The Giants got a lot of heat for letting him go when we could have franchised him. Instead, we respected his wishes and did not tag him which allowed him to become the leagues highest paid safety (which is ABSURD!).
You are welcome Landon!
RE: Collins should be thanking us for letting him go. Â
The Giants got a lot of heat for letting him go when we could have franchised him. Instead, we respected his wishes and did not tag him which allowed him to become the leagues highest paid safety (which is ABSURD!).
of if the GM was there to talk up Landon after games or not, he needs to understand he's in a situation that many find themselves in today.
Players on losing teams are expendable. Add in the bump for 2nd contracts, and you really need to be in a great position to negotiate with your current team to be retained.
That doesn't have to do with the GM's demeanor. It has to do with the realities and salary constraints of the NFL. Kevin Abrahms could have lunch with Collins every day and still know that from a cap standpoint his production doesn't match his cost.
Collins had a great year in 2016...but i think you are overreacting a bit. Losing Collins isn't some massive blow the defense can't recover from.
Also, it was smart business for Gettleman not to pay him that amount. He's not a great all around safety.
never said it was a big loss. all ive done is defend the guy for being a good player and contributor, in particular to the one season that was actually enjoyable in recent memory. Also the guy is not a cancer- plays his ass off- and has a passion for the game and winning. lot of homers here who have no clue about the reality of the giants locker room professing bull shit
Collins opens his mouth it's about why Giants let him walk. He has a hard time accepting that he wasn't worth what he wanted. And he forgets he said he'd holdout if tagged. Too vocal means you talk too DAMN much, stfu.
Collins was on the Michael Kay show,and it was a little different.People described it as classy,and Collins as a "stand up guy".
Now you get this,and it seems like there's a few agendas.Collins has changed a few of his answers to fit ESPN,and perhaps make his new boss happy.And some of the fans have switched from Good Landon to Bad Landon.
"I know with myself, [Harrison], Odell, [Vernon], all we wanted to do was win, and we spoke up because we had to get them to listen to us," Collins said. "We had to get them to get us winning pieces to help us at least be contenders.
"I think we were too vocal, and that platform was bigger than the Giants, you know, and our words stood out more. And ... if it's not good media, they don't want that kind of media."
Get us winning pieces? You were supposed to be the winning pieces, dipshit.
Collins, Harrison, Beckham, Vernon...four of the worst Giants I've ever had the displeasure of rooting for in my 33 years as a fan.
Could not agree more. I’m most excited about this year to actually root for guys I want to actually root for.
Listening to these guys talk after being let go just shows how pathetic this team used to be. Glad Gettleman cleared house of all these “winning pieces”
what quote are people offended by? this is standard bbi.
BBI says Giants got rid of people to change culture.... half the board falling over itself to slobber over that idea.... Landon Collins says he and other more vocal guys were not brought back due to culture.... BBI response... what a jerk glad we got rid of him.
he is just giving more insight and nuance to to the word culture. If anyone of us acted the way these players tend to we'd get fired
well known players that STILL haven't gotten over being released from the team (OBJ and Collins). I think that sends a strong message to the rest of the team. You are not the coach. You are supposed to play the game the way the coach draws it up.
Collins was not worth what he received. I like Peppers better as an overall player and that doesn't even include taking their contracts into account.
Gettleman shipped out the prima donnas. It's just that simple.
Didn't this guy have 3 women pregnant at the same time as a rookie? Â
Not that its at all relevant to this conversation or his time as a Giant but, ya know, hes a Skin now, so...might as well point out highly questional life decisions.
Landon Collins can't stop being asked about the Giants Â
they could have franchised him and sought to trade him or paid him 11.5 million to play out the year and traded him in the season etc, etc. Instead, they let him go for nothing and he got richly rewarded by another team. I am just a tad befuddled and disappointed that he sees to create a situation once he left when he has nothing other than to be happy by his good fortune. I dunno, I usually don't get bothered by this stuff, but this bothered me. The giants did him right.
Nail on the head. I feel for Collins & I'm always torn when this happens because I believe in re-signing good homegrown talent to 2nd contracts. It's good business and creates a team the fans can invest in. And to that end, Collins truly cared about being a Giant. He was invested in becoming the leader of the team & franchise player.
