Why was Tormund at Castle Black? He left for beyond the wall after the fight for WF. I mean I know why, for a Hollywoood send off, but sheesh. A final shot of Jon finding the wildling camp in the mountains would've made more sense.
RE: I'm not a nitpicker but some nits are too much to ignore Â
Why was Tormund at Castle Black? He left for beyond the wall after the fight for WF. I mean I know why, for a Hollywoood send off, but sheesh. A final shot of Jon finding the wildling camp in the mountains would've made more sense.
He said he’d stay there till the winter storms pass
RE: I'm not a nitpicker but some nits are too much to ignore Â
Why was Tormund at Castle Black? He left for beyond the wall after the fight for WF. I mean I know why, for a Hollywoood send off, but sheesh. A final shot of Jon finding the wildling camp in the mountains would've made more sense.
To all here who accuse Joey in VA of merely posting someone’s leaks AFTER he said he didn’t do that.....shame on you! Unless you have concrete proof you should take him at his word. After all, he is our Giant brother here.
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
To all here who accuse Joey in VA of merely posting someone’s leaks AFTER he said he didn’t do that.....shame on you! Unless you have concrete proof you should take him at his word. After all, he is our Giant brother here.
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
I didnt know irony had a smell. Yet here it is, wafting out of my work monitor.
don't really care if guys on a message board agree with me or not. We are having a discussion about a TV show, we all know as much as the other, or atleast have access to the same information. I'm not up on what Joey posted but spoilers have been posted on countless events, shows, movies on BBI so I wouldn't put it past him.
But nothing like showing up on a thread and calling everyone stupid for not figuring it out! I mean, you know the definition of arrogance, don't you?
To all here who accuse Joey in VA of merely posting someone’s leaks AFTER he said he didn’t do that.....shame on you! Unless you have concrete proof you should take him at his word. After all, he is our Giant brother here.
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
Again you come along suck the joy out of everything. Joey knows he lied.
The only thing worse than your Game of Thrones takes are your hockey takes.
You come on here and think you are like the angel on Pinto (Larry Kroger's) shoulder, but you really lack self-awareness.
"For shame BBI, how can you accuse brother Joey of a lie without concrete information as to the veracity of this claim"
and then the devil pops up pinto's shoulder and represents most of the rest of us:
"fuck them, fuck joey, fuck 2toiletbowls, fuck them all, he lied and he knows it"
Why couldn't Jon just be "exiled" to Winterfell? Â
The North was granted its independence, and he could have been made a lord by Queen Sansa.
The Night's Watch sentence just made no sense.
It's a historical punishment. I'm not sure it's one that Greyworm would have recognized, but every other person at the table would have seen it as a punishment and a suitable and common alternative to execution. That point, at least they could have communicated to Greyworm.
The North was granted its independence, and he could have been made a lord by Queen Sansa.
The Night's Watch sentence just made no sense.
It's a historical punishment. I'm not sure it's one that Greyworm would have recognized, but every other person at the table would have seen it as a punishment and a suitable and common alternative to execution. That point, at least they could have communicated to Greyworm.
In fact it's the same punishment Ned Stark recommended for Jaime Lanister for killing Aerys and being a "King Slayer"
like Grey worm, Ned didn't understand the far reaching effects killing the monarch would have and simply viewed the killing as dishonorable.
Robert Baratheon, ironically, pardoned Jaime (due to Tywin's influence), but to avoid further war Bran (and he probably knew in the end it's what Jon wanted) offered no such pardon.
that they are changing the way they rule, but are keeping “taking the black” for criminals? What are they protecting up there anyway?
Maybe not quite the same purpose, but the Wights and White Walkers were myths for hundreds of years until proven, who knows what else is there, plus as Tyrion said:
Quote:
The world will always need a home for bastards and broken men.
but that ending made it clear, at least to me, that bastards won’t be a big deal anymore. I get sending people to the wall for punishment, just seems hamfisted.
RE: Yeah, I am sure Joey came up with that take all on his own Â
I don’t believe the ending was THAT much of a surprise as you seem to believe.
