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OBJ v. Colin Cowherd

Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 10:32 am
I don’t even know who to side with in this feud. Loved OBJ but he seems like a really sensitive guy. When you start letting the goofy talking heads like Cowherd rattle you, then you are letting distractions really hinder your life.
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I'd side with Lucifer against Colin Cowherd  
Greg from LI : 5/17/2019 10:34 am : link
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Yeah Cowherd  
Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 10:36 am : link
is actually the worst. Problem for the Browns is that he is getting to Beckham.
hahaha....  
Britt in VA : 5/17/2019 10:36 am : link
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Odell Beckham Jr
@obj
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NOWWWW UVE GONE TOOOO FAR.... bro I understand nobody listens to ur show but stop using my name to get clout bro, I let u say and do whatever u want but uve gone to far now. So heres the attention U wanted and desperately needed i see. I had respect for u after talkin on the ph.


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Odell Beckham Jr
@obj
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This is the shxt I be talkin bout wit the bold tv people who see u in person and have completely different convos 😂😂. Alllll of those moments got better ratings and attention than any of ur shows ever. And that’s not somethin im braggin about cause im not “proud” of those.


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Odell Beckham Jr
@obj
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But I honestly I really hate to even give u this spotlight. Just put some respect on my name as ur talkin bout me and my family to booost ur TV shows and ratings. If I was GREAT then u and others wouldn’t talk about me this much. I DONT hear much talk bout anybody else at All.


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Odell Beckham Jr
@obj
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Next time I have media, ima make sure I put an end to all of this. Just don’t be putting shxt out on social media u WOULD NOT say to my face or in person ... u really scary😭😭


You hit it on the head  
Pork Chop : 5/17/2019 10:36 am : link
OBJ seems really sensitive to this stuff. If he didn't respond at all, it would be dead and no one would even realize Cowherd went off on him.

But maybe that's what Odell wants. No publicity is bad publicity I guess.
This is what got him fired up.  
Britt in VA : 5/17/2019 10:37 am : link
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Baker Mayfield comes to his defense.....  
Britt in VA : 5/17/2019 10:38 am : link
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Baker Mayfield
@bakermayfield
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Replying to
@TheHerd
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@ColinCowherd
Once again, you’re a clown.... now I know you’re just trying to get me fired up. “Most memorable moments”... he’s 26 and his greatest moments are ahead of him. You forget the kids and people he inspires. That goes much further than football...
This is kind of what sets most of the greats apart though...  
Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 10:43 am : link
Every star player has been criticized. The greats let stories fall by the wayside and die. OBJ keeps the drama alive, and as great as he can be, these distractions linger and stick around. That is fact is undeniable.
#1 = The Catch, #2 = Traded to the Brows  
ZogZerg : 5/17/2019 10:44 am : link
#3-#10 = a bunch of nonsense.
Brutal stuff.

Almost like he is trying to piss off OBJ.
I'm not a Cowherd fan,  
Beezer : 5/17/2019 10:44 am : link
but how can you really argue with his list of 10 OBJ moments (other than to shuffle them a bit)?

Hysterical that Baker Mayfield is also involved in the Twitter war.

Say what you will about Gettleman. But I'm really happy the guys going at it on social media are gone. I think it's really an interesting component of building a football team. Some will disagree, saying it matters not at all ... but I guess we'll see.

I don't believe the Giants are ready to run the table. Or even be a strong playoff team. But maybe, just maybe, a different level of professionalism could emerge and make a difference.
The next..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/17/2019 10:44 am : link
turn in this thread will probably revolve around Eli never coming to OBJ's defense by calling people clowns!
I would think  
Alex_Webster : 5/17/2019 10:46 am : link
that video would generate self reflection. Just sayin
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/17/2019 10:47 am : link
Coaches are fond of saying, "Nothing good ever happens after midnight."

