LT Nate Solder having minor surgery

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Maybe they thought treatment/therapy would resolve the issue?

Maybe they didn't get a final diagnosis until recently?

It's not always convenient to just say take care of this surgically, and early offseason.

for the 2nd highest paid tackle in football

having said that, perhaps it's just one of those things he didn't notice until he got active on it. I can forgive athletes for not noticing every ache and pain at the end of the season, they are probably hurting everywhere and hoping for the best. Spring voluntary practices are where they sometimes figure out that this pain is different and isn't going away.

On the half-full side, this will give us an opportunity prior to camp to see what the initial backup plan at LT is. That's a pretty big question imo. Wheeler maybe, with Remmers at RT?

I mean in reality it's probably wheeler, but that's as good as a moist paper towel.

In comment 14447075 gtt350 said:

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No, just to piss you off.

Doctors don't want to cut people open unless all other avenues have been explored.

But with bone spurs, I wonder why they decided to wait.

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...for practicing Remmers with the first unit at right tackle while Wheeler mans left tackle in OTAs. It won't appear as obvious that they are handing him the starting job.

In comment 14447097 Dan in the Springs said:

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having said that, perhaps it's just one of those things he didn't notice until he got active on it. I can forgive athletes for not noticing every ache and pain at the end of the season, they are probably hurting everywhere and hoping for the best. Spring voluntary practices are where they sometimes figure out that this pain is different and isn't going away. On the half-full side, this will give us an opportunity prior to camp to see what the initial backup plan at LT is. That's a pretty big question imo. Wheeler maybe, with Remmers at RT?

Solder is a pro football player getting paid many millions per year. Besides being on actual vacation for a month after the season, and in fact even during that vacation, at least modestly, doesn't he work out 6 or 7 days per week, 52 weeks a year? How much of a "break" can these guys afford to take?

an ankle scoping is still a big deal in a man who makes his living with his lower extremities.
It should be fine, but there�s many a slip between �should� and �is�

Surgery on someone else.

That said, I've have bone spurs and when they act up I can barely walk. Good move to have them cleared up.

one of the players the Giants can ill afford to lose. Let's hope he's 100% at the start of camp.

In comment 14447157 since1925 said:

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Surgery on someone else. That said, I've have bone spurs and when they act up I can barely walk. Good move to have them cleared up.

I heard it can keep you out of the military......

He should have gotten this done months ago...imo.

In comment 14447193 Anakim said:

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In comment 14447157 since1925 said: Quote: Surgery on someone else. That said, I've have bone spurs and when they act up I can barely walk. Good move to have them cleared up. I heard it can keep you out of the military......

Good thing it can't keep you out of The White House.

be back for training camp.

But will miss the rest of the pre season mini camps and training.

In comment 14447193 Anakim said:

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In comment 14447157 since1925 said: Quote: Surgery on someone else. That said, I've have bone spurs and when they act up I can barely walk. Good move to have them cleared up. I heard it can keep you out of the military......

you got me - now everyone in the office wants to know what's so amusing about the work i am supposedly doing

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In comment 14447122 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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I mean in reality it's probably wheeler, but that's as good as a moist paper towel.

TTH, true re no true back-up--and I'm very far down the list of the rose-colored glasses inclined here--but I actually thought he looked better at LT, at least in PPro, because of his feet and agility. Who knows if he's put in any work in the weight room this off-season?

i wouldn't really call that minor. It's not career or season-ending, but it could very well affect him--not least in the other leg through compensation

The actual tweet says that he had surgery. That could've been in January, last week, or anytime in between.

Even 'minor' surgery I would think would keep him off his feet for 3-6 weeks.

does 'miss' mini-camp mean he won't attend or just that he won't be on the field taking reps? If it's just the latter, it shouldn't be a huge deal for a vet and he should still be able to get some film work in with the rest of his line mates.

he was garbage the first half of the season as well

will take a rehab period in the NFL. Not good news at a position of relative strength last year.

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Solder had the surgery yesterday. Offseason program ends June 13.

He�s solid. Chad Wheeler is the back up. Doesn�t hurt that he will get reps. Hopefully this isn�t an issue going into the regular season.

in jeopardy...

Almost walking normally now. Should be cleared to run in another five weeks. Solder should be able to do light stuff by the middle of July.

He HAD the surgery.

Key word in that paragraph was he had it done. He could have had it done earlier then everyone is thinking and just rehabbing it now.

