they absolutely butt fumbled the finish of this story. The speed which with they moved through the final plot points was ridiculous and as a result any foreshadowing had the subtly of a sledgehammer.
They were never going to go out guns blazing - that would just have us making comparisons to Episode 2 and Episode 5.
As they wrapped up the scene with the small council, and all the guys arguing with each other, I did kinda get a Seinfeld, "jail cell" vibe.
I'll bet you anything HBO does a feature where we get some continuation of the story, like they did for Deadwood. Hopefully not making us wait 15 years to see it.
Dany was basically Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Â
master of Whispers. That could have been a cooler alternative than her just going off to do whatever aimlessly.
Not the worst ending. Knew what was going to happen with Dany and it had to be Jon. A little disappointing it wasn’t him ruling he is the last Targaryen, would be a dissapointing way for his arc to go if that is how it is in the book.
Just feel that this show was at its peak when it actually ran a little slow. We had he beat writing and acting, best character developments, and it is what made this show what it was. The past 2 seasons where the pace picked up and the show got beyond the material of the books a lot suffered and it became obvious. Certainly wasn’t awful, he’ll I kept watching, but it’s more like their were 2 eras for this show after a certain point.
RE: As someone that has spent the last 25yrs in a steel foundry, Â
punish Jon? Sure why not, the audience is fucking stupid anyway.
Not quite. Only the people who knew Jon cared for him being treated leniently. The rest of Westeros is still operating under the idea that killing a king/queen is bad no matter who it is. Yara was another person that spoke up about this - it wasn't just the unsullied.
master of Whispers. That could have been a cooler alternative than her just going off to do whatever aimlessly.
Not the worst ending. Knew what was going to happen with Dany and it had to be Jon. A little disappointing it wasn’t him ruling he is the last Targaryen, would be a dissapointing way for his arc to go if that is how it is in the book.
Just feel that this show was at its peak when it actually ran a little slow. We had he beat writing and acting, best character developments, and it is what made this show what it was. The past 2 seasons where the pace picked up and the show got beyond the material of the books a lot suffered and it became obvious. Certainly wasn’t awful, he’ll I kept watching, but it’s more like their were 2 eras for this show after a certain point.
Agreed about the eras. The Martin era and the Hollywood era.
'I like how all the lords of the other kingdoms unanimously agreed that a Stark should be king AND the North should be independent and also ruled by Starks, and never once argued in favor of their own interests. Stark supremacy and Northern-exclusive independence just made sense to everyone, I guess. '
'Dragons understand the concept of symbolism confirmed.'
'I legitimately can't believe how quickly they breezed over Daenerys's death, one of the most important characters in the entire series. The scene IMMEDIATELY following her being stabbed to death had an almost laughably relaxed tone, everyone just sitting around casually shooting the shit about who to pick to replace her. It was literally meant to be a comedy scene with like 3 or 4 jokes and almost zero mention of Daenerys. That is a comically jarring decision by the writers that completely decimated any emotional impact her death may have had. Was this written by a middle schooler?'
The show was exactly what it was. A series started by a creative novelist who hooked us all onto something fresh and lured in people who love books, and then had the baton passed to tv writers who focused on viewers and what’s worked in the past and gave us a medieval “Rich Man, Poor Man”.
The writers were in an unenviable position...
pleasing everyone.
Maybe they should have talked with the writer of BREAKING BAD, Vince Gillian I think his name is. One of the Best final seasons and final episode in a tv series I’ve seen.
RE: Epic episode. Dany's death scene had a beautiful and painful Â
I think the hallmark of the entire show from beginning to end will be the characters and the interaction between the characters. For most of the series, the "plot" felt like more natural background to the interplay by the characters. Part of the problem for the last season was the pacing. That was my biggest criticism, followed by there were better ways to get from one point of the story to the other.
But the final season was always going to have the structural issue that THE PLOT was going to have to overtake the character interplay because they had to wrap this up. I think that's why it FELT different to so many. (And that indirectly affected the pacing).
What I will remember most about this series is how they made these fictional characters mean something to the viewer. It felt natural and real. Very few characters were pure good (Brienne) or evil (Ramseys, Joffre). Most were shades of gray. Many ended up being tragic figures. But that's kind of like how life really is.
