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Klaatu : 5/21/2019 2:12 pm
...  
GothamGiants : 5/21/2019 2:15 pm : link
that, will lead to a whole lot more of
this - ( New Window )
sweet as can be  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/21/2019 2:15 pm : link
.
that's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2019 2:19 pm : link
a great photo!
awesome photo  
hitdog42 : 5/21/2019 2:21 pm : link
looks like real football and real football players!
That's like an old E F Hutton commercial.  
MOOPS : 5/21/2019 2:24 pm : link
'When Saquon runs, everybody watches.'

The man is special. And it has to elevate the play of everyone on the OL knowing that every block you make can turn into a 50 yard run.
Zeitler is gonna open up some holes.
Zeitler  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2019 2:24 pm : link
is one of those guys who looks like he could play football without pads.
I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
GeofromNJ : 5/21/2019 2:26 pm : link
He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
90.Cal : 5/21/2019 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


"I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley..."

I stopped there. That must be awful.
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Klaatu : 5/21/2019 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14451206 Eric from BBI said:
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a great photo!


Thanks. I took it just for you, Eric.

Okay, not really.
Geo  
ryanmkeane : 5/21/2019 2:34 pm : link
i would love to know what you get excited about if that's the case
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
g56blue10 : 5/21/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


Comments like this always drive me crazy. Football is the ultimate team sport. You need a well built team with talent to succeed. The Lions never one shit with Sanders because the rest of his team sucked.. Marino was an elite QB who never won the big game because his ďteamĒ sucked.

Enjoy watching Barkley, heís a rare talent and who knows how long we will have to watch his greatness. We can win a championship with him if Gettleman builds the right team around him
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Dr. D : 5/21/2019 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


The most successful era of the Detroit Lions since the 1950s, in terms of playoff appearances, was when Barry Sanders played for them. They made the playoffs about 6 times in the 90s.
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Dr. D : 5/21/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.

I feel sorry for you. You do know it's a team game, right?

Sanders, despite playing for a crappy franchise, helped them win enough games to make it to the playoffs 5 times in 10 years! They've only made it back 4 times since he retired 20 years ago.

The last time Detroit won a playoff game, guess who was their RB? Barry Sanders.
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
BillT : 5/21/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.

You mean like a great running game didn't help the Cowboys win a bunch of games over the past number of years. And without elite QB play or offensive skill players as good as we have.
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eugibs : 5/21/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14451198 GothamGiants said:
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that, will lead to a whole lot more of this - ( New Window )


The fact that the go to highlight clip for our star running back is from a game the Giants are losing 31-6 with 6 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter at home against their biggest rival perfectly encapsulates why nothing that has happened to date has excited me about this particular draft pick.
How sweet?  
Beezer : 5/21/2019 3:21 pm : link

I picture the dad in Little Miss Sunshine, standing behind the VW bus when the motorcycle cop finds the porn in the back, and Kinear is going, "Aw, sweet, sweet ..." lol
RE: RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/21/2019 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14451256 Dr. D said:
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In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:


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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


I feel sorry for you. You do know it's a team game, right?

Sanders, despite playing for a crappy franchise, helped them win enough games to make it to the playoffs 5 times in 10 years! They've only made it back 4 times since he retired 20 years ago.

The last time Detroit won a playoff game, guess who was their RB? Barry Sanders.


I've used that stat before and it is like most people don't care to listen.

Sanders definitely made the Lions better. Much more so than Scott Mitchell!! Those Lions teams actually played in January.