I predicted the following:
1. Dany would die
2. Killed by either Jon or Arya
3. Jon doesn’t want the rule so Tyrion takes over
4. Winterfell doesn’t bend the knee to Tyrion
I didn’t predict John going off with Wildings nor did I predict Bran the Broken as the new ruler.
My point being, most of what happened was predictable. So Joeys predictions were not far fetched. But like I said, to call Joey a dick and a liar is rather presumptous and arrogant and like I said, without any evidence to support, his testimony should be considered golden.
But that is the way I think and reason.
RE: RE: Yeah, I am sure Joey came up with that take all on his own Â
I don’t believe the ending was THAT much of a surprise as you seem to believe.
I predicted the following:
1. Dany would die
2. Killed by either Jon or Arya
3. Jon doesn’t want the rule so Tyrion takes over
4. Winterfell doesn’t bend the knee to Tyrion
I didn’t predict John going off with Wildings nor did I predict Bran the Broken as the new ruler.
My point being, most of what happened was predictable. So Joeys predictions were not far fetched. But like I said, to call Joey a dick and a liar is rather presumptous and arrogant and like I said, without any evidence to support, his testimony should be considered golden.
But that is the way I think and reason.
Without any evidence? It's literally in this thread.
The spoilers came out a year ago. Turns out they were right. Dude waltzes in 2 hours before the finale and gets every single thing dead on and we're supposed to believe that he and his Three Eyed Fiance got lucky.
To all here who accuse Joey in VA of merely posting someone’s leaks AFTER he said he didn’t do that.....shame on you! Unless you have concrete proof you should take him at his word. After all, he is our Giant brother here.
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
Lol who is this fingerwagging apologist? Giant Brother - the fuck? Didn't think it was possible to find a worse post than Joey's gutless scramble lie about an omniscient fiancee and brilliant deductive approach of 'if they ever did everything wrong they die' but here we are. You're right, shame on everyone for reacting to what was likely an attempt at malicious 'humor' or just another example of the bullying 'tough dude' personality he puts here that somehow some people buy.
I don't even care that the story was spoiled (it had already been ruined) it's the principle and the hypocrisy - Joey's revealed enough of his personality over the years here that you know such a spineless person would throw a tantrum if something they cared deeper about was ruined for them. I think this is where you should address arrogance, but tell ya what, I'm definitely arrogant enough to say I know your post was fucking dreadful. I suppose I'll continue down my path of overvaluing my own opinion though, thanks.
Dude waltzes in 2 hours before the finale and gets every single thing dead on and we're supposed to believe that he and his Three Eyed Fiance got lucky.
How stupid do you think people are?
Dude,
I was in the middle of a shit when I read that. Laughed so hard it shot out like a scud missile and the bowl exploded. Water everywhere. Thanks man
To all here who accuse Joey in VA of merely posting someone’s leaks AFTER he said he didn’t do that.....shame on you! Unless you have concrete proof you should take him at his word. After all, he is our Giant brother here.
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
I didnt know irony had a smell. Yet here it is, wafting out of my work monitor.
HA! Perfect!!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yeah, I am sure Joey came up with that take all on his own Â
Dude waltzes in 2 hours before the finale and gets every single thing dead on and we're supposed to believe that he and his Three Eyed Fiance got lucky.
How stupid do you think people are?
Dude,
I was in the middle of a shit when I read that. Laughed so hard it shot out like a scud missile and the bowl exploded. Water everywhere. Thanks man
I absolutely hate the pricks calling us, "You shouldn't hate a show coz you didn't like the ending/Not the ending you wanted".
To all those blindly loving this show, here's why:
It tied absolutely no plot ends whatsoever.
What happened to Arya's "wearing faces" thing?
What happened to the Dorne storyline?
Why did no one speak out when the North wanted to be independent? (esp. The Iron Islands)
Why did Brienne leave the north and come south when she pledged to protect Sansa?
Why does Jon have to take the black when there's like 0 threat anymore?
What about the letters which Varys allegedly sent out?
What is the impact of Jon's parentage now?
What is the state of the Vale?
Why didn't Bran warn Dany about the ambush by Euron? (Don't even get me started on the logic or the execution of the ambush)
And for the people saying, don't be so critical of this show:
It's not being over critical. We've been used to stuff being logically and thematically connected and cohesive. Sloppy, CW style writing is not what made GoT popular. Others have asked for these plot lines which went unaddressed (from a comment by u/Remember- below):
What happened to Meera?
