Rumors are starting to circulate Knicks may trade down and look to draft Texas Techs Jarrett Culver
I’m watching the draft combine and I’m seeing Tacko Fall competing
Central Florida Center 7’7”
Kid will be a game changer in NBA. Just like Mitchell Robinson was
Yep he really intruiges me as well. In the handful of games he played his #'s were off the charts.
I'm not as big a college bball fan as many on here (so take my opinion for what it's worth) but I'm with you. Take Barrett and be thankful we got a top 3 pick.
Also has great court vision and is a superior rebounder for a two guard. Does need to improve his three-point shooting but most rookies encounter the same issue.
The Knicks should not overthink things. RJ has very high ceiling.
And I hope they don’t strip the team for AD. This is particularly so because no matter what promises Davis makes, he is still a UFA in one year.
He is only 18 and average 22 pts 7.6 rebounds and 4.6 assists. Plus he has a ton of swagger and loves the big moment.
Also the talk is he is a natural passer we great vision.
Fall is a high 2nd round pick at best.
He is a 10 minute a game guy, come in for defense and match up situations
Separately, I was really opposed to the KP trade at the time, but it now looks like it might end up being the best trade in the history of the franchise (if KD + 1 actually come here and it helps give us the ammo to go get AD).
Also has great court vision and is a superior rebounder for a two guard. Does need to improve his three-point shooting but most rookies encounter the same issue.
The Knicks should not overthink things. RJ has very high ceiling.
And I hope they don’t strip the team for AD. This is particularly so because no matter what promises Davis makes, he is still a UFA in one year.
This is the part that a lot of people are missing. They would give up everything with no guarantee davis is staying because he cannot legally sign contract until mid-season . You are taking a huge chance trading for him when it's possible he can just walk after the year and be left with nothing . No way i make this trade .
He can say whatever he wants, if the year doesn't go well or he isn't happy he can walk and those promises of him staying mean nothing
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Is a triple A talent, still only 18, and had his best games against the best teams.
Also has great court vision and is a superior rebounder for a two guard. Does need to improve his three-point shooting but most rookies encounter the same issue.
The Knicks should not overthink things. RJ has very high ceiling.
And I hope they don’t strip the team for AD. This is particularly so because no matter what promises Davis makes, he is still a UFA in one year.
This is the part that a lot of people are missing. They would give up everything with no guarantee davis is staying because he cannot legally sign contract until mid-season . You are taking a huge chance trading for him when it's possible he can just walk after the year and be left with nothing . No way i make this trade .
He can say whatever he wants, if the year doesn't go well or he isn't happy he can walk and those promises of him staying mean nothing
Waste the few years left on KDs prime with a bunch of youth around him? Not happening.
Ian Begley did tweet yesterday that some people associated with Knicks like Culver but he just put that out there as a possibility.
For now, I'll go with Berman and believe it's going to be Barrett or AD.
Berman also says that Barrett is only slightly behind Morant on Knicks' current board.
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Is a triple A talent, still only 18, and had his best games against the best teams.
Also has great court vision and is a superior rebounder for a two guard. Does need to improve his three-point shooting but most rookies encounter the same issue.
The Knicks should not overthink things. RJ has very high ceiling.
And I hope they don’t strip the team for AD. This is particularly so because no matter what promises Davis makes, he is still a UFA in one year.
This is the part that a lot of people are missing. They would give up everything with no guarantee davis is staying because he cannot legally sign contract until mid-season . You are taking a huge chance trading for him when it's possible he can just walk after the year and be left with nothing . No way i make this trade .
He can say whatever he wants, if the year doesn't go well or he isn't happy he can walk and those promises of him staying mean nothing
Waste the few years left on KDs prime with a bunch of youth around him? Not happening.
So go all in for davis when he can walk after the season and give up all the youth and draft picks for the next years in the process ? That would be idiotic .
There is a middle ground you know. They can trade some of the youth for other vets . Since when did it become Acquire AD at all costs or bust ?
