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NFT: Kyrie to Nets; Durant to Knicks?

PhilSimms15 : 5/19/2019 10:35 am
The Boston Herald claims that there are rumors that while Kyrie and KD want to team up, Kyrie wants the Nets and KD wants the Knicks.

What I donít understand is why the Nets would want Kyrie. Kyrie will get a max. Shouldnít Russell also get a max? And of course Dinwiddie is also a good player at the point. That would be a ton of money invested in the PG position.

So even if Kyrie wants the Nets, do the Nets, and their fans want him?
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It is based off of 1 agent apparently  
nygiants16 : 5/19/2019 10:52 am : link
The same source said he has been told it is a smokescreen, who knows..

Is the nets gutted really that much better than the knicks?
Also if kyrie really wants the nets  
nygiants16 : 5/19/2019 10:55 am : link
makes the report that durant is recruiting players make sense...

also remember the reports about kyrie to nets mainly have been his "people" pushing the nets and him wanting the knicks
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threeofakind33 : 5/19/2019 10:56 am : link
Nets fans do not want Kyrie without KD.

Unclear if the Nets org wants Kyrie.
If this was the opposite  
nygiants16 : 5/19/2019 10:59 am : link
durant wants nets and kyrie wants knivks it would make more sense..

Kyrie to the nets makes no sense for both parties
Good, give me KD and Kemba  
robbieballs2003 : 5/19/2019 11:04 am : link
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RE: Good, give me KD and Kemba  
Big Blue Hokie : 5/19/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14448612 robbieballs2003 said:
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Agree. Want no part of Kyrie
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threeofakind33 : 5/19/2019 11:11 am : link
Also, to build.

I donít think the Nets are the second unnamed team in that article. I think the second team is the Clippers (ie they only want Kyrie if Kawhi says he wants to play with him in LA).

The Nets front office is one of the most leak-proof in the NBA. This kind of stuff almost certainly isnít coming from them. No one seems to have any idea what Brooklyn is aiming to do. All of the KD/Kyrie/Butler to the Nets talk seems to be coming from the agent-side.

Nets FO may want him over Russell or they may have crossed him off entirely. No one knows.
Im not sure  
MookGiants : 5/19/2019 11:29 am : link
how anyone would prefer Kemba over Kyrie.

Culture  
Canton : 5/19/2019 11:31 am : link
And he's injury prone.


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RE: Im not sure  
BigBlueShock : 5/19/2019 11:39 am : link
In comment 14448625 MookGiants said:
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how anyone would prefer Kemba over Kyrie.

I wouldnít say I prefer him, but he may be a better fit for the Knicks with KD, assuming he comes. Kyrie is younger and a much better player so that trumps all. Thereís just something about putting Kyrie with Durant that scares me. They are both incredibly thin skinned and Kyrie in particular is extremely moody and things could go downhill quickly if they start to struggle.

Iíd still take Kyrie but I absolutely understand others preferring Kemba
RE: Good, give me KD and Kemba  
Sean : 5/19/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14448612 robbieballs2003 said:
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This.
Kyrie and AD  
dk in TX : 5/19/2019 12:04 pm : link
I really don't want any part of Kyrie either. He is an injury prone malcontent. I will not sell the farm and all our future draft picks for Anthony Davis.

They need maintain a healthy balance of draft picks and free agency. My dream acquisition is; KD, AD and draft Morant.
you're  
MookGiants : 5/19/2019 12:26 pm : link
not winning a title with Kemba as your 2nd best player. We already know that you can win a title with Kyrie as your 2nd best player because it actually happened.

I know Kyrie turned a lot of people off this year, but there's no debate who is the better player. Sure, there are some issues and risks involved with Kyrie, but I have no interest in Kemba.
I don't think  
MookGiants : 5/19/2019 12:30 pm : link
there's anything Kemba does better than Kyrie.

Kyrie is also 2 years younger.