I took this to mean the surgery was to clean out the area. Which means he should be healthy for training camp. This isnt a new injury unless I�m mistaken.

But this OL still scares the crap outta me

Next offseason, I really hope we make upgrades AND add some depth

Happy to see this. You never wanna see anyone go down but this is a golden opportunity for these young guys to get some burn and show if they have what we�re looking for in a left tackle

Big George will end up getting plenty of 1st team reps in place of Remmers at RT.

Hoping at least 1 of Evan Brown, O'Hagan and AA become a starter. Have a feeling Gettleman is going to find somebody.

...but the Giants haven't exactly put together a young unit that can lead the way for the next 7 - 10 years like they did down in Dallas.

Nate Solder is 31; Mike Remmers is 30; Kevin Zeitler is 29; and even the un-tried Jon Halapio is 28.

An OL heavy draft for us next year. He knows how old these guys are and the supply in college this year wasn't to his liking. It's just like CB, he signed a bunch of older middle of the age bracket vets to one year deals. Then we add Beal, Bethea, Peppers, Love, Baker and Ballentine. He's a cluster drafter it appears.

In comment 14447604 M.S. said:

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...but the Giants haven't exactly put together a young unit that can lead the way for the next 7 - 10 years like they did down in Dallas. Nate Solder is 31; Mike Remmers is 30; Kevin Zeitler is 29; and even the un-tried Jon Halapio is 28.

Certainly we need to fortify with young talent, but OL playing at a respectable to high level into their mid-30s is far from unusual

has to pick up a serviceable Vet OT

by the time it matters.

But yeah. This didn't grow overnight in the offseason. He could have had this done in January.

I know it's 'minor', but still not very comforting, especially with this OL.

In comment 14447134 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Doctors don't want to cut people open unless all other avenues have been explored. But with bone spurs, I wonder why they decided to wait.

This isn't true at all. Nowadays it is usually the first option especially in the offseason. People choose to try other methods to avoid surgeries. Most doctors don't try all other avenues first.

73 years old, just had arthroscopic hernia surgery three weeks ago. He has been playing golf for over a week. So I would expect a 30 year old can be back in less than 8 weeks.

In comment 14447615 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14447604 M.S. said: Quote: ...but the Giants haven't exactly put together a young unit that can lead the way for the next 7 - 10 years like they did down in Dallas. Nate Solder is 31; Mike Remmers is 30; Kevin Zeitler is 29; and even the un-tried Jon Halapio is 28. Certainly we need to fortify with young talent, but OL playing at a respectable to high level into their mid-30s is far from unusual

Agreed. Not to mention Remmers is a stopgap who I would wager will be replaced by a 23 year old draft pick next year. Having just a 5 year plan is an improvement over what we've been doing.

In comment 14447670 David B. said:

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by the time it matters. But yeah. This didn't grow overnight in the offseason. He could have had this done in January.

How the fuck do you know this? You think they intentionally waited because they wanted to screw themselves?

Giants fans suck.

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In comment 14447075 gtt350 said: Quote: . No, just to piss you off.

Him and Francessa. The Pope went off on him for this and it was borderline slander. Said here's a guy who just doesn't want to go to trading camp. Got his money and knows he's the starter so he put this off until now because he can. What is the team gonna do? He said if he was an owner no way guys would get away with this type of thing.

I couldn't believe how much he ripped him and was talking as if he knew it was an older injury that could've been taken care of and not a new injury. It might very well be an older injury but no way he would know that, or if Solder put it off to avoid training camp.

In comment 14447690 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14447134 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: Doctors don't want to cut people open unless all other avenues have been explored. But with bone spurs, I wonder why they decided to wait. This isn't true at all. Nowadays it is usually the first option especially in the offseason. People choose to try other methods to avoid surgeries. Most doctors don't try all other avenues first.

"First option" sort of surprising idea. Of course, it's not my ankle or way of earning a buck. Hope all is well and see no reason not to.

In comment 14447216 Klaatu said:

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In comment 14447193 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14447157 since1925 said: Quote: Surgery on someone else. That said, I've have bone spurs and when they act up I can barely walk. Good move to have them cleared up. I heard it can keep you out of the military...... Good thing it can't keep you out of The White House. Whats that have to do with football ???

