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NFT: NY Rangers News - John Davidson Coming Home!

soz915 : 5/17/2019 1:25 pm
The Athletic is reporting John Davidson has resigned and is expected to be named the new President of the Rangers. From Rick Carpinello on Twitter: "Hearing that #CBJ will be announcing John Davidson's resignation as president shortly. Davidson will then in short order be named president of the Rangers. #NYR".

Link: https://twitter.com/RickCarpiniello/status/1129432350264311818

Here is The Athletic article with more info, if you subscribe: https://theathletic.com/983035/2019/05/17/john-davidson-is-leaving-the-blue-jackets-to-return-to-the-new-york-rangers/

Columbus has confirmed his resignation: https://cbj.co/davidson051719

J.D. is coming home and hopefully bringing Panarin with him!
Schoenfeld also stepped down  
JonC : 5/17/2019 1:29 pm : link
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Jeff Gorton  
Pep22 : 5/17/2019 1:30 pm : link
would report to JD in this scenario?
RE: Schoenfeld also stepped down  
Greg from LI : 5/17/2019 1:30 pm : link
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Thank God
J.D. one of my all time favorites!  
x meadowlander : 5/17/2019 1:30 pm : link
Love this!
I absolutely love this move...  
rnargi : 5/17/2019 1:34 pm : link
...I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Rangers this offseason. so far.
oooooooooh baby!!!!  
ShockNRoll : 5/17/2019 1:37 pm : link
Bring Panarin with you JD!
RE: I absolutely love this move...  
ShockNRoll : 5/17/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14447367 rnargi said:
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...I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Rangers this offseason. so far.


This rebuild has been outstanding, seems everything the Rangers have done has been golden, with a few exceptions (Spooner and Namestnikov extensions, Skjei long term contract still a question mark, initial McQuaid trade). This team is so loaded with young talent, if even half of them pan out, the Rangers are going to be stacked within 3-4 years. A lot of people don't want Panarin because of the price tag, and now presumably because Kakko will be the face of the franchise going forward, but thinking about having a top 9 of Mika, Kreider, Panarin, Kakko, Chytil, Buchnevich, Kravtsov, Strome, Namestnikov is exciting. You need superstars to win in this league, Mika, Panarin, and Kakko could be a great group to build around.
He did well in St. Loo and Columbus  
Anakim : 5/17/2019 1:58 pm : link
So hoping for the best.

I bet this is Gordie Clark's last draft as well
is gordie retiring?  
Torrag : 5/17/2019 2:06 pm : link
I think he's drafted very well, hate to lose him.
I grew up across the street from JD  
CMicks3110 : 5/17/2019 2:08 pm : link
was friends with his daughters. He took me on his motorcycle when I was 7 or 8 back in the early 90s. Really good guy. Great Family.
RE: is gordie retiring?  
Anakim : 5/17/2019 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14447443 Torrag said:
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I think he's drafted very well, hate to lose him.


Not necessarily, but he and Sather are bosom buddies. Sather handpicked him for the job in 2002.
It's official  
Anakim : 5/17/2019 3:06 pm : link
Rangers just announced it
RE: is gordie retiring?  
Lowell : 5/17/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14447443 Torrag said:
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I think he's drafted very well, hate to lose him.


Clark has not done a good job. The only second round pick that worked out was Stepan. The only pick that's been decent after the third round has been Fast.
RE: RE: is gordie retiring?  
Anakim : 5/17/2019 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14447544 Lowell said:
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I think he's drafted very well, hate to lose him.



Clark has not done a good job. The only second round pick that worked out was Stepan. The only pick that's been decent after the third round has been Fast.


He was hired in 2002, so you're neglecting to mention guys like Dubinsky, Callahan, Hagelin...
RE: RE: RE: is gordie retiring?  
Lowell : 5/17/2019 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14447551 Anakim said:
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I think he's drafted very well, hate to lose him.



Clark has not done a good job. The only second round pick that worked out was Stepan. The only pick that's been decent after the third round has been Fast.



He was hired in 2002, so you're neglecting to mention guys like Dubinsky, Callahan, Hagelin...


From Wikapedia: As the man in charge of the New York Rangers scouting and draft for the last eleven ... Let's take a look at the eight years from 2008 to 2015.

