 10 defensive snaps, something he did only 29 times total in 2017. With the additional snaps close to the line of scrimmage came some opportunities to get after the quarterback as a pass rusher, and that is an area that Peppers made an impact. The game-clinching sack late in the game stands out for obvious reasons, but Peppers was a consistent presence in the backfield all game. On his nine pass-rushing snaps, he generated four total pressures, which nearly matches the total of five that he had all last season.
And naturally, with all the talk about Peppers playing out of position at free safety, his best play of the game came when lined up deep. On this interception of Keenum at the end of the first half, Peppers did an excellent job of making a break on the deep pass and using his speed to cover a whole lot of ground and get to the football.
While the sort of athleticism needed to make that play was never a question for Peppers, his coverage instincts were. The ability to quickly decipher that throw and break on the ball early is indicative of the step forward that Peppers has taken in Year 2 of his NFL career.
He can lineup all over, is an effective blitzed and has range in coverage due to his speed.
Quote:
In comment 14445906 GothamGiants said:
Quote:
In comment 14445897 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
In comment 14445843 UberAlias said:
Quote:
In comment 14445817 GothamGiants said:
Quote:
In comment 14445808 FStubbs said:
Quote:
It's not the 80s.
Short n sweet n absolutely right
Tell that to the coaching staff and GM. It starts with running the ball and stopping the run, is't that the mantra we keep hearing? BBI like to talk out of both sides of its mouth.
"run the ball, stop the run" is press conference sound bytes. Yes it matters some. No it's not everything. This is a passing league.
Those were the worst rushing defenses in the league by yards allowed per attempt. And yet the Rams and Patriots played in the Superbowl. The Chiefs got to their conference title game.
These were the best run defenses in football by the same measure.
The
Seems like the top 6 run defenses all made the playoffs ... weird
And went home early to the bottom 5 run defenses.
Saints D: 3.0 YPC in playoffs
Patriots D: 3.1 YPC in playoffs
Rams D: 3.4 YPC in playoffs
Chiefs D: 4.2 YPC in playoffs
Bottom 5 run defenses over 16 games that suddenly get hot in the playoffs is a terrible example of anything. And nobody said anything about fantasy football. Quit strawmanning nonsense words.
The real question is K. Chancellor or E. Thomas would have been half as good playing next BW Webb, C. Riley, BJ Goodson and whatever crap they had in the defensive backfield over the better part of the past two seasons.
Let's not even get into who they had rushing the passer during the same time frame.
The real question is K. Chancellor or E. Thomas would have been half as good playing next BW Webb, C. Riley, BJ Goodson and whatever crap they had in the defensive backfield over the better part of the past two seasons.
Let's not even get into who they had rushing the passer during the same time frame.
I do think there is some truth to this, in Collins best season he was playing alongside teammates who were all playing at a dominant level. If the defense is functioning well, it certainly helps. Same could be applied to Bethea, in 2017 with Betcher he had a career year, playing on a good Cardinals defense, the Cardinals defense regressed significantly in 2018, which I’m sure had an impact on Bethea. When your teammates are effectively doing their jobs it only helps , and allows a player to trust his teammates and not try to compensate, or anticipate mistakes.
Good point and it’s a huge component of Bettcher’s defense
Huge upgrade from one dimensional Collins and Curtis “How did we get to this point?” Riley
For the $14M per year average salary the Giants could pay for;
Jabril Peppers (minor downgrade at SS): $2.6M per
Antoine Bethea (Upgrade at FS): $3.25M per
Mike Remmers (Upgrade at OT)): $2.5M per
I wonder where I should put the remaining $8.35M after signing 3 solid players with the savings of letting Collins walk.
You can see how good he could be as he was a defensive MVP candidate.
If we ever had a competent safety next to him, I don't think people would be so down on him.
I wonder where I should put the remaining $8.35M after signing 3 solid players with the savings of letting Collins walk.
Sorry I meant remaining $5.65M.
Quote:
safety to play besides.
You can see how good he could be as he was a defensive MVP candidate.
If we ever had a competent safety next to him, I don't think people would be so down on him.
Exactly this. That's not to say this would have entirely offset LC's shortcomings in coverage, but they would have been significantly less exposed.
Great safeties don't need other players to help them hide from being exposed.
For the $14M per year average salary the Giants could pay for;
Jabril Peppers (minor downgrade at SS): $2.6M per
Antoine Bethea (Upgrade at FS): $3.25M per
Mike Remmers (Upgrade at OT)): $2.5M per
I wonder where I should put the remaining $8.35M after signing 3 solid players with the savings of letting Collins walk.
Peppers is not a downgrade, at all ... but this point is still great in terms of roster flexibility
Peppers is not a downgrade, at all ... but this point is still great in terms of roster flexibility
Honestly, I agree with you on that but I gave in to what I think is the general consensus. I believe Peppers has more to offer than Collins. I remember them asking Collins to play some LB to which he said no. Peppers is going to fill that moneybacker role that Betcher wants and I love the flexibility there.
I would like to update my previous because I didn't have much time at work to research while on break. This time I'll leave the upgrade/downgrade of each player to everyone else.
For the $14M per year average salary that Washington is paying for Collins:
Jabril Peppers: $2.6M per
Antoine Bethea: $3.25M per
Mike Remmers: $2.5M per
Markus Golden: $3.75 per
What's left? $1.95M
What could that go towards? One of the draft picks?
So, the absolute worst way to look at it is 1 great SS in Collins for 4 good players all at major positions of need. I actually look at it as 1 good SS in Collins for 1 good SS in Peppers with a lot of potential, 1 upgrade at FS in Bethea, 1 upgrade at RT in Remmers, and 1 flyer on a guy who was very good until an ACL tear 2 years ago in Golden.