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Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2019 11:34 am
TB
Austin Meadows (L) DH
Tommy Pham (R) LF
Ji-Man Choi (L) 1B
Yandy Diaz (R) 3B
Brandon Lowe (L) RF
Travis d'Arnaud (R) C
Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
Willy Adames (R) SS
Daniel Robertson (R) 2B

NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Luke Voit (R) 1B
Gary Sanchez (R) C
Kendrys Morales (S) DH
Gleyber Torres (R) SS
Gio Urshela (R) 3B
Brett Gardner (L) LF
Clint Frazier (R) RF

Charlie Morton vs. Chad Green (opener)

75 degrees and partly cloudy at first pitch.

My dad, a life long Yankees fan turned 80 today, so win one for him Yankees!
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What a play by Gleyber!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2019 4:32 pm : link
Kid is gonna be special.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Looks like Chance Adams is coming out for the 9th.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2019 4:32 pm : link
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Why not? Doing fine. The more innings the better. Hope he has any easy three outs and we all walk away happy.



I wasn't complaining. Just making an observation as they showed him real quick before going to commercial.



You jinxed him...;-o


Haha, damnit! :)
RE: RE: RE: Looks like Chance Adams is coming out for the 9th.  
dpinzow : 5/19/2019 4:34 pm : link
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Do they put him in the rotation for the time being? We only have 4 starters to run out there until Paxton gets back and that won't be for at least a couple of weeks




Might do the opener thing again. Paxton has another bullpen session Tuesday. If it goes pain free he may be back Friday or Saturday.


Paxton will probably need a rehab assignment next weekend before he returns
RE: RE: RE: RE: Looks like Chance Adams is coming out for the 9th.  
section125 : 5/19/2019 4:37 pm : link
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Do they put him in the rotation for the time being? We only have 4 starters to run out there until Paxton gets back and that won't be for at least a couple of weeks




Might do the opener thing again. Paxton has another bullpen session Tuesday. If it goes pain free he may be back Friday or Saturday.



Paxton will probably need a rehab assignment next weekend before he returns


I don't think so. He's missed two starts?
1st place!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2019 4:38 pm : link
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Great comeback!  
section125 : 5/19/2019 4:39 pm : link
I liked it - Adams just kept throwing FB down the middle to get the pop up.
OP  
Percy : 5/19/2019 4:39 pm : link
And Happy Birthday to your Dad!
Great disses today!  
section125 : 5/19/2019 4:43 pm : link
Said that Cortez sux and he got through 4 innings after the 3 run HR.

Said LeMahieu had little power sand he crushed a HR.

Was pissed at Torres weak at bat and hot dog fielding play and he made a nice play in the 9th to get the force at 3rd and the rbi single in the 6th.
Why did  
Mike Graves : 5/19/2019 4:50 pm : link
Estrada pinch hit for Urshela
13 runs for pop's 80th bday  
Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2019 4:56 pm : link
I'll take it!
RE: Why did  
Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14449011 Mike Graves said:
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Estrada pinch hit for Urshela


Urshela got hit in the plums
RE: OP  
Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14449003 Percy said:
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And Happy Birthday to your Dad!


thank you!
Per YES Postgame.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2019 4:58 pm : link
Yankees are 22-8 in their last 30 games. I mean, with all of the injuries to our big name guys and our Ace not pitching once this season thus far, that is incredible.
RE: Per YES Postgame.  
MadPlaid : 5/19/2019 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14449019 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Yankees are 22-8 in their last 30 games. I mean, with all of the injuries to our big name guys and our Ace not pitching once this season thus far, that is incredible.

That is amazing. Really enjoying the ride. I hope it lasts.
RE: You have to laugh at the ammount of money the Yankees spend  
BigBlueShock : 5/19/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14448799 arniefez said:
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on Analytics and how stupidly they run the games. The Rays have 2 hitters and the Yankees keep letting those same two guys abuse them. Maybe hire another 50 laptops and hopefully one of them will understand how the game of baseball works.

No, what you really have to laugh at is that you never get tired of completely embarrassing yourself.

