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Will Hernandez can be special and Zeitler already know it

BSIMatt : 5/21/2019 7:06 pm
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Will Hernandez made quite the impression on New York Giants right guard Kevin Zeitler during the team's first full-team OTAs practice of the 2019 offseason. Zeitler is a man of few words, but that was all he needed to describe his first impression of Hernandez.
"Strong, very, very strong," Zeitler said, following the first full-team OTAs practice. "He’s a good young guard. Even watching today, I think he can be special."

Will Hernandez can be special and Kevin Zeitler already knows it - ( New Window )
This season  
Jay on the Island : 5/21/2019 7:11 pm : link
Hernandez is going to take a big step forward. Hernandez and Zeitler are going to take a lot of pressure off of Halapio in the middle.
Just imagine..  
Canton : 5/21/2019 7:17 pm : link
If this line plays up to its full potential, SB is going to be a weekly highlight reel.
RE: Just imagine..  
Big Blue '56 : 5/21/2019 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14451507 Canton said:
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If this line plays up to its full potential, SB is going to be a weekly highlight reel.


You mean getting to a SB will be a weekly highlight reel..😊
We all knew this by seasons end last year  
Torrag : 5/21/2019 7:21 pm : link
...Zeitler is playing catch up.
Would be great  
UberAlias : 5/21/2019 7:21 pm : link
To see
I hope Sy  
Jay in Toronto : 5/21/2019 7:37 pm : link
Is wrong about Hernandez and I'm wrong about Beal.
Not a fan.  
madgiantscow009 : 5/21/2019 7:39 pm : link
you can tell a lot about a person with how they treat people and Will does not treat defensive players very well.
RE: I hope Sy  
Joey in VA : 5/21/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14451524 Jay in Toronto said:
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Is wrong about Hernandez and I'm wrong about Beal.
His eval was correct and those short comings do exist physically but that frame and that weight leaning on you for 60 some odd plays is going to wear people down. His awareness will improve, his coordination will improve and his technique will improve and the little holes he has will shrink. He'll get out quicked from time to time but he's so damn wide and hard to get around it may moot more often than not.
Not Just Strength  
Samiam : 5/21/2019 8:09 pm : link
Hernandez needs to pull out so they can run better to the right side. If he can pull effectively, with an improved right side of the line, their running attack can be solid
RE: This season  
santacruzom : 5/21/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14451492 Jay on the Island said:
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Hernandez is going to take a big step forward.


That would be unusual for a young Giants player, but here's hoping you're right.
RE: RE: I hope Sy  
Jay in Toronto : 5/21/2019 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14451537 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14451524 Jay in Toronto said:


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Is wrong about Hernandez and I'm wrong about Beal.

His eval was correct and those short comings do exist physically but that frame and that weight leaning on you for 60 some odd plays is going to wear people down. His awareness will improve, his coordination will improve and his technique will improve and the little holes he has will shrink. He'll get out quicked from time to time but he's so damn wide and hard to get around it may moot more often than not.


Well obviously we all hope he improves. But bottom line, Sy would not have picked him there and I've been critical of the Beal pick.
Interested to hear impressions of Dexter Lawrence  
BSIMatt : 5/21/2019 8:59 pm : link
From Zeitler/Hernandez once they get to up each other in training camp.
RE: Interested to hear impressions of Dexter Lawrence  
GothamGiants : 5/21/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14451637 BSIMatt said:
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From Zeitler/Hernandez once they get to up each other in training camp.


Hernandez vs Lawrence - I'd pay to watch them go 1:1 (very glad they are both Giants)
RE: RE: I hope Sy  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/21/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14451537 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14451524 Jay in Toronto said:


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Is wrong about Hernandez and I'm wrong about Beal.

His eval was correct and those short comings do exist physically but that frame and that weight leaning on you for 60 some odd plays is going to wear people down. His awareness will improve, his coordination will improve and his technique will improve and the little holes he has will shrink. He'll get out quicked from time to time but he's so damn wide and hard to get around it may moot more often than not.


For about 2 years I subscribed to Jerry Foley's The Giants' Insider and their draft analyst expert (don't recall his name) was all over Hernandez for the Giants' 2nd round pick last year. He liked Hernandez so much, he wanted the Gmen to trade back into late round 1 to snag him. His summary of Hernandez, IIRC, was that he was a dynamic run blocker who could move DTs off the LOS, and that he pulled and trapped well, but had correctable shortcomings as a pass blocker. His summation of WH in one sentence reminded me of Parcel's comment after drafting Jumbo Elliot: "0nce [this guy] he gets his hands on a defender, it's all over."