In comment 14447780 Eman11 said:

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In comment 14447131 UConn4523 said: Quote: In comment 14447075 gtt350 said: Quote: . No, just to piss you off. Him and Francessa. The Pope went off on him for this and it was borderline slander. Said here's a guy who just doesn't want to go to trading camp. Got his money and knows he's the starter so he put this off until now because he can. What is the team gonna do? He said if he was an owner no way guys would get away with this type of thing. I couldn't believe how much he ripped him and was talking as if he knew it was an older injury that could've been taken care of and not a new injury. It might very well be an older injury but no way he would know that, or if Solder put it off to avoid training camp.

Yes, the logic of any sane person to get out of training camp, to endure pain until the last possible moment to have surgery done. That makes perfect sense.

He�ll start the season healed up and sans bone spurs. Meantime in OTAs the seconds get valuable time with the starters.
We should be happy.

pretty happy...

from surgery or injury. (I don't think Manny in CA needs to worry about Eli having a career year, although everyone but Manny already knew that.)

In comment 14447613 Joey in VA said:

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An OL heavy draft for us next year. He knows how old these guys are and the supply in college this year wasn't to his liking. It's just like CB, he signed a bunch of older middle of the age bracket vets to one year deals. Then we add Beal, Bethea, Peppers, Love, Baker and Ballentine. He's a cluster drafter it appears.

I wouldn�t say that. Our secondary or lack there of was a unique situation. Riley, Webb, Apple,Ladler, deayon, Lippett all obviously underwhelmed. The secondary needed a makeover and only way to successfully do that in one offseason is to stock pile via the draft/free agency.

To add to this our offensive line is not in shambles. We have both guards signed. Left tackle signed. Basically your talking about right tackle IF halapio works out or pulley.

Lippett offers. but fans are ripping him off of one game played last year.

Have to believe they did, DG has been pretty thorough in his planning. It may not be as big a deal as we are assuming if they anticipated it. MO.

In comment 14448137 Tuckrule said:

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To add to this our offensive line is not in shambles. We have both guards signed. Left tackle signed. Basically your talking about right tackle IF halapio works out or pulley.

No, it's not in shambles, but it's middle-of-the-pack at best, with little or no quality depth backing up the starters. We know Remmers is only signed for one year, but you also have to wonder just how long we can depend on Solder? Ditto for Zeitler, who will be 30 next year. Sure, some O-Linemen play well into their 30's, but others don't, and I'd hate to see the Giants go through what they did in 2012-2013. And "if" Halapio or Pulley work out? Brother, that's a big "if."

The issue with Solder isn't a bone spur getting plucked out 4 months from the opener.

He's going to be the same reliable, unexceptional, now very expensive tackle he's been his whole career.

The issue is finding someone to groom and be at the ready when a guy in his 9th, 10th, and 11th year in the league and making 17-18M dollars, falls off the cliff.

In comment 14448241 christian said:

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The issue with Solder isn't a bone spur getting plucked out 4 months from the opener. He's going to be the same reliable, unexceptional, now very expensive tackle he's been his whole career. The issue is finding someone to groom and be at the ready when a guy in his 9th, 10th, and 11th year in the league and making 17-18M dollars, falls off the cliff.

. True enough and think nobody is more aware of that than DG and Abrams. We have cap space next year and do not have to go into hock for a QB either.

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In comment 14448241 christian said: Quote: The issue with Solder isn't a bone spur getting plucked out 4 months from the opener. He's going to be the same reliable, unexceptional, now very expensive tackle he's been his whole career. The issue is finding someone to groom and be at the ready when a guy in his 9th, 10th, and 11th year in the league and making 17-18M dollars, falls off the cliff. . True enough and think nobody is more aware of that than DG and Abrams. We have cap space next year and do not have to go into hock for a QB either.

It's notable Gettleman has picked 4 DTs and 1 OT over the last 2 years.

There's a steady pool of talent at all stages on the d-line, it'd be nice if there was the same on the o-line.

My big prediction is Wheeler would be a much better LT that RT if called on.

Pretty much what I expected panties in a bunch twats
Better than a stool pusher and a Trannie ....

In comment 14447193 Anakim said:

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In comment 14447157 since1925 said: Quote: Surgery on someone else. That said, I've have bone spurs and when they act up I can barely walk. Good move to have them cleared up. I heard it can keep you out of the military......

Bone spurs are so serious that even if you don't actually have them, they can keep you out of the military.