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Engram: Daniel Jones picking up offense 'really fast'

ZogZerg : 5/17/2019 10:30 am
Just a small article on NFL.com until Monday's action.

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Tight end Evan Engram has been impressed with Jones and provided some glowing remarks on how quickly the signal-caller has acclimated.

"He's picking up [the offense] really fast," Engram said Thursday night during a celebrity softball game at Yankee Stadium, via Matt Lombardo of NJ.com . "They've been trying to throw some stuff at him and he's handled it really well."

Engram: Daniel Jones picking up offense 'really fast' - ( New Window )
Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/17/2019 10:33 am : link
About Fatty Haskins.
RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Giantology : 5/17/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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About Fatty Haskins.


I'm sure you quite svelte yourself, dickhead.
RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
ZogZerg : 5/17/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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About Fatty Haskins.


Why do you wonder that?
Why don't you go to your skins boards and find out.
Could be a record  
Fast Eddie : 5/17/2019 10:45 am : link
For amount of time it took for name calling on a bbi thread. Congrats!
RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
26.2 : 5/17/2019 10:46 am : link
In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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About Fatty Haskins.


They gush about him at least once an hour on sports radio here in the DMV.
Didnít they always say this crap about the new QBís?  
giantsFC : 5/17/2019 10:50 am : link
I bet Bill Gates can also learn a playbook really fast
RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/17/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14447023 26.2 said:
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In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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About Fatty Haskins.



They gush about him at least once an hour on sports radio here in the DMV.

What do they like and say about disgusting fatbody?
RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Klaatu : 5/17/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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About Fatty Haskins.


Man, show some class.
RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Greg from LI : 5/17/2019 11:14 am : link
In comment 14447077 Klaatu said:
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Man, show some class.


He's a Simo dupe - why waste your time?
I'm very happy to hear this  
ATL_Giants : 5/17/2019 11:20 am : link
but after all the glowing reports we got about Davis Webb, I can't help but take this as supportive, media-friendly comments that don't really mean anything.
RE: I'm very happy to hear this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/17/2019 11:37 am : link
In comment 14447088 ATL_Giants said:
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but after all the glowing reports we got about Davis Webb, I can't help but take this as supportive, media-friendly comments that don't really mean anything.


At least, unlike Webb, it's not Jones himself screaming that from the rooftops.
One thing I wonder about with Jones  
jcn56 : 5/17/2019 11:57 am : link
if we're truly going to entertain the 'open competition' theory - is just how much better he has to be than Eli to earn the nod opening day.

I personally don't think the competition is really open - unless Eli has significantly regressed, it's his job to lose. So if they exit camp with Jones having performed slightly better, I don't see there's any way he's getting snaps in week 1.

How big would the gap between the two have to be to give Jones a shot at starting wk1, given Eli's experience and reputation with the team?
He'd have to set the world on fire  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/17/2019 12:00 pm : link
And Eli would have to play at a level that shakes the trust of the head coach.

Kids always have to go above and beyond to displace vets, at least at the start of the year.

no one said there will be an open competition  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 12:00 pm : link
in fact they said the complete opposite

Eli is the starter
I can't recall the exact quote off-hand  
Bill L : 5/17/2019 12:02 pm : link
but it was something like 'It's Eli's job to keep Jones on the bench".

SO, not an open competition but it's not entrenching Eli either.
RE: RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Klaatu : 5/17/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14447079 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14447077 Klaatu said:


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Man, show some class.



He's a Simo dupe - why waste your time?


Is he really? I can never tell.
RE: no one said there will be an open competition  
jcn56 : 5/17/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14447171 ron mexico said:
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in fact they said the complete opposite

Eli is the starter


I'll admit I haven't been following as closely as in the past due to work, but I thought I read that they were going to compete. If anything, it makes more sense to just outright kill that from the start to reduce expectations on Jones.
RE: RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
arcarsenal : 5/17/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14447079 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14447077 Klaatu said:


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Man, show some class.



He's a Simo dupe - why waste your time?


Pretty sure it's Dummy in Dumbville.
RE: RE: no one said there will be an open competition  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14447218 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14447171 ron mexico said:


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in fact they said the complete opposite

Eli is the starter



I'll admit I haven't been following as closely as in the past due to work, but I thought I read that they were going to compete. If anything, it makes more sense to just outright kill that from the start to reduce expectations on Jones.


Yeah, the first remarks after he was drafted were Eli is the starter.

It was literally the first thing they said.

RE: I can't recall the exact quote off-hand  
GothamGiants : 5/17/2019 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14447178 Bill L said:
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but it was something like 'It's Eli's job to keep Jones on the bench".

SO, not an open competition but it's not entrenching Eli either.


Shurmurís basically said this, in combination with Shula flat out saying they are fast tracking his (Jones) development to the point of him being ďreadyĒ week 1 ... Eli is going to need to play well to keep his job
He's no  
stoneman : 5/17/2019 12:27 pm : link
Marilu Henner :)
Great stuff.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/17/2019 12:34 pm : link
Can't wait for 2020!
RE: One thing I wonder about with Jones  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/17/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14447162 jcn56 said:
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if we're truly going to entertain the 'open competition' theory - is just how much better he has to be than Eli to earn the nod opening day.