What about Howland Reed?
Why did the NK turn on the Children of the Forest?
What is that symbol the NK uses mean?
Can the NK talk?
Who was the person that they turned into the NK?
Why did the NK look different in the Children of the Forest caves in Dragonstone?
What did Varys here in the fire?
What happened to Nymeria?
Is Jaqen going to try and kill Arya?
Did the faceless men know Arya was going to leave them?
Did Syrio live?
What is the backstory behind Arya's dagger?
What happened to the wildling coalition after they went back north?
What was Bran warging in during episode 3?
Did Bran know this was all going to happen?
What was Edmure doing after the freys were killed?
Why did the iron islands just accept Yara again?
What happened to the prophet from Qaath?
Who/what is the lord of light?
What happened with Illyrio and his scheming?
What was the NK's motivation?
Why did he have to kill Bran himself?
What exactly was the connection between the 3 Eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest?
What happened with Daario?
What happened to Meeren?
What happened to Aastapor and the other slave cities?
How did Qyburn bring back the mountain, was it science or some sort of blood magic?
What happened/is going to happen with the iron bank?
Who is going to be the head of X, Y, Z houses now?
So what is the deal with the brotherhood now?
Who do the lord of light worshipers follow now, Dany or Jon?
Who was Melisandre?
And yes, not all plot lines can be addressed, that is NOT sloppy writing, but NONE of these were addressed and that is what people are calling sloppy writing (not including the character assassinations)
the explanation at the link below is really nice, and also kind of demonstrates why GRRM's writing was so important for the show.
As for Jon, I think it's deliberately ambiguous. In the books it will necessarily be a POV chapter so at least we'll know what he's thinking. I liked the poster's idea that the wall door closing symbolized Jon's end in Westeros proper, but we'll see. He really is a poetically tragic character and the most like Ned of all of his "children." Link - ( New Window )
Some of those questions are super valid and some less so.
Setting aside that the tv show isn't necessarily the right vehicle to address some of them: Do you even think GRRM will address every one even if he finishes all the books? Sometimes authors and tv shows leave things left unsaid on purpose. (The Russian in the Sopranos episode Pine Barrens obviously died, but they left it somewhat open ended, as an example.) And, as another example, I don't want to know what Varys heard in the fire--I like it better as a mystery.
instead of just sent to Winterfell not only to appease Grey Worm, but also to appease Yara, who made it clear that Dany was her queen. She needed satisfaction as well. The Night's Watch has historically been that type of non-lethal punishment.
That list from freefolk is that of someone with an axe to grind. Some of the questions are valid, some don't need answers, and many are just listed in a way that suggests the author would have come up with endless questions no matter what. It reminded me of the way a child asks for an explanation, and then follows every answer with "but why?" until there is an endless pursuit of frustrating the other party.
much of it at least. Why didn't they ask questions about the Bran the broken sigil? Why not the Stark wolf? or what meal was served at his coronation. How can we go on living without knowing if they had eel and trenchers?
Those are book questions mostly not show questions.
What Martin can write in 1000's of pages would take years to demonstrate on film.
Some legit questions that most of us have already raised, but for me they're just things I wonder about when thinking about the show, not things that ruined it.
instead of just sent to Winterfell not only to appease Grey Worm, but also to appease Yara, who made it clear that Dany was her queen. She needed satisfaction as well. The Night's Watch has historically been that type of non-lethal punishment.
Banished to a kingdom that they no longer control. What motivation does Sansa have to enforce that punishment for the 6 Kingdoms against her cousin?
And why is there even a Night's Watch now?
81 details in GoT Season 8 that you may have missed Â
I absolutely hate the pricks calling us, "You shouldn't hate a show coz you didn't like the ending/Not the ending you wanted".
To all those blindly loving this show, here's why:
It tied absolutely no plot ends whatsoever.
What happened to Arya's "wearing faces" thing?
What happened to the Dorne storyline?
Why did no one speak out when the North wanted to be independent? (esp. The Iron Islands)
Why did Brienne leave the north and come south when she pledged to protect Sansa?