It is one thing to not have a historical perspective, but when people are intentionally ignorant about it - just foolishness.
It's ignorance in pursuit of obstinance  
Bill L : 5/21/2019 3:27 pm : link
there's an Eli agenda and arguments get shaped to a desired outcome. Always.
If you can't get excited about the Giants having a young HOF caliber  
Heisenberg : 5/21/2019 3:29 pm : link
player, then..... I mean.... I dunno what can be done for you.
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
BlueHurricane : 5/21/2019 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Just sayin
For me, it's not just Barkley that makes it sweet.  
Klaatu : 5/21/2019 3:34 pm : link
It's Barkley running behind Kevin Zeitler.
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Cool Down : 5/21/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.
I think th

I think that we all understand that football is a team game. Who ever said that Barkley was going to carry the team to Victory all by himself/
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
wonderback : 5/21/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


Was wondering how many people on this site would give this an up vote. This comment is the epitome of ignorance.
I just noticed Eli in the background.  
Klaatu : 5/21/2019 4:13 pm : link
What the hell is he doing, dancing a jig?
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Leg of Theismann : 5/21/2019 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


...Barry Sanders did win games by himself. I mean to some extent he took crappy teams to be playoff teams and won playoff games. He couldn't win a championship by himself, just as no one can regardless of talent or position. The way to look at it is: Gettleman needs to assemble the right team to be competitive, but if he does that, THEN Barkley could absolutely be the superstar that puts the Giants over the top to win a title. I believe he is a Michael Jordan -level of talent, and although one player can't affect the game in football they way he can in basketball, that doesn't mean that one player can have ZERO effect on wins and losses if he's an elite once-in-a-generation talent.
RE: I just noticed Eli in the background.  
Heisenberg : 5/21/2019 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14451344 Klaatu said:
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What the hell is he doing, dancing a jig?


Looking for this
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Klaatu : 5/21/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14451357 Heisenberg said:
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What the hell is he doing, dancing a jig?



Looking for this


Hmmm...
RE: For me, it's not just Barkley that makes it sweet.  
Gman11 : 5/21/2019 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14451316 Klaatu said:
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It's Barkley running behind Kevin Zeitler.


I think having Zeitler in the lineup helps the offense more than having Beckham would have.
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BlueLou'sBack : 5/21/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14451229 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14451206 Eric from BBI said:


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a great photo!



Thanks. I took it just for you, Eric.

Okay, not really.


I thought you posted it for me, Klaatu, after I said I wanted to see Zeitler's lower half, after watching his post practice presser on Giants.com and noted that he looked like a guy who didn't miss many of his training dates since entering the NFL.


Maybe not during his time as a Badger, either.

I really like Eric's comment that Zeitler "looks like one of those guys that could play football without pads."

Man he must be DEDICATED in the weight room. He'll have fun lifting with Saquon, if they let OL do that in the training room.
You couldn't Google him, Lou?  
Klaatu : 5/21/2019 5:27 pm : link
I'll bet if you did, you'd find a lot of pictures like this:



And this:



And this:

If the OL plays up to its potential, stays healthy, Barkley for 2500  
SGMen : 5/21/2019 5:31 pm : link
Combined rushing and receiving, why not? He has that rare breakaway speed and power to lay the wood to any team and defense.
Klaatu - I don't want to steal your sense of purpose here...  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/21/2019 6:19 pm : link
And you're so good at it!
I love how animated Eli is in that first photo  
steve in ky : 5/21/2019 6:23 pm : link
I think he is as fired up entering a season as he has ever been.
Man, I just can't understand...  
Dan in the Springs : 5/21/2019 6:31 pm : link
how some fans can't be happy about Saquon.

I mean he almost single-handedly made my season last year. Imagine the despair if he wasn't tearing up the league?

Win or lose, I get excited about every single amazing thing he does on the field, which guess what - happens every single game win or lose.

RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Toth029 : 5/21/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.

No, we need the defense to play better.
Just imagining KZ  
Jim Bur(n)t : 5/21/2019 7:41 pm : link
Flattening a LB, and SB cuts it back up inside & lets the burners rip!