RE: Dany was basically Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Â
Fine. I can dig that. And like I said, I liked how Cersei and Jaime died in each other's arms. It was a nice touch.
Jon's ending? Garbage.
Arya? Suiting, but boring.
Sansa? Predictable.
Tyrion? Boring.
And Bronn comes out of nowhere and is a good guy again. Cool.
What else could you really want for Sansa and Tyrion? Unless he's ruling over Casterly Rock, hand of the king is about the best Tyrion could do at this point. Like Bran said, he kind of deserves it. Can't be upset about him being in that spot. What would unpredictable be for him? Killed off? Then you'd really see people in an uproar and it would seem like they're only doing it for shock value, not for the story.
I saw lots of people saying they wanted Sansa on the iron throne. That was never going to happen but she ends up as Queen in the north. Which is where she belongs, really. What would be unpredictable for her aside from being queen of the seven kingdoms? Which was never going to happen unless you thought Bran would be king in the north. You could maybe swap them but that's about it.
'I like how all the lords of the other kingdoms unanimously agreed that a Stark should be king AND the North should be independent and also ruled by Starks, and never once argued in favor of their own interests. Stark supremacy and Northern-exclusive independence just made sense to everyone, I guess. '
'Dragons understand the concept of symbolism confirmed.'
'I legitimately can't believe how quickly they breezed over Daenerys's death, one of the most important characters in the entire series. The scene IMMEDIATELY following her being stabbed to death had an almost laughably relaxed tone, everyone just sitting around casually shooting the shit about who to pick to replace her. It was literally meant to be a comedy scene with like 3 or 4 jokes and almost zero mention of Daenerys. That is a comically jarring decision by the writers that completely decimated any emotional impact her death may have had. Was this written by a middle schooler?'
I feel you on this post. As for Winterfell being special, it just had to be that way. They never did want to bend the knee to anyone so they got what they always wanted. Like you said, the other thrones obviously don’t care like they do. Don’t ask me why not? I asked the same question to my wife and she didn’t have an answer either.
Maybe they should have talked with the writer of BREAKING BAD, Vince Gillian I think his name is. One of the Best final seasons and final episode in a tv series I’ve seen.
I seem to recall a lot of people bitching about the final season of Breaking Bad too. And The Wire and The Sopranos. Maybe that's just something we do. Maybe the writing has no choice but to fall off after several seasons.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
I railed against three three of the six episodes this season, but I strongly feel that a mob mentality has taken over regarding this show now
The same mob that absolutely adored this show for almost a decade? Why was their opinion valid in the beginning but isn't now?
The answer that appears to me is....Eric is calling those who don’t like some episodes that he likes .....the mob. I don’t think he would be calling us the mob if he disliked the writing as much as we have.
So apparently if you’re a deceitful backstabbing weasel, Â
That was the only thing about the episode that sort of pissed me off. Jon rides north with the Freefolk, right into the area where the first massacre took place in S1E1. The showrunners could easily have tossed us a bone with a visual reference to the spirals. Even if it was a Rosebud-style letdown, we would have gotten something.
I railed against three three of the six episodes this season, but I strongly feel that a mob mentality has taken over regarding this show now
The same mob that absolutely adored this show for almost a decade? Why was their opinion valid in the beginning but isn't now?
The same mob often blindly rejected ANY criticism. You saw it here on BBI, not just social media platforms across the net. As if on cue, the mob seems to have determined that the popular thing now is to bash the show. Despite the multitudes of warnings about Dany (which Tyrion ACTUALLY highlight in TONIGHT'S episode) you have millions of people out there who can't accept the obvious realistic path she took... it's like they somehow are personally offended by it all... very bizarre.
From beginning to end, Game of Thrones was a treat. And it's one of the very few series I have and will re-watch multiple times.
RE: RE: RE: Did I love it? No. Was it horrible? No. Â
Maybe they should have talked with the writer of BREAKING BAD, Vince Gillian I think his name is. One of the Best final seasons and final episode in a tv series I’ve seen.
I seem to recall a lot of people bitching about the final season of Breaking Bad too. And The Wire and The Sopranos. Maybe that's just something we do. Maybe the writing has no choice but to fall off after several seasons.