He didn't draft
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Anakim : 5/17/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14447556 Lowell said:
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I think he's drafted very well, hate to lose him.



Clark has not done a good job. The only second round pick that worked out was Stepan. The only pick that's been decent after the third round has been Fast.



He was hired in 2002, so you're neglecting to mention guys like Dubinsky, Callahan, Hagelin...



From Wikapedia: As the man in charge of the New York Rangers scouting and draft for the last eleven ... Let's take a look at the eight years from 2008 to 2015.

He didn't draft


Yeah, you're right. He's been with the team since 2002 but has been the Scouting Director since 2007 when he replaced Don Maloney.
'Clark has not done a good job'...  
Torrag : 5/17/2019 3:41 pm : link
We'll disagree on that one.
Looking it over, Lowell is right  
Anakim : 5/17/2019 3:44 pm : link
Post-first round, Gordie has only hit on Stepan, Fast, Buchnevich and Duclair.
RE: Looking it over, Lowell is right  
Lowell : 5/17/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14447569 Anakim said:
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Post-first round, Gordie has only hit on Stepan, Fast, Buchnevich and Duclair.

Clark's inability to draft decent players in the later rounds is the reason the Rangers have a lousy fourth line year after year. Look at the Bruins and Lightning. They get excellent grinders in the later rounds so they have impactful fourth lines.
They've also traded away a lot of  
Phil in LA : 5/17/2019 3:54 pm : link
1's and 2's while Clark has been in charge of the draft.
RE: Looking it over, Lowell is right  
pjcas18 : 5/17/2019 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14447569 Anakim said:
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Post-first round, Gordie has only hit on Stepan, Fast, Buchnevich and Duclair.


Not defending Clark or not, don't know his role, but this is the NHL, check out most teams draft records. Lightning are really the only exception I see consistently get talent post 1st round.

The Kucherov's of the world are few and far between, most NHL talent is from the 1st round.

since 2007

Who are the Penguins post-1st round gems? Jake Muzzin, Brian Rust, Matt Murray, Jake Guentzel

Who are the Capital post-1st round gems? Holtby & Orlov Maybe Grubbauer

Some teams may have a player or two more than the Rangers, some a player or two less, but it's not really that common.

Miss your first round picks is where you get in trouble.
Best of luck to JD and the Rangers  
arniefez : 5/17/2019 4:06 pm : link
He was a favorite of mine when he played and fun to listen to as announcer.
This study used 200 games played  
pjcas18 : 5/17/2019 4:07 pm : link
as "an NHL career" no importance placed on quality, simply games played as a measure. This is saying that from 2000 - 2009 only 44% of the players selected in the 2nd round even played 200 NHL games (in the second quote).

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Success Rate of First-Round Draft Picks

Of course, not all draft picks are created equal. The guys picked in the first round are a cut above the rest.

Of the 494 career players drafted in the 1990s, 160 were selected in the first round.
Of those 160 career players, over half have played more than 500 NHL games.
Among the older players (those drafted from 1990 to 1994), six first-round picks had made it to 1,000 games. Another couple of dozen were still active in 2007 and within reach of 1,000.
Based on the 1990s sample, a first-round draft pick has a 63 percent chance of being a career player.

Results can vary widely from year to year.

The 1993 NHL draft produced 22 career players from 26 first-round picks.
In 1999, less than half of the first-round selections went on to become career players (12 out of 28).

Beyond the First Round

When you look at players drafted in later rounds, the NHL dream begins to fade in a hurry.

From 1990 to 1999, about a quarter of the players selected in the second round turned into NHL career players.
Those drafted in the third round and beyond are really up against it. From over 2,000 players selected in the third round and beyond during the 1990s, just 261 made it as NHL career players. That's about 12 percent.




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... Another Analysis With Similar Results

Canada's The Sports Network (TSN) did a similar analysis with similar results, looking at draft picks from 2000 to 2009. Based on that analysis, TSN concluded that 80 percent of first-round picks become at least low-level NHL players, while 44 percent of those players selected in the second round make the NHL a career. Just 30 percent of third-round picks become NHL players, and the percentages continue to drop in the later rounds....