Great win. What a run! This is a team to be proud of. I can’t believe they can even muster the energy to get out of bed in the morning with the way the shitty, overpaid analytics team, completely clueless manager and idiot of a GM have run this team into the ground...
RE: 13 runs for pop's 80th bday  
Hsilwek92 : 5/19/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14449015 Jints in Carolina said:
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I'll take it!


That’s awesome. Happy b-day to your father. Hope it was a great one.
RE: RE: 13 runs for pop's 80th bday  
Jints in Carolina : 5/19/2019 5:50 pm : link
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I'll take it!



That’s awesome. Happy b-day to your father. Hope it was a great one.


thanks!
RE: RE: You have to laugh at the ammount of money the Yankees spend  
section125 : 5/19/2019 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14449032 BigBlueShock said:
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............................... I can’t believe they can even muster the energy to get out of bed in the morning with the way the shitty, overpaid analytics team, completely clueless manager and idiot of a GM have run this team into the ground...


agree, they must be aching for this season to be over with and move on to the next team...:-o
Stanton  
JPinstripes : 5/19/2019 6:07 pm : link
Rehab assignment starts tomorrow night in Tampa High A.
RE: Stanton  
section125 : 5/19/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14449070 JPinstripes said:
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Rehab assignment starts tomorrow night in Tampa High A.


fingers crossed. A week or two until Stanton is back.
Stanton  
Marty866b : 5/19/2019 6:22 pm : link
Anyone really excited to see Stanton back? I am not impressed by Frazier, but it's too bad that Judge isn't the one coming back soon.
Big shout to Jints for starting the thread and his pops!  
Mike from SI : 5/19/2019 6:30 pm : link
I love this team. Can't wait to get Stanton back! (And all the others lol.)
RE: Stanton  
section125 : 5/19/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14449094 Marty866b said:
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Anyone really excited to see Stanton back? I am not impressed by Frazier, but it's too bad that Judge isn't the one coming back soon.


Not as excited as if it were Judge, but yes I'll happy to see him back. Just to give Gardner and Frazier a break.
I was actually feeling Frazier has lost his mojo and needs a little time off or a trip to SWB.

But:
LeMahieu (2B)
Hicks (CF)
Voit (1B)
Stanton (DH)
Sanchez (C)
Torres (SS)
Ushela (3B)
Frazier/Maybin (RF)
Gardner/Maybin (LF)

is starting to look like a MLB lineup.
Yeah nice win for Jints dad today  
adamg : 5/19/2019 6:34 pm : link
Let's keep it going. First place baby.
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arcarsenal : 5/19/2019 6:45 pm : link
Happy 80th to Papa Jints!

1st place is a nice gift. :)
RE: Big shout to Jints for starting the thread and his pops!  
section125 : 5/19/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14449099 Mike from SI said:
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I love this team. Can't wait to get Stanton back! (And all the others lol.)


Jints record is pretty damn good this season. May make the all star game.
Happy Birthday to your Pops
Didn't see this about Judge: Won't be fully healthy this year.  
manh george : 5/19/2019 6:49 pm : link
In NY Post.

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Aaron Judge admits ‘obvious’: He won’t be fully healthy for rest of season.
Aaron Judge said it’s “obvious” he won’t be fully healthy the rest of the season while he deals with a strained left oblique, but he will return as soon as possible.

“You don’t have time to get all the way there,’’ Judge said Friday before the Yankees’ 4-3 comeback win over the Rays in The Bronx.. “It’s the season. You’ve got to get back. Once I’m healthy enough to get back in games, I’ll get back out there.”

He still hasn’t resumed baseball activities, and Carlos Beltran, a special assistant to general manager Brian Cashman, said Thursday an oblique injury like the one Judge suffered on April 20 will impact him all year. The two recently had a conversation about it.


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RE: Didn't see this about Judge: Won't be fully healthy this year.  
section125 : 5/19/2019 6:52 pm : link
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Aaron Judge admits ‘obvious’: He won’t be fully healthy for rest of season.
Aaron Judge said it’s “obvious” he won’t be fully healthy the rest of the season while he deals with a strained left oblique, but he will return as soon as possible.