Not the entire seasons. Hating an ending is a given for at least half an audience. Hating every aspect of a season is a whole other ball of wax. Sopranos final season was epic. The end wasn’t what everyone wanted. But that was only the last five seconds of the show. Not 6 episodes.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
So why did the show keep making a big deal of something that is never explained?
at least his vote was credible: He goes along with whatever Yohn Royce does. “Um, yeah... King Bran? OK, whatever. Hey, can you get Cousin Sansa’s number for me?”
because her death was very anti climatic - and it seemed a little inconsistent that she was so trusting of him at that moment after feeling betrayed by him.
And Tyrion's speech was a little too "explainy" about why Bran should be King - that scene could have been done more smoothly. But overall I liked the rest of the episode.
Glad that they brought back some characters that we thought we wouldn't see again after episode 4, including Ghost. Tyrion hosting the counsil meeting with Davos, Bronn, Sam, Brienne was really entertaining.
Eric I don't really see how believe your contrarianism Â
is the enlightened position - this was abjectly terrible and sometimes the mob is correct. You are cartwheeling explanations in there about massive plot holes as if people already decided they were going to hate it and therefore don't see the 'brilliance' which set things up but the reality is the showrunners wanted to fuck off to Star Wars and put a perfunctory effort into ending what could've been the best show put to television.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
So why did the show keep making a big deal of something that is never explained?
I think we're getting a feature in a few years. Drogon carrying Dany off was just weird. Maybe she comes back as the Ice Queen. That'd be bad ass.
I didn't recognize Robin Arryn without his mom's boob Â
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
So why did the show keep making a big deal of something that is never explained?
I think they showed the pattern maybe 3 or 4 times over the course of the series. I never thought it was a big deal - just figured that it was some sort of trademark that they tend leave.
that GRRM had NO IDEA how this was going to end. He kept going off on tangents in the books, and I very much doubt that he'll ever finish the books. So the HBO writers did what HBO writers do, they cobbled together some BS ending that sort of, kind of, if you overlook a lot of things makes sense ending. Can't blame the series for ending up rather lame when GRRM has no vision on the ending.
RE: Eric I don't really see how believe your contrarianism Â
is the enlightened position - this was abjectly terrible and sometimes the mob is correct. You are cartwheeling explanations in there about massive plot holes as if people already decided they were going to hate it and therefore don't see the 'brilliance' which set things up but the reality is the showrunners wanted to fuck off to Star Wars and put a perfunctory effort into ending what could've been the best show put to television.
Nitro, I'm pretty sure you went into tonight's season finale already convinced it would suck.
I enjoyed it. Others on this thread did as well. You didn't. Others didn't as well.
I suspect the appeal of this show will only grow with time after about a 6-month bitch-fest.
I didn't hate it given what's led up to it, but it did kinda go downhill after Dany was killed. The only things I really hated were the choosing of the king and then the small council. They took something serious and made it a joke. Edmure Tully made a mistake in battle and now he's George Costanza. The only members of the small council that made sense was Davos and Sam. WTF qualifies Bronn for master of coin? What's the point of being the lord of the richest land (which earlier they say is somehow completely empty), if you are stuck in King's Landing. I know they wanted a farewell for the character, but that was an awful scene even if you ignore the logic issues.
that GRRM had NO IDEA how this was going to end. He kept going off on tangents in the books, and I very much doubt that he'll ever finish the books. So the HBO writers did what HBO writers do, they cobbled together some BS ending that sort of, kind of, if you overlook a lot of things makes sense ending. Can't blame the series for ending up rather lame when GRRM has no vision on the ending.
The author has been a consultant on the series. The foreshadowing of the end was there in the earlier seasons.
The same mob often blindly rejected ANY criticism. You saw it here on BBI, not just social media platforms across the net. As if on cue, the mob seems to have determined that the popular thing now is to bash the show. Despite the multitudes of warnings about Dany (which Tyrion ACTUALLY highlight in TONIGHT'S episode) you have millions of people out there who can't accept the obvious realistic path she took... it's like they somehow are personally offended by it all... very bizarre.