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Welcome  
Dirt1 : 5/17/2019 4:25 pm : link
aboard!
Welcome home JD!!!  
TheMick7 : 5/17/2019 6:13 pm : link
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Should also be interesting to see  
Jay in Toronto : 5/17/2019 6:26 pm : link
what happens in Hartford and with Shoenfeld's position.

Not sure if his role, but I also hope there is an upgrade over Ruff.
Tangential  
Jay in Toronto : 5/17/2019 6:31 pm : link
Skje is keep[in a diary on nhl.com.

Here is is on the Finland game

"Playing against Finland, we obviously got a good look at Kaapo Kakko. He's a special player. He definitely has that "it" factor you're looking for in a high-end pick and he hangs onto pucks really well. He was a stud."
How Can Anyone  
Percy : 5/17/2019 8:37 pm : link
Really be preferred over Kakko?
RE: How Can Anyone  
Vanzetti : 5/17/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14447807 Percy said:
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Have you seen Hughes skate? The way he moves in traffic. Franchise player for sure. Kakko might be too
Yegor Rykov is now coming over, as he just signed  
Anakim : 5/18/2019 10:55 am : link
So all three Russians have signed and are coming to New York.

YUUUUUUUUGE
Nice!  
yatqb : 5/18/2019 1:27 pm : link
Now we need to get rid of a few of our defensemen.
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Jim in Fairfax : 5/18/2019 1:51 pm : link
yatqb  
XBRONX : 5/18/2019 2:04 pm : link
Who would you like to see on D next year? Who needs to go?
I could happily see Stahl, Shattenkirk and perhaps Smith going,  
yatqb : 5/18/2019 3:17 pm : link
although I kinda like Smith as an occasional 4th liner up front.

What about you?
Time to  
XBRONX : 5/18/2019 3:48 pm : link
let the youngins play.
Staal and Smith can be moved on from  
redbeard : 5/18/2019 4:31 pm : link
And the team will be better for it. We have young guys with potential to grow waiting...can’t have a bunch of dead weight that isn’t part of the future hanging around

Maybe they find a taker for Shatty as well, but he at least has so redeeming potential
Smith should be bought out. It won't cost us much.  
Anakim : 5/18/2019 9:01 pm : link
Staal should be traded, but he won't because we have cap space and it's not like we need a team to take him off our hands. I'd shop Pionk. I think we should keep Shattenkirk.
various  
ColHowPepper : 5/19/2019 9:20 am : link
JD looking very Drydenesque in that photo, era (almost) as well as size and stance

very classy statement from CBJ ownership:
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“When we hired John Davidson in October 2012, I said I thought he was the perfect person to lead our hockey operations efforts. Nearly seven years later, I believe I was right. He joined our team at a very difficult time and led a transformation that has resulted in consistent winning and appearances in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. J.D. is a man of great character and compassion and I completely understand his interest in the unique opportunity before him. I know leaving Columbus is a difficult decision for him as he has a genuine love of our community and organization, but the possibility of returning to his roots in New York where he spent three decades as a player and broadcaster, is an extraordinary circumstance for him and his family,” McConnell said in a statement.
“On behalf of my family, our ownership group and the entire Blue Jackets organization, I want to thank J.D. and wish him, Diana and their family nothing but the best in the years to come.”
During JD's tenure Blue Jackets had 9th most wins in the NHL, and that record came off a team that had the worst record in the League when he was hired.

Panarin would be nice, but NY teams have had such mixed success in big FA acquisitions, including the Rangers. I'd prefer JD stay the course with the groundwork laid by Gorton here. So many promising, young players about to come on board, and still so much wasted cap on contracts soon to expire, let the re-build continue and the team coalesce, develop chemistry and character a bit and then assess what pieces make sense.
If there is an opportunity  
JPinstripes : 5/19/2019 11:44 am : link
to get one of the top 10 wingers in the game at his prime you do it and don't think twice. Panarin would be a great add to NYR and accelerate the re-build. Also the Rangers have so many contracts expiring during the next 2 years and that money has to be spent somewhere, so may as well as spend it on one of the games best players.
For those who like to look at salaries  
SJGiant : 5/19/2019 1:26 pm : link
for the Rangers, I think Cap Friendly is very good. Sportrac is OK. Don't use NHL numbers (This was an old link I had saved). Thank god for MalwareBytes. It saved me from a Trojan virus from that website.
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