Seriously not excited to see Barkley back on the field with a  
Bluesbreaker : 5/21/2019 8:50 pm : link
A much better O-line ?
I get excited just waiting for the first pre-season game
and now that we have a talent at RB that IMO the
Best I have ever seen . Thats nearing 50 years of watching
the damn game . have your testosterone checked .
The guy goes 39 yards on his first touch as a pro
I can't wait to see him again .
If things fall into place he is the kind of back that
can take you to the playoffs he's that good !
Secondly I hope Eli kills it this season just to STFU
all the damn haters and fair weather fans .
And great shot of Zeitler and Barkley  
Bluesbreaker : 5/21/2019 8:53 pm : link
Kevin looks like a beast and Barkley is one !
If you can't get excited watching a guy like  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/21/2019 8:54 pm : link
Saquon, why even watch?
Can I just say as someone  
Daniel in MI : 5/21/2019 8:55 pm : link
That lived in MI during the Sanders era that 1) he was amazing and they never had a really great line; 2) he was the only reason to watch them; 3) they had Wayne Fonts as coach and that was no Vince Lombardi, very much a good olí boy/schmoozer; 4) after Scott Mitchell played like 3 games as a fill in in Miami Detroit threw a big contract at him, and he was very mediocre; 5) Sanders walked away from football and chasing Paytonís record because he became convinced that Detroit was not trying to build a winner (getting rid of good players) according to his own bio.

Giants and Detroit are nothing alike. We may not do it right all the time, but I have no doubt DG is trying to build a winner and thatís always the aim of the owners.
Zeitler  
Rjanyg : 5/21/2019 8:58 pm : link
Is by far my favorite addition this off season.
If Halapio is what Shurmur thinks he is at OC  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/21/2019 9:32 pm : link
and Zeitler isn't fading, and Hernandez gets significantly better...

I like the fact that the shortest path between the LOS and the goal line is a straight line. Far too often last year SB needed to bounce runs around the edges because the middle of the OL didn't do their jobs adequately.
RE: RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Reale01 : 5/21/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14451356 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:


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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.



...Barry Sanders did win games by himself. I mean to some extent he took crappy teams to be playoff teams and won playoff games. He couldn't win a championship by himself, just as no one can regardless of talent or position. The way to look at it is: Gettleman needs to assemble the right team to be competitive, but if he does that, THEN Barkley could absolutely be the superstar that puts the Giants over the top to win a title. I believe he is a Michael Jordan -level of talent, and although one player can't affect the game in football they way he can in basketball, that doesn't mean that one player can have ZERO effect on wins and losses if he's an elite once-in-a-generation talent.


I have a tough time getting excited about Babe Ruth. Pitching wins championships.
ROTFLMAO  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
Yeah, sure, but in his 15 years with the Yankees, Ruth's team won seven AL pennants and 4 World Series titles.

So umm, not really. Not in the case of those teams...
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
Brown_Hornet : 5/21/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.

Just turn off your tv. You don't like football.
Wait, is that really an O Lineman running ahead of Barkley looking  
PatersonPlank : 5/21/2019 11:06 pm : link
for someone to hit? I can't believe my eyes.
That is a great pic  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/22/2019 10:19 am : link
Z looks like a profmachine, ready to forklift drive a LB out of the screen. I would bet if someone dug up a similar pic of Flowers, there would be something unproffesional and sloppy looking about him, maybe his shoe laces are untied or he has a jelly donut stain on his jersey.
That's an amazing photo ...  
Manny in CA : 5/22/2019 10:33 am : link

Add this guy, in your mind (#71 - Will Hernandez), pulling around to help #70) ...



The "Hurt" brothers.
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BMac : 5/22/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14451293 eugibs said:
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that, will lead to a whole lot more of this - ( New Window )



The fact that the go to highlight clip for our star running back is from a game the Giants are losing 31-6 with 6 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter at home against their biggest rival perfectly encapsulates why nothing that has happened to date has excited me about this particular draft pick.


Skins fan?
I think ...  
Manny in CA : 5/22/2019 10:05 pm : link

Gotham is doing what is commonly known as "pulling our leg"

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GeofromNJ : 5/23/2019 12:27 am : link
In comment 14451341 wonderback said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.