I understand peoples concerns with Kyrie, but I don't understand people preferring the lesser player.
I would be upset at first  
hitdog42 : 5/19/2019 12:48 pm : link
Then warm up immediately to the kyrie dlo swap as Iím quite certain they wouldnít do that if there were not more things on the follow.
Performance team and coaching staff would be a big sell for kyrie
If we didnt get Kyrie..  
Italianju : 5/19/2019 12:53 pm : link
Id rather just use some cap space to absorb AD or a similar type deal. Iíll roll with DSJ for a fraction of the cost. I donít mind Kemba but Iím not maxing him out.
Steve Popper  
nygiants16 : 5/19/2019 1:08 pm : link
Says there were rumblings that durant and knicks had secret meeting and have handshake agreement
I wonder if they're weighing  
bceagle05 : 5/19/2019 3:03 pm : link
making an AD trade first and absorbing him into their cap, so they won't have to gut the roster just to match salaries. New Orleans may have even told the Knicks they're not interested in Knox and/or Frank and won't accept them for the sake of matching salaries, so do the trade now. Knicks could sign KD and have a decent amount of money to add a couple of role players.
So when does the tampering  
hitdog42 : 5/19/2019 3:21 pm : link
Investigation start if that is the case lol
RE: So when does the tampering  
nygiants16 : 5/19/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14448869 hitdog42 said:
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Investigation start if that is the case lol


the only second he signs haha, the thing is how do you prove it? they have not mentioned duranta name at all...

you know golden state will file the second it happens though
RE: I don't think  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/19/2019 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14448680 MookGiants said:
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there's anything Kemba does better than Kyrie.

Kyrie is also 2 years younger.

I understand peoples concerns with Kyrie, but I don't understand people preferring the lesser player.


Last 3 years...

Kemba: 241 Games
Kyrie: 199 Games

Kyrie (24.5 PPG / .552 eFG%) has been a better scorer than Kemba (23.7 PPG / .518 eFG%) these last 3 years. Kyrie is a little better at everything outside of but Kemba has been far more durable recently.

Durability edge combined with the fact that Kemba seems to be a superior teammate are a decent argument for him over Kyrie.
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Giantz_comeback : 5/19/2019 4:43 pm : link
In comment 14448953 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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In comment 14448680 MookGiants said:


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there's anything Kemba does better than Kyrie.

Kyrie is also 2 years younger.

I understand peoples concerns with Kyrie, but I don't understand people preferring the lesser player.



Last 3 years...

Kemba: 241 Games
Kyrie: 199 Games

Kyrie (24.5 PPG / .552 eFG%) has been a better scorer than Kemba (23.7 PPG / .518 eFG%) these last 3 years. Kyrie is a little better at everything outside of but Kemba has been far more durable recently.

Durability edge combined with the fact that Kemba seems to be a superior teammate are a decent argument for him over Kyrie.


Kemba would not be a terrible 3rd option. And he would LOVE coming back to the Mecca.
RE: you're  
BigBlueShock : 5/19/2019 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14448679 MookGiants said:
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not winning a title with Kemba as your 2nd best player. We already know that you can win a title with Kyrie as your 2nd best player because it actually happened.

I know Kyrie turned a lot of people off this year, but there's no debate who is the better player. Sure, there are some issues and risks involved with Kyrie, but I have no interest in Kemba.

While this may be true, Kemba has never gotten to play with an in his prime LeBron. I mean, who is the best player Kemba has ever played with?
RE: Im not sure  
Section331 : 5/20/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14448625 MookGiants said:
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how anyone would prefer Kemba over Kyrie.


Kyrie is CLEARLY the better player, and younger, but he's also a weird dude. I think he'd be fine as a 2nd banana to KD, but you do have to consider how his personality fits into a locker room. It didn't work very well in Boston this year.
All the questions about Kyrie have to do with his head  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/20/2019 9:20 am : link
not his ability.
Fine I want no part of  
Harvest Blend : 5/20/2019 9:32 am : link
Irving. The opposite? Absolute disaster.
Magic Johnson destroyed Pelinka on First Take.  
bceagle05 : 5/20/2019 1:48 pm : link
Knew it was only a matter of time before Magic spoke - that bizarre presser wasn't gonna cut it. I'm loving this Laker dysfunction.
Magic was told by people in the league and media  
bceagle05 : 5/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
that Pelinka was spreading stories about Magic not working hard enough (though it's probably true). Pelinka wanted his job. I'm sure Phil and Rambis will straighten everything out in Lakerland.
RE: RE: I don't think  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14448953 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Durability edge combined with the fact that Kemba seems to be a superior teammate are a decent argument for him over Kyrie.