Why does Jon have to take the black when there's like 0 threat anymore?
What about the letters which Varys allegedly sent out?
What is the impact of Jon's parentage now?
What is the state of the Vale?
Why didn't Bran warn Dany about the ambush by Euron? (Don't even get me started on the logic or the execution of the ambush)
And for the people saying, don't be so critical of this show:
It's not being over critical. We've been used to stuff being logically and thematically connected and cohesive. Sloppy, CW style writing is not what made GoT popular. Others have asked for these plot lines which went unaddressed (from a comment by u/Remember- below):
What happened to Meera?
What about Howland Reed?
Why did the NK turn on the Children of the Forest?
What is that symbol the NK uses mean?
Can the NK talk?
Who was the person that they turned into the NK?
Why did the NK look different in the Children of the Forest caves in Dragonstone?
What did Varys here in the fire?
What happened to Nymeria?
Is Jaqen going to try and kill Arya?
Did the faceless men know Arya was going to leave them?
Did Syrio live?
What is the backstory behind Arya's dagger?
What happened to the wildling coalition after they went back north?
What was Bran warging in during episode 3?
Did Bran know this was all going to happen?
What was Edmure doing after the freys were killed?
Why did the iron islands just accept Yara again?
What happened to the prophet from Qaath?
Who/what is the lord of light?
What happened with Illyrio and his scheming?
What was the NK's motivation?
Why did he have to kill Bran himself?
What exactly was the connection between the 3 Eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest?
What happened with Daario?
What happened to Meeren?
What happened to Aastapor and the other slave cities?
How did Qyburn bring back the mountain, was it science or some sort of blood magic?
What happened/is going to happen with the iron bank?
Who is going to be the head of X, Y, Z houses now?
So what is the deal with the brotherhood now?
Who do the lord of light worshipers follow now, Dany or Jon?
Who was Melisandre?
And yes, not all plot lines can be addressed, that is NOT sloppy writing, but NONE of these were addressed and that is what people are calling sloppy writing (not including the character assassinations)
Those are some of the silliest, most ridiculous questions/gripes I’ve read to date.
What happened to Nymeria? Who was Melisandre?
Reminds me of my ex sister in law that once complained to me about the ending of Miracle on 54th St, “I hate it when they end movie like that. I wish they showed how they all lived together as a family in the new house!”
Holy no imagination, Batman.
Sure, the writing of this last season wasn’t up to par, but give me a fucking break.
Was the ending that they moved 20 blocks north and had another Miracle Â
after next week's "Behind the Thrones" episode? Not much keeping me with HBO since Thrones is over, I've gone through Sharp Objects, etc. and just about any documentaries that interested me.
after next week's "Behind the Thrones" episode? Not much keeping me with HBO since Thrones is over, I've gone through Sharp Objects, etc. and just about any documentaries that interested me.
Is the Deadwood movie going to be only on HBO?
Would be worth keeping until then (for me).
I also like The Deuce, Succession (another season?) and Silicon Valley but they might not get me to keep it.
after next week's "Behind the Thrones" episode? Not much keeping me with HBO since Thrones is over, I've gone through Sharp Objects, etc. and just about any documentaries that interested me.
I've heard really good things about Chernobyl and Barry. I'm also hopeful for Westworld season 3.
after next week's "Behind the Thrones" episode? Not much keeping me with HBO since Thrones is over, I've gone through Sharp Objects, etc. and just about any documentaries that interested me.
Gonna finish Chernobyl and see Deadwood. After that...probably not.
after next week's "Behind the Thrones" episode? Not much keeping me with HBO since Thrones is over, I've gone through Sharp Objects, etc. and just about any documentaries that interested me.
He said he’d stay there till the winter storms pass
The Wallshank Redemption?
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
I didnt know irony had a smell. Yet here it is, wafting out of my work monitor.
But nothing like showing up on a thread and calling everyone stupid for not figuring it out! I mean, you know the definition of arrogance, don't you?
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
Again you come along suck the joy out of everything. Joey knows he lied.
The only thing worse than your Game of Thrones takes are your hockey takes.
You come on here and think you are like the angel on Pinto (Larry Kroger's) shoulder, but you really lack self-awareness.