They should also add, "Nothing good ever happens from posting on Twitter."
RE: The next..  
Britt in VA : 5/17/2019 10:47 am : link
In comment 14447020 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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turn in this thread will probably revolve around Eli never coming to OBJ's defense by calling people clowns!


Ha, I was just thinking that....

"See?! See?!"
RE: You hit it on the head  
Milton : 5/17/2019 10:47 am : link
In comment 14447005 Pork Chop said:
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OBJ seems really sensitive to this stuff.

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RE: ...  
Britt in VA : 5/17/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14447029 Eric from BBI said:
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Coaches are fond of saying, "Nothing good ever happens after midnight."

They should also add, "Nothing good ever happens from posting on Twitter."


Pretty sure they have added that.
I know it's early ...  
Beezer : 5/17/2019 10:49 am : link
but are the Browns considered a favorite to win that division? I can't imagine it, even with their upgrades.
I was one of the OBJ  
Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 10:49 am : link
defenders hopping from thread to thread in his defense even after he was traded. But, he has gotten off to such a nutty start with Cleveland, that at this point you have to realize shit like this is never going away. And, now instead of helping with chemistry on his new team, he’s showing up when he feels like it and dragging leader Baker Mayfield into stupid twitter beefs. Bizarre.
I still think Beckham is calculated with this stuff  
UConn4523 : 5/17/2019 10:50 am : link
more than he is "crazy". He knows this is good publicity for himself, no doubt in my mind.

Cowherd sucks.
Some good things happen on social media  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 10:50 am : link
If you or anyone you know follows Odell Beckham Jr. on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook, send him a request for payment. (I’m kidding, of course.)

Brands look to partner with influencers. They would rather have a celebrity or in industry terms an 'influencer' than just a good singer or in this case a good football player. That is why you deserve some credit for Beckham's payday.

Beckham has more than 8.3 million Instagram followers, 2.3 million Twitter followers and 1.3 million Facebook followers. Compare that to Antonio Brown’s 1.8 million Instagram followers, 833,000 Twitter followers and 677,800 Facebook followers. Both Beckham and Brown are sensational talents, but the message is clear. Brands will pay for sizzle and celebrity because they know consumers will too.

Go ahead and give yourselves a round of applause. Nike just paid Odell Beckham Jr. more than his NFL salary… because of you.
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I don't know, the old fart in me says he should knock it off  
jcn56 : 5/17/2019 10:50 am : link
but that old fart doesn't understand how people make money by posting stupid videos of themselves on YouTube and what having millions of Twitter or Instagram followers means for your pocket.

Maybe there's some method to OBJ's madness, beyond just being thin skinned.
Ha, and ron's in with a post that I should have seen first  
jcn56 : 5/17/2019 10:51 am : link
:-)
UCONN  
Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 10:51 am : link
If thats true, good for him, but potentially shitty for whatever team he is on.
RE: I still think Beckham is calculated with this stuff  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/17/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14447040 UConn4523 said:
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more than he is "crazy". He knows this is good publicity for himself, no doubt in my mind.

Cowherd sucks.


I argued THIS for years. But Odell has his big second contract. If he wants another, he's got to end this stuff or teams will start to believe - right or wrong - that he does have an attitude problem.
RE: I know it's early ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/17/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14447035 Beezer said:
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but are the Browns considered a favorite to win that division? I can't imagine it, even with their upgrades.


They had one of their draft picks predicting Super Bowl.

I think Odell said the goal is become the next dynasty, like the Patriots.

That rookie coach is in a tough, tough spot.
RE: UCONN  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14447046 Keaton028 said:
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If thats true, good for him, but potentially shitty for whatever team he is on.


only if the team cares

The patriots had a fucking federal case over deflated balls and a sociopath murderer on their team and didn't miss a beat.

Any team that loses because they couldn't handle some tweets was never going to win anyway.


RE: Some good things happen on social media  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/17/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14447041 ron mexico said:
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If you or anyone you know follows Odell Beckham Jr. on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook, send him a request for payment. (I’m kidding, of course.)