There's some delusion involved with LC - he's great with great players around him like Alabama and the 2016 Giants D. On bad teams he doesn't look like an elite S. That's 3 of 4 years on the Giants. I'll bet it goes beyond $$$ with Collins, his self-worth was rattled and he took business personal. So even becoming a rich man and reaching the pinnacle of his professional career from a compensation standpoint - the day he was working for his whole life - he's filled with bitterness.
Ever hear from players like this is the part they played. It's always someone done me wrong. Well as I posted before Collins himself said that he would hold out if they try to tag him.
Gettleman said in several instances that his job as GM is to ELIMINATE distractions. The kind of distractions that the holdout of a popular player would cause. He had to know this would happen. Maybe got bad advice who knows. With all the shit slinging hes done I'm not feeling sorry he's gone.
Did he forget he called a teammate who Mom was facing brain surgery a "cancer". Yeah Eli Apple's Mom was very sick 2017 so may be that was why he wasn't playing well? Anyway you got your $$$s now shutup.
really makes it clear that when DG said you don't quit on talent, he wasn't totally honest. There are other aspects that make players expendable. Like airing all the dirty laundry in the media like Collins does. You kind of have to just laugh at what Collins will say in the media. Laugh and not re-sign him. I'll take the third round comp pick.
and he did the right thing while he was here. He wishes that we are the team that paid him. He is just upset about that.
The guy was a positive influence and a vocal leader on the team that had very few of those.
Meanwhile, the funny thing is that the day we traded OBJ, most people here were really down on Peppers. Now... it seems like the consensus has changed. Not about trading away OBJ.. but the idea of having Peppers play safety for us
who every time he speaks, it makes you scratch your head. Is definitely not leadership material in terms of speaking. Remember when he said he wouldn't want Saban to coach the team, that was the moment I realized he wasn't very bright.
I remember he was part of the super bowl coverage one year and he was the worst announcer I have ever seen. He didn't have one meaningful thing to say.
AMEN I am not even going to read WTF he had to say and
good riddance to Him OBJ Snacks Apple and Vernon ...
You can't build a winning team with a rotten Apple .
Imagine some of the things that went on that we know nothing about . I always stuck up for LC but he got a
shit pile of Money and he still just wants to run his mouth
I hope that we talk about them less and talk about the
current Giants .
the man is now the highest paid safety in the league and yet he can't let it go that the Giants did not see the same value. I get being initially stung, but at the end of the day, all these guys talk about it being a business. Sounds to me like someone who thought the grass was greener, but now that he has to mow it, not so much....
One interesting bit from the video that didnt make it into the article Â
and get nasty when they are let go. Guess that is a good thing for the organization. They should realize that when they are here, not after they leave. Loved Collins by the way. Sorry he did not work out.
RE: Seems EX some X- Giant players love this team Â
and get nasty when they are let go. Guess that is a good thing for the organization. They should realize that when they are here, not after they leave. Loved Collins by the way. Sorry he did not work out.
I never got the impression Collins ever felt any way other than he loved being a Giant.
It sounds like he had a problem with the team they assembled to compete, much like all of us felt.
RE: RE: Seems EX some X- Giant players love this team Â
You are welcome Landon!
You are welcome Landon!
agree with that
mutually beneficial
Players on losing teams are expendable. Add in the bump for 2nd contracts, and you really need to be in a great position to negotiate with your current team to be retained.
That doesn't have to do with the GM's demeanor. It has to do with the realities and salary constraints of the NFL. Kevin Abrahms could have lunch with Collins every day and still know that from a cap standpoint his production doesn't match his cost.
Also, it was smart business for Gettleman not to pay him that amount. He's not a great all around safety.
Also, it was smart business for Gettleman not to pay him that amount. He's not a great all around safety.
never said it was a big loss. all ive done is defend the guy for being a good player and contributor, in particular to the one season that was actually enjoyable in recent memory. Also the guy is not a cancer- plays his ass off- and has a passion for the game and winning. lot of homers here who have no clue about the reality of the giants locker room professing bull shit
Now you get this,and it seems like there's a few agendas.Collins has changed a few of his answers to fit ESPN,and perhaps make his new boss happy.And some of the fans have switched from Good Landon to Bad Landon.