"For shame BBI, how can you accuse brother Joey of a lie without concrete information as to the veracity of this claim"
and then the devil pops up pinto's shoulder and represents most of the rest of us:
"fuck them, fuck joey, fuck 2toiletbowls, fuck them all, he lied and he knows it"
The Night's Watch sentence just made no sense.
The Night's Watch sentence just made no sense.
It's a historical punishment. I'm not sure it's one that Greyworm would have recognized, but every other person at the table would have seen it as a punishment and a suitable and common alternative to execution. That point, at least they could have communicated to Greyworm.
Quote:
The North was granted its independence, and he could have been made a lord by Queen Sansa.
The Night's Watch sentence just made no sense.
It's a historical punishment. I'm not sure it's one that Greyworm would have recognized, but every other person at the table would have seen it as a punishment and a suitable and common alternative to execution. That point, at least they could have communicated to Greyworm.
In fact it's the same punishment Ned Stark recommended for Jaime Lanister for killing Aerys and being a "King Slayer"
like Grey worm, Ned didn't understand the far reaching effects killing the monarch would have and simply viewed the killing as dishonorable.
Robert Baratheon, ironically, pardoned Jaime (due to Tywin's influence), but to avoid further war Bran (and he probably knew in the end it's what Jon wanted) offered no such pardon.
Maybe not quite the same purpose, but the Wights and White Walkers were myths for hundreds of years until proven, who knows what else is there, plus as Tyrion said:
I don’t believe the ending was THAT much of a surprise as you seem to believe.
I predicted the following:
1. Dany would die
2. Killed by either Jon or Arya
3. Jon doesn’t want the rule so Tyrion takes over
4. Winterfell doesn’t bend the knee to Tyrion
I didn’t predict John going off with Wildings nor did I predict Bran the Broken as the new ruler.
My point being, most of what happened was predictable. So Joeys predictions were not far fetched. But like I said, to call Joey a dick and a liar is rather presumptous and arrogant and like I said, without any evidence to support, his testimony should be considered golden.
But that is the way I think and reason.
Quote:
Come on, dude did it to be a dick.
I don’t believe the ending was THAT much of a surprise as you seem to believe.
I predicted the following:
1. Dany would die
2. Killed by either Jon or Arya
3. Jon doesn’t want the rule so Tyrion takes over
4. Winterfell doesn’t bend the knee to Tyrion
I didn’t predict John going off with Wildings nor did I predict Bran the Broken as the new ruler.
My point being, most of what happened was predictable. So Joeys predictions were not far fetched. But like I said, to call Joey a dick and a liar is rather presumptous and arrogant and like I said, without any evidence to support, his testimony should be considered golden.
But that is the way I think and reason.
Without any evidence? It's literally in this thread.
The spoilers came out a year ago. Turns out they were right. Dude waltzes in 2 hours before the finale and gets every single thing dead on and we're supposed to believe that he and his Three Eyed Fiance got lucky.
How stupid do you think people are?
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
Lol who is this fingerwagging apologist? Giant Brother - the fuck? Didn't think it was possible to find a worse post than Joey's gutless scramble lie about an omniscient fiancee and brilliant deductive approach of 'if they ever did everything wrong they die' but here we are. You're right, shame on everyone for reacting to what was likely an attempt at malicious 'humor' or just another example of the bullying 'tough dude' personality he puts here that somehow some people buy.
I don't even care that the story was spoiled (it had already been ruined) it's the principle and the hypocrisy - Joey's revealed enough of his personality over the years here that you know such a spineless person would throw a tantrum if something they cared deeper about was ruined for them. I think this is where you should address arrogance, but tell ya what, I'm definitely arrogant enough to say I know your post was fucking dreadful. I suppose I'll continue down my path of overvaluing my own opinion though, thanks.
Dude waltzes in 2 hours before the finale and gets every single thing dead on and we're supposed to believe that he and his Three Eyed Fiance got lucky.
How stupid do you think people are?
Dude,
I was in the middle of a shit when I read that. Laughed so hard it shot out like a scud missile and the bowl exploded. Water everywhere. Thanks man
Quote:
To all here who accuse Joey in VA of merely posting someone’s leaks AFTER he said he didn’t do that.....shame on you! Unless you have concrete proof you should take him at his word. After all, he is our Giant brother here.