Brands look to partner with influencers. They would rather have a celebrity or in industry terms an 'influencer' than just a good singer or in this case a good football player. That is why you deserve some credit for Beckham's payday.

Beckham has more than 8.3 million Instagram followers, 2.3 million Twitter followers and 1.3 million Facebook followers. Compare that to Antonio Brown’s 1.8 million Instagram followers, 833,000 Twitter followers and 677,800 Facebook followers. Both Beckham and Brown are sensational talents, but the message is clear. Brands will pay for sizzle and celebrity because they know consumers will too.

Go ahead and give yourselves a round of applause. Nike just paid Odell Beckham Jr. more than his NFL salary… because of you. Nike Paid Odell Beckham Jr. A Lot Of Money Because Of You - ( New Window )


And THIS is what MAY be driving his behavior. If so, it appears Gettleman made the right move.
Ron  
Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 10:56 am : link
Good point, but the Pats had been a dynasty at that point. Cleveland hasn’t really done shit yet, and is a new team looking for an identity.
Well..  
darren in pdx : 5/17/2019 10:57 am : link
He’s kind of right..OBJ is going to be mostly remembered for a bunch of non-sense unless he starts winning and stops creating drama around himself.
RE: I was one of the OBJ  
BigBluDawg : 5/17/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14447036 Keaton028 said:
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defenders hopping from thread to thread in his defense even after he was traded. But, he has gotten off to such a nutty start with Cleveland, that at this point you have to realize shit like this is never going away. And, now instead of helping with chemistry on his new team, he’s showing up when he feels like it and dragging leader Baker Mayfield into stupid twitter beefs. Bizarre.


Pretty sure Mayfield has been beefing with Colin on twitter since last season, wouldn’t shock me if Colin purposely wanted to add OBJ into the drama for ratings.
RE: I'm not a Cowherd fan,  
Tesla : 5/17/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14447019 Beezer said:
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but how can you really argue with his list of 10 OBJ moments (other than to shuffle them a bit)?



Really? The game winning catch in a huge game vs. Dallas in 2016 wasn't a top 10 moment? The game winning TD vs. Ravens not a top 10 moment?

How can you consider yourself a Giants fan and not think OBJ has had some electing on the field moments for this team?
I was not a fan of trading OBJ, as he was the most exciting  
Tom in NY : 5/17/2019 11:00 am : link
Offensive player in my lifetime. That said, what I am watching now is exactly what the OBJ detractors have been pointing out for the past few years, which is the complete distraction he can become. A young team, and coach can become consumed by this...and although this may be minor at the moment, it may well be the first sign we look back upon that showed the trainwreck that develops.

They have their hands full in CLleveland right now, and a prick like Cowherd would love nothing more than to drag this out all season long.
I was shocked  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 5/17/2019 11:02 am : link
and a little nervous about trading OBJ, but I'm starting to feel relieved that Gettleman jettisoned Beckham and Collins.

Let's be honest here, Beckham hasn't won a damn thing. He is a tremendous talent, but I don't think he will ever get out of his own way and become a winner. He has no idea how to be a professional.

Goodbye to the loudmouths. Hopefully we are building a winning culture. I have a feeling the Browns and Skins will continue to dwell in the basement.
RE: RE: I still think Beckham is calculated with this stuff  
UConn4523 : 5/17/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14447047 Eric from BBI said:
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more than he is "crazy". He knows this is good publicity for himself, no doubt in my mind.

Cowherd sucks.



I argued THIS for years. But Odell has his big second contract. If he wants another, he's got to end this stuff or teams will start to believe - right or wrong - that he does have an attitude problem.


Wouldn't surprise me at all if he moves on from football by the end of this contract. He knows how valuable he is in the media, and kids love him. His brand will work outside of football, IMO.