“You don’t have time to get all the way there,’’ Judge said Friday before the Yankees’ 4-3 comeback win over the Rays in The Bronx.. “It’s the season. You’ve got to get back. Once I’m healthy enough to get back in games, I’ll get back out there.”

He still hasn’t resumed baseball activities, and Carlos Beltran, a special assistant to general manager Brian Cashman, said Thursday an oblique injury like the one Judge suffered on April 20 will impact him all year. The two recently had a conversation about it.

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Yeah saw that. Hard to believe you can play with a pulled oblique in any way, shape or form.
RE: What a play by Gleyber!  
Del Shofner : 5/20/2019 12:53 am : link
In comment 14448991 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Kid is gonna be special.


Got in late so I'm watching the replay. That was some play by Gleyber. I know we shake our heads at some of what he does, but that was Jeter-ian.
I think they need to let Frazier battle through it  
Milton : 5/20/2019 5:47 am : link
He's either a Major League ballplayer or he's not and with Stanton and Judge on the mend, this is the time to find out. Let Stanton and Judge take their time getting fully healthy. If it takes months to come fully back from an oblique injury, then give Judge the time so when it comes September and October we're not wondering what might've been if he was 100% for the playoffs. The replacements are doing well enough that nothing needs to be rushed.
LeMahieu...  
M.S. : 5/20/2019 6:03 am : link

...wow, what a pick up! Probably the most consistent every day player the Yankees have on their 2019 squad.
RE: RE: What a play by Gleyber!  
section125 : 5/20/2019 7:13 am : link
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Kid is gonna be special.



Got in late so I'm watching the replay. That was some play by Gleyber. I know we shake our heads at some of what he does, but that was Jeter-ian.


There is absolutely no doubt that Torres is special. But he also has to stop making unnecessarily stupid throws especially with Luke at 1st. Luke is very much better picking balls out of the dirt this year compared to last, but he'll never be Mattingly or Tino. Yes some throws get away, but he needs to be certain on his throws and minimize the chance of a bad one.
Maybe a bit of a nit pick, but why take chances.
Voit remains a bad defender at 1st...  
Dunedin81 : 5/20/2019 8:44 am : link
but it's night and day compared to last year. He's a (mostly) steady subpar defender this year, last year he was a butcher.
RE: RE: RE: What a play by Gleyber!  
rich in DC : 5/20/2019 9:09 am : link
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Kid is gonna be special.



Got in late so I'm watching the replay. That was some play by Gleyber. I know we shake our heads at some of what he does, but that was Jeter-ian.



There is absolutely no doubt that Torres is special. But he also has to stop making unnecessarily stupid throws especially with Luke at 1st. Luke is very much better picking balls out of the dirt this year compared to last, but he'll never be Mattingly or Tino. Yes some throws get away, but he needs to be certain on his throws and minimize the chance of a bad one.
Maybe a bit of a nit pick, but why take chances.


With Torres, I think a number of the errors come with him being in his early 20's and not having a ton of game experience. Give him 3-4 years and he will learn when to throw, when to hold, and how to "cheat" a step on defense. He will be fine- he just needs to play day in and day out. The skills are there- experience does the rest.
At what..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2019 9:11 am : link
point do you just acknowledge this as a sad troll job??

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RE: You have to laugh at the ammount of money the Yankees spend
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on Analytics and how stupidly they run the games. The Rays have 2 hitters and the Yankees keep letting those same two guys abuse them. Maybe hire another 50 laptops and hopefully one of them will understand how the game of baseball works.


If you are a Yankees fan right now and shitting on ownership, Cashman, Boone, analytics, then you are really fucking tone-deaf, intentionally trolling or a complete moron.