I didn't realize he can't legally sign a new contract until mid-season. Yeah, that's a deal-killer for me as well. I thought it was going to be a sign-and-trade type deal.
No, they don't.
If KD and another star come to NY, with or without AD, there will be a number of vet FA who will look to sign with the Knicks to chase a ring.
IF PG is the goal, you could get someone like Rajon Rondo. On a team with 2 or 3 legit star scorers, his passing ability would be amplified as he would not be expected to score, only distribute.
Other pass-first PG could include Ricky Rubio, Elfred Payton, or Darren Collson.
A 31 year old star who wants to win mutliple championships while still in his prime. What do you think the answer would be?
Ja Morant has at least the same upside as RJ Barrett. Kid is special. 6'3 (6'7 wingspan) elite athlete at point who already understands pick & roll concepts and how to utilize his stop and go better than anyone i remember recently at point in college. The game is slow for him. His biggest weakness is consistently shooting but he was 36% from 3 this year. He's a stud. Underrated ability to cut as well offensively. He'll also have the ball in his hands more than Barrett because of of his position. I'm struggling to find flaws in his game.
This is nonsense- pure nonsense.
NO has failed repeatedly to build an even moderately competitive team around AD and he finally just refused to continue to play for an inept organization. He wants to win, not be the best player on a bad team.
He will force his way to whatever team he thinks will get him a shot at a ring- and his agent has made him very aware that his hammer is his willingness to sign an extension. To kill any trade to a team he doesn't want to go to, all he has to say is "I will test FA at the end of the year" and the trade is dead, because you can't give up major assets without some assurances.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he wants to be paired with at least one major star. That basically means what ever team KD ends up on or LeBron's Lakers. Few other teams can offer the mix of cap space plus trade pieces to build a "big 3."
Anyone blaming AD after the criminal way NO has wasted his talent is not paying attention or simply has an agenda against the player.
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That would be idiotic if they did that. RJ Barrett has most upside of snyone in the draft not named Zion, you do not pass him up for a 3 and D guy. I was thought unimpressed with Culver in the tournament when the games mattered. Especially the championship game.
Ja Morant has at least the same upside as RJ Barrett. Kid is special. 6'3 (6'7 wingspan) elite athlete at point who already understands pick & roll concepts and how to utilize his stop and go better than anyone i remember recently at point in college. The game is slow for him. His biggest weakness is consistently shooting but he was 36% from 3 this year. He's a stud. Underrated ability to cut as well offensively. He'll also have the ball in his hands more than Barrett because of of his position. I'm struggling to find flaws in his game.
Defense or is that a result of him carrying his team offensively
Then when Zion is a FA bring him home to play with Barrett. KD should be at the end of his career by then anyway.
I want that to be our future after we try to win 5 the next 4-5 years.
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Winner, winner.
The big knock on Barrett has been that he can't shoot, but Morant isn't exactly a sharp shooter either. Morant's % his freshman year were pretty much in line with where RJ's were this year and he saw improvements to get to a more respectable level this year, as you would expect Barrett to as well with another year of experience.
The big knock on Barrett has been that he can't shoot, but Morant isn't exactly a sharp shooter either. Morant's % his freshman year were pretty much in line with where RJ's were this year and he saw improvements to get to a more respectable level this year, as you would expect Barrett to as well with another year of experience.
The counter-argument is to look at their free throw shooting. There’s a track record of good free throw shooters developing better long range shooting. Poor FT shooters usually do not.
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That would be idiotic if they did that. RJ Barrett has most upside of snyone in the draft not named Zion, you do not pass him up for a 3 and D guy. I was thought unimpressed with Culver in the tournament when the games mattered. Especially the championship game.
