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Giving up a safety on purpose

RicosRoidedElbow : 5/16/2019 8:57 pm
I was eager to learn what people's opinions were on this. Why do players (usually a punter, QB) just toss the ball through the back of the endzone when the snap goes over their heads?

Remember Philip Rivers did this vs the Giants in the 2017? Why not try and make a play out of it? Or what happened to Peyton Manning on the opening play of the Hawks and Broncos Super Bowl?

One time when I was playing ball in high school the ball snapped through the QBs hands and I was RB and actually picked it up pretty deep into the endzone, maybe broke two tackles and stretched it out to the 2 yard line. At least make an effort?

My father always told me never to give up. It makes sense, why just give up the points? Then you gotta give them the ball back anyway? So you could lose 9 points without touching the ball. In my case I brought it to the 2 yard line. It was 4th and 38 or whatever but we didn't give up any points?

Why give your opponent 2 chances to score without seeing the ball?
Depends on the score, time left, down and distance, where the ball is,  
robbieballs2003 : 5/16/2019 9:02 pm : link
etc. If you are up by 6 points with the ball on your 1 inch yard line and it is 4th and 11 then you take the safety if there is minimal time left. The opposing team can win with a TD. Normal punters line up 15 yards deep. They cannot do that from the 1 inch yard line. If the punt gets block, the opposing team can jump on it for the win. Even if you get the ball off the other team will have the ball around midfield. If you take the safety it is a 4 point game and then you get a free kick (punt) and can pin the opposing team further from the end zone.
You give up the safety  
joeinpa : 5/17/2019 7:07 am : link
To save pts and field position.

In your example you ran it out to the 2 yard line and gave the opponent a great chance for 6 instead of punting from your 20 and having a good chance to keep them out of end zone. 2<6

But that seems so obvious, I think I m misunderstanding your question.
Aww, people are actually answering  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/17/2019 7:29 am : link
like they haven't figured out yet that you're the most recent Simo dupe incarnation.
RE: You give up the safety  
Milton : 5/17/2019 7:29 am : link
In comment 14446787 joeinpa said:
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But that seems so obvious, I think I m misunderstanding your question.
I'm thinking the same thing, what am I missing here?
Is this  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/17/2019 8:14 am : link
a serious question? Those exampels are terrible.

Peyton Manning and Phillip Rivers had 0 chance to make a play and get out of the endzone. These are 280 lb+ lineman running a 4.6 40 running at them, not the slow 5'5 160 lb kid you played against on the JV squad in high school. Peyton manning and Rivers aren't breaking two tackles in the end zone. they are getting drilled and will be lucky to hang on to the ball and keep it as a safety.

For Punters, why would they run it out to the 2 on 4th down and give the other team a high chance at 7 points when they can give up two and punt the ball away? To not give up and hope for a miracle rather than make a smart choice?

It is situational of course, but its almost always the right decision.
Depending on the situation -- the score, the time remaining,  
CT Charlie : 5/17/2019 8:18 am : link
and the strength of your defense -- punting from inside the 5 can be a lot riskier than conceding 2 points and taking a free kick from the 20.
This..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/17/2019 8:26 am : link
guy has to work harder at trolling.

Anyone who knows a whit about the game understands there are strategic situations where giving up 2 points is the best result - or the least harmful result.
RE: This..  
joeinpa : 5/17/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14446825 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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guy has to work harder at trolling.

Anyone who knows a whit about the game understands there are strategic situations where giving up 2 points is the best result - or the least harmful result.


I am easily duped. I never know when I m being trolled or not
beyond the troll attempt  
Matt in SGS : 5/17/2019 8:47 am : link
I will say the most creative version of taking the safety came in the Ravens vs. Bengals game a few years back, where on a punt, pretty much the entire Ravens team intentionally held Bengals players and had the punter run around for a while until he stepped out of the end zone for a safety to kill the clock. Harbaugh being a former special teams coordinator got a nod for that one. It was almost like the movie The Replacements, where they all get penalties on one play beating the shit out of the other team.
RE: RE: This..  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/17/2019 8:49 am : link
In comment 14446838 joeinpa said:
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In comment 14446825 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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guy has to work harder at trolling.

Anyone who knows a whit about the game understands there are strategic situations where giving up 2 points is the best result - or the least harmful result.



I am easily duped. I never know when I m being trolled or not

It wouldn't be any fun to broadcast it (and risk having it stop), but the Simo dupe handles always have a particular signature (actually, a few) to them that makes them easy to spot.
What is a Simo dupe  
Leg of Theismann : 5/17/2019 3:07 pm : link
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