I personally don't think the competition is really open - unless Eli has significantly regressed, it's his job to lose. So if they exit camp with Jones having performed slightly better, I don't see there's any way he's getting snaps in week 1.

How big would the gap between the two have to be to give Jones a shot at starting wk1, given Eli's experience and reputation with the team?


Jones might pick up the offense faster than any QB in the history of the league, but still not approach Eli's mental side with 15 years' experience. C'mon now...

Unless Eli and the team stink it up Eli's starting all year.
Biggest mistake Parcells ever made...  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/17/2019 1:00 pm : link
...was his first big decision as head coach. Simms was one year removed from knee reconstruction, and still feeling his way back. Brunner outplayed him in preseason, and Parcells decided to go with the QB who looked sharper going into September. Nearly cost him his NFL coaching career.

Eli hasnít treated preseason as anything more than a tune-up for over a decade. The staff knows what he can and canít do. To the extent thereís a decision to be made, itís about Jones and his progress, not some silly competition based on a few series in exhibition games, with shuffled lineups, crappy blocking and receivers still learning the playbook.
RE: Biggest mistake Parcells ever made...  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/17/2019 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14447288 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...was his first big decision as head coach. Simms was one year removed from knee reconstruction, and still feeling his way back. Brunner outplayed him in preseason, and Parcells decided to go with the QB who looked sharper going into September. Nearly cost him his NFL coaching career.

Eli hasnít treated preseason as anything more than a tune-up for over a decade. The staff knows what he can and canít do. To the extent thereís a decision to be made, itís about Jones and his progress, not some silly competition based on a few series in exhibition games, with shuffled lineups, crappy blocking and receivers still learning the playbook.


On point post BBB.
Lets be honest ELI has come to camp every year  
TMS : 5/17/2019 1:21 pm : link
ready to go physically and mentally. Nobody works harder. Plus he is rarely hurt or out of shape. Thats why he will be in the hall when it is over. The fact that Jones is showing those characteristics is a big reason DG thought he was worth the sixth pick in the draft. MO
RE: One thing I wonder about with Jones  
TMS : 5/17/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14447162 jcn56 said:
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if we're truly going to entertain the 'open competition' theory - is just how much better he has to be than Eli to earn the nod opening day.

I personally don't think the competition is really open - unless Eli has significantly regressed, it's his job to lose. So if they exit camp with Jones having performed slightly better, I don't see there's any way he's getting snaps in week 1.

How big would the gap between the two have to be to give Jones a shot at starting wk1, given Eli's experience and reputation with the team?
. Doubt that has any chance of happening.
RE: One thing I wonder about with Jones  
giants#1 : 5/17/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14447162 jcn56 said:
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if we're truly going to entertain the 'open competition' theory - is just how much better he has to be than Eli to earn the nod opening day.

I personally don't think the competition is really open - unless Eli has significantly regressed, it's his job to lose. So if they exit camp with Jones having performed slightly better, I don't see there's any way he's getting snaps in week 1.

How big would the gap between the two have to be to give Jones a shot at starting wk1, given Eli's experience and reputation with the team?




IMO, there aren't enough camp/preseason snaps for Jones to earn the start over Eli. At best Jones will get a couple series with the 1s in each of the 2nd/3rd preseason games. Maybe if Jones leads them to TDs on every drive and Eli looks bad...
Engram said that about Daniel Jones?  
M.S. : 5/17/2019 1:36 pm : link

See if Engram gets a Christmas Card from the Manning family.

(:-)
Hopefully Engram picks  
Metnut : 5/17/2019 1:39 pm : link
up the offense next.
RE: Hopefully Engram picks  
GothamGiants : 5/17/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14447379 Metnut said:
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up the offense next.


Great point. Not like Engram was 1 of the most improved players in the league, and graded as 2nd best TE, in the 2nd half of the season once healthy
Engram ... is good - ( New Window )
Engram sending a message that  
Jimmy Googs : 5/17/2019 1:45 pm : link
he wants Jones in there sooner vs later...
Captain PFF at it again...  
Greg from LI : 5/17/2019 1:47 pm : link
Maybe he's actually Chris Collinsworth?
RE: Engram sending a message that  
GothamGiants : 5/17/2019 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14447397 Jimmy Googs said:
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he wants Jones in there sooner vs later...


The screams will only get louder after Jones first scramble
RE: Captain PFF at it again...  
GothamGiants : 5/17/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14447404 Greg from LI said:
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Maybe he's actually Chris Collinsworth?