Ja Morant has at least the same upside as RJ Barrett. Kid is special. 6'3 (6'7 wingspan) elite athlete at point who already understands pick & roll concepts and how to utilize his stop and go better than anyone i remember recently at point in college. The game is slow for him. His biggest weakness is consistently shooting but he was 36% from 3 this year. He's a stud. Underrated ability to cut as well offensively. He'll also have the ball in his hands more than Barrett because of of his position. I'm struggling to find flaws in his game.
Defense or is that a result of him carrying his team offensively
not sure but that is one thing i did read, could be more consistent on defense.
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That would be idiotic if they did that. RJ Barrett has most upside of snyone in the draft not named Zion, you do not pass him up for a 3 and D guy. I was thought unimpressed with Culver in the tournament when the games mattered. Especially the championship game.
Ja Morant has at least the same upside as RJ Barrett. Kid is special. 6'3 (6'7 wingspan) elite athlete at point who already understands pick & roll concepts and how to utilize his stop and go better than anyone i remember recently at point in college. The game is slow for him. His biggest weakness is consistently shooting but he was 36% from 3 this year. He's a stud. Underrated ability to cut as well offensively. He'll also have the ball in his hands more than Barrett because of of his position. I'm struggling to find flaws in his game.
Defense or is that a result of him carrying his team offensively
not sure but that is one thing i did read, could be more consistent on defense.
He played zero defense in college.
Most said he conserved himself for the offensive side since he was 60 % of the offense.
I like Morant, but he has plenty of flaws. He might get #s to start, but will be inefficient esp w/o a J, or motor off the ball / on D. Plus he's a ball dominant PG, unless he's #1 on a bad team it'll take time and effort to fit if not build on those weaknesses
Also athleticism - tons are similar or better - DSJ, Shroeder, Ish Smith, if not stars like DMitch, Russ, Dame or Steph. Guys like Teague, Bledsoe, Brogdon, Lowry even Rondo, if not Klay or Demar, will give him trouble regardless. We'll also see his paint finishes vs NBA size & physicality - much tougher than the OVC and at least takes time to adjust
I think behind Conley is the ideal situation for him. And to be fair he'll likely be pretty good. But it's not going to be easy or definite IMO. There's a lot of work to be done, and a lot of bust potential if not. Obv just my 2 cents
smith, dotson, barrett, knox, trier, robinson, frank some young talent to watxh grow together
I can't say I've seen him a lot, but Darius Garland sounds awfully intriguing, even at 3.
he did shoot 45 percent from the field, scored 22.5 on 18 shots..
He can get to the rim, big and strong, good vision averaged 4 assists..
Needs to work on his 3 point shooting absolutely..
I think the spacing in the nba is really going to help him
He's kind of a do-it-all type even if not elite at one thing. That plus playing in the ACC (closest to NBA comp), you'd guess he has the easiest transition & highest floor of the top options as many say. Tho IMO star potential if he ups the D and J. Assuming KD for NYK, he can fit nicely whether a starter or a bench option for scoring, energy or D
There's still an argument to be made about several other prospects' ceilings, but RJ is likely the safest bet w/ the most immediate production
1) As far back as SportsRef data is available (since 92-93), Barrett is the only freshman to EVER have a season averaging 20+ PPG, 7+ RPG, and 4+ APG. 9 seniors and 6 juniors have done it, but it had NEVER been done before by a first *or* second year player.
2) R.J. Barrett averaged 4.3 assists per game last season.
That's a higher assist average than Coby White and Carsen Edwards, the No. 2 and 3 ranked PG's in this draft
3) Barrett also averaged 7.6 rebounds. That's a higher reb average than De'Andre Hunter, Jaxson Hayes and PJ Washington.
4) Tommy Beer Retweeted - Last season, R.J. Barrett became the first player EVER in NCAA Division 1 history to tally at least 850 points, 250 rebounds, 150 assists in a single season.
Barrett is also one of just three freshmen to score 850+ points (joining Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley, and Trae Young.)
Call me crazy, but Barrett has accomplished quite a bit and is still only 18 years old. Sign me up.