His power is excellent if not extreme: 37 BP reps with a sub 5.2 seconds 40, at 327# at 6'2" tall.

Physically, he's very much a match to Zeitler coming out if slightly heavier, stronger and squatter. Zeitler now looks a bit trimmer in the waist than WH. Hopefully Will follows KZ's and perhaps Solder's leads how to take care of himself long term, as well as the tricks of the trade pass blocking.

I was darn impressed what I saw from him last year.
Blue Lou: Isn’t Dave Syvertsen, aka Sy’56, the draft analyst at  
Ivan15 : 5/21/2019 11:28 pm : link
Giant Insider?
I've posted this video of Will before ...  
Manny in CA : 5/21/2019 11:31 pm : link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aux55iUNtk

He got away with a lot of stuff at little UTEP because he was a "man among boys" there (especially pass-pro). In the NFL, he found he can't do that ...

And THAT is what I love about him, he LEARNED and is anxious to get better. With guys like Zeitler around him, "sky's the limit".
RE: Blue Lou: Isn’t Dave Syvertsen, aka Sy’56, the draft analyst at  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/22/2019 12:13 am : link
In comment 14451754 Ivan15 said:
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Giant Insider?


I don't recall. But if he is, and he stated he wasn't high on Hernandez on this site, then he peddled different stories for different publications LOL.

Can't be wrong on a prospect if you play both sides of the coin...
RE: RE: Blue Lou: Isn’t Dave Syvertsen, aka Sy’56, the draft analyst at  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/22/2019 12:15 am : link
In comment 14451766 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14451754 Ivan15 said:


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Giant Insider?



I don't recall. But if he is, and he stated he wasn't high on Hernandez on this site, then he peddled different stories for different publications LOL.

Can't be wrong on a prospect if you play both sides of the coin...


I actually vaguely recall it was Sy;s opinions in that publication, but can't be sure. Maybe he changed his opinion between publishing there and here, but there they guy (Sy or not) was very, very high on Hernandez, I recall that perfectly.
Don't forget Giants have Tate and Shep who are good blockers  
justafan : 5/22/2019 2:01 am : link
They are gonna pound the rock with Barkley. If everything pans out well I could see the league talking about him breaking the rushing record late in the season or at least all purpose rush/receiving yards. Too bad Engram isn't a true two-way tight end.
RE: I hope Sy  
Tuckrule : 5/22/2019 5:56 am : link
In comment 14451524 Jay in Toronto said:
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Is wrong about Hernandez and I'm wrong about Beal.


Can you refresh my memory as to what Sy said about him
RE: RE: I hope Sy  
Klaatu : 5/22/2019 8:01 am : link
In comment 14451790 Tuckrule said:
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In comment 14451524 Jay in Toronto said:


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Is wrong about Hernandez and I'm wrong about Beal.



Can you refresh my memory as to what Sy said about him


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10 – Will Hernandez – UTEP – 6’2/327

Grade: 75

Strong Points:

-A bull when he is moving downhill off the snap
-Excellent leverage and initial punch, almost always wins the contact battle
-Quick feet as a side shuffle pass blocker

Weak Points:

-Slow out of his stance as a lateral mover
-Struggles to maintain separation from defenders
-Gets top heavy, shows his numbers to the dirt, doesn’t keep his head up

Summary:

Fifth year senior. Hernandez will be ready for NFL right away when it comes to the power game. He won’t be pushed back by anyone and he will excel as a straight ahead run blocker. I get nervous with him elsewhere, however. If he is up against speed and quickness inside on passing downs, a growing trend, I can see him having a hard time. He doesn’t lock guys up and there are some adjustment issues. He can be a stud in the right scheme, but a major liability in the wrong scheme. He is not a one size fits all lineman.

NFL Comparison: Gabe Jackson / OAK


Note: All of Sy's player evaluations for the last five years are available from the drop down menu at Team Building, above.
A big part of Hernandez  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/22/2019 8:27 am : link
Is his intangibles. Team oriented, family oriented, working hard to help his poor family. SB and Hernandez are the type of players to build a Giants team around.
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