If you can't enjoy this stretch of baseball, the real question is, when will you ever enjoy it?
RE: I think they need to let Frazier battle through it  
rich in DC : 5/20/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14449447 Milton said:
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He's either a Major League ballplayer or he's not and with Stanton and Judge on the mend, this is the time to find out. Let Stanton and Judge take their time getting fully healthy. If it takes months to come fully back from an oblique injury, then give Judge the time so when it comes September and October we're not wondering what might've been if he was 100% for the playoffs. The replacements are doing well enough that nothing needs to be rushed.


In Frazier's case, he needs to play. However, with Hicks back, Gardner not going anywhere, and Stanton soon to be back, it doesn't make a lot of sense to keep him in NY, where it might become a platoon situation.

If the injury plague did not occur, he would likely have stayed in AAA and received 300-400 ABs before getting called up.

Remember that the Yanks reworked his swing, but then he missed most of the season with the concussion. He needs ABs in a more controlled environment where the impact of an 0 for 4 isn't as big a deal as getting the swing right is.

Send him down and give him several hundred ABs and we'll see him in September.
It's Randall  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2019 9:14 am : link
Unless the Steinbrenners sold the team, and the new owner replaced Cashman, he's not going to stop complaining.

The team is in first place despite half the starting lineup and their expected two best starting pitchers being out.
My point..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2019 9:16 am : link
is he won't ever stop complaining.

New owners would just give new fodder for his dumbassery.
Every time it looks like Gardy's goose is cooked...  
Dunedin81 : 5/20/2019 9:44 am : link
he does something big at the plate to buy himself some more time. He does need his playing time reduced to keep him fresh and because day to day he's not that effective, but he had a great game yesterday.
Considering  
Carson53 : 5/20/2019 9:49 am : link
who the Yanks had to use as pitchers, nice to get a series win out of it. I didn't like the matchup, but they just keep carrying on. Nice to see a guy like Estrada with a
huge hit, hope Urshela is feeling better, ouch.
RE: Every time it looks like Gardy's goose is cooked...  
M.S. : 5/20/2019 9:51 am : link
In comment 14449622 Dunedin81 said:
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he does something big at the plate to buy himself some more time. He does need his playing time reduced to keep him fresh and because day to day he's not that effective, but he had a great game yesterday.


I get the sense that Brett Gardner is looking to jack the ball over the fence. I seem to recall him being much more a slap hitter when he came up and for several years after that.
RE: RE: Every time it looks like Gardy's goose is cooked...  
Carson53 : 5/20/2019 9:54 am : link
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he does something big at the plate to buy himself some more time. He does need his playing time reduced to keep him fresh and because day to day he's not that effective, but he had a great game yesterday.



I get the sense that Brett Gardner is looking to jack the ball over the fence. I seem to recall him being much more a slap hitter when he came up and for several years after that.
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He ambushed the pitcher on the first pitch on his HR,
hoping Stanton is back by the end of the month.
At this stage, Gardner would be better off playing less.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2019 9:54 am : link
Gardner has low-key been a really important player this year.

It's not that his performance overall has been anything to write home about - but with Hicks starting the year on the shelf and missing over a month, Judge and Stanton getting hurt and missing significant time, Frazier needing a quick IL stint - Grandpa Gardy just keeps answering the bell and has done everything asked of him. He's gone back and forth between LF/CF, he's batted basically everywhere from leadoff to 3rd to the bottom of the order, and he's had a knack for a well-timed HR.

He hasn't been our best player, but we've really needed to lean on Brett this year so far and he's been durable and done a really nice job. In retrospect, it's a good thing we brought him back.
Sure hope Gio Urshela is OK...  
M.S. : 5/20/2019 9:59 am : link

...talk about taking one in the shorts.

Ouch!!!

Many years ago, a teammate did the same thing, but only worse. He fouled one off his in-step and somehow, some crazy way the ball also nicked the plate and rebounded right into the family jewels. He went down like a shot, and just for good measure sustained a fractured bone in his foot.

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rich in DC : 5/20/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14449632 arcarsenal said:
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Gardner has low-key been a really important player this year.

