Players defined by their mistakes

Scott Norwood. Not that he had a great body of work, but he was a very good kicker for buffalo. He will always be remembered for wide right.

...OJ? (Allegedly)

Blair Walsh
Matt Dodge
Scott Hoch (golf- 2 foot putt Miss to win masters)

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Russell Wilson gets a lot of shit too for that interception vs the Patriots ("shouldve ran it with Lynch") in the Super Bowl.

No matter how many amazing plays that guy can make, discussions always default back to that damn throw lol.

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but that butt-fumble was just as pathetic as his career was. Good summation of the ol "Sanchize"!

Leon Lett made a pretty good career for himself. He also has two of the most boneheaded player in NFL history.

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In comment 14448311 RicosRoidedElbow said:

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In comment 14448305 Diver_Down said: Quote: . but that butt-fumble was just as pathetic as his career was. Good summation of the ol "Sanchize"!

You didn't specify that the player had to Canton bound. I'm not going to debate Sanchez's career. But for a guy who has hung around for 10 years with $74M in career earnings while taking the Jets to the playoffs, he certainly should be remembered for more plays and not just running into the backside of his OL.

OJ. Was 6 years old during the trial. It took me a long time to discover why this trial was so important to people, and how good of a running back he was.

was also a big fan of the naked gun movies and also thought he was just an actor because he was really funny in that role

1999 British Open

In comment 14448319 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 14448311 RicosRoidedElbow said: Quote: In comment 14448305 Diver_Down said: Quote: . but that butt-fumble was just as pathetic as his career was. Good summation of the ol "Sanchize"! You didn't specify that the player had to Canton bound. I'm not going to debate Sanchez's career. But for a guy who has hung around for 10 years with $74M in career earnings while taking the Jets to the playoffs, he certainly should be remembered for more plays and not just running into the backside of his OL.

I know I just love taking a shit on the Jets. *Pause, Look around* Stupid Jets! [Kevin from SP joke]

Killed his pregnant gf

was obviously nowhere near Carruth and OJ.

But imagine having a conversation in which you just wanted to talk about Carruth or OJ the player. It would be hard.

So Plax gets some of that. But then again so does Pete Rose. You can't see Pete without thinking about the gambling. And Pete was better than Plax by a mile.

who made good/great catches, often for TDs.
Not many, if any, of the were dumb enough to shoot themselves.

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who made good/great catches, often for TDs. Not many, if any, of the were dumb enough to shoot themselves.

Fine you want to be a jerk and make fun of the guy if you're an Eagle or worthless Dallas fan that's fine.

BUT if you're a Giant fan and letting that eat his catch in a magical moment in Super Bowl 42 and his great Giants days, what does that tell you about that person?

and focus on the negative. Facts.

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Ignore them and move on don't waste your breath ...

Serena Williams?

For as long as she has been around and all of those accomplishments, first vision I have of her is that little meltdown she had almost a year ago at the US Open.

Something about not getting the right call and how it correlates to her having a daughter somehow? Hahaha.

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Serena Williams? For as long as she has been around and all of those accomplishments, first vision I have of her is that little meltdown she had almost a year ago at the US Open. Something about not getting the right call and how it correlates to her having a daughter somehow? Hahaha.

"Don't talk to me"

(4 seconds later)

"You owe me an apology"

He was known as a great long snapper until the SF playoff game. Pretty mucn defined his career.

and the ear thing.

Not so much a mistake but for a mental block, Mackey Sasser.

Weber

Smith. HOF'er. But most people just remember the drop in the end zone.

to close out the game over the Bikes two years ago? He was a rookie, but still that's gonna stay with him one thinks.

Glad spell correct didn't make it Dikes!

Heath schuler

Jose canseco

Bill gramatica

Chris Webber

Bill Buckner

JR Smith

Jim "Wrong Way" Marshall.

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2nd baseman who lost the ability to throw to first.

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that nowadays everyone seems to be defined by their worst moment. Plaxico shooting himself was a completely foolish thing to do. There isn’t any reason for him to have even been carrying the gun. I don’t get why someone like that would be a hero to anyone. He had enough money to pay professionals with carry permits to bodyguard him, he was also absolutely a massive human, did he really need an illegal firearm? Or did he do it to look cool and be hard? He was a good player for the Giants, probably could have been a lot better had that not happened. David Tyree made an amazing catch and he is everywhere nowadays. Plaxico was a much better player and did catch the SB winning TD, yet he isn’t seen to often. I doubt the Giants or media stations really want him around all that much. So whichever way you want to look at it, his decision/action to carry that gun in his sweatpants has defined his football life since the incident.

Because on the good side. We all know him for his special teams prowess, but he will always be remembered and known for the helmet catch (and he really wasn't much of a wide receiver)

So what does that saw about society or sports fans?

Are we jealous that they can do things we could never do and once they make a mistake, we're quick to trash them?

Good points.