Was wondering how many people on this site would give this an up vote. This comment is the epitome of ignorance.

Did I miss something? The Giants won five games last year.
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BlueLou'sBack : 5/23/2019 2:02 am : link
In comment 14453117 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:


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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.



Was wondering how many people on this site would give this an up vote. This comment is the epitome of ignorance.


Did I miss something? The Giants won five games last year.


Yes you did miss something: how awful the Giants' defense was. That had a lot to do with the lack of Ws too. Hopefully that has been addressed with everything but an impact MLB this year, if Golden returns to his 2016 version, and the rookies and Beal pan out.
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Klaatu : 5/23/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14453117 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:


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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.



Was wondering how many people on this site would give this an up vote. This comment is the epitome of ignorance.


Did I miss something? The Giants won five games last year.


Yes, you did miss something, but I'll try to clear things up for you.

What you're looking at is RB Saquon Barkley (the little guy carrying the ball, #26) running behind the Giants' recent free agent acquisition RG Kevin Zeitler (the big guy, #70). See, football is a team game, and a team that wants to run the ball a lot (like the Giants) can't just depend on their RB's, no matter how good they are. Those teams need to have a good offensive line, too, and if they don't have one, they'd better try and build one if they know what's good for them. So, it's not just about Barkley - it's about Zeitler, too.

Now, FYI, Zeitler, for all that he's a good run-blocker, is actually better thought of for his pass-blocking. Pretty cool, no? So, no matter who's under Center for the Giants, having Zeitler at RG will make life a little easier for them. It's much easier for a QB to be "elite" when he has a lot of time to survey the field. Sure, no one guy - Barkley, Zeitler, whomever - is going to win games all by themselves. But as I said earlier, it's a team game, and the more talent you have at every position, on both sides of the ball, should lead to more wins.

If that thought doesn't excite you, I don't know what will.
RE: I have a tough time getting excited about Barkley.  
weaverpsu : 5/23/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said:
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He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.


Then you should stop watching football because it just isn't your sport. I would watch the Lions just to see Barry Sanders play. Check for a pulse.... seriously.
Twenty years later...  
Matt G : 5/23/2019 10:34 am : link
And Thanksgiving without Barry Sanders still doesn't feel right.

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Brick72 : 5/23/2019 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14453271 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14451216 GeofromNJ said: Quote: He's a terrific runner, but he's not going to win games by himself any more than Barry Sanders did. We need elite QB play to advance and I'm hoping it will be this year or next.

Was wondering how many people on this site would give this an up vote. This comment is the epitome of ignorance.

Did I miss something? The Giants won five games last year.

Yes, you did miss something, but I'll try to clear things up for you.

What you're looking at is RB Saquon Barkley (the little guy carrying the ball, #26) running behind the Giants' recent free agent acquisition RG Kevin Zeitler (the big guy, #70). See, football is a team game, and a team that wants to run the ball a lot (like the Giants) can't just depend on their RB's, no matter how good they are. Those teams need to have a good offensive line, too, and if they don't have one, they'd better try and build one if they know what's good for them. So, it's not just about Barkley - it's about Zeitler, too.

Now, FYI, Zeitler, for all that he's a good run-blocker, is actually better thought of for his pass-blocking. Pretty cool, no? So, no matter who's under Center for the Giants, having Zeitler at RG will make life a little easier for them. It's much easier for a QB to be "elite" when he has a lot of time to survey the field. Sure, no one guy - Barkley, Zeitler, whomever - is going to win games all by themselves. But as I said earlier, it's a team game, and the more talent you have at every position, on both sides of the ball, should lead to more wins.

If that thought doesn't excite you, I don't know what will.

Let it go. Some people aren't going to get it no matter what. It could be LT out there on defense and Saquon out there on offense and they would complain about how [fill in the blanks] don't win games. Sports is a visceral experience. Not worth the time to explain it. Words have never made visceral real to those who choose to wear blinders.
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