It's not that his performance overall has been anything to write home about - but with Hicks starting the year on the shelf and missing over a month, Judge and Stanton getting hurt and missing significant time, Frazier needing a quick IL stint - Grandpa Gardy just keeps answering the bell and has done everything asked of him. He's gone back and forth between LF/CF, he's batted basically everywhere from leadoff to 3rd to the bottom of the order, and he's had a knack for a well-timed HR.

He hasn't been our best player, but we've really needed to lean on Brett this year so far and he's been durable and done a really nice job. In retrospect, it's a good thing we brought him back.


Gardner has been very important to the team for years, but one has to think this season is his swan song with the Yanks.

I would really like to see the Yanks keep Maybin around for a couple years as a 4th OF. He really isn't starter material, as the bat never developed like projected, but he does play everywhere defensively and has some speed left.

I think he would not complain about being the backup OF on a good team with playoff chances every year now that he is 32.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2019 11:27 am : link
I agree this year is the end of the road for Gardy here - not sure if he'll want to keep going elsewhere, but I'm sure the Yanks will decide it's time to move on - which will be the right timing and the right call.

But, for now, it's been nice to have him - we've really needed him. A lot more than anyone would have hoped, but the reliance on him should continue to wane with Stanton on the way back, Hicks already here and Frazier having earned consistent AB's before his injury. He's been ice cold since, but he's just got to keep fighting through it. I think he'll be fine.

I like Maybin - definitely more than Tauchman. And I wouldn't be opposed to him sticking around for depth. I guess what happens with Florial this year as far as when he gets back, how he performs in Trenton, etc. will also determine what the OF depth looks like going forward. I don't know how willing Cashman will be to move him - perhaps he's part of a deal for pitching help this summer if we go that route (hopefully not for Bumgarner... I don't think that's the right move)
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Del Shofner : 5/20/2019 11:31 am : link
In comment 14449771 arcarsenal said:
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I guess what happens with Florial this year as far as when he gets back, how he performs in Trenton, etc. will also determine what the OF depth looks like going forward.


Is there any timetable for Florial's return? Without RAB around any more, I lose track of stuff like this.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2019 11:45 am : link
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I guess what happens with Florial this year as far as when he gets back, how he performs in Trenton, etc. will also determine what the OF depth looks like going forward.



Is there any timetable for Florial's return? Without RAB around any more, I lose track of stuff like this.


I believe he had the cast removed about 2 weeks ago and is supposed to be resuming baseball activities really soon if he hasn't done so at all already.

(Not having RAB anymore really is a bummer)
thank you all for wishing my dad a happy 80th  
Jints in Carolina : 5/20/2019 12:42 pm : link
we had a great time watching the Yankees game and then the end of the PGA Championship. It was a low key day and we enjoyed it a lot.
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Deejboy : 5/20/2019 1:49 pm : link
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Kid is gonna be special.



Got in late so I'm watching the replay. That was some play by Gleyber. I know we shake our heads at some of what he does, but that was Jeter-ian.



There is absolutely no doubt that Torres is special. But he also has to stop making unnecessarily stupid throws especially with Luke at 1st. Luke is very much better picking balls out of the dirt this year compared to last, but he'll never be Mattingly or Tino. Yes some throws get away, but he needs to be certain on his throws and minimize the chance of a bad one.
Maybe a bit of a nit pick, but why take chances.



With Torres, I think a number of the errors come with him being in his early 20's and not having a ton of game experience. Give him 3-4 years and he will learn when to throw, when to hold, and how to "cheat" a step on defense. He will be fine- he just needs to play day in and day out. The skills are there- experience does the rest.

I think to really appreciate Torres you have to compare him to Rosario who is a year older. They had similar prospect rankings coming up. Top 3-5 guys. Keith Law called Rosario the top prospect in baseball in 2017 and MLB.com had him at #2. He was suppose to have MVP talent. So far he has been a huge disappointment. His OPS has never reached .700 and he never developed the power Keith Law thought he would. I believe his WAR is the second worst for a starting IFer in all baseball this year to Travis Shaw but Shaw has the excuse he was probably playing hurt.
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