When we drafted Jones I thought there was a legit possibility he could be the starter come week 1. The more the Giants spoke the less confident I was in my assumption.
After reading the Shurmur interview from yesterday and what Shula said the other day I'm starting to think there is a legit possibility. I don't like him, but Matt Lombardo had an article essentially saying the same thing.
@MattLombardoNFL: Ever since Daniel Jones was drafted, everything the #Giants said and did seemed geared towards Eli Manning starting Week 1.
Monday’s OTA1 was the first time I felt there’s a legitimate chance there could be an actual QB competition. |
What do you guys think? You think there's any chance Jones is the starter come week 1? I personally think they should give him a legit shot to win it if he outperforms Eli. If it's even close I'd start Jones from Week 1 and never look back. I'm a big believer in throwing the QB to the fire immediately.
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Objective, factual data - as I always use to support my opinions
As in April 2019 signup date. Currently on 15 active threads or more. Knows people's past posts previous to April 2019.
Maybe you just like certain facts?
I didn’t discover this site in April - been reading for quite some time.
- But you and Greg can continue to engage in the most pathetic attempt at cyberbullying I’ve ever seen.
Care to comment on actual football yet? Which is what I signed up for to discuss. Any interesting tidbits on the Bills defense? I’d love to hear ... as I like to look up information before posting it (I was shocked at how good their defense is too ... pretending it isn’t doesn’t make week 2 any easier).
Have a great day!
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which one will start in week one. Performance during OTAs or even during full team practices during the summer will not reveal this.
Whatever you said about OTA's applies to preseason as well. It will take losing in real games for any replacement to be contemplated.
people will overreact to preseason. not saying it's right, but you'll be seeing calls for Jones after Eli's first preseason INT
I mentioned week 3 as the earliest possibility of a switch, as an 0-2 start against 2 very good top 10 defenses is not out of the realm of possibility. The Bills will not be the "Easy win" some chalk it up as ... there are no easy wins for this team.
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which one will start in week one. Performance during OTAs or even during full team practices during the summer will not reveal this.
Whatever you said about OTA's applies to preseason as well. It will take losing in real games for any replacement to be contemplated.
people will overreact to preseason. not saying it's right, but you'll be seeing calls for Jones after Eli's first preseason INT
I mentioned week 3 as the earliest possibility of a switch, as an 0-2 start against 2 very good top 10 defenses is not out of the realm of possibility. The Bills will not be the "Easy win" some chalk it up as ... there are no easy wins for this team.
Yeah but he's saying that Shurmer will overreact to preseason. That's highly doubtful.
I don't have the "Gettleman Chart" as to what pick level equals HoF caliber player, but I have to think, at a minimum, Jones should forecast out to be a pro bowl caliber player on that chart.
I am still very down on the Jones pick. But I do like his athleticism. It's 3-4 fold better than Eli's "athleticism". And I think Jones is much more the prototype player Shurmur craves for his QB.
So the goal should be to start Jones ASAP. Not trying to to do that is either a waste of time, because Jints Central is in coddle mode, or Jones is showing to have serious bust potential...
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which one will start in week one. Performance during OTAs or even during full team practices during the summer will not reveal this.
Whatever you said about OTA's applies to preseason as well. It will take losing in real games for any replacement to be contemplated.
people will overreact to preseason. not saying it's right, but you'll be seeing calls for Jones after Eli's first preseason INT
I mentioned week 3 as the earliest possibility of a switch, as an 0-2 start against 2 very good top 10 defenses is not out of the realm of possibility. The Bills will not be the "Easy win" some chalk it up as ... there are no easy wins for this team.
Yeah but he's saying that Shurmer will overreact to preseason. That's highly doubtful.
Oh, yes very doubtful. All I'm saying is I think Eli's leash is a lot shorter than some want to admit - and he's getting 2 very tough tests right off the bat.
That Bills D is legit - especially the pass defense.
Thats a big fat NO !
They have worked their asses off in unison to reshape this roster and to clear cap space for the future, but they are NOT holding an open QB competition. On Monday Shurmur was asked point blank about it and SAID "Eli is the starting QB" and the other guys are vying for the #2 spot behind him.
How much more clear can he be? That's like a chick sitting on your face type clarity about whether or not she wants oral sex.
I fully expect Eli starting week 1 ... how much longer after is up to how he plays ... and the first 2 games are against 2 very good defenses ...
Shurmur has also said it’s Eli’s job to keep Jones on the bench, while the OC continues to say he’d be ready to start week 1 “if necessary”
Eli is not guaranteed his starting spot for all of 2019 ... and the changing of the guard could come a lot sooner than some want to admit. I’ll miss Eli too ... but his days are numbered.
I fully expect Eli starting week 1 ... how much longer after is up to how he plays ... and the first 2 games are against 2 very good defenses ...
Shurmur has also said it’s Eli’s job to keep Jones on the bench, while the OC continues to say he’d be ready to start week 1 “if necessary”
Eli is not guaranteed his starting spot for all of 2019 ... and the changing of the guard could come a lot sooner than some want to admit. I’ll miss Eli too ... but his days are numbered.
I'm pretty sure everyone on this planet's days are numbered.
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Should be a competition
I fully expect Eli starting week 1 ... how much longer after is up to how he plays ... and the first 2 games are against 2 very good defenses ...
Shurmur has also said it’s Eli’s job to keep Jones on the bench, while the OC continues to say he’d be ready to start week 1 “if necessary”
Eli is not guaranteed his starting spot for all of 2019 ... and the changing of the guard could come a lot sooner than some want to admit. I’ll miss Eli too ... but his days are numbered.
I'm pretty sure everyone on this planet's days are numbered.
And I’m pretty sure you knew what I meant and the mortality of mankind was an absurdly unnecessary counter point ... but yes, thank you for the reminder
And, as mentioned on other threads, his fate is going to be determined by W-L, even if that's due to factors beyond his control. And, as has been mentioned by observers, he's looking as good as he ever has, so if he brings that (and it's as likely that he will as it is that he will fall over a cliff). SO there's no reason a priori to believe that anything other than how management feels about the team's record and playoff potential overall will determine how long he starts. But, regardless, his days are numbered. They are numbered somewhere between 2 and 19, inclusive.
And, as mentioned on other threads, his fate is going to be determined by W-L, even if that's due to factors beyond his control. And, as has been mentioned by observers, he's looking as good as he ever has, so if he brings that (and it's as likely that he will as it is that he will fall over a cliff). SO there's no reason a priori to believe that anything other than how management feels about the team's record and playoff potential overall will determine how long he starts. But, regardless, his days are numbered. They are numbered somewhere between 2 and 19, inclusive.
He's 37? Is it 2018 already?
They have worked their asses off in unison to reshape this roster and to clear cap space for the future, but they are NOT holding an open QB competition. On Monday Shurmur was asked point blank about it and SAID "Eli is the starting QB" and the other guys are vying for the #2 spot behind him.
How much more clear can he be? That's like a chick sitting on your face type clarity about whether or not she wants oral sex.
Obviously the intent is to have him start every game. Plans change as the season goes on. If things go sideways and the team is looking at 5-6 wins, it serves no long-term good if Jones has done his job and prepared to play. All it would do if Jones doesn't play this year is hit the snooze bar on figuring out of he can play in the league in favor of starting a player who doesn't have a contract for next season.
But let's get to that point first before even discussing DJ as a starter.