You guys are too arrogant and think you know it all, which is a lot more than you actually do know. Not to mention you value your opinions much more than everyone else’s.
Listen up mates if this applies to you.....it is not a very attractive trait. You might want to rethink what you are communicating to the public in this manner. The only people will approve are people just like you.....
I didnt know irony had a smell. Yet here it is, wafting out of my work monitor.
HA! Perfect!!
Quote:
In comment Giants in 07 said:
Dude waltzes in 2 hours before the finale and gets every single thing dead on and we're supposed to believe that he and his Three Eyed Fiance got lucky.
How stupid do you think people are?
Dude,
I was in the middle of a shit when I read that. Laughed so hard it shot out like a scud missile and the bowl exploded. Water everywhere. Thanks man
TMI
r/freefolk - ( New Window )
Love this from there:
I absolutely hate the pricks calling us, "You shouldn't hate a show coz you didn't like the ending/Not the ending you wanted".
To all those blindly loving this show, here's why:
It tied absolutely no plot ends whatsoever.
What happened to Arya's "wearing faces" thing?
What happened to the Dorne storyline?
Why did no one speak out when the North wanted to be independent? (esp. The Iron Islands)
Why did Brienne leave the north and come south when she pledged to protect Sansa?
Why does Jon have to take the black when there's like 0 threat anymore?
What about the letters which Varys allegedly sent out?
What is the impact of Jon's parentage now?
What is the state of the Vale?
Why didn't Bran warn Dany about the ambush by Euron? (Don't even get me started on the logic or the execution of the ambush)
And for the people saying, don't be so critical of this show:
It's not being over critical. We've been used to stuff being logically and thematically connected and cohesive. Sloppy, CW style writing is not what made GoT popular. Others have asked for these plot lines which went unaddressed (from a comment by u/Remember- below):
What happened to Meera?
What about Howland Reed?
Why did the NK turn on the Children of the Forest?
What is that symbol the NK uses mean?
Can the NK talk?
Who was the person that they turned into the NK?
Why did the NK look different in the Children of the Forest caves in Dragonstone?
What did Varys here in the fire?
What happened to Nymeria?
Is Jaqen going to try and kill Arya?
Did the faceless men know Arya was going to leave them?
Did Syrio live?
What is the backstory behind Arya's dagger?
What happened to the wildling coalition after they went back north?
What was Bran warging in during episode 3?
Did Bran know this was all going to happen?
What was Edmure doing after the freys were killed?
Why did the iron islands just accept Yara again?
What happened to the prophet from Qaath?
Who/what is the lord of light?
What happened with Illyrio and his scheming?
What was the NK's motivation?
Why did he have to kill Bran himself?
What exactly was the connection between the 3 Eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest?
What happened with Daario?
What happened to Meeren?
What happened to Aastapor and the other slave cities?
How did Qyburn bring back the mountain, was it science or some sort of blood magic?
What happened/is going to happen with the iron bank?
Who is going to be the head of X, Y, Z houses now?
So what is the deal with the brotherhood now?
Who do the lord of light worshipers follow now, Dany or Jon?
Who was Melisandre?
And yes, not all plot lines can be addressed, that is NOT sloppy writing, but NONE of these were addressed and that is what people are calling sloppy writing (not including the character assassinations)
As for Jon, I think it's deliberately ambiguous. In the books it will necessarily be a POV chapter so at least we'll know what he's thinking. I liked the poster's idea that the wall door closing symbolized Jon's end in Westeros proper, but we'll see. He really is a poetically tragic character and the most like Ned of all of his "children."
Link - ( New Window )
Setting aside that the tv show isn't necessarily the right vehicle to address some of them: Do you even think GRRM will address every one even if he finishes all the books? Sometimes authors and tv shows leave things left unsaid on purpose. (The Russian in the Sopranos episode Pine Barrens obviously died, but they left it somewhat open ended, as an example.) And, as another example, I don't want to know what Varys heard in the fire--I like it better as a mystery.