I also enjoyed the 70+ yards a game he put up in December and direct observations I made to form my own original thoughts

Half day at school today? Missed you, feel free to contribute something to the conversation. Youíve got the internet name calling down pat. Happy Friday!
I'm hoping Jones performs excellent. And I'm sure he can learn the  
Blue21 : 5/17/2019 1:59 pm : link
the offense. I'm really rooting for him. But reading opposing defenses is the trick.
Would you be happy if Jones turns out to be exactly like Eli ?  
Spider56 : 5/17/2019 1:59 pm : link
I would ... especially if they continue to rebuild the OL in the style DG wants. .... let him sit for a year and be ready to go in 2020.
It's truly remarkable how often your "original thoughts"...  
Greg from LI : 5/17/2019 2:02 pm : link
...precisely mirror PFF.
RE: RE: Engram sending a message that  
Jimmy Googs : 5/17/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14447407 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14447397 Jimmy Googs said:


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he wants Jones in there sooner vs later...



The screams will only get louder after Jones first scramble


Because he will get hit?
RE: RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
Leg of Theismann : 5/17/2019 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14447079 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14447077 Klaatu said:


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Man, show some class.



He's a Simo dupe - why waste your time?



What is a Simo dupe btw?
RE: Would you be happy if Jones turns out to be exactly like Eli ?  
Leg of Theismann : 5/17/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14447430 Spider56 said:
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I would ... especially if they continue to rebuild the OL in the style DG wants. .... let him sit for a year and be ready to go in 2020.


I think he'll be similar to Eli, but won't make *quite as many* great throws downfield as we saw from Eli in his prime. That said, he will make more plays with his legs than Eli ever did, so that will help.
RE: Lets be honest ELI has come to camp every year  
Leg of Theismann : 5/17/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14447332 TMS said:
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ready to go physically and mentally. Nobody works harder. Plus he is rarely hurt or out of shape. Thats why he will be in the hall when it is over. The fact that Jones is showing those characteristics is a big reason DG thought he was worth the sixth pick in the draft. MO


I honestly don't understand how anyone thinks Eli doesn't get in the Hall SOMEDAY. He's top 10 in like every all-time passing category and has 2 SB MVPs against the greatest sports dynasty of all-time. Joe freakin' Namath is in the Hall for chrissakes.
Offseason compliments.  
81_Great_Dane : 5/17/2019 2:27 pm : link
Jonas Seawright was virtually unblockable, right?

Nice to hear this stuff but let's not get too excited about it either way.
RE: RE: Hopefully Engram picks  
Metnut : 5/17/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14447394 GothamGiants said:
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In comment 14447379 Metnut said:


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up the offense next.



Great point. Not like Engram was 1 of the most improved players in the league, and graded as 2nd best TE, in the 2nd half of the season once healthy Engram ... is good - ( New Window )


Hey, thanks for posting! I hadn't seen that before.

I'm generally pessimistic on the state of the team, but good to see some data showing Engram might be underrated. Thanks!
RE: I can't recall the exact quote off-hand  
Reale01 : 5/17/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14447178 Bill L said:
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but it was something like 'It's Eli's job to keep Jones on the bench".

SO, not an open competition but it's not entrenching Eli either.


The exact quote said it was ELis job to "win games and keep Jones on the bench".

My take is that Eli is QB if we are winning and Jones comes into the picture if things go south. Not a competition.
RE: Captain PFF at it again...  
adamg : 5/17/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14447404 Greg from LI said:
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Maybe he's actually Chris Collinsworth?


For how frequently he runs his mouth, Tony Romo might be the better comp.
RE: RE: I can't recall the exact quote off-hand  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14447600 Reale01 said:
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In comment 14447178 Bill L said:


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but it was something like 'It's Eli's job to keep Jones on the bench".

SO, not an open competition but it's not entrenching Eli either.



The exact quote said it was ELis job to "win games and keep Jones on the bench".

My take is that Eli is QB if we are winning and Jones comes into the picture if things go south. Not a competition.


Yes , this is correct.
RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
SteelGiant : 5/17/2019 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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About Fatty Haskins.


Love it, I will jump on board, Haskin-Robbins
RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
eric2425ny : 5/17/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14447766 SteelGiant said:
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In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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About Fatty Haskins.



Love it, I will jump on board, Haskin-Robbins


I have to admit, I laughed at this.
RE: RE: Wonder if you can find similar things being said  
BMac : 5/17/2019 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14447011 Giantology said:
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In comment 14446998 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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About Fatty Haskins.



I'm sure you quite svelte yourself, dickhead.


Imagine this dickhead calling someone else a dickhead. The pot calling the kettle black.
Jones  
Percy : 5/17/2019 9:58 pm : link
Is our next QB. Live with it. Hopefully win with it.
Cleanup in BBI aisle three  
Bluesbreaker : 5/18/2019 7:52 pm : link
Tiki Torches and pitchforks Coach Red Beaulieu
in need of medical assistance accused of name
calling on opposing QB calling him Fatty OMG its
the PC mob again ! How dare he !!!!
RE: Didnít they always say this crap about the new QBís?  
GeofromNJ : 5/19/2019 1:03 am : link
In comment 14447039 giantsFC said:
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I bet Bill Gates can also learn a playbook really fast

I don't recall Engram saying this about Webb in 2017 or Lauletta in 2018.
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