And if this is really all it is than some team will pay him. Guy like Beckham breathe a sigh of relief every-time some other player gets caught breaking the law.
If he went to all 3 days  
GiantGrit : 5/17/2019 11:06 am : link
of OTA's, this wouldn't be a thing right now. And he knew that. And i don't want to hear how its voluntary because we all know there were more positives than negatives to attending all three days.
RE: RE: I'm not a Cowherd fan,  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 5/17/2019 11:06 am : link
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How can you consider yourself a Giants fan and not think OBJ has had some electing on the field moments for this team?


He had some moments, but that's it. He had a couple great highlights and a losing record.

I've never been a Beckham basher, I don't have any I'll will toward the kid, but he is a knucklehead. He is not a winner.
*ill will  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 5/17/2019 11:07 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: I still think Beckham is calculated with this stuff  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14447066 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14447047 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14447040 UConn4523 said:


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more than he is "crazy". He knows this is good publicity for himself, no doubt in my mind.

Cowherd sucks.



I argued THIS for years. But Odell has his big second contract. If he wants another, he's got to end this stuff or teams will start to believe - right or wrong - that he does have an attitude problem.



Wouldn't surprise me at all if he moves on from football by the end of this contract. He knows how valuable he is in the media, and kids love him. His brand will work outside of football, IMO.

And if this is really all it is than some team will pay him. Guy like Beckham breathe a sigh of relief every-time some other player gets caught breaking the law.


Not really, no one cares about guys breaking the law, but OBJ puts some words out there on social media and its end times.

RE: I was one of the OBJ  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/17/2019 11:20 am : link
In comment 14447036 Keaton028 said:
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defenders hopping from thread to thread in his defense even after he was traded. But, he has gotten off to such a nutty start with Cleveland, that at this point you have to realize shit like this is never going away. And, now instead of helping with chemistry on his new team, he’s showing up when he feels like it and dragging leader Baker Mayfield into stupid twitter beefs. Bizarre.

Kitchen + Beckham = complete asshat hilarious disaster

Mayfield was the ? Does he have IT and the leadership to bitch out OBJ on national TV like Drees/Shockey and keep things under control or is he part of the volatile mix. Think we are starting to see.
RE: RE: RE: I still think Beckham is calculated with this stuff  
giants#1 : 5/17/2019 11:21 am : link
In comment 14447066 UConn4523 said:
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Wouldn't surprise me at all if he moves on from football by the end of this contract. He knows how valuable he is in the media, and kids love him. His brand will work outside of football, IMO.

And if this is really all it is than some team will pay him. Guy like Beckham breathe a sigh of relief every-time some other player gets caught breaking the law.


I think that's the biggest "risk" with him at this point. Well, that and him making more "business decisions" knowing how much he can make outside of the NFL. Granted, I don't think him giving himself up in October games instead of fighting for a couple extra yards is a big deal (the Bears play is another story).

If he has another 2-3 years filled with injuries, does he retire early? Gotta imagine he'd start contemplating it especially if he has other avenues of significant income.
RE: RE: I was one of the OBJ  
giants#1 : 5/17/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14447087 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14447036 Keaton028 said:


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defenders hopping from thread to thread in his defense even after he was traded. But, he has gotten off to such a nutty start with Cleveland, that at this point you have to realize shit like this is never going away. And, now instead of helping with chemistry on his new team, he’s showing up when he feels like it and dragging leader Baker Mayfield into stupid twitter beefs. Bizarre.


Kitchen + Beckham = complete asshat hilarious disaster

Mayfield was the ? Does he have IT and the leadership to bitch out OBJ on national TV like Drees/Shockey and keep things under control or is he part of the volatile mix. Think we are starting to see.