That list from freefolk is that of someone with an axe to grind. Some of the questions are valid, some don't need answers, and many are just listed in a way that suggests the author would have come up with endless questions no matter what. It reminded me of the way a child asks for an explanation, and then follows every answer with "but why?" until there is an endless pursuit of frustrating the other party.
Those are book questions mostly not show questions.
What Martin can write in 1000's of pages would take years to demonstrate on film.
Some legit questions that most of us have already raised, but for me they're just things I wonder about when thinking about the show, not things that ruined it.
Banished to a kingdom that they no longer control. What motivation does Sansa have to enforce that punishment for the 6 Kingdoms against her cousin?
And why is there even a Night's Watch now?
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Love this from there:
I absolutely hate the pricks calling us, "You shouldn't hate a show coz you didn't like the ending/Not the ending you wanted".
To all those blindly loving this show, here's why:
It tied absolutely no plot ends whatsoever.
What happened to Arya's "wearing faces" thing?
What happened to the Dorne storyline?
Why did no one speak out when the North wanted to be independent? (esp. The Iron Islands)
Why did Brienne leave the north and come south when she pledged to protect Sansa?
Why does Jon have to take the black when there's like 0 threat anymore?
What about the letters which Varys allegedly sent out?
What is the impact of Jon's parentage now?
What is the state of the Vale?
Why didn't Bran warn Dany about the ambush by Euron? (Don't even get me started on the logic or the execution of the ambush)
And for the people saying, don't be so critical of this show:
It's not being over critical. We've been used to stuff being logically and thematically connected and cohesive. Sloppy, CW style writing is not what made GoT popular. Others have asked for these plot lines which went unaddressed (from a comment by u/Remember- below):
What happened to Meera?
What about Howland Reed?
Why did the NK turn on the Children of the Forest?
What is that symbol the NK uses mean?
Can the NK talk?
Who was the person that they turned into the NK?
Why did the NK look different in the Children of the Forest caves in Dragonstone?
What did Varys here in the fire?
What happened to Nymeria?
Is Jaqen going to try and kill Arya?
Did the faceless men know Arya was going to leave them?
Did Syrio live?
What is the backstory behind Arya's dagger?
What happened to the wildling coalition after they went back north?
What was Bran warging in during episode 3?
Did Bran know this was all going to happen?
What was Edmure doing after the freys were killed?
Why did the iron islands just accept Yara again?
What happened to the prophet from Qaath?
Who/what is the lord of light?
What happened with Illyrio and his scheming?
What was the NK's motivation?
Why did he have to kill Bran himself?
What exactly was the connection between the 3 Eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest?
What happened with Daario?
What happened to Meeren?
What happened to Aastapor and the other slave cities?
How did Qyburn bring back the mountain, was it science or some sort of blood magic?
What happened/is going to happen with the iron bank?
Who is going to be the head of X, Y, Z houses now?
So what is the deal with the brotherhood now?
Who do the lord of light worshipers follow now, Dany or Jon?
Who was Melisandre?
And yes, not all plot lines can be addressed, that is NOT sloppy writing, but NONE of these were addressed and that is what people are calling sloppy writing (not including the character assassinations)
Those are some of the silliest, most ridiculous questions/gripes I’ve read to date.
What happened to Nymeria? Who was Melisandre?
Reminds me of my ex sister in law that once complained to me about the ending of Miracle on 54th St, “I hate it when they end movie like that. I wish they showed how they all lived together as a family in the new house!”
Holy no imagination, Batman.
Sure, the writing of this last season wasn’t up to par, but give me a fucking break.
54, 34, whatever it takes.
Is the Deadwood movie going to be only on HBO?
Would be worth keeping until then (for me).
I also like The Deuce, Succession (another season?) and Silicon Valley but they might not get me to keep it.
Curb I think has another season coming out.
I did want to catch Chernobyl too.
I've heard really good things about Chernobyl and Barry. I'm also hopeful for Westworld season 3.
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Hahaha, was just about to post this
Its really what this season felt like, just an epic blunder that's even more revealing after watching that, haha. Atleast I got to laugh this season.
Gonna finish Chernobyl and see Deadwood. After that...probably not.
Sadly, that’s pretty spot on
Nope but I get it for free anyways with at&t