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"I know with myself, [Harrison], Odell, [Vernon], all we wanted to do was win, and we spoke up because we had to get them to listen to us," Collins said. "We had to get them to get us winning pieces to help us at least be contenders.
"I think we were too vocal, and that platform was bigger than the Giants, you know, and our words stood out more. And ... if it's not good media, they don't want that kind of media."
Get us winning pieces? You were supposed to be the winning pieces, dipshit.
Collins, Harrison, Beckham, Vernon...four of the worst Giants I've ever had the displeasure of rooting for in my 33 years as a fan.
Could not agree more. I’m most excited about this year to actually root for guys I want to actually root for.
Listening to these guys talk after being let go just shows how pathetic this team used to be. Glad Gettleman cleared house of all these “winning pieces”
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How dare they not at least try to tag me?
This makes no sense.
Makes perfect sense to me.
what quote are people offended by? this is standard bbi.
BBI says Giants got rid of people to change culture.... half the board falling over itself to slobber over that idea.... Landon Collins says he and other more vocal guys were not brought back due to culture.... BBI response... what a jerk glad we got rid of him.
he is just giving more insight and nuance to to the word culture. If anyone of us acted the way these players tend to we'd get fired
Collins was not worth what he received. I like Peppers better as an overall player and that doesn't even include taking their contracts into account.
Gettleman shipped out the prima donnas. It's just that simple.
Nail on the head. I feel for Collins & I'm always torn when this happens because I believe in re-signing good homegrown talent to 2nd contracts. It's good business and creates a team the fans can invest in. And to that end, Collins truly cared about being a Giant. He was invested in becoming the leader of the team & franchise player.
There's some delusion involved with LC - he's great with great players around him like Alabama and the 2016 Giants D. On bad teams he doesn't look like an elite S. That's 3 of 4 years on the Giants. I'll bet it goes beyond $$$ with Collins, his self-worth was rattled and he took business personal. So even becoming a rich man and reaching the pinnacle of his professional career from a compensation standpoint - the day he was working for his whole life - he's filled with bitterness.
Gettleman said in several instances that his job as GM is to ELIMINATE distractions. The kind of distractions that the holdout of a popular player would cause. He had to know this would happen. Maybe got bad advice who knows. With all the shit slinging hes done I'm not feeling sorry he's gone.
Did he forget he called a teammate who Mom was facing brain surgery a "cancer". Yeah Eli Apple's Mom was very sick 2017 so may be that was why he wasn't playing well? Anyway you got your $$$s now shutup.
Something tells me that he isnt beyond a cheap shot on our beloved RB,,, Just sayin.
Something tells me that he isnt beyond a cheap shot on our beloved RB,,, Just sayin.
If Landon throws his shoulder into Barkley's quads, Landon's shoulder will disintegrate.
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In comment 14450869 Big Blue '56 said:
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How dare they not at least try to tag me?
This makes no sense.
Seriously? The fact that the Giants didn’t even care enough about him to at least tag him while they negotiated a contract is very telling to me.
And he also promised a fight if the Giants did tag him.
The guy was a positive influence and a vocal leader on the team that had very few of those.
Meanwhile, the funny thing is that the day we traded OBJ, most people here were really down on Peppers. Now... it seems like the consensus has changed. Not about trading away OBJ.. but the idea of having Peppers play safety for us
Pretty sure Collins will stop talking at least during the game.
At this point I hope they get Collins on coverage and they make him start taking about something else like why he couldn't cover anyone.
AMEN I am not even going to read WTF he had to say and
good riddance to Him OBJ Snacks Apple and Vernon ...
You can't build a winning team with a rotten Apple .
Imagine some of the things that went on that we know nothing about . I always stuck up for LC but he got a
shit pile of Money and he still just wants to run his mouth
I hope that we talk about them less and talk about the
current Giants .
I think Peppers will fill in nicely for him, but I'll miss Collins tackling. That was something special.
I wonder what pieces they were asking for? Players? Coaching?
I never got the impression Collins ever felt any way other than he loved being a Giant.
It sounds like he had a problem with the team they assembled to compete, much like all of us felt.
It sounds like he had a problem with the team they assembled to compete.