WTF does this mean?
Ron  
Keaton028 : 5/17/2019 11:23 am : link
Normally I’d argue the same points. I did when he was on the Giants. But, it just seems odd to me that Beckham has already gotten off to a strange start with his brand new team, and I think this kind of stuff may feed into it. I don’t know. If I’m a Browns fan who has gone through years of misery, I know I don’t really want to see our new QB and star wideout getting bent out of shape on Twitter before we’ve even won a game.
Most of these players make  
rebel yell : 5/17/2019 11:25 am : link
more in endorsements and as social media "influencers" than from playing football. Why wouldn't he want to keep the drama going? There's no such thing as "bad" publicity. He probably has a group of advisors tweeting for him. Probably isn't even him. And it works the same way for Cowherd. If you don't understand this--you're living in another world. It's the same for politics, Hollywood, etc.
There is a chip missing there  
BillyM : 5/17/2019 11:26 am : link
I do think he's a good kid, raised well and has a big heart. He has enormous talent and is in his prime. That won't last long though. 3-5 more years.

But, there is some weird Millenial sensitivity and an entitlement aspect there that is hard to overcome, if you are a young coach trying to put your stamp on a locker room.

I wish him well. But good luck keeping that personality and sensitivity in check. He seems to relish in the noise. To me, he's not a leader of men. Saquon Barkley is a leader of men.
RE: RE: RE: I was one of the OBJ  
arcarsenal : 5/17/2019 11:26 am : link
In comment 14447095 giants#1 said:
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In comment 14447087 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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In comment 14447036 Keaton028 said:


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defenders hopping from thread to thread in his defense even after he was traded. But, he has gotten off to such a nutty start with Cleveland, that at this point you have to realize shit like this is never going away. And, now instead of helping with chemistry on his new team, he’s showing up when he feels like it and dragging leader Baker Mayfield into stupid twitter beefs. Bizarre.


Kitchen + Beckham = complete asshat hilarious disaster

Mayfield was the ? Does he have IT and the leadership to bitch out OBJ on national TV like Drees/Shockey and keep things under control or is he part of the volatile mix. Think we are starting to see.



WTF does this mean?


Denny being Denny. Mind boggling that he's just continues to parade around here dumping his shitty, incomprehensible takes all over the place on his 5th handle...

The life of a sad troll.
OBJs best comparison in my mind is Deon Sanders  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 11:28 am : link
very talented but polarizing. Some say me first type of guys.

He ended up with two rings

RE: I still think Beckham is calculated with this stuff  
Beezer : 5/17/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14447040 UConn4523 said:
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more than he is "crazy". He knows this is good publicity for himself, no doubt in my mind.

Cowherd sucks.


Again, I'm not a fan of Cowherd. But the vast majority of what we recall as "big moments" for OBJ have little to nothing to do with (a) winning football games, or (b) overall football talent.

When he was 22, 23, I was one saying he'd grow up a bit. Now? I think this is the guy.

What a physical talent! I'm just not a fan of the overall package.
RE: OBJs best comparison in my mind is Deon Sanders  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/17/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14447106 ron mexico said:
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very talented but polarizing. Some say me first type of guys.

He ended up with two rings


Perhaps, but OBJ hasn't even won a playoff game.
Cowherd is trash  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/17/2019 11:33 am : link
My most memorable Odell moment is when he put the team on his back in a must-win against the Ravens and ripped off two ridiculous long TDs.

He's a distraction, but people who say that he's the reason we lost so much the last few years are dumb.
RE: Cowherd is trash  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/17/2019 11:34 am : link
In comment 14447115 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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My most memorable Odell moment is when he put the team on his back in a must-win against the Ravens and ripped off two ridiculous long TDs.

He's a distraction, but people who say that he's the reason we lost so much the last few years are dumb.


Late in the 4th to win the game I might add.
RE: RE: OBJs best comparison in my mind is Deon Sanders  
ron mexico : 5/17/2019 11:34 am : link
In comment 14447110 Eric from BBI said:
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very talented but polarizing. Some say me first type of guys.

He ended up with two rings




Perhaps, but OBJ hasn't even won a playoff game.


Neither did Deon till he left Atlanta

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