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Russell Wilson gets a lot of shit too for that interception vs the Patriots ("shouldve ran it with Lynch") in the Super Bowl. No matter how many amazing plays that guy can make, discussions always default back to that damn throw lol.

I think more people blame Pete Carroll for not having Lynch run it.

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So what does that saw about society or sports fans? Are we jealous that they can do things we could never do and once they make a mistake, we're quick to trash them? Good points.

In Plaxicos case, I don’t think it says anything about society. He was a super rich dude that acted like an asshole, knowingly committed a felony, and managed to make a fool of himself while doing so.

People like Norwood, Buckner, etc... made errors and missed a huge field goal, Plaxico decided to take the gun out and paid the price. It’s only because he is a former athlete that he is even mentioned again, probably also the reason for his sentence. I imagine and I hope you wouldn’t stick up for some Giant player that beats his wife, why waste your time sticking up for a guy who decided to put other humans in harms way? Am I willing to forgive him? Absolutely, he didn’t end up hurting anyone other than himself and the Giants that season. He is still an asshole for doing it.

I think you are looking too much as Plaxico as the victim of cruel and mean fans. He made all his money because of his ability and those fans. He played well for the Giants, but he also singlehandedly probably cost them one of the most promising seasons in Eli’s career. Plaxico goes into the category of Vick and other people that committed crimes, he doesn’t go into the bad moment on the field guys like a Buckner Norwood etc...

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2nd baseman who lost the ability to throw to first.

Wasn't that Chuck Knobloch? Or the Yankees had two 2bmen that couldn't throw to 1b?

but steve bartman.

the brasilian team that lost 0-6 to the germans.

garo yepremian. Cam Newton superbowl fumble.

the umpire that ruined a perfect game Jim Joyce.

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He was known as a great long snapper until the SF playoff game. Pretty mucn defined his career.

Grrrr.

Please don't bring this name up.

:-)

Let's be honest now, your last response was pretty aimless and especially at that last part of "seeing Plaxico" at the victim. Face it, all of the players are rich and have more money than the average Joe. We get that, we are basically all on the same level in life as having less money than a pro athlete. Completely pointless to point that out and your whole mindset was just aimless as well in that response as well.

Why waste my time? Because he contributed to a New York Giants championship and he was my favorite Giant.

As I said, he only hurt himself. While stupid, it still doesn't erase the memory of the game winning catch against an 18-0 team.

The beating wife comparison was aimless as well. I know you just have that "Stick up for the other guy or go against the OP" mentality the internet has.

when that name comes up, you should be focused on the game winning Super Bowl touchdown when Plaxicos name comes up, the coin of his realm as a Giant. Not obsessing over the point where the shooting himself incident over rides his skills and what he did. Since no, no one was hurt. It's still about the game winner and it will always be, nothing gets cancelled out.

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the umpire that ruined a perfect game Jim Joyce.

If I was the pitcher, the manager, 3rd base coach bench player or someone else not important during this I would've broken Joyce's jaw over this.

Some lousy teammates that guy has had.

In comment 14448504 RicosRoidedElbow said:

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Let's be honest now, your last response was pretty aimless and especially at that last part of "seeing Plaxico" at the victim. Face it, all of the players are rich and have more money than the average Joe. We get that, we are basically all on the same level in life as having less money than a pro athlete. Completely pointless to point that out and your whole mindset was just aimless as well in that response as well. Why waste my time? Because he contributed to a New York Giants championship and he was my favorite Giant. As I said, he only hurt himself. While stupid, it still doesn't erase the memory of the game winning catch against an 18-0 team. The beating wife comparison was aimless as well. I know you just have that "Stick up for the other guy or go against the OP" mentality the internet has.

Respectfully, I have no idea what you are trying to say. I am not going against you or for you, as I am not arguing any point. However, if you think that all Giants fans have to think he is a hero because of his stint here and just forget about the shooting himself incident, I don’t know what to tell you. At no point was I attacking you, sticking up for the other guy, or anything of the sort. Post what you want, read what you want, think what you want. Good luck

Once you get the nickname "Bonehead", it defines your career.

Top of the ninth inning in the fourth game of the 1941 World Series at Ebbets Field. Yankees versus the Dodgers. Two outs Dodgers winning 4-3. A win and the series is tied 2-2.

Mickey Owen was the catcher for the Dodgers. Tommy Henrich of the Yanks strikes out for the third out and the Dodgers win. But wait the pitch hits Owens glove and gets passed him as Henrich reaches first base. Yankees continue batting and take a 7-4 lead. Dodgers go down in the bottom of the ninth.

Yankees lead Series now 3-1. They win the next game to take the Series and the phrase “Wait till next year” is born.

Weber’s time-out

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In comment 14448431 Nomad Crow on the Madison said: Quote: 2nd baseman who lost the ability to throw to first. Wasn't that Chuck Knobloch? Or the Yankees had two 2bmen that couldn't throw to 1b?

Steve Sax. lost the ability to make ANY short throw. it was amazing to watch.

first one that popped into my mind though was Tony Romo and the snap