1. I think the simpler explanation is that the show just declined substantially in quality. That same mob probably watched Breaking Bad. Where was the mass outcry when that ended? Some weren't completely satisfied, but the overall reviews for the final season and the series were outstanding. It was a well written show that didn't leave any loose ends, didn't build characters for years only to fumble for an ending. The reviews for GoT final two seasons, professionals and fans, are mixed at best. By the way, the mob includes the cast of the show.
2. While many are shocked and upset by Dany, I would argue more people are in the camp that the show generally just did a poor job bringing everything to the screen. There was a building criticism of the show from last season until before Dany turned. How do you explain that? That's not just emotional attachment to one character.
RE: RE: Eric I don't really see how believe your contrarianism Â
is the enlightened position - this was abjectly terrible and sometimes the mob is correct. You are cartwheeling explanations in there about massive plot holes as if people already decided they were going to hate it and therefore don't see the 'brilliance' which set things up but the reality is the showrunners wanted to fuck off to Star Wars and put a perfunctory effort into ending what could've been the best show put to television.
Nitro, I'm pretty sure you went into tonight's season finale already convinced it would suck.
I enjoyed it. Others on this thread did as well. You didn't. Others didn't as well.
I suspect the appeal of this show will only grow with time after about a 6-month bitch-fest.
I think the people who hated it for the sake of hating it are matched by those who liked it for the sake of liking it. I’m pretty agnostic but I do feel that to really come out of it liking it, you have to put aside any inquisitiveness whatsoever and just like it because they gave it to you.
As they wrapped up the scene with the small council, and all the guys arguing with each other, I did kinda get a Seinfeld, "jail cell" vibe.
I'll bet you anything HBO does a feature where we get some continuation of the story, like they did for Deadwood. Hopefully not making us wait 15 years to see it.
Jon's ending? Garbage.
Arya? Suiting, but boring.
Sansa? Predictable.
Tyrion? Boring.
And Bronn comes out of nowhere and is a good guy again. Cool.
A+ from me.
It's not even worth the effort listing all the reasons to mock this episode.
Not the worst ending. Knew what was going to happen with Dany and it had to be Jon. A little disappointing it wasn’t him ruling he is the last Targaryen, would be a dissapointing way for his arc to go if that is how it is in the book.
Just feel that this show was at its peak when it actually ran a little slow. We had he beat writing and acting, best character developments, and it is what made this show what it was. The past 2 seasons where the pace picked up and the show got beyond the material of the books a lot suffered and it became obvious. Certainly wasn’t awful, he’ll I kept watching, but it’s more like their were 2 eras for this show after a certain point.
A+ from me.
LOL.
pleasing everyone.
They apparently were cool with their queen being murdered and were given unemployment benefits and a ferry ticket home.
Most people are not upset about the individual outcomes but that the writing that led to these outcomes was not believable.
Not quite. Only the people who knew Jon cared for him being treated leniently. The rest of Westeros is still operating under the idea that killing a king/queen is bad no matter who it is. Yara was another person that spoke up about this - it wasn't just the unsullied.
Not the worst ending. Knew what was going to happen with Dany and it had to be Jon. A little disappointing it wasn’t him ruling he is the last Targaryen, would be a dissapointing way for his arc to go if that is how it is in the book.
Just feel that this show was at its peak when it actually ran a little slow. We had he beat writing and acting, best character developments, and it is what made this show what it was. The past 2 seasons where the pace picked up and the show got beyond the material of the books a lot suffered and it became obvious. Certainly wasn’t awful, he’ll I kept watching, but it’s more like their were 2 eras for this show after a certain point.
Agreed about the eras. The Martin era and the Hollywood era.
pleasing everyone.
So they pleased no one? Cool. Good compromise.
'Dragons understand the concept of symbolism confirmed.'
'I legitimately can't believe how quickly they breezed over Daenerys's death, one of the most important characters in the entire series. The scene IMMEDIATELY following her being stabbed to death had an almost laughably relaxed tone, everyone just sitting around casually shooting the shit about who to pick to replace her. It was literally meant to be a comedy scene with like 3 or 4 jokes and almost zero mention of Daenerys. That is a comically jarring decision by the writers that completely decimated any emotional impact her death may have had. Was this written by a middle schooler?'
Sometimes things are what they really are.
pleasing everyone.