Kyrie's argument will always be whipping Steph Curry's ass so badly in the Finals that the next season when the teams faced off again, the Cavs made Klay Thompson guard him. As for how he's viewed as a teammate, his situation was basically a lowercase version of KD's in Golden State. It was just missing the blatant Draymond Green "We don't need you" blowup. However, all the young kids on the Celtics obviously felt that way. They're as much to blame as he is. I'm not worried about Kyrie once he's finally in a situation of his own choosing.
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Stu11 : 5/20/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14450004 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Durability edge combined with the fact that Kemba seems to be a superior teammate are a decent argument for him over Kyrie.



Kyrie's argument will always be whipping Steph Curry's ass so badly in the Finals that the next season when the teams faced off again, the Cavs made Klay Thompson guard him. As for how he's viewed as a teammate, his situation was basically a lowercase version of KD's in Golden State. It was just missing the blatant Draymond Green "We don't need you" blowup. However, all the young kids on the Celtics obviously felt that way. They're as much to blame as he is. I'm not worried about Kyrie once he's finally in a situation of his own choosing.

That shot he buried in game 7 was easily the most clutch shot in the NBA in the last decade. The fact that he had the balls to take and make it with Lebron on the team should tell you all you need to know. he can be a weird dude, but there's no arguing with his #'s.
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Giantz_comeback : 5/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14450073 Stu11 said:
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In comment 14448953 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:


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Durability edge combined with the fact that Kemba seems to be a superior teammate are a decent argument for him over Kyrie.



Kyrie's argument will always be whipping Steph Curry's ass so badly in the Finals that the next season when the teams faced off again, the Cavs made Klay Thompson guard him. As for how he's viewed as a teammate, his situation was basically a lowercase version of KD's in Golden State. It was just missing the blatant Draymond Green "We don't need you" blowup. However, all the young kids on the Celtics obviously felt that way. They're as much to blame as he is. I'm not worried about Kyrie once he's finally in a situation of his own choosing.


That shot he buried in game 7 was easily the most clutch shot in the NBA in the last decade. The fact that he had the balls to take and make it with Lebron on the team should tell you all you need to know. he can be a weird dude, but there's no arguing with his #'s.


Kyrie offensively can take over a game when he's in a zone. And we know he is a gamer. I like his game on the court alot. Apparently so does KD.
Durant starting to fire back at people (including Broussard)  
bceagle05 : 5/20/2019 5:17 pm : link
on social media regarding the Warriors success without him. I'm here for all of it. Keep pushing him out the door.
RE: Durant starting to fire back at people (including Broussard)  
nygiants16 : 5/20/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14450254 bceagle05 said:
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on social media regarding the Warriors success without him. I'm here for all of it. Keep pushing him out the door.


It is funny he attacked him for that but didnt attack him for saying durant is recruiting people to knicks...

Itnis funny for all the talk about him to knicks he has not attacked a single report about it
Some conflicting reports but  
bceagle05 : 5/20/2019 7:16 pm : link
Frankie switched agents, possibly in preparation for a trade.
The Frank trade request stuff is from Bondy  
bceagle05 : 5/20/2019 7:22 pm : link
so it's probably nonsense. I don't expect him to be a Knick next year though.
RE: The Frank trade request stuff is from Bondy  
TyreeHelmet : 5/20/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14450356 bceagle05 said:
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so it's probably nonsense. I don't expect him to be a Knick next year though.


You arenít getting anything quality in a return and his value couldnít be lower, therefore I would hold on to him. I actually think he will play better with better scorers on the team.
Holy crap  
MookGiants : 5/20/2019 8:09 pm : link
i just heard some of the Lakers press conference. Vogel and Pelinka live in an alternate universe.
Durant is one of the weirdest  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/20/2019 8:25 pm : link
Athletes Iíve seen when it comes to pressure.

He clearly feels pressure from the media and fans. The way he responds on twitter against guys like Broussard is one thing, but creating burners and coming at fans? Thatís soft. He cares a little too much.

But then he goes out and delivers in the playoffs and especially Finals. Cavs D sucked the last couple of years but he still eviscerated them to secure his status as an all-time scoring machine.

Odd dude. Him and Kyrie as the faces of a New York squad would be interesting.
I think the Dubs success without KD  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/20/2019 9:01 pm : link
these last 4 games only makes it more likely he's gone. I still think he's a 99.9% a Knick come 7/1.
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