Maybe they should have talked with the writer of BREAKING BAD, Vince Gillian I think his name is. One of the Best final seasons and final episode in a tv series I’ve seen.
I think the hallmark of the entire show from beginning to end will be the characters and the interaction between the characters. For most of the series, the "plot" felt like more natural background to the interplay by the characters. Part of the problem for the last season was the pacing. That was my biggest criticism, followed by there were better ways to get from one point of the story to the other.
But the final season was always going to have the structural issue that THE PLOT was going to have to overtake the character interplay because they had to wrap this up. I think that's why it FELT different to so many. (And that indirectly affected the pacing).
What I will remember most about this series is how they made these fictional characters mean something to the viewer. It felt natural and real. Very few characters were pure good (Brienne) or evil (Ramseys, Joffre). Most were shades of gray. Many ended up being tragic figures. But that's kind of like how life really is.
Jon's ending? Garbage.
Arya? Suiting, but boring.
Sansa? Predictable.
Tyrion? Boring.
And Bronn comes out of nowhere and is a good guy again. Cool.
What else could you really want for Sansa and Tyrion? Unless he's ruling over Casterly Rock, hand of the king is about the best Tyrion could do at this point. Like Bran said, he kind of deserves it. Can't be upset about him being in that spot. What would unpredictable be for him? Killed off? Then you'd really see people in an uproar and it would seem like they're only doing it for shock value, not for the story.
I saw lots of people saying they wanted Sansa on the iron throne. That was never going to happen but she ends up as Queen in the north. Which is where she belongs, really. What would be unpredictable for her aside from being queen of the seven kingdoms? Which was never going to happen unless you thought Bran would be king in the north. You could maybe swap them but that's about it.
'Dragons understand the concept of symbolism confirmed.'
'I legitimately can't believe how quickly they breezed over Daenerys's death, one of the most important characters in the entire series. The scene IMMEDIATELY following her being stabbed to death had an almost laughably relaxed tone, everyone just sitting around casually shooting the shit about who to pick to replace her. It was literally meant to be a comedy scene with like 3 or 4 jokes and almost zero mention of Daenerys. That is a comically jarring decision by the writers that completely decimated any emotional impact her death may have had. Was this written by a middle schooler?'
I feel you on this post. As for Winterfell being special, it just had to be that way. They never did want to bend the knee to anyone so they got what they always wanted. Like you said, the other thrones obviously don’t care like they do. Don’t ask me why not? I asked the same question to my wife and she didn’t have an answer either.
Maybe they should have talked with the writer of BREAKING BAD, Vince Gillian I think his name is. One of the Best final seasons and final episode in a tv series I’ve seen.
I seem to recall a lot of people bitching about the final season of Breaking Bad too. And The Wire and The Sopranos. Maybe that's just something we do. Maybe the writing has no choice but to fall off after several seasons.
I railed against three three of the six episodes this season, but I strongly feel that a mob mentality has taken over regarding this show now
The same mob that absolutely adored this show for almost a decade? Why was their opinion valid in the beginning but isn't now?
Punishing Jon was spectacularly idiotic. He goes from THE true heir to...the Night's Watch?
Lol, ok. Whatevs.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
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To those circular patterns.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show
add it to the list....
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I railed against three three of the six episodes this season, but I strongly feel that a mob mentality has taken over regarding this show now
The same mob that absolutely adored this show for almost a decade? Why was their opinion valid in the beginning but isn't now?
The answer that appears to me is....Eric is calling those who don’t like some episodes that he likes .....the mob. I don’t think he would be calling us the mob if he disliked the writing as much as we have.
That was the only thing about the episode that sort of pissed me off. Jon rides north with the Freefolk, right into the area where the first massacre took place in S1E1. The showrunners could easily have tossed us a bone with a visual reference to the spirals. Even if it was a Rosebud-style letdown, we would have gotten something.
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I railed against three three of the six episodes this season, but I strongly feel that a mob mentality has taken over regarding this show now
The same mob that absolutely adored this show for almost a decade? Why was their opinion valid in the beginning but isn't now?
The same mob often blindly rejected ANY criticism. You saw it here on BBI, not just social media platforms across the net. As if on cue, the mob seems to have determined that the popular thing now is to bash the show. Despite the multitudes of warnings about Dany (which Tyrion ACTUALLY highlight in TONIGHT'S episode) you have millions of people out there who can't accept the obvious realistic path she took... it's like they somehow are personally offended by it all... very bizarre.
From beginning to end, Game of Thrones was a treat. And it's one of the very few series I have and will re-watch multiple times.
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Maybe they should have talked with the writer of BREAKING BAD, Vince Gillian I think his name is. One of the Best final seasons and final episode in a tv series I’ve seen.
I seem to recall a lot of people bitching about the final season of Breaking Bad too. And The Wire and The Sopranos. Maybe that's just something we do. Maybe the writing has no choice but to fall off after several seasons.
Not the entire seasons. Hating an ending is a given for at least half an audience. Hating every aspect of a season is a whole other ball of wax. Sopranos final season was epic. The end wasn’t what everyone wanted. But that was only the last five seconds of the show. Not 6 episodes.
I'm old enough to remember when he was an awesome character.
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To those circular patterns.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
So why did the show keep making a big deal of something that is never explained?
And Tyrion's speech was a little too "explainy" about why Bran should be King - that scene could have been done more smoothly. But overall I liked the rest of the episode.
Glad that they brought back some characters that we thought we wouldn't see again after episode 4, including Ghost. Tyrion hosting the counsil meeting with Davos, Bronn, Sam, Brienne was really entertaining.
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To those circular patterns.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
So why did the show keep making a big deal of something that is never explained?
I think we're getting a feature in a few years. Drogon carrying Dany off was just weird. Maybe she comes back as the Ice Queen. That'd be bad ass.
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To those circular patterns.
Wasn't specifically addressed in the show, but the spiral patterns of the white walkers seem very similar the Targaryen banner with the 3-headed dragon forming a spiral shape. And recall that the Night King was immune to the fire from Dany's dragon - it may just be that the Night King is also of Targaryen ancestry.
So why did the show keep making a big deal of something that is never explained?
I think they showed the pattern maybe 3 or 4 times over the course of the series. I never thought it was a big deal - just figured that it was some sort of trademark that they tend leave.
Nitro, I'm pretty sure you went into tonight's season finale already convinced it would suck.
I enjoyed it. Others on this thread did as well. You didn't. Others didn't as well.
I suspect the appeal of this show will only grow with time after about a 6-month bitch-fest.
@Independent
Kit Harington defends Game of Thrones' final episode from accusations of 'sexism'
Oh for God's sake...
The author has been a consultant on the series. The foreshadowing of the end was there in the earlier seasons.
The same mob often blindly rejected ANY criticism. You saw it here on BBI, not just social media platforms across the net. As if on cue, the mob seems to have determined that the popular thing now is to bash the show. Despite the multitudes of warnings about Dany (which Tyrion ACTUALLY highlight in TONIGHT'S episode) you have millions of people out there who can't accept the obvious realistic path she took... it's like they somehow are personally offended by it all... very bizarre.
1. I think the simpler explanation is that the show just declined substantially in quality. That same mob probably watched Breaking Bad. Where was the mass outcry when that ended? Some weren't completely satisfied, but the overall reviews for the final season and the series were outstanding. It was a well written show that didn't leave any loose ends, didn't build characters for years only to fumble for an ending. The reviews for GoT final two seasons, professionals and fans, are mixed at best. By the way, the mob includes the cast of the show.
2. While many are shocked and upset by Dany, I would argue more people are in the camp that the show generally just did a poor job bringing everything to the screen. There was a building criticism of the show from last season until before Dany turned. How do you explain that? That's not just emotional attachment to one character.
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is the enlightened position - this was abjectly terrible and sometimes the mob is correct. You are cartwheeling explanations in there about massive plot holes as if people already decided they were going to hate it and therefore don't see the 'brilliance' which set things up but the reality is the showrunners wanted to fuck off to Star Wars and put a perfunctory effort into ending what could've been the best show put to television.
Nitro, I'm pretty sure you went into tonight's season finale already convinced it would suck.
I enjoyed it. Others on this thread did as well. You didn't. Others didn't as well.
I suspect the appeal of this show will only grow with time after about